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hello and welcome to the program on top of the crime in the 2 months as well as war on guns off to him off as a tackle this territory has caused a catastrophe for the 2300000 palestinians living their traps being massacred and maimed by relentless, foaming. and the total blockade by one of the most powerful is in the world, backed and by the us and western allies is rouse on. slowed has killed mostly children and women. it's the ride government includes ministers who have advocated the genocide of palestinians in the habit educated defense minister who calls than human animals those and gaza, who survive as well as western bombs and missiles faced the risk of death from disease and style vacation. and as the world once has gone, so it is being transformed into a how long this?

so what hope is it for a safe 5, the quoted amount of you in secretary general, antonio gutierrez, and does the current will the order need to change to stop the slaughter of innocent palestinians? we'll be discussing this and more without guest and just a few moments. but 1st, this report from katia lopez hold a young blanket terrace has taken the action he has this week and was it mike made? violence must be condemned. it's extremely rare for us. the secretary general to apply article 99, but the u. n. chief antonio gutierrez has invoked it, thereby directing the un security council to address the war in gaza. inaction, he warns, will deep in the crisis and lead to reversible consequences from possible epithets to the widespread displacement of palestinians in neighboring countries. 2 months into israel's were on cause on nothing has been spared, at least $17000.00 palestinians have been killed. more than $7000.00 of them

children and without a ceasefire, many more deaths will follow some post city and say, despite surviving airstrikes they already feel that the other out of nowhere like just to everything full and i heads. if you asked me this level of destruction and death of the one in the same life is not just about eating, drinking and sleeping, you must be able to feel secure and a piece. i mean, i have had the, i mean, lack of food medicine and fuel is making and already dial humanitarian crisis worse . leading hundreds of thousands more desperate. and that risk, the un says the delivery of 8 into guns that is nowhere near enough to rhetoric it's, it's something dependable. and frankly, it's not sustainable. is really leaders have called on the u one chief to step down by invoking article 99. they say the u. n is showing it's biased and helping come up. but in gaza, the short lived ceasefire is now

a distant memory for more than 2000000 civilians. survival has become a way of life. katia look to so the young for insights story. the article 99, it hasn't been used for decades. so what does it do is it allows that you ins tom diplomat to speak when he believes the situation threatens international peace and security. it was last use back in 1989 when the vin, the secretary general, called for a c spot to stop living on civil war. was also invited to 1979 to cold, around to release $52.00 american hostages. when are you in chief? has the power to invoke the article, but doesn't have voting rights on the council that still falls on the 15 countries that make up the security council. 5 of them, permanent members with a visa or a palace that spring in

august. now in denver, colorado is mike leon goldbeck, who is the editor in chief of you in dispatch. a platform which provides coverage on you end related issues in dublin is jennifer cassidy. electra and diplomacy and international law at the university of aux with, as well as a full, the diplomat, natasha to islands permanent admission to the united nations and in london. is chris governess, a full minute spokesman for the you ins, relief agency for palestinian refugees? he's also found the of the me in my accountability project, which is the humanitarian organization, and will welcome to little 3 of you. thank you very much for joining us on inside stewart story festival knock. if i can begin with you, can you just explain how significant this move is from gutierrez? does it actually mean anything? or is it largely symbolic? so it's institutionally significant because this is only the 6th time since 1945 that a secretary general has invoked article 99. and it has meaning to the extent that

it compels the security council to hold a meeting on the issue to which the secretary general wants to direct their attention. but beyond that, it's hard to measure the impact of this specific meeting because the kind of broader geo political dynamics that we're seeing at the security council towards the israel and palestine crisis really haven't moved all that much since the last time the security council met on this issue, which was november 15th jennifer festival. just how powerful is this move from gutierrez? and are there any potential risks in doing this to him? could potentially back 5. do you think ro, at, as noted previously, this is the most powerful tool dash the sexy general has in his diplomatic toolbox, if you will. it is the only thing that can, to allow him to make a stand,

to speak up for the crisis. unfortunately, as, as was noted, he cannot have a vote on the security guys or i, he cannot remove the visual and that is the crime we blockage to the if no diesel brockridge at the moment to do and calling for a current anti virus. that is the visual all the us now regarding could be fax right around him. no, i'm not, not to the extent of the critique he'd already received. he's already being told that by israel after this the, they said that the general had reached gross and new moral. uh no. i think that he was citing with them. i know they've been saying this since the 1st moment that he spoke up against this humanitarian crisis. so in the jar he acknowledged to be over . whelming, a number of un states are in support of a permanency spar are in support of this charger being invoked. so no,

