of that, but of course the votes going on and other parts of the country, particularly in the north. and i think a cook is an interesting element to that. one of course with gecko beach province. that's not within this stuff election since 2005, which is that on to decades. it's really interesting, especially with the aspirations on the differences or what the status of the cool before you know the court, the sure i'll tell them this region was trying to have a good cook within its borders. and also that all hopes within the people, of course, with maybe to go to watson you state is that the that's why we see right now of the, the turn out that is a box 32 percent in all the provinces such as on. but it's also a high, it's relatively high now in general, it's all around the rock. it's less than 20 percent of the moment. we're going to 3 hours. that's to the full skills. it's all in 17 percent,

but it's interesting dot in on bought and and get cool. seen most of the level of participation is quite higher than the one in depth that in on southern provinces. probably. thank you very much. indeed out a harsh i'm talking to somebody that only i've heard of the actual stations and the wrong are operational and is really hacker groups claiming responsibility be so called private, treat spot or group setting disabled. most of the countries fuel pumps and a cyber attack over what it said. water runs, evil provocations and the region around in media report say the palms went offline due to a technical eta. at least 8 people have died off an explosion to get in calvin honie craig the last on subsequent fire broke out to the fuel devil and the color and peninsula in the center of the city facility is near economy is central prison and residential areas. in the fight as reported, still be burning,

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enough food to feed every single one of its 8000000000 people. we ask why then hundreds of millions go hungry every day. also this week, the communities in africa on the brink of starvation facing the west coast crises in more than 40 years. and with the scale of this food and security, why is funding for age programs that tackle hung up on the decline? the and there's no shortage of food being produced globally yet to move in 735000000 people faced, clinic hunger in 2022 new and has called for a just you monetary, an action to save lives and livelihoods. it's going to the target of ending hung up by 2030 might not be reached. so if the world has enough to feed its people, why just so many nations suffer from food and security and hung up lead us from

around the world, tackled that question. as a recent summit on the label, food security in london, somebody is president, laid out some of the causes and some potential solutions. the system. so for the insecurity is due to variety, to effectiveness, including climate trucks have the reliance on increasing the expensive food impulse, global deception of supply j on weekend for us next year. we therefore need a multifaceted approach that is destroying this investment and piece of security climate adaptive technology and the infrastructure, a financial inclusion, as well as opposed to the columbia countries. bonuses. the developing world is where the biggest challenges exist, according to the global hunger index around 40 countries are in a serious oh, alarming state of hunger. any all or in africa and south asia. the report says

there's been little progress made and reducing global hung us since 2015. so that's have a look at the worst affected places. as you can see, with the exception of yemen, all of them located in sub saharan africa. each of these countries has been affected in some way by conflict and or climate change. if we zoom in a bit, we can see and democratic republic of congo, around a 3rd of its population, a suffering on the nourishment. that means they are consistently unable to meet the minimum doctrine needs. i'm here in central africa republic. that's the west effected of all countries. any hosp, the population isn't guessing enough food on a daily basis. but it isn't just a problem affecting the poorest countries. 17000000 people in the united states. we're not getting enough to eat in 2022. during the pandemic, we store lots of people lining up at cherokee food banks. many came to rely on the government's assistance. when those benefits ended, it caused

a major spike and people going hungry. the roots of label hung connected with the idea of food in security. but what does this actually mean? well, when we talk about food in security, we made a situation where people don't have regular access to enough safe, nutritious food to lead a healthy life. who is the biggest disrupt of access to food? ross has an invasion of ukraine, has left $1.00 and $3.00 equations facing hung up. and it had an even wide impact before the war. you claim produced enough food to feed 400000000 people every year . a lot of that was exported to the horn of africa as a region particularly vulnerable to food shortages. russia and ukraine weeks deal to keep grading flowing, but that collapsed in july 2023. the full out how to even wide economic impacts disruption to global supply chains and assessments. here with a bullet to sky high inflation in many parts of the world,

especially on the cost of food. all of this for as many people to cut back on basic nutrition, climate change as another serious challenge is increase the frequency of extreme weather events like droughts and floods which cause major disruptions to food supplies. un says 80 percent of the wealth hungry as people live in regions that a highly vulnerable to these kinds of natural disasters. let's talk about all this now with a panel of guests in room. david level, director of agrifood economics division at f a. the food and agricultural organization in pretoria south africa is one thing, a fellow but chief economist of the agricultural business chamber of south africa and in sydney is kind of small, a co founder and executive director of shawn. but center for food and climate of i will welcome to all of you david. let's start with you. just outline for us how big a problem is global food and security. so the city and

