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the, the story of a small community in one of mexico's most dangerous states, standing up to criminal court house and corrupt politicians to you. we don't want to fall additions anymore. they just this united, the people in the last episode of democracy. maybe we explore how trans eldest let the fights for self determination, pretty savvy. that's what i'm thinking that the now coast was the same as thinking of the 2 ends government by the people on al jazeera, the united nation says palestinian women have phone the front of israel on slots in gaza. 2 thirds of those killed and i was opposed to me again, some of how women and children. why are so many women victims and what can well do to protect them? this is inside story, the
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hello and welcome to the program. i'm fully by people. israel went to war in guys that on the premise of destroying him, us instead in obliterating vast areas of the gaza strip. it's killed or maimed. tens of thousands of palestinian civilians enforced more than one point. 8000000 defeat many have no homes to return to us. they have been destroyed by is really and western supply bonds. the united nation says women and children have suffered the most and is rose relentless bombardment. combined they make up nearly 70 percent of the debt. so what difficulties do palestinian women face living under constant attack? and what's the well saying or doing about it will be putting those questions and want to, i guess in just a few minutes. but for us, this report from alexandra, vice of the mothers of palestine future are being wiped out. the
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un says is rarely strikes kill 2 mothers every hour in gaza. 7 women, every 2 hours leading palestinian men and children to mourn the most fundamental figure in their lives. the women of gaza hold their world together and give life to future generations and their suffering unprecedented tragedy. the head of the shot of the yeah, i am in the 9 months of pregnancy and i was unable to work with great difficulty and to reading that are we so this was our own i as we feel that we were dying and we had nothing life was very difficult. the un says there are 50000 pregnant women in gaza. more than 5000 are due to give birth within a month, in unimaginable conditions. $100.00 and the 2 women are delivering babies every day
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without tool to without painkillers, without anesthesia for c sections. without electricity for the incubators and without medical supplies, yet they continue to cared for the children for the sick, for the elderly, mixing baby formula with contaminated water when they find it going without food so that the children can live another day. labor day after day, women do what they can keep their families safe. cleaning is really bones on foot. started, not just the road that leads to that. it's like be a fucking up the difficult, very difficult, the walk and walk and the walking dead. those who have lost sons and daughters of the wounded, pregnant women have been searching for shelter and salvaging food. the life is not to be a 127 people. sleep in hand. this room hour has been scrubbed as our phones are
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sleeping outside all without any real hope for peace and nowhere near enough humanitarian aid. but day after day, they refused to give up. the vic was the one loving had this is not the 1st one, it's been destroyed. it was demolished in 2008 was in 2014, not in 2023. and it would likely be demolished again when i'm little, but we will rebuild it again. so far more than 4000 palestinian women have been killed by as rarely bombs, a number that's likely to rise. but in spite of these seemingly insurmountable odds, palestinian women are determined to survive the alexandra buyers for inside story. the well that's now bring in august for today's show in around online the occupied westbank is nor or day political analyst and former spokeswoman for the palestinian task force on public diplomacy in occupied east
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jerusalem is yara, hawaii senior analyst set. i'll show baccha the policy and policy network and hosts of the rethinking palestine podcast. and in cape town, south africa is have a bar associate director of the women's rights division as human rights watch. ladies, welcome to you. oh, thank you very much for joining us on inside story nor or day in ramallah. let me start with you. is israel as war you think deliberately targeting palestinian women? thank you fully. i think israel's war is delivered to targeting the fundamentals of life in garza, and in that sense it would go without saying that it is targeting women and children and affecting the most adversely when you see that entire neighborhoods have been wiped, wiped out that the medical infrastructure of an entire society has been debilitated,
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has been completely destroyed, and the people who will feel that destruction. oh, 1st and most would be the women and children. big displacements will affect the most. and so in a way i think, yes they are the primary targets because if the women can't handle all of that paid and then all of that i get the caps or via this for the really the society itself costs because they're in impala funded particular. and after so many years of oppression and occupation, they're the glue that holds society together. it's the women to do that. and nor, interestingly, and significantly, all women killed in this conflict. and guys have come from all walks of life. they were just unless they were un workers, they were health care work is absolutely um and that will have a long term impact on everything on all loss of life on services, on different professions, on the way the society will function even after the war is over. and nothing
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basically will be the same. yeah. all right, let me get your thoughts. what do you think the impact of this war has been on palestinians? a women's rights and dignity? when i 1st and foremost, i think it's important to note at the absence of palestinian women in gauze on this panel for palestinian women. there are different experiences of bond and some in the hands of these for any regime for decades. kind of steam, women in gaza happened at the full front of the pilot. and so i mean they can speak to that from a place of expedia and we have tried to to reach palestinian women. and you guys have but you know, the kind of activity issues as well, and it's been extremely difficult, but we have tried to reach out to them. and i was just about say that so many of them are not able to share their experiences in this moment. because communications are deliberately being limited and also because surviving. the ongoing genocide is,