the only critical criticism and critique you have is oper, station rigor, israel at the moment, so i don't think you can backfire regarding the position he's in them. yeah, and, and as we mentioned in the introduction, he's basically said that there was an impinging humanitarian catastrophe. but uh, chris people in gauze, i had been saying that especially with an under what had been saying that set for weeks if not for more than a month now. so why do you think gutierrez's triggered article, $99.00? most of the reasons, i think, 1st of all, he realizes that the situation on the grounds has reached an unimaginable stage of mister every hour. that this conflict goes on. the wind, the chunks of a wide, a piece of being brought to them at least receives a st with every of the cost is or the goal. so let's not forget for a 130 staff members have been run, have been killed. i'd like to say that mr. gutierrez withdrew counselors attention

to that effect and highlight the fact that news news to go conflict of because you had lost so many was but i think cool. so he's just concerned that this guys ignited a wider conflagration and he's pretty much said, so you have a situation which as you said, your instruction is really minutes. as the prime minister himself is cool. i'm a physical genocide against the public cities. you go, it's really ministers cooling for a new home to be dropped on gods, which at least i guess confirms of israel does have a need play a ball which exposes by the way, some of the hypocrisy that apparently is that case. the one of the most fall arises a racist religious organizations, governments in the middle east to have a nuclear bomb. and you have this great concern about to run even developing robins . so i think, you know, the time when a 150000 is about a will heads up pointing stuff to the cities of high and tennessee. but of time

when the unwelcome is where the bullet is booming off at it's fine when you go to the increased american military presence. of course, the number one to come out of the world is extremely concerned. the tinderbox is very dry and released. the mirror sparks flying around the boulders of you and a mug. i know that you've got you is of the ground uh the united nations. can you just give us a sense of what's been the reaction since he invoked article 99? so the really only player that matters at this moment at the security council is what's gonna happen with the united states. and the, the last time that the security council net on this issue was not until november 15th, and then the united states of stained rather than vito a resolution that at the time called for more limited humanitarian pauses. now the united states is still reluctant to endorse a full throated ceasefire. they say that they want to work directly with israel

behind the scenes to get them to ease up on the targeting of civilian areas. and also let more humanitarian aid in. and you know, that's far the united states still seems committed to that approach. the security council only goes so far on this issue as the united states, less it. and right now, it does not seem that the united states is willing to endorse a cease fire. jennifer, the draft resolution that's been put forward by the u. i a that's cooling for a sweet spot. that's really the only crucial thing that then actually has to happen to anything to change, right? yes, exactly. so the only thing that makes a resolution delete the binding within the international sphere is for the un security canceled the powers. now that's not for to be passed by the side members

and then to 10 non permanent members, it has to be and not be shared by any one of the 5. so for the 1st, the may be the binding, it has to pass. so we're at this moment i, unfortunately, i'm extremely pessimistic. dash, the last is going to, as you sit back on the live this path, i think the, the us is going to use the show. i was fishing into un security council in meetings during the time when the syrian war started. and there was, i was member vividly that day was in the 9th, and that there was 4000 deaths in the syrian more when it started. and there was an article, gosh, i know, and of course we keep keep, kept seeing the visual and now look at the numbers. one was where we are still active with syria and more so i am extreme because a mistake are unfortunately regarding what the numbers we have now and what will continue on the future because of his power to be so chris would as well even

accept and abide by any resolution that was passed, do you think? well, it's not quite right. he said the key actually has to come to the us because that is the government, which is bank rolling israel, who are us. it frankly, unless israel is a, that's the americans as a saw tilting meaningfully about cooling israel to account literally 2 accounts i think carry on we. so let me see people like vitamin lincoln and other important you is it, you're not talking about the importance of as well abiding by its commitments to international obligations on the international. none of that is what, how on the ground, if anything, do you see an increase, we sold the attack on the south way as well, toll civilians, it could go through. so you don't want to say that this is not gonna make any difference. and i mean, it's gonna make a bad difference, i should say, i think the council of law, it's fine, so increasingly irrelevant as it has done in previous and complex. i mean a low as much says the import ranch was the americans. what about the reactions of

