tv The Bottom Line Al Jazeera December 11, 2023 7:30am-8:01am AST
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concerns about the new president's plans to come back installation. during the election campaign, he threatened to blow up the central bank and make the us still to the nation's car and see the rainy and human rights campaign in august. mohammed a has been on it in her absence that a sermon, a new way of to winning the nobel peace prize for how many days in a prison into wrong, and has not seen her exiled family nearly a decade. the nobel committee has cooled her the symbol of what it means to be a freedom fighter. in iran who rece, how's the support from say the children if know it goes about how many entities like city whole to collect the nobel peace prize on behalf of the mother. and radian human rights campaign of accused of spreading propaganda against the states . but how many is serving a 12 year sentence as even present into around their acceptance let's it was read out by her daughter kiana. this isn't time union, i am in the reading and women,
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proud and owner to be contributing to a civilization which is today victim of an oppression from a religious, despotic and misogynistic government. the 17 year old twins have spent most of the childhood with that one, all of the parents, the father target was also imprisoned, dinner on before fleeting, with them to friends in 2011. so let me put this on this one. this price is not only a water to my, my, the, to all the it any and activists political prisoners, to all those advisors who fought for it on our mothers and how hard we agree with how struggling i accepted this with that illusory god came to our house when we were 4 years old and took my father by false to present c while missing the mother ali on key on i believe they are privileged to be able to speak for her without the fate of imprisonment. spoke the folks live here, so it goes up in the last time i saw my mother was 9 years old and i already accepted the possibility of never seeing her again. now that she won't a noble piece price. i think the ring and government will cut off her contact with
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the outside world, because if she even breaks free now that the spotlight is on her, she will have more impact mohammed. these come painting is focused on women's rights around the death penalty and the treatment of political prisoners. she's described the separation from a twins as incurable. now guys, mohammed a has divided have a life towards struggle with full freedom and the quality inn around the cost of our own freedom and the ability even to talk to her children. but the son and daughter who accepted the nobel peace prize here on the hub hoff insisted that struggle is worth the price. even a victory seems by far away and on such a full rece august era also. that's okay. that's it. for me, my name's site and the bottom line coming up next
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to the most of the pop up with the high on steve clements and i have a question, has the war and gaza unleashed a new wave of bigotry and hate in america? let's get to the bottom line, the, as israel's war and gaza rages on with no end in sight. everything that happens over or there is affecting people over here. emotions are running high among followers of all major religions, muslims, and many christians. since a sizable portion of palestinians are christian are rallying for the cause of palestine. and many jews are rallying for the cause of israel. now both sides are
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reporting a rise of racism here in the us. and we're not just talking about cases of intimidation and harassment. one week end of the war, a 6 year old palestinian american boy was allegedly murdered by his landlord in chicago and an elderly. jewish man was knocked over and allegedly killed during po tests and counter protests in california. in vermont, 3 palestinian college students were shot as they were walking down the street wearing a palestinian cap. yeah. like this one and speaking in arabic. so are these isolated incidents or a rising trend across the us today on talking with me? have a want the executive director of the council on american islamic relations, the nation's largest most on civil rights and advocacy organization based here in washington. yeah, thank you for joining us. and these are tough times and i just want to get right into the meat of things. so i don't know you, you, you walked into one adjuster, you through a hornet's nest with your comments. that you were glad to see the siege of gaza
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ended on october 7th, the white house deputy press secretary andrew bates of the new york times said we condemned the shocking anti semitic statements in their strongest terms. what are your reactions to the white house and what were you trying to say? the, i'm sorry the, the white house and this goes through my statement and a little bit of money. and the way they knew, but unjustly, and without, without any justification. that's awful up. i said, i never said that actually they saw the video they saw on my speed. there was not a 3rd the board. so for that, i asked the white house to reconsider the position and hear what i said. what i said is the siege on gas or is it leaking? and the kind of thing is you have freedom. they deserve the same freedom that we are applauding. uh for the your people of your ukraine and other
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people who are under occupation or press. there shouldn't be nothing strange about this. so i always said, and i continue to say that i will fight on to some. it isn't in the same way and the same thing, and i fight december 4th, because both phenomenons of people and those communities, both the jewish community and this and community are targeted because of the, for you, by extreme is new jersey, my wife, extremist. and we have been fighting this for 3 decades together. so anyone who doubts this, it would be really method of presenting my position and what i stand. i never meant and i never said actually that i support the violence against civilian people. both is there it is contesting in any way any attack on any civilian and innocent
