the, the, [000:00:00;00] the, the united nation says palestinian women have phone the front of israel on slots in gaza, 2 thirds of those killed. and i was a, fortunately, again, some of how women and children. why are so many women victims and what can well do to protect them? this is inside story,

the hello and welcome to the program. i'm fully by people. israel went to war in guys that on the premise of destroying him, us instead in obliterating vast areas of the gaza strip. it's killed or maimed. tens of thousands of palestinian civilians and forced more than one point. 8000000 defeat many have no homes to return to us. they have been destroyed by is really and western supply bonds. the united nation says women and children have suffered the most and is rose relentless bombardment. combined. they make up nearly 70 percent of the debt. so what difficulties do palestinian women face living under constant attack? and what's the well saying or doing about it will be putting those questions and want to, i guess in just a few minutes. but for us,

this report from alexandra biased of the mothers of palestine future are being wiped out. the un says is rarely strikes, kill 2 mothers every hour and gaza. 7 women, every 2 hours leading palestinian men and children to mourn the most fundamental figure in their lives. the women of god, hold their world together and give life to future generations and their suffering unprecedented tragedy. the and the head of the show, how does this? yes, i am in the 9 months of pregnancy and i was unable to work with great difficulty until the readings that we saw. this was our own i as we feel that we were dying and we had nothing, life was very difficult. the un says there are 50000 pregnant women in gaza. more than 5000 are due to give birth within a month,

in unimaginable conditions. $150.00 women are delivering babies every day with our tool to without painkillers, without any studio for 2 sections. without electricity for the incubators and without medical supplies, yet they continue to care for the children. for the sick, for the elderly, mixing baby formula was contaminated of altered when they find it going without food so that the children can live another day. day after day, women do what they can to keep their families safe. cleaning is really bones on foot. started, not just the road that leads to that. it's like be a fucking up the difficult, very difficult, the walk and walk and the walking dead. those who have lost sons and daughters of the wounded, pregnant women, have been searching for shelters and salvaging food. the life is not known. the a 127 people sleep in hand. this room,

our husbands brothers and sons are sleeping outside all without any real hope for peace and nowhere near enough humanitarian aid. day after day they refused to give up. the vic was the one loving had, this is not the 1st one, it's been destroyed. it was demolished in 2008 was in 2014, not in 2023. and it will likely be demolished again when i'm the but we will rebuild it. and again, so far more than 4000 palestinian women have been killed by israeli bombs. a number that's likely to rise. but in spite of these seemingly insurmountable odds, palestinian women are determined to survive. alexandra buyers for inside story the while that's now bringing in august for today's show in a run my line the occupied westbank is nor or day political analyst and former spokeswoman

for the palestinian task force on public diplomacy in occupied east jerusalem is yara, hawaii, senior analyst set out shaka, the policy and policy network and hosts of the re thinking palestine podcast. and in cape town, south africa is has a bar associate director of the women's rights division to human rights watch. ladies, welcome to you. oh, thank you very much for joining us on inside story nor or day in ramallah. let me start with you. is israel is war you think deliberately targeting palestinian women thank you fully. i think israel's war is delivered to targeting the fundamentals of life in gaza and in that sense it would go without saying that it is targeting women and children and affecting the most adversely when you see that entire neighborhoods have been wide, wiped out that the medical infrastructure of an entire society has been debilitated,

has been completely destroyed, the people who will feel that destruction. oh, 1st and most would be the women and children. big displacements will affect the most. and so in a way i think, yes they are the primary targets because if the women can't handle all of that page and then all of that are going to use the caps or via the score that really the society itself counts because they're in impala funded particular, and after so many years of oppression and occupation, they're the glue that called society together. it's the women to do that. and nor interestingly, and significantly, all women killed in this conflict and guys have come from all walks of life. they were just unless they were un workers, they were health care workers. absolutely, and that will have a long term impact on everything on a loss of life on services, on different professions,

on the way the society will function even after the war is over and nothing basically will be the same. yeah. all right, let me get your thoughts. what do you think the impact of this war has been on palestinians? a women's rights and dignity? when i 1st and foremost, i think it's important to note that the absence of palestinian women in gauze on this panel for palestinian women, there are different experiences of buying that's in the hands of these for any regime for decades. kind of steam women in gauze. i have been at the forefront of pilot and so i mean they can speak to that from a place of expedia and we have tried to to reach palestinian women. and you guys have but you know that kind of to the issues as well. and it's been extremely difficult, but we have to try to do something to reach out to them. and i was just about say that so many of them are not able to share their experiences in this moment because communications are deliberately being limited. and also because surviving the

