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to good conservatively to fried his mouth, suggested enshrining in law of what his policy colleagues in saxony on how to have done federally, terry administer, and that's, he sees a p is to agree, one leading lawyer told me, he believes this action is unconstitutional. is right. as right to existence is not a legal principle, it's a political principle that several german governments have adopted, but it's not written in the constitution. and also the directive from is ex, $900.00, didn't consider at all the rights and liberties off the people. effective parliament is already debating whether to relax some of the rules regarding german citizenship to encourage more people to apply. but if the change regarding israel is passed, then it may discourage others, dominate cane al jazeera, bowling. let us take a look at some news from around the world. now. at least 23 people have been killed
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in dozens wounded in a bowman gun and tank on a police station in northwest pocket. stone that happened in the district of dennis 9 han of august on the army was using the compound as a base. the group that he could, you had focused on is claimed responsibility, security forces killed 5 of the assailants being off the house of you and climate talks into by say they're working on a new draw. steel comes a day off through a widely criticized proposal. stop showed of calling for the phasing out of fossil fuels under the rules of the you and climate convention. agreements need consensus of whole participants, 9200 countries. there are those who want stays out, throw those one phase down there or what those who want different formulations. the point is to get a consensus and we don't want one formulation that causes blockages in the process
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. we need that the parties to come together because we need to come back to what's the objective. the objective is to achieve $1.00 is to reduce global emissions by 43 percent by $22.00 giga times. the k is prime minister is facing upon them, and 3 show down nobody's governments rewan the asylum plan and pays will vote later on, richie so next controversial plan to send the asylum seekers to the african country . last month, the supreme court rules are on the was on safe, and the policy with breach international that's it for the show upfront is up next. stay with us here. on out just here, the on counting the costs alike of phone workers. this function is rails. agricultural
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sector into prices as a war on garza escalates gold is flittering. but what about oil plus ready to resign? to save the planet, we explore the growing trend of climate quizzes. counting the cost on out to 0. as far right, self described, and uncle capitalist, heavier, my latex power. this sunday in argentina, we'll be looking into what his presidency might mean for the country. but 1st, israel has resumed its assault on the gaza strip. after last week's the spice and an expanded offensive that encompasses the entire palestinian honestly. but how effective israel's military operation, and what length is israel willing to go to achieve it stated goal of eliminating from us. we'll ask the former national security adviser to israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and retired major general of these really army. this was headliner, cove. i'm enjoying the general. yeah. no problem. enjoy. thank you so much for joining me on upfront. thank you very much
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for inviting me. but after the october 7th, the tax is real launched a devastating counter offensive in gaza. it caused unprecedented levels of destruction and of course civilian depths. now, one of the great concerns from the international community, from human rights organizations and indeed from other nations, has been that israel is not follow the rules of work, particularly this question of proportionality right now. for every uh hum us soldier, killed there been at least 2 civilians in guys that killed. does that seem like an acceptable ratio? you know, it's not acceptable. and this is a line. we think the mouse is making good crimes will pay crimes against humanity by fighting with the civilian population or something of this. and no, nope, a law by the international. the fact that somebody's using the human feel, women and children, and old people to defend itself, like fighting for little houses and the streets and all of letting these people to
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go out of the area of the battle scene. no question, the d 0 a crime against humanity and how much to be punished. and even more than that, we gave a big population time to leave the area and we designated safe havens and have us look the way to those things kind of. and so by bit the syrian seemed to the length of freedom. so you're saying that it was killing of palestinian civilians as a war crime committed by hamas and not by israel. i mean you're, you're basing that argument if i understand you correctly on the idea that her mouth is using human shields. now 1st, that has not been proven by any human rights organization. if i, even if what you're saying is true, that doesn't absolve you of your responsibility to avoid killing civilian targets, you can't just say, well, they are hiding among civilians. so we're going to kill civilians. and you can't
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just say, well, it's almost as full. okay. first of all, uh, as you know in a blue icon can see we fall on the day, how most of the rest, you know, send those under hospitals, the may garza. so if this is not the woman she loved the work you mentioned, you would have pictures of how much it has not been that has not been proved. that hasn't been proven, sir. no, i usually don't really. i, i my friends. well, it's like, i'll meet you with a room. um wait until 6 when the inputs want you to finish the answer. but just wanna be clear for the audience has benefits, but under international law, to, to, to change the status of a hospital to a, it's a military target. the burden of proof is on is real to demonstrate that it is a mazda master. it's not enough to say there's a much spider, there's an upstate, there's a few members of a mazda to change the status. you've got to prove it and you can't just say, take my word for it. just for clarity. say, where's the evidence?