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people is that that on all it was in fact as it most of them i believe here thing and harming civilians is pathetic and so might be deep as the most tim my values and also my position as, as about a senior and as most of us as an either the largest me seems to go right to an advocacy organization. what i meant by that state is there's an indigo, lucky on the people of guessing for 17 years. the people of guys have 2300000 people are not allowed to move to leave at. that's to they cannot go on. so you can do cation, they cannot go and seek medical health, they cannot live their lives normally, like anyone else on this plan. why that kind of thing? and should be the exception that they should live in an open air prison without having that i to be free. so when i say i was happy,
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i meant that regular kind of thing of residents walk street in the land that was evident click events they had, has there ever been a moment where you saw the divisions exploding on college campuses? exploding we're learning even among the white house staff, inside companies of people on both sides of the line that are, that are not that are feeling pain. but using this moment to move their agendas, has there been any time like this in your past? this is the worst time i've ever seen a boat in communities and people should have the right to freely express their views. no matter how, how much we disagree with them in the civil society, in a peaceful environment where we are people on the weekends, exchange views and colleges, universities and schools shouldn't be
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a safe place for many exchanging ideas. and even debating, i guess about the silence people because of their views is difficult to democracy and should not be allowed to take place. as we have seen, students have been silence, have been suspended. student organizations have been deactivated and cancel. and this is a serious back on the americans right to freely express themselves, the right to have an assembly and speak through the power. it's an american tradition to silence people who oppose the government. the government indicates upper or so this cloud phone and policy is, is, is helpful. the democracy, the more conversation, the more debates we have, the more enlightened will be. and hopefully, we wouldn't be equipped to be a force for good to establish peace and prevent
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a conflict and oppression from taking place as we have seen see what, what i have seen. also this is a new phenomenon. young jewish americans are arising and speaking of their minds in progress of the israeli government and gets up by nature. they are protesting the white houses up. ready which to what's taking place against garza and these voices are new and fresh when i, when i say new and they're not like very, very new. but they have been really a transforming themselves and 3 the angry searching exchanging views with other people. and they have to can stand that so many americans who are learning more about books taking place against the palestinians, both in the west bank and gaza. and they are taking steps. in fact, 66 percent of the american public believe that this government government should call for a few minutes east fire. unfortunately,
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only 7 percent of the members of congress are heating the cold. so questions to members of congress. why are you around to listening to the american public? i mean, there, they elected you, they paid for your salaries. no other group of people. why the rush, you hit the wrong. and in this genocide that's taking place against the palestinian people on some college campuses. we had a very dramatic hearing in congress with re presidents of us from an diversity mit harbbard and the university of pennsylvania. and since that hearing some of these university presidents have walk back their defense of speech in the sense that they were ask if people are calling for a genocide against jews, what would they do about that? and these uh, university. presidents said they have a standard, a brief speech that has to tolerate that. and so i'm interested in whether we need to have a better debate about what constructive and fair and civil debate that's
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maybe deeply felt is, or whether we have to from your perspective, tolerate those that are calling for a genocide of jews, which i find outrages of course we should take a very, very soon and clear sense against any of called even for violence against innocent people, let alone a genocide against people because of who they are. i mean this is a part of it. but also this is what it is doing to the kind of thing and people see what, what's new, what is more americans are learning about and dr. jones and i think the biggest fear is a, has, is uninformed american public. and that's why the, is there any propaganda machine is just working hard. they and, and they are, you know, with all the sophistication but their negative is falling apart in front of the images of children being the bodies of children being pulled from the rubble of
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houses of his adventures, buildings you know, um, kindly as being wiped out of the tooth and destruction the, the, the, the, the, the block, it preventing, the cussing is event to have water, electricity, fuel. in this router, while they're now in garza, half of the population are, are homeless basically now. so people are seeing this, and there is no censorship. if the ministry me get decided not to show those images . and then the american people are smarter and they are, they are on social media and they see the reality on the ground. and they are taking the stand and you know, so, but that should not be misconstrued with the right of people to this city. and also to push back against is there any to join inside the policy? i mean,
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if there's any pressure it should be against this administration that has given the green light for the setup is or has to do a walk in. ready in violation of all international laws and universe, somebody's uneven americans claims to be the the, the beacon of freedom. and under his chum, champion of human rights. especially this administration who claim that it was center human rights in it's folder and policy agenda. we don't see any of the, we see the human edition or the palestinians with the receive dismissing the dismissal of their suffering. and we see that the giving is a noted lines. and now this administration, they feel the pressure and abandonment of the american list of communities. a support for, for by then. and that's why we started to see it shift in tune. not because, you know, all of a sudden they can about the product thing and the called the store and the injury