ongoing genocide is, is understandably taken precedence. and you know, i think it's very difficult at this moment to get accurate figures on, on who's been killed. but we do know that at least 15000 palestinians have been killed in 05, a 7000 onto the russell, and also got 15002 thirds of women and children, at least 6000 children. and at least $4000.00 women and probably the same amount of men i'm there is this tendency to put women and children in the same category. and i think it stands from the understanding that a more on conflict, they are the most vulnerable. and i think it's important to highlight that vulnerability, but i also think we have to give agency to palestinian women. and i think we have to be careful that we done the politicize and that adults, they are in that category. and i think, you know, inevitably in situations of conflict in one genocide because of existing patriarchal structure,

suggested issues that disproportionately affect women. i think maybe not going to be, you know, as a disproportionately affected a, in, in the going to the side and all the stuff which is incredibly, incredibly broad to which is targeting, you know, residential buildings which is talk to health services, which is even targeting, you and shelters, and so as north said, is ready, regime is essentially talking to posting and life and goals. and inevitably the women will be a call back. and, and yeah, are you raise an important point, which i'll come back to to know with, in just a few minutes the role of palestinian women in protestant in society and how they're viewed newer. but i want to bring her into the conversation. i 1st heather i yeah, i mentioned that in war and conflict and not just in gaza but around the world very often is to women and children that bear the brunt of the violent talk to us about the difficulties palestinian women are facing currently in gaza on the constant attack and what the world is saying and doing about this. well, you've covered

a lot of this, um, in the, in the intro to this, like brandon and the other speakers have as well. i mean, it said it's an unspeakable situation for everyone. of course, but it affects women and girls and in some specific ways. obviously the collapse of the health care system has is one clear area where, um, you know, it's, it's pregnant women who. busy are experiencing a crisis, but it's not only them it's, it's anyone who's trying to get regular health care, including sexual and reproductive health care, which is certainly going to be unavailable to people. it's the, it's also about the role of women as caregivers. because of course, we know that caregiving has very gendered and so if you know, trying to find clean water to make formula for a baby is more likely to be the task of, of women and then a man. but they're also a bunch of issues around sanitation and menstrual hygiene. and, and also issues about, you know,

we know that and conflicts. one of the things that often happens is an escalation in sexual violence. and you're suddenly in an environment where any types of services and prevention will, will not be functioning at all. and this type of crisis have a, is applied to a policy and women in gaza right now. do you think it's registering strongly in, in our, the western world in western media? why isn't they more noise made about the flight of, of policy and women right now as well? you know, i think um, as, as often happens, the situation as it specifically relates to women and girls gets drowned out by, by broader discussions of political issues. um one of the points, but i think is really important. is that 23 years ago, the security council passed resolution $1325.00, which said that women are supposed to be full participants in all discussions about

peace. and we see that all these years later that's ignored all the time. even in process is led by the un am and you see the consequences of that, i think in a lot of places around the world. all right, nor let me come to you about this, this issue. the guys a was certainly shown this in charlie t of women to the palestinian cause. and we see this every day talk to us about the function and role of women in palestinian society today and how they're viewed as well. i think one of the things that this floor has demonstrated and has also, ironically showed, is the sun charlotte t. a movement in listed in society. and it has human eyes, our man for a change. it has shown our man and how attached they are to their mothers to their wives, to their sisters, the fact that they can get emotional, but they can cry. they grieve for the loss of those central's tigers. in the past, um,

over over the past decades and since the neck of less than he had women have been the heart and soul of the palestinian people. they're the ones who are able to preserve our identity as a nation to keep a, the, the, the, not just the nation a live, but to keep generations of palestinians knowing for they are being proud of who they are doing, where they come from. and also not it's coming to the dehumanization to the denial of existence to these the stomach attempts political and violent. and the other wise of telling palestinian is it not only that they don't have rights but that they don't really exist as a nation. we're not the women. this would not have been possible. this is people who sign and live all over the world and still share an identity. but no, i mean, isn't the reality of a bit more complicated in terms of political participation and decision make or policy and women? absolutely,

absolutely. and that's one of the many injustices that we face. and this still traditional patriarchal society that we are central and everybody understands that . but women still have a very, i would say, you know, steal ceiling and when it comes to political participation, there are icons of palestinian politics and resistance to our women. but really when it comes to decision making when it comes to the so called palestinian leadership, it is, is basically a room full of older men. and women are excluded. and you know, regardless of, of how effective they are of how respected they are, or they could be in their own community. so those problems still persist and we are a long way from achieving what we want is women. very society in terms of political participation. but i think socially and emotionally, during this, for an and i don't want that before. maybe because this was,