security can mean different things have different level of intensity. so let me stop by the people that are really what we call the next should switching security . so their life and they're likely to turn the printer and that's 240000000 people . so if we don't are, these people can move really ready to quickly to refer me to tracer. all are already using it for, i mean, sufficient. then you have the people that are currently coming in. and just so meaning that on a daily basis they don't have enough to eat. and that's 750000000 people. then you have the people that don't even wesley go moderate or save absolute in security. so people that have to change their way to eat, you know, they have to cope refi price. you awesome thing to do a lunch or, you know, and that's 2400000000 and then you have 3 point one. be done. people that cannot afford to go to the diets. so if you have enough to heat, but you do

a lot of calories and not enough micro nutrients. so you see the premiums be and there's different intensity depending where you are. okay, the pop up is huge. one day, why on most of the west affected places, in fact, all of them apart from yemen in sub saharan africa? yeah, more i think the problem is perhaps maybe in 2 ways and i'm in david's desktop but where the numbers i'm looking to buy. but i think the 1st part of africa is the fact that you have an income poverty program where it may lost the opportunity from is really not see any salt lake brows. that leads to the improvements and live in stock that said, people being employed in jobs. so what they can't guarantee that decent wage and be able to print or what they need box, they incompetent to dynamic. but we start with the sort of does also that the african countries still very, you know, perhaps the import quite a lot. because if you look at the continent vitality, i mean,

we're still spending roughly $80000000000.00 a salt life and import the sauce in africa. just a whole lot, 40 b on dollars a year, one from to invoice. so that doesn't mean that that, that lower income household in those countries continue proceed on the edge. and the reason for that is, well the, the fact that the agriculture sector in the, in the continent has really also not seen that the levels of improvement in practice, the web store can have supplies for themselves, sufficient supplies for themselves. and secondly, be able to get into the commercial agricultural dangle and generate some beautiful income. so the publisher problem is quite complex, but the african continent does a lot more work to do go selection. but those 2 aspect that are highlighted, i think they give a sense of kind of what, how the problem is. yeah, absolutely kind. the real project here isn't that, isn't the world totally produces enough food? it's just that it's not distributed equally. why is that?

so i think you're absolutely right, there is enough food produced in the world for everybody to eat. so what's going on? why do we have these stubbornly high numbers? and as david said, 240000000 people like who could go into a common situation quickly. so these 3 main reasons that i think this past is food is not always produced in the place where it's needed months. so you have certain people who call access enough food because they live in areas that are too remotes. there's not enough production in those areas. there's not enough infrastructure for food to get to those areas. there are not enough market. so we haven't big access issue in some places, some remote place in the 2nd big issue is income. just because there's enough food available, it doesn't mean you can afford it. and if you don't have enough income to buy the food you need, you're going to be food and secure. and that's the problem we see with

a lot of people. and then the 3rd big issue is the amount of food that we wait. me either because we've got cool harvest infrastructure, so we waste the food that's harvested because it's not properly stored. or we waste it at the consumption edge because this bit consumption and because we buy more food than we need and it rocks and we waste it. so there's about a quarter to a good this 3 that we produce globally, that's wasted. david, just a highlight for some of the non con impacts of a country, a nation of family, a community, it always different levels of being food in secure. what impact does it have on the most vulnerable? i'm thinking particularly of young people. so um this question of legit security? uh he's not the only distributed in the police are not really the touch. we love say, but actually the re, uh,

faced more uh for the security than the cities. women are most of the secure then the menu never age in doing that could be 19 crises. the increase. and when you frustrated thing to like do it in what that means for you don't pay for it, but yeah, i talk about kids also enjoy that being part of their lives. so the transfer the security situation and to show that we have a meeting we've actually, we have long left to get back on the light because the body in mind is not going to develop as it should. um, and that's really what, what is the content as you know, it's in terms of it going to be gross very the long term price off of this current situation. i kinda know the strange that's a long term impacts to this problem. it's been around for decades and decades. what i want to know is why progress on it has tools. they've got the global hung good index of 2023, showing that it's sold progress or reducing hunger as long as you sold,