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done so on. but now they started to feel that, you know, their, their, their, the approval rating is dropping, especially among young americans who see that this is a genocide taking place with this up for a moment. and let me ask you about that. let me ask you about the collapse of that support in youth and if you pull most of americans today, their support for president biden has eroded quite significantly as well. my question to you when they say we're not going to support joe biden. in 2024. the alternative, if things go the way they look today is donald trump, it do, they really believe that donald trump will be better in this equation. then joe biden, people should not steer the. those who are angry with this administration about the identity. in fact, this administration shouldn't be terrified from their own behavior from or their own decision. and the break away from their own base and correct and have
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a shift in their policy before it's too late. or is it your sense that the power of the american muslim and arab community is going to have greater traction in this election than, i mean, i just, i'm trying to understand the political footprint, the political sway. this community has. what is your sense of it? the absolute, the c uh, michigan. uh the do you have the size of the community, the swing voters? they are the ones who basically decide. where is this, what, what would the step go uh, you know, for, for, for which cabinet. and they have done a number of sites uh, georgia. uh, the front of my presumes was looking for about those kinds of boats and something, maybe it has more than $60000.00 votes. right. uh, wisconsin, the size of it you said the community, ohio. excuse me, even in florida. uh nevada. there are a size of them. so community that is organized including arizona and this wisdom
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can meet you as no fire stuff. uh so if this president is serious about not losing them, maybe it's not too late for him to reconsider. uh so yes they, they are very motivated organizing and there's not how to shorten the money and they will not be emotional in that approach. to do the responsible thing, but they want to let this administration and anyone who has taken the community for granted that they should think twice before they keep thinking the way they are now . you had, i am appalled by what i've read or some horrific and anti semitic attacks and also is womach phobic attacks i'm, i'm appalled by some behaviors that have been out there about people expressing views that i would consider constructive. not planned bullying or outrages losing their jobs, essentially being, quote, unquote cancelled on both sides of this equation. candidly and,
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and i'm interested in the many requests of my understanding is that care has received over 2000 requests for assistance. and as you dive down and these can you give us a quick snapshot, and it's probably not fair to give this half a quick snapshot, but of what these people are feeling inside the united states in their communities, in their workplaces in their schools. what's going on? what's the temperature from the 1st week of october and then the 2nd, which is almost like a it's a uh, this period of time. we have received a 2171. and i mean the december 2nd. yeah, yeah, yeah. so yeah, yeah, and then december, 2nd, we received the uh, 2171 complaints and requests for him. and that's like 172 percent of covering the same 2 months of last year.
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uh so it is, it is a sky rocketing and significantly increase in the cases and this is unprecedented. these cases 34 percent of them are present siphoning and suppressing pretty speech with on college campuses and universities and schools. uh, you know, the standings is schools organizations from expressing support to the policy is already been expressing a position that they is the policies or even this administration. and that's really, it should be a red flag for all americans when they see the significant attack on free speech for, for americans to express themselves. 22 percent of the present complaints from employment . so many people lost their jobs, the filed or the job of those have been descended. i c o, as of a corporations work on i sound before be a and, and, and i'm to kind of thing and feelings by sending emails. uh we stand with is there
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any? uh, so that's really created one sided, a position on, on the 2nd place in gotta sign a completely unfair and created how side work environment for, for tens of thousands of not hundreds of thousands of, of interviews. and some of them kind of tested these statements of the had been filed without any justification. we have seen about 17 percent of these, a $2171.00 elected to hit crimes and hit speech. we have seen the case of what the you want me, the 60 old at the listing and the suburb of chicago, who was stab to this 26 times. and his mother was that 12 times she survived. we've seen embedded in building 10 on vermont
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infinity broadcasting and students who were shocked and injured. one of them is now a, paralyzed from the neck down. we've seen many complaints like this one has many incidents . and this is very satisfying and see. this is not unrelated or disconnected with what's taking place in, in, in the westbank today. this is david jimenez, zation of the palestinians is completely related to the attacks on the palestinian community and the united states. because you have so many elected officials, immediate, all, you're talking about settlers, the settlers in the west bank attacking palestinian residents in the west bank. yeah, yeah. but also, but also here. so many electrical officials and commentators like, you know, have, have to humanize the palace thing and, and they had been justifying what's taking place in, in, in the, in against god's up. and that is connected to the impact of