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is understandably taken precedence. and, you know, i think it's very difficult at this moment to get accurate figures on, on who's been killed. but we do know that at least 15000 palestinians have been killed in 05, a 7000 onto the robo on about 15002 thirds of women and children, at least 6000 children. and at least $4000.00 women and probably the same amount of man i'm there is this tendency to put women and children in the same category. and i think it stands from the understanding that in more on conflict, they are the most vulnerable. and i think it's important to highlight that vulnerability, but i also think we have to give agency to palestinian women. and i think we have to be careful that we don't d politicize them, that adults they are in that category. and i think, you know, inevitably in situations of conflict and one genocide because of existing patriarchal structure and subjective issues, that disproportionately affect women. i think really not going to be, you know,
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at disproportionately affected a, in, in the going to the side and goes up, which is incredibly, incredibly broad to which is targeting, you know, residential buildings which is talk to health services, which is even targeting you and shelters and so as north said, is ready, regime is essentially talking to posting and life and goals. and inevitably the women will be a call. and yeah, are you raised an important point which i'll come back to to know with in just a few minutes the role of palestinian women in policy and society and how they're viewed newer. but i want to bring her into the conversation. i 1st heather i yeah, i mentioned that in the war and conflict and not just in gaza but around the world very often is to women and children that bear the brunt of the violent talk to us about the difficulties palestinian women are facing currently in gaza. on the constant attack and what the world is saying and doing about this. well, we've covered a lot of this, um, in the, in the intro to this,
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like brandon and the other speakers have as well. i mean, it said it's an unspeakable situation for everyone of course, but it affects women and girls and in some specific ways. obviously the collapse of the health care system has, is one clear area where, um, you know, it's, it's pregnant women who. busy are experiencing a crisis, but it's not only them it's, it's anyone who's trying to get regular health care, including sexual and reproductive health care, which is certainly going to be unavailable to people. it's the, it's also about the role of women as caregivers. because of course, we know that caregiving has very gendered and so, you know, trying to find clean water to make formula for a baby is more likely to be the task of, of women. and then man, um, there are also a bunch of issues around sanitation and menstrual hygiene. and, and also issues about, you know,
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we know that and complex one of the things that often happens is an escalation in sexual violence. and you're suddenly in an environment where any types of services and prevention will, will not be functioning at all. and this type of crisis have a, is applied to a policy and women in gone. so right now, do you think it's registering strongly in, in our, the western world in western media? why isn't they more noise made about the flight of, of policy and women right now as well? you know, i think um, as, as often happens, the situation as it specifically relates to women and girls gets drowned out by, by broader discussions of political issues. um one of the points, but i think is really important. is that 23 years ago, the security council passed resolution $1325.00, which said that women are supposed to be full participants in all discussions about peace. and we see that all these years later that to ignore it all the time. even
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in process is led by the un and, and you see the consequences of that, i think in a lot of places around the world. all right, nor let me come to you about this, this issue. the guys a was certainly shown this in charlie t of women to the palestinian cause. and we see this every day talk to us about the function and role of women in palestinian society today and how they're viewed. well, i think one of the things that this war has demonstrated and has also, ironically showed is the son charlotte to a woman in dallas in society. and it has humanized, our man for a change. it has shown our man and how attached they are to their mothers to their wives, to their sisters, the fact that they can get emotional, but they can cry. they grieve for the loss of those centrals tigers. in the past, um, over over the past decades and since the neck of less than he had women have been
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the heart and soul of the palestinian people. they're the ones who are able to preserve our identity as a nation to keep a, the, the, not just the nation a live, but to keep generations of palestinians knowing for they are being proud of who they are doing, where they come from. and also not, it's coming to the dehumanization to the denial of existence to these the stomach attempts, political and violent and otherwise of talent. tell us to me, is it not only that they don't have rights but that they don't really exist as a nation? was not the women. this would not have been possible. this is people who sign and live all over the world and still share an identity. but no, i mean, isn't the reality of a bit more complicated in terms of political participation and decision make or policy and women? absolutely, absolutely. and that's one of the many injustices that we face. and this still
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traditional patriarchal society that we are central and everybody understands that . but women still have a very, i would say, you know, what steel ceiling and what it comes to political participation. there are icons of palestinian politics and resistance to our women. but really when it comes to decision making when it comes to the so called palestinian leadership, it is, is basically a rule follow older men and women are excluded. and you know, regardless of, of how effective they are of how respected they are, or they could be in their own community. so those problem still persists, and we are a long way from achieving what we want is women. very society in terms of political participation. but i think socially and emotionally, during this, for an and, and once before, it's maybe because this was, this is an especially brutal war. the centrality of women in families and in