this is an especially brutal war. the centrality of women in families and in society in general, has taken central stage because so many were lost. and the, the, the, the balance of a family of a, of a whole community. yeah. yeah. your thoughts about what nor said the and what do you think the role and function of palestinian women is not just you know, in times of conflicts but in these last 70 plus years of occupation. what has, what, how are they viewed within the palestinian society in the communities they live in? as well as the women have long been politicized individuals and agents, not just as wives, sisters, some of us, but it will save us as fight to as, as, as political organizes this beat, as with, with agency that isn't defined by their relationship tonight. and not only as you know, these reproductive bodies, you're looking back up throughout posting

a history. posting. women have always been, has an active, a crucial political and a national limits. and they've comes constantly, have to navigate, you know, these various tensions between feminism, nationalism, and, and onto colonial struggle not hasn't stopped. that's been a continuous process of existence, i'm resistance within, within that colonial context. and i think you know, hearing from from, from colleagues and i'm friends on the ground in gaza. you know, they're really continuing that, that legacy women often, you know, by the brand and globally, when and when it comes to situations of, of genocide and of war. unimed palestine that's no different and, and gaza, you know, whether it's basically no food, no king on the front of bob and naming your basic life, chose the navy impossible. and so it's the women that really are bearing the brunt of,

of keeping the families and not keeping the children will keeping the sick and injured and making sure that they've taken care of and surviving. and these kinds of conditions is, is unbelievably difficult. and no one should be forced to live in these kinds of conditions. yeah. haven't made maybe your thoughts about this. you know, we talked about the war and guys are right now, but there's also been 7475 plus years of occupation. what has that meant? for palestinian women, the impact on of the occupation on palestinian women's legal, the social, their economic and political status. whether in guys that all the occupied with. i know it's, i mean absolutely and, and my organization has written a lot about the impact of the blockade over the years on the people in gaza. and, and of course, that like this conflict will have had a disproportionate impact on women and girls. and, and, you know, it's, it's important to recognize the leadership that they've been able to, to provide in spite of that. but no one should have to face those kinds of

challenges. and, and one of the things that striking to me, you know, watching from a distance and trying to learn about, um, the, the activism that's happened calling for peace and post on. and israel is about how much that's been led by women and how, you know, there been some, some powerful organizations that have brought together women from both sides to, to call for peace in spite of the fact that they keep being excluded from these high level discussions. but what about western feminist have a, you know, i know um, yeah, i mention families in bed and, and western seminars and seems to tie women's activism to certain roles and frameworks. why is the struggle of policy and women in much of the west and seen above the image of, of the weeping mother, you know, the victim and so on. why are the struggles of non western societies not considered

as part of the women struggle as well? i mean, some of them as a work in progress, like like everything else. and they've been a lot of powerful critiques in, in restaurant recent years of, of what people called white feminism. and, and those critiques are pretty valid. and we just say that post indian women are not the only ones feeling neglected by western or white feminism. and i think there's a lot of work that, that, that some of the women's rights activists to have more access to the quarters of power in, in washington or in the europe can do to be in solidarity with women in other parts of the world, including palestine okay, know perhaps you, you want to add to that that the, the way western, you know, families and perhaps neglect the issue of palestinian women. yeah, and i, i think it's very not worth the, we've seen a lot of a lot of protest, a lot of solidarity with the palestinians, but there are some groups that were missing. and there are some, you know,

a noteworthy i think, absences including the dying of women, struggle and feminist, a goals with what, what is happening was what palestinian women are. and during including solidarity with palestinian journalist, many of whom are women, they've done an amazing job. there and during the unbearable and they're braving very, very dangerous conditions. and yes, i didn't see enough of that a solid there at the but it is, you know, i as your guess that it, it is unfortunately something that is not new. it is a sign of so called white feminism, and i think we need to more and more elevate the voices of the farmer that's in the south, so to speak. that does not perhaps fit in the box mainstream. i'm and as a man it needs to be accepted for what it is rather than be made something else. yeah. right. your thoughts about best to your thoughts about you know,

what makes guys as women, invisible in, in, in the eyes of western feminist as well. i think it's 1st and foremost, i think it's important, clarified because i don't want that to be a misunderstanding that the majority of the new women are not quitting for peace. they, according for justice upfront and colonial ation, and the majority of palestinian women view that struggle through about onto clothing or latins. and i think about misrepresentation of policy. women is another consequence of white communism which, which inevitably de politicize is palestinian women. and we all saying that again for the narrative, unlimited garza where we talk about the humanitarian situation, which is incredibly di, but not focus on the humanitarian situation without putting it in its correct political context, which is wonderful. a colonial oaks the patient is really close, your patient does, the sub is not only to publish the women but to to feminism and to women in the,