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what was the most, who have been, was proven this. please let me. i'm so that on. we found a little of the most of those sent the little school mind of a, of how much energy the blog killed as you could also be. supposedly the idea if we send you a manual for them. we fund weapon systems on the hospital and we know for sure that at least one most of this was killed in the last people buy from us. but they, they sold all of us, but they loved the, which the combined to combine and say, and control really a handful. this is will say from us we have pictures of some us people going, waited children involved. and so it can, we can. okay. but if you want the picture, i would send you the, the, and please, and the say, you know, the, the, i, i know that you with what's going on with your a, your network, you will shortly. daniel. and the sake of the 12 killing gap
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cv as well. well, here's the thing that we, we locate any single. yeah. and we, we cannot find how much because how much is he's at finding from behind a civilian. so the not to piece of it is meaning meaning of that particular meaning . we'll see. it's not till 2 people come us it let from us to room. they go to sleep, after least on delivery single floor and atrocities. and bring me to be involved. barry, an action which was done by some us a little bit of me, you know, because of the, i think so nicely behind civilians and you cannot civilians so they will be in your wheel most buying the loading and women even continue to the store from us and if the payment would be paid by the civilians, or rather they can apply to how much it costs is there. uh, how much was elected by them and they can apply from us in the us. come us to find the list of the, the wine by the way, if they surrender, immediately we locate any civilian uh, 44 percent,
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little more than 44 percent of palestinian people voted for from us as a reality in 2006 about half of the palestinian population right now is under 18, meaning that most people guys absolutely did not vote for a mazda. it's also just factually incorrect. your vision of security rest upon a military strategy that as you've just described, will inevitably kill citizens, civilians, and will lead to the destruction of more monuments and more cultural sites. more parts of civil society. if all of this happens be and not worry, that it will only foment more resistance, more violence, more people who have antipathy towards these really government. i mean there are security and terrorism experts who actually caution this. they say that israel's widespread killing a palestinian civilians increases the risk of violent attacks against israel, or at least, how do you respond to these warnings that what you're doing,
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the israel's bombardment of die that will actually make israel less secure. i seen that you loved the little the situation before the service of the in the service of the will, the will the cease fire easily, limp that god is living, gave many perform. guys have to come to low can easily, easily gave i'm going on because i have to go into the rest of the community but your computer and really not letting me boss, typically, but i can't allow you to say things that aren't true less than one percent of the type of a, of the guys and population i work for me is what, what was the number of guys that work in his room? i'll give you the number they can 1000 right there to point to 1000000 people in god, but that's not a large number. most of them and guys it cannot leave the to release the, the, the, they say your, i never said you're percent of the sudden diesel. they've tried to go to promote the corner of you, goes up by letting the point 001 percent of people come in. okay, go ahead,
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please finish. why did you finish this up? this because which is on to what fits it was. it was too late to change the blank, the whole can easily. we may not look like the little the little to, to gaze with the, the, the only man after the age of 20 full safety. so result, the respect he was that the the please bring scoring use the piece that i, i didn't, i didn't, i didn't i, i don't know what i should do really, but let me answer which is the lead again. and again, that's all the ones, the ones that can cause back to me. sorry, once again said something that's on true if actually that allow you to continue what be so i didn't cite to hypo, so say the 18000 paper from best the way out every day to can these 2 are these are the number. if he says you say that it is to legal, maybe 6 show me, give more people to organize when we know how the atrocities and the violation of the ceasefire about how am i supposed to be today we have with,