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society in general, has taken central stage because so many were lost. and the, the, the, the balance of a family of a, of a whole community. yeah. your thoughts about what nor said the and what do you think the role and function of palestinian women is not just, you know, in times of conflicts but in these last 70 plus years of occupation. what has, what, how are they viewed within the palestinian society in the communities they live in a well balanced day? and women have long been politicized individuals and agents. not just as wives, sisters on methods, but it will serve as, as fight to, as, as, as political organizes this beat, as with, with agency that isn't defined by their relationship to matt and, nor any of, you know, these reproductive bodies. and they're looking back up throughout posting a history. posting, women have always been has an active, a crucial political and
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a national moments. and they've come constantly have to navigate, you know, these various tensions between feminism, nationalism, and an onto colonial struggle. and that hasn't stopped. that's been a continuous process of all the existence of resistance within the, within that colonial context. and i think, you know, hearing from, from, from colleagues and i'm friends on the ground in gaza. you know, they're really continuing that, that legacy women often, you know, the brand and globally when, when it comes to situations of, of genocide and of war unimed, palestine that's no different and, and gaza, you know, whether it's basically no food, no king on the front of bob and naming your basic life, chose the navy impossible. and so it's the women really are bearing the brunt of, of keeping the families. and i'm keeping the children will keeping the sick and
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injured and making sure that they've taken care of and surviving. and these kinds of conditions, this is unbelievably difficult and no one should be forced to live in these kinds of conditions. yeah. have a maybe your thoughts about this, you know, we talked about the war and guys are right now, but there's also been 70 with breaking in to bring you news that a group of released palestinian prisoners have now arrived in ramallah and the occupied westbank. 13 power students have been freed from is ready. prisons on this, the 6 day update sci fi deal between hamas and israel, the final backs to be released under that view. and we've seen the progress of that group of princes on a fuss operated by the international committee of the red cross, taking them from off of prison in the west bank to ramallah, where our corresponded holder abdullah meet, is standing by now. hold on in the middle of the action. i think you are the tell
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us what's going on. well actually the bus didn't quite make kids here to his final destination in front of the my left foot municipality. what's happened is that the people who had been waiting here for hours actually went down that road and went to meet the boss a bit further down. and so all those released have gone off the boss and some of them have already arrived here. they've been carry this one a, one of those here i'll try to translate to, to you. what he is saying is one of the 15 miners have been released. you know, that's how they can, can you get your microphone in there so that we can hear what he's saying? we don't know. i know what they took all our equipments and tools only the 1st day
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of the war. we knew that something happened and we don't know they used to enter our cells and with the guns. and they used to look us up. there was a very difficult what's your message to the resistance to the people of god. so we sang them and may god bless all the martyrs. or we sang that existence. i ask god for victory. howard, how did you find yourself when you are released? or how does a tree to they? they treated us very bad. they took our clothes, the ones that we had on us. they didn't leave us with any sense. it was a very difficult, challenging situation. we had a great tool not we were really use while we're here is another use another one
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arriving there being carry. there's really like the lot we heard from the young man is the same that what we've been released over the past few days about very difficult conditions inside the jail since october 7th, big mismanagement, and then all of them also say the same thing that until a few hours ago, they had no idea that they were going to be released. what usually happened as a happened as a pattern in the past 2 days. and i suppose from what he said is the same day. is that basically these a maze i call by may, and i told that they're going to an interrogation, and it's only when they're outside of their cells and taken away. do one of these up in this digit rooms inside the jazz that they're told that they're going to be released and then there's the long wait. and also, all the facts that given before leaving one of them is not exactly not to do what
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is happening right now. speaking to the me just celebrating the fact that they're fine any out. but most of the people we spoke to in the past few days, said that they would do it any way, regardless of the threats. they will always be a reason to be detained. that's just a sentence that you hear over and over from about this thing is we're not going to try to go in there. see who else has been released. that is a do. we spoke to her daughter a couple of hours ago, live a she is a 65 year old woman. so here and was a re solar being carried. and we hope is that she's the one in there talking but it's going to be very difficult from here to bring you any sound of that. we'll just continue going around and not all of the 13 that are being released today have made it here yet. so we will be getting a,
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you will be seeing the scenes of people carrying the new new release on their shoulders. i'm fine to give them a welcome, a proper homecoming despite of all of that because you know the testimonies and the witnesses of what those who are released earlier in the week. i have said that i have shopped an angry, lots of police, didn't use the fact that they came out saying about how they would treated inside the jail since october 7th. how those prisoners were basically bearing the brunt of the anger. and they were bags. they said that they were made to pay the price of the have mazda attack on october 7th. and also people were very angry when they heard about this rent that day. and the warnings that these prisoners were giving before the release. and so in the act of defiance, you have here,