the billions of people in the global south, who mr. gutierrez also represents a $190.00 plus member states of united nations. he's also the secretary general, and i think it's going to be up to him to try and make the counsel more relevant. because if all the people of his panel fear is not going to see to lead some meaningful actions, i think there's a real credibility. see problem for the united nations entity, the security council because make no mistake when we start to talk about the reconstruction of gaza. when we talk about the mind they've got to in the 2 of the 2014 conference, i remember very well between 10 and 15 percent of all the folders that went to thousands of pieces these way. these were far into the gods every day. 10 to 50 percent of that was exploded. what it's going to be the un who's called about to do the movie cool. the books do set about. so it will be time speed,

security council to let the organization to kind of relevant because it best cynicism about the us and skepticism about even on the ground that tell us the reconstruction and read about it as a rule. this is good to be. oh, that's good for that. yeah. just picking up a one point that chris was saying there, much as we mentioned earlier, gutierrez has the right to speak of the security council without having to be invited by them in the state, which is normally because it doesn't have the right to vote obviously. but how important is it that his voice is actually heard? she isn't just very, very consistent on this issue. he said 3 things. he's condemned to come off terrorist attacks. he's called for the release of hostages, and he's called for an immediate and enduring it sees fire, and he's joined in those calls by the vast majority of the united nations member states. his message will be directed mostly at the united states, which is the key fold out around the idea that we need a immediate ceasefire in israel and gaza. and you know,

the chances of him persuading the americans on this issue are slight. but it is, i think none the less important, institutionally, as chris noted, he is the secretary general of the entire union membership. and he is seeking to represent global interests here. and the chance of this conflict spreading regionally is, is high. we're one mistake miscalculation a way from this spreading to the israel's northern front. we're already seeing regular volleys of attacks between a ronnie and proxies in the united states and in syria in iraq. and you know, gutierrez has this global view, and my sense is that he'll bring that global view to the security council. and urge in the strongest terms that he possibly can for an immediate cease fire if nothing else to lower the temperature in the region. and to save lives on the ground

immediately. and obviously there's the reputation if the united nations to consider as well. i mean, just in the last year, 2 years will. so they've been many conflicts, notably the war in ukraine with, with russia, the, the conflict into done the going to cut back. jennifer, do you think the people are starting to lose faith in the union's ability to actually deal with these major major conflicts e. yes sir, um do you know why it pains me every or different color inform ridiculous uh to to say that but um, regarding the, the major institutional body, the un general assembly, more speaking of the loss of credibility there and yes. so the branches like for now or do you need that? and i do think around the world, students, students, academics, little makers, are, are looking at the u. n. a and looking at well,

what kind of naturally do. but i think once you were hearing were seen back of range again to the issue office security cancel. once you begin on painting why it actually is so stuck and why can't move at a much faster pace than we, we seen in order regional blocks in order multinational institution. we find once again, we're back to the security kinds that we're back to the issue of the show. now having stats in the whole, actually art in 6 directly beside israel. so i sat beside them for, for years. and every year, the heads of state speak and even the permanent members along the side, the other 190. all the countries will cold and their head for the state week in their speech and say that they need a change, a good security, cancel needs, altering year after year after year received, no change and security council continued to remain enrolled. so the credibility comes back at once again on a gloss, once again to the, to the issue of security guys on the issue of the here can particular me, chris,

i know you touch on this a little bit before. so i want to come to you again on this. do you think that the you with the security council as it stands now is, is that the purpose as well? the school council, as jennifer will tell you as a scholar, reflects the states as well in 1940 but except goals. china is now public member became a public member, a 1971. but the fax is of the secretary general is a pretty good to be speaking to a bully, which doesn't reflect the states the world which gives pilots, but the u. k. a which is blindly supporting the us and you know, that lead part, the role that i would like to say that i think that the sectional has an opportunity or the have an opportunity to speak the time. so that's a cause which the well known. and so it's not that hard to say, 1st of all, we all know that it is a lie, but how much can be defeated at beth, israel, and diesel time. it must be a ceasefire. and us as my friends in gauze, or tell me the time for every single sports of the school that indeed the oldest

civilians are killed. 102030 new radicalized and brewed flies, members of the younger generation in gauze, all their, it's like, you know, off to the all right, you're going to rely, all right, and my concern is you're going to get the real how much most of the. so that's one life that needs to be, you know, dispensed with. i don't think some of the policies in the council needs to be shown into the hey, we have government. ready the u. k. and the us to think about who monetary and consent will you taste of contributions to upgrade the 2021. how they are totally about support to humanitarian cruise concerns about a city. yeah. you guys okay, cool. budget is coming down. so what we need to see is some truth testing and then is it just some very small? it's almost all the philosophy children in the bus. they used to call immeasurable it called christie. and what we need to see is some of these measurable report