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with the 5. so i don't know, probably because that was the intentional friesland to give more, because the will outcomes. garza and tool can easily and we gave all the relation to the in other countries to bring life and the body seen in a story to save money to us. that because our interest was to grow, they quoted me of the because people believe me is that you enjoy the state because i have some responsibility for the middle of garza and by bro, all the the going on like, well, we'll see a way the plan will come up with that, usually we might have, we stay how much the was being care about these people, how much to initiate the warranty. so it'd be clear the whole and by altering thousands civilians where women babies and right being women as well. so we decided that it is not an option anymore. we don't have any obligation to once it
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goes a route and we have relating to this civilian life, will these people, they cannot blanco's from us. we gave them all, we'll do what it is, how much the scientists to issue the war against these lives. how much would be the price? okay, i again, i, i want to do offense before i offered this correction under international law. israel actually does have a responsibility and a duty to the guys and citizens the do you disagree with that? yes, i disagree because we'll call green god to let them and 6. and these really out of the no one soldiering does the last, the beginning, the lowest lady, the border of guys who controls the border of gaza. you get done with the roof on board. what i'm saying is, is that is that israel controls or border, basically israel has re deployed his troops in 2006 from inside of gaza to the for 3 of guys that israel controls what goes into guys a and what comes out of guides,
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the israel control is the population registry. israel controls the, the, the, the flow of people. and the flow of money is, or what controls guys are by land, air and safe is anything that i just said untrue. just which part. it was thing they just have these love, these look to understand the control, the population registry of, of, of doesn't know here's what doesn't control the flow of goods in and out of gaza. know, israel does not have any military presence on the border of guys. it between these the but know between garza and maybe they can also egypt whenever they want. well, losing what they can bring. okay. you're, i think that all it's very easy because they can talk. you will, rough, uh, you will call you won't and you'll think of plenty to work for you. we don't spoken . okay, so i think the international community will be surprised when they hear your words saying that israel does not control. again, the, the, the, the border is the population registry,
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the electromagnetic for every part of guys. but that's up for the international community. decide when they watch this interview, the committee look, you'll be on the bottom so many little guys that wants to go out. they can go through the dishes to me, like if i don't know if they get to the left thing, but it's no good. it's hope you guys live respectfully, sir. that's a strong man known as disputing that agent has control over the rough border. the, the, what was the issue here was whether or not in 2006, israel left guys, or whether they simply re deployed their troops in such a way that they still control. again, the flow of goods, the flow of people, the, the, the, the electromagnetics via the population registry. every part of a 1000 right is still functionally controlled and occupied by israel, which is why the international community international law suggests that israel still maintains effect the control of the guys when we can agree to disagree. i. i want to move on to another question here. if this really does succeed in its aim of dismantling israel does succeed in its aim of dismantling, or as a prime minister, benjamin netanyahu said,
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illuminating her mouth. what will happen next thing doesn't 1st before i see that you don't give your old is the real situation on the rock. the recent you actually, they rock the, he loves the slope, control what's coming in and out from egypt into the go. the street, the molder between garza and gigi is controlled by egypt mode by he's with your sped agent. doesn't occupy agent. the agent doesn't occupied gaza, he just hasn't had, since we, we owe you guys the 5 w o. we don't. oh, he's buying the guys. that is what we don't to quote is the inside guy. so we're looking goes up. if the use of the of situation of 500 can only do of done is on the doesn't we really, i mean, ridiculous story. ok. and again, you'll, you'll believe that we will have allow, how must be it's basically compatibility if you're willing, does
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a. and it's nice and we've all the respect, again, i'm not disputing that you're in guys. i'm asserting that you read a point from, from, from in the guys in 2005 at the end of the year to the border. and you control it effectively by controlling what goes in and out. so i agree with you that you're not engaged with the point is it's an effective control by how you manage the perimeter. but again, we can agree to disagree on that. the termination of doesn't appear cool, man. no, no, no, we are not clothing. the very mentor of gaza when it is coming to the boulder with green, gaza, and you, we are going pulling the bowl. i would we use the low between cost you sir. if we were to pull out a map, you will understand that the majority of these you look like you will understand. i heard the bulk of the border is not with the roof or is not with egypt. the bulk of the border, the guys in gauge is where with israel, that's number one. and number 2, egypt is not