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families coming to pick them out for a bit, or would you be fired was bad. but you also have just people who are showing their support the despite the fact that 3 in the morning here. and it's pretty cool. um, the palestinians who are here one to show that they will read their prisoners and the people and they will give them the proper treatment despite them everything . now does that, we're going to do i bit down that road and see what we can see down more present. sweet prisoners. i would say that are making their way here. hold on as you go. is it? as you go? yes, you can hear me keep moving, see what you can find out. but these people, of course, will be all too aware that the numbers of how the city prisoners released over the past 6 days of the seas. 5 deal now. amount to some $210.00 amongst a 1000 to being held on that the fire is right. these do they talk about the
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possibility of extending this deal? people on the ground, they're wondering about that was certainly they all wondering about that and they came up to us as journalists asking us if we had any information about it. you know, on one side, the extension of disease fire means more prisoners release, at least that's the whole year. the west backend, probably in. okay. 5 he's, there is a but there's also it means that you have rest fights for the people in gaza. you people here 1st thing is here, even if there geographically separated from gaza, even though the vast majority of them would never be allowed to get into that. that they since seems very close to the people and gaza. they say that it's the policy
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same. you just the same as the people here that they're suffering is the same and that they feel it deep inside them. so certainly when people talk about disease fire, i'm going to speak that we have the mileage is less than you are tell you very much. you just said that it's for you to know what software that you need to go. and so for me, daddy can tell me, wouldn't video arrested on how long has it's been them. this whole of i was inside for at the administrative detention for 6 months, and then they renewed it for another 6 months. where is that a lot going to put them in? so which present and where do you release and how much i need to be to enough. huh. and then they took me to all for it was like a long,
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i'm not sure who called between different prisons what savannah and search and the last and you don't know what's going on the go with signal courses. and by the we've heard the situations inside the prison, very good, especially after the 7 to walk over a group that yeah, it's very difficult. tell us what you saw. the i see why 2 from the outside world. there is no radios muffin. not even a t v. i need electric equipments. they to model the food is very little. every 2 people channel one is like my fixed make got how the prisoners and their patients, the mackenzie didn't know what was going on outside the prison. it gets worse. so i know we didn't know we were isolated from the outside were cut out how to day. when did you know that you would be released? i had the feeling because there was a did. they were i'm,
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they only told me 2 hours before i was released and that's where i live. they took me a lot of time in the morning, the dad do the metal. i don't know what other people told us about there where they started to work. yeah. yeah, they told me not to do interviews, a lot interviews like what we are doing now. yeah, that's like that. i didn't get it, but i ever gotta tell it was the what's the purpose of this, the search? i don't know. it was close to us or quickly. they just wanted to threaten us and make us a fearful they are a so a lot of people outside inside yes, there are was. it's hard to leave them behind. yes, it's very difficult. i have a brother inside. i have so many cousins inside the prisons. i know. yeah, hopefully hopefully they will all be free done well if they have good discharge
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on their patient. yes, i am his father. thank you. thank you. bye bye. i sounds like a. ready what's your feeling? oh, my god, bless all the marketers, the mark tons of guns and the ones from the west bank and to from jeanine. we are from jeanine. may god bless them all. our happiness is not complete. we have a marked her engineer. and even though my son is at least because marketers, they are the most noble of all the martyrs of the kind of the homeland the martyrs. from gusta on from the west bank
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also stay to 6 months administrative detention, which were then extended for another 6 months. and he still have another pro not are inside the prism. and we are hopeful here with the internet and it is one that you hear over and over again. several members of a say, how many be in prison, brothers, father's, husbands, wives, cousins. this is the story really of the palestinian people. and that's the same thing. i've heard over and over again. it all these years. i've been covering here . they would tell you there is not one household. there's not one family in the occupied was bad. that has not been the days as another member has been detained, is the day will be the day. this is just part of normal life and also something else. the is, if you heard the father there say that it's not. it's a bitter sweet moment because of the what's happening in guys that because of that
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huge amount of data in gaza and people here are very mindful of that. they would tell you that, again, as i was saying earlier, despite the demographics of separation, despite the fact that even within the westbank, they are all these many dogs, as, as they say, because it's so difficult to go from one city to the other. and sometimes it's impossible depending on the road closers. well, the old still feels that they're all part of one society. now we're going to see this is another lady has just been released they were a lot of restrictions on the prisoners after the war. they were very harmful to us, they used to your guys on p thing and they took us and.

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