because these big explain to them is the general. if he speaks the truth, if he has the moral coverage to do that, i think he can begin to redress as this whole question of showing the credibility of the security council moving forward mugs and pretty and honest criticism of the un uh and, and how it how it's been overwriting recently, is that message actually being heard within the rules of the united nations? so i think the world sees the security council's failure to act in israel and gaza, just as they saw the security council's failure to act in ukraine. and they assume that this is the tow talary of what the security council does, that it is paralyzed when a conflict directly involves a veto wielding member. and that's true, but it's also worth keeping in mind that there's a lot more that the security council does. and there are a number of issues on which there is indeed consensus at the security council.

there are something like that doesn't un peacekeeping missions around the world that require annual renewal. and the security council inevitably comes together to renew those peacekeeping missions. just like the one that is helping to keep the lid on conflict in southern lebanon and northern israel, the unit fell peacekeeping mission. similarly, just before the october 7th attacks, the security council got together in a resolution to support a kenyan lead peacekeeping mission in haiti. and there are these kind of routine actions, routine work of the security council that really does contribute to peace and security. that i think often overlooked in conversations about crises in which a veto, wielding member of the security council has a direct stake. and when it comes to that, the security council is indeed paralyzed and we're seeing unfortunately, the consequences of that paralysis right now in palestine and also in ukraine and

for many years in syria as well. jennifer, what is actually going to put the brakes on israel? and is it really up to the us, which we haven't seen actually put, you know, enough pressure on this route to stop killing civilians? what, what will, what will it take? do you think it's well looking at side b, u n, which i fear, we're going to have to do that in order to not get to see fire, but a t t 0 that crack words put the brakes on israel. proactive d at to get the breakdown we're going to have to stop the, the us sending our orange sending arms and sending sending firms and keeping up with the other. i know more diplomatic solution. i think we need to look at this from regional blocks folder multilateral institutions. 3, you need to speak all the way they did it with the invasion of ukraine. they need

to start putting sanctions on israel. so putting sanctions in the us, i know we are in a cost of living prices old as mostly coals by the parts of job and fee and or, and wished with india, european confident. however, you know what we are witnessing and what we're seeing on our screen, it cannot continue to the bricks region approx, b, e a s, and the as the on the we need to perhaps work in more diplomatic regional block and start putting sanctions. and then using their own diplomatic voice, chris, we could gutierrez sided this in and pending humanitarian catastrophe as he's described. i mean, if, if the bombing campaign, if this more, by, as well, on the, on the people of guys or if it doesn't stop what is going to happen. you know, the, somebody you've already got a situation where 85 percent of the gods experience has been displaced at least one . if not multiple times you go to about 50 percent. no more. we simply don't know

because we don't have access to the know all the housing stores in gone, so completely flat and also with the purchase. i mean, depending on the beach, the goal is to be able to tell you it's getting pretty cold and it's close to the rate. and i remember watching the story with all of a sudden we spoke about the child, but literally froze to death. died of hypothermia, you go to the outbreak of communicable diseases, both treat diarrhea, which is a mass killer is left on track, so expressible it. we're already in order to see this as a penalty to mount a terrible catastrophe. disease 60 mount a terrace get past, but i suppose one of the say the big picture is all the people that jennifer said i fully enjoy everything she said. but i think the big picture that has to be that say shes within as well. so let's be clear, but change will also predominantly how to come with it is when itself, when you go far right color tissues talk about dropping your bones and dosing biblical genocide. so clearly for a long way away from that same savings with an extra. but i do think having said

that, he just allow me to save the mythology that was in it as well. but since your patients, since 67 is able to manage this complex build rules and pose the prostate system in the west bank and arrest the children in the middle of the not located garza all of the mrs clinics. but it is will kind of manage the conflict as well, have been told it to believe. since $67.00 is all now has to be less. it has to resolve the conflict as well. depends on the palestinians full the secuity as we saw so tragically on the table kind of sitting so that we get the state from the as well. it's a terrible head and cheese to have to realize it because we just but it's those internal dynamics on the palestinian only is way to decide which are ultimately going to make the difference. like i think we're gonna have to leave it there. but we've really do appreciate your time and your insight, markley on goldberg, jennifer cassidy and chris. candice. thank you so much and uh, thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our

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