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a certain military and governmental control over guys the matter of fact decades. so again, to pertain that somehow you're not responsible for what happens to guys when you continue to maintain effect of control as per every human rights organization as part international law. we think of it, this is an obvious fact and you seem to be denying it. we don't have to agree on this fact i'd like to move on so that i can get an answer to my question, which was the one to go? no, i well, i'm not going to start the sir. because why do i know you want me? i know you know that that is fine, sir, sir, sir, let's move on to another quiz. oh, i don't move to another question. i don't have as far as the. oh, sorry, i'm going to meet the low level between easily and garza looking cool. but if the, the point start your major point, if you're saying that you're not willing to move on, unless i agree with you, that there's no doesn't control guys and then we can continue. that's not
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a fact and i won't, but i refuse to acknowledge something that's not long as i usually can. you, you've made your point. are you willing to move to another question or do you want you want to go? so in other words, okay, you just meet the then you can go, okay, why not good? okay, bye. okay, sorry. so certainly you understood, so sir, i'm not going to admit that israel doesn't control guys, so i'm gonna thank you for your time. and i appreciate you joining us enough for and have a good day this sunday bar, right and self describe an article, capitalist hobby and malay takes office in argentina while they ran on the campaign of slashing the states role in public life, including eliminating the central bank and shuddering key ministries, the also valve to turn around the country's disastrous economic situation and expressed admiration for former president donald trump with the united states. and former president, j e are both in otto of brazil. so what's next of argentine? joining me now to answer that question is veronica goggle,
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who teaches political science at the university of windows itis, and is the author of the feminist international. how to change everything. we're also joined by an s those a man who is an associate professor of latin american history at the university of bergen and author of ambassadors of the working class argentina's, international labor activist and cold war democracy in the americas. i wanna thank you both for jeremy upfront and this i want to start with you. malay was pretty much an unknown entity just a few years ago. he was a complete outside or to the political scene. how did he not only rise so quickly, but also in the winning by such a large margin? it wasn't just about the promise of change, a difference from the, the current political class, given the fact that the countries facing triple digit inflation and 40 percent of large tides live below the poverty line. yeah. well, i think of course, when you place you on, on, on a decade or going to because the may june, down to 40 percent of forward the are quite
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a while we're pull framework are sort of unavoidable to understand this and, and, and to make things even worse mean they ran a guy, so quite ation the government quite isn't that a point that the candidate is mean instead of economy? so bushing economic frustration is even more to the center of the campaign. but i think a nice you mentioned introduction, me late, connected the the so long time i showed them frustrations. uh, by putting for a clear message. uh, dimension that was important. now to get more space to person on a 4th, to interpret no shade to give you the free them add the 5 back. i guess i'll start goes such as what we're going to measure need economy or excessive relations. i think these ideas connected, we how meaningful people experience the connected data and as well a life thing which is even labor relations or social programs that are supposed to benefit the bore at none. the less our sort of the idealized by progress reports is
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including the government, but received senior effect all in the, in their lives. but if it's an interesting, it's a fascinating thing though, veronica, right. but i also wonder what else is, is that steak, i mean, argentina, for example, has been at the forefront of grassroots organizing for women. the campaign for women's rights and in minority rights led to things like the legal ization of abortion. in argentina and in the land said very clearly that he would call a referendum of whether to ban abortion again. so how, where he should we be not just what the economic piece of this, but that minority writes women's rights are actually vulnerable under a malay presidency. and i think that, of course, he's an open mental publishing rights. and during the company he said that he was going to call for a referendum. i think that that company is also a reaction. it gave this time is unclear, move money enough to obtain that, but also the idea of uh, uh,