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a sound before we of developing and symptom and in this country. so. so this is, this is really making america, most of our students and even provide a science support as in this country and save an unprotected. and it's a very dangerous environment. you had, i have watched you over many years be attacked. and yet you still call for constructive dialogue. you're willing to sit down with people. but, you know, as the president of harvard said, regrettably, you know, she, she felt sorry for what she said, words matter. what is your experience? i won't ask this very carefully were more. there are people on both sides use rarely side those victims of family members of those attacked the nation on october 7th. and now just so many in palestine as they have seen. as you said children, women, others killed, that are in a sense of this conflict. what is your advice to people in a time of rage and frustration,
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and anger about words and how you get from this moment to the other side, where you hopefully get to something that will eventually have to sort this out and get to a different moment and equilibrium that hopefully has more justice baked in into it for the palestinians. but what is your advice on words? i think people shouldn't be mindful of the humanity to for each other. eventually we are brothers and sisters and we are equal in the eyes of god. and we shouldn't be equal in the eyes of egypt. and we have 2 or 3 and each other with big, with the emphasis who should not allow any sense of superiority, falls sense of superiority to become policy and behavior. and to inflict suffering and being on other people just because they don't believe the way we believe or the cultural is different or the language is different or their background is different. if we fail to align our sense with unit better,
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says badges of dignity, 100 respects for and justice for all we will be the humanizing other people and the immunization. because the 1st step towards the genocide, the jews have gone through this experience in europe. in many places and the seniors are going through this. now in palestine. we need political leaders not to exploit divisions, no matter how legitimate or legitimate to pass the political agent, such as nothing yeah. was been trying and accused of corruption. and so they're throwing up the, the, the legal system is, are right, the one that this, this work is done. you might be address it and he will lose your job. we want our
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administration to be responsible. god bless america with thing with the sources. we should use these for the sources, nothing the white people not to establish, call on these and reinforce companies. we have to use these sort of sources that god bless the somebody that and the american people who give us that hard money in terms of tax payers, we should trust or being we are invested with the sort of sources we should use them to establish peace and equality among the people which would love to reinforce occupations of apartheid. and we should stop dehumanizing the, the kind of thing and people we shouldn't bring is the way it is. i've got a stimulus to the sam table and ask them to reconcile their narratives. and sit for a genuine piece because everyone wants to live in peace, but you cannot live in peace if your neighbor is not in peace. and if you look at your neighbor as a sub human and you can explode them a new concept to get them just because you think that somehow you,
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our problem is something that was never problems to you. i mean, we have to at least couple conflicts from the religious dogma, and just be serious a human beings and 3 equal people with big need to have respect even if it helps us to give fall of an influence. because that's what humanity requires us to do well in the heart a lot co founder and executive director of the council on american islamic relations. i really appreciate you joining us today. thank you. thank you. so what's the bottom line? palestine is real, have ripped open, deep fissures between communities inside the united states, businesses, universities, media organization, even the white house and the pentagon. they're all divided over narratives. they bring to the crisis, islamic phobia is surging, and so is anti semitism. these are emotional and complicated issues, and we're seeing some folks become vigilantes prior to curtail the rights and the speech of others, while others are using american express speech standard to other outrages and
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irresponsible claims and aspirations. there's just no neat way out of this. the sad truth is that we're seeing so much death and destruction in gaza and it will be a long time before conditions move to a more constructive tone in conversation. we're just a long way from that moment in my view. and sadly, that's the bottom line. the the latest news as it breaks many of the people here celebrating, but they say that they're celebrations are sorry. we don't say the number of go too often killed in god with detailed coverage by a release of those. the health comes to the little side of his railings, as in following every sense of this thing and fearless gen and isn't. most children will survive. talk to deal with the pain and trauma of losing their parents are loved. one is canada has to expand the tooth and
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a zillow's fault lines meets those advocating for the change is suicide. but it's facilitated to our way to decide that it's not the right choice. and critics who believe the government is prioritizing depth of, of providing necessary social and economic support. staff was an 8 worked festival and getting some food to eat or getting stuff for their pain. do you want to die today? a fault lines investigation on alger 0. i hope that was what i saw, the thing. all kinds can most intense a lot safe. who should i highly and so i'll send that, come with high level of loss and how many so many def off these are going to give up the and want to know what is the right hand corner invalid.
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when did you fill it in? not in the middle of the desperate search for survive is in gonzalez on the gauzy refuge account is rarely strikes of killed at least 22 people. women and children are moments at the time on the inside. this is all just there in life from the home or so coming up the scenes of destruction from northern garza to the south palestinians attempting to.
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