in the global south. and i think it's incredibly important to emphasize that what's happening in gaza as an inevitable. you know, we're looking at political actions and decisions the forcing posting in students and goals and creating policy women into these conditions. you know, this literally could end tomorrow if there was the political world to do so. and then for to me, we don't have that political because palestinians including policy women, have been dehumanized for so low that there is limited will to, to stop, to take stand against the as ready regime from continuing this genocide. all right . have a yeah, i said the political actions and decisions that have that have an impact on, on women in gaza. but this is again happening politics around the world, women bearing the brunt of the violence. but at the same time being excluded from the political process. how do we change that? how do we protect these women in these config zones and make sure that they are

part of the political decision making process? a dan, it's, i mean 1st sir, i just wanna, i wanna thank you, you're a for your comments and that clarification and i'm sorry, it sounded like i was saying something different. um, but yeah, i think it's a, it's a very hard question to answer about how we change this. i think that the listing of women leaders is, is one way to do that. if we had more women in key political positions around the world, i think that that would make some difference. although of course we know that i'm being a feminist. you became a woman leader. not always the same thing. i think the trying to make bodies like the you and follow their own words and, and do keep the promises that they've made. and reminding him of that again and again and, and, and lifting up the voices of women. so from countries that are experiencing conflict from countries where, you know, you're seeing women being disproportionately killed,

bringing their voice is actually 2 places like the security council and hearing from them directly is something powerful that i know there are people working to do . but it doesn't happen enough and there isn't enough space. all right? nor are they in ramallah policy and women, as we've heard and said during this conversation on not just victims, there are central to the palestinian cause and the existence of, of the policy and people as you said yourself, rests on them. so what should the international community be doing, and what should the palestinian people be doing to protect fees when? well i think right now the international community shouldn't be doing the bare minimum, which is to get a ceasefire to end this aggression and to a find a way that has a political horizon that needs to be aspirations of palestinian. and i regret, i believe, don't see that materializing at the moment. i don't see that

a of being in the offing or in the discussions. unfortunately, not yet. anyways, but for our study, i think in terms of protection, regrettably, i don't think there's a lot that can be done. part of the reason why so many women are dying in one stripe, for example, is because so many are displaced. as we saw on the report. at the beginning, the women stay in one place to kind of give them some space and some privacy while the mount men either stay in the right phone or outside or in the yard of the, of the school shelter. so when one there is a strike they, they go in groups, they go and, and basically would the entire family. so it, it breaks my heart to save this, but you know, there is just no, no safe place for physical safety in gaza. but a lot can be done once the score is done, a lot can be done to elevate women and, and part of it has to do with us. i will send you and we're learning how to work

with one another and how to respect, you know, the version of feminism. we describe to because there are so many different shades of colors of that. and i think one of the most interesting components, perhaps, and the most recent relative, is the a woman who hail from more conservative more a religious political groups like have often hispanic she had who are, or who consider themselves to be found that they need to have an active role in collaborating with other feminist leaders to speak about it to elevate female voices. and to make sure that women are part, not just of the overall, you know, social fiber because it's part of the political conversation and the decision making and, and when it comes time to, for those big a conversation for the, for those big discussions women, the women are not kept outside of the room. we can do that if there is that come right or a so to speak between women coming from different political affiliations and

different social uh idea. all it is whether it's progressive or conservative. right? yeah. or i think i'll give you the last word, what tiara do you think should be done to protect and empower palestinian women? and i think, you know, in the immediate time that has to be a ceasefire. so the new kind of thing is and goals are no longer in the facing from boston. and we've a ceasefire of a senior and a bunch of stuff and maybe the seats will be listed. but it doesn't show up that because palestinians will still not be free. and i think this terrible moment that we're experiencing now is also a pivots one to the power of states struggle. i think it necessitates uninstall stance, that this colonial occupation can no longer continue. and i think, you know, it's,

i think posting ins across the world are gaining sort of diety among other groups. i think there is a connection on a sort of guarantee connections that is unprecedented in creating a long feminist groups amidst all of this, this hara, i know, missed this ongoing genocide. i think that is one of the few areas and spoke to me in some hope that we can see what this interconnected with is this sort of down to networks are recognizing that the palestine is, is pivotal to the politics of liberation. and to is farrah. i'm with just 12 ladies. thank you very much for a very important conversation and insightful discussion. thank you nor day. yara, hawaii has a bye. thank you for joining us and thank you to for joining us. and for watching this program, you can watch it again. any time by visiting our website at all g 0 dot com for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a great insight story. and of course you can join the conversation on x i'll handle

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