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rights that we where um at gaming in districts bodies. i don't want to like the link the rights and the economic issue. i think that we have to connect that on to avoid that. the idea that at you are now worry of the economic situation or you are defending the rights because the icing, the worst i d, about very successful off my lease campaign is to analyze rights as pre religious. so he said now this time it is and that we have people are the privilege people against the poor people. and he organize this whole sort of but the, against the fun sectors. i'm trying to oppose social
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and feminism create a rights against that ideal in libra, individual and tripping ownership that figured that unless the was i committed it in the beginning. so i think that this is part of his discourse that he's very successful on this is that we have to confront because it is not uh, the way that we can organize a living in cali to or that's what i mean. that's an interesting point. veronica raises right there is the policy question. you know, millay can introduce policies that are harmful to women, harmful to minorities in the country. but then there's also the crime it that gets created based on the way that he campaign and based on the expectation of those political contradictions of those economic challenges. so yeah, how worry, should we be about that? not just about the policies. what about the climate?
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yeah, i don't know, and i don't think we can make really just now if the somebody's treasures you're going to last 2 days or 2 years or 20 years. so he's very hard to know what, how much he's going to move forward with he's agenda. but it buddies, true and of course i agree, a 100 percent with veronica said uh he used a women and minorities a ride us and a space in which he could explore how much he could push the limits to see how much it could be said the destroy in the old gunshot regime, right, associated with, with, with these last a couple of decades of, of, with a more everybody's on, on, on minorities and women. right. and i see what's a typical push in those movements a hold of him to does on ice the fire right or wrong him same thing. wait, we'd, we'd piece explicit any. bridget promises about a revision of a human right. a policies um, but i do think and i agree,
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a 100 percent with that that it creates a toxic environment and, and, and put me much more to the center the, the, uh for the because violence as a component of daily life. and i'm glad you mentioned the window. molly, how long can you and a lot, i believe my word about that then about that, about the specific body. so i'm glad you mentioned political violence cuz i was thinking about this, veronica. i mean, obviously there's a long and deep history of resistance in argentina. i'm talking about not just yet words, but street protests on the ground act. yeah, there's a and i can't imagine that that won't happen if there is mass defense in response to malays policies. how will the malay presidency in your estimation respond to people in the street saying, hey, this isn't working for us. a case for our missing repression? i think it gave these very must've unpopular. i've tried each on the not into now of demonstrations are defined phones off taking the streets. mean they represent
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a reactionary mutation of neo liberalism in response to that's great to go to conditions. so it is part of for long standing free markets, also retiree on for each one, and also a response to feminist unpopular m months. so i think that the antagonism wouldn't be a very strong, but we have also to thinking either conditions off, protest on mobilizations because we have to see in, in, in what sense his promises of repression will be. uh that we'd be concrete on. i think that's uh we would have a different the most ration in the next month, but i, i want to insist we are in
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a very critical economic situation. so these are the most appraisals are also conditioned by these a very critic condition in every day life. i want to thank you both. if you wanna me a veronica ernesto. it's a pleasure talking to everybody that is our show upfront. we'll be back next, the the latest news as it breaks many, a people like you're celebrating, but they say that they're celebrations or sorry, we don't say the number of go too often killed in god with detailed coverage just by of release of those. the health comes to through all of his riley's, i've been following every sense of this thing i'm feeling is gen and isn't most children will survive,
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