says 2015. what changed so indeed we'd been going in the right direction for this 30 years proceeding 2015. and it's been in the last 6 or 7 years that receive this regression that we see after 30 years of progress suddenly going and rover. and why is that happening? well, the 3 main drivers on hunger, a conflict change and economic shocks. and those docs are now becoming more normal and they are exacerbating great security. but it doesn't have to be that way. this is a problem that can be sold. we know how to solve it and we know how much it will take to solve it. so actually, david and i were part of the research project, a 3 year research project called series 2030 sustainable solutions to end hunger

with about 80 other researches around the world. and what we found is that if we can extra $330000000000.00 worth of public investment in the countries where hunger is still prevalent. if we do that well, we can eradicate honda and we can do it by 2030, which is the deadline. for the un sustainable development goals. so it is possible that more money, but it's not only about more money, it's also about how we use that money better. and the way the money is currently being spent is not as effective, but as it could be. so in that same report, we focus on 10 investment areas that we say of the highest impact. and that is that extra $330000000000.00 is put into those 10 areas. by 2030,

we can eradicate hung up when, when the, the african development bank says food in security on the continent of africa should not be an issue in 5 years. there is the technology on the financing that is current is just highlighting. do you share that optimism? so right there are certain i'll find a mental things off of me. i don't know what i've done. i've taken a course i have experience in the hour, but my teaching having observed what is locked in some of the countries in the region is that we need a couple of things right. start in the government hands, robert on menu, under private sector in the capital one, we need to improve effort cost, agricultural productivity. if you look at how much its function has happened, say in grade for action from the early 2000 to now, that has been through the expansion in the area planting rather than the improvement in use. then that will mean that we need to use bad testing varieties, better genetics on animals because that not only tuesday,

availability in the continent, but the farmers, the creating those in the agribusinesses back will come alone when they're volumes . not that they will create some sort of jobs, but they, governments, they need to do something around the land governments to trucks. they find anything that will come into the sector. and secondly, be more open to adoption of such and technologies. but they are not, they with the way weight form, how much of that and so is this discussion for you. if we get beyond the economics beyond the ex central crisis, like conflict and climate change, looking at how we use the land. is there some discussion that runs concurrently and are you leaning more towards labor intensive, perhaps most sustainable in terms of ecology uses of the line will locally produce food or do van more towards the technological side and the gm side of the argument . and so i think here you bet, laser buttons to be some be the empty tray. also depends on where you are. you

cannot be dealt with my teeth. i'm that now the thing we've different time, a different type of side, different type of crops and different type of producers. we have smaller to that. i've been fortunate even less than one example for them. but you cannot as all the 5 you need to walk intensively on when they got a plan with a very labor intensive solution because they think that or just keep it with the pool. so, you know, finding way to increase productivity, productivity to atlanta and label is key to push for, for the government. but you want to to make sure that you know that the, to buy the rights respect to the unfiltered intake. today i'm going to hand you have a lot of what goes on file name, that's our new streaming over to you. so we don't even, you know, on the to the, to do it out today. unfortunately, many event cook assigned to the next we tell you for the leave we've lived on when, but all the data. so here that's how we register the value chain. the proceeds,

if you want that i would say i'm just in time, this new technology, i'll need to do some cases. bit to see that because he does something on the gym and he went off of the 30 some. but the speed you think, which program you want to fix, where we have also to think about the low schedule, because they show we've drugs using more, a digital technology, we are, the monitoring system to little farmers, including smartphone is to have access to be the weather forecasts better information on prices, which include, you know, we can bring all of these packaged nationally job including smaller does because we have already a number of all their found that are using them. but you know, it's me pretty joking. company we are talking about when we think about who can, based with it in each food. we also have to give me thinking that anybody to have access to technology and solution. and it's only if you make it inclusive. also on the supply side, that's where we deliver once that security on back to a system that b t, n, r o, you know, will definitely be

a sarah and oscar. we must say, you know, to make sure we realize where we could useful and where we need for the, especially when the infrastructure. i'm a there and we can speak with income and like you would solve these people. and you said earlier, you're quite right to, to be optimistic on solving world hunger if we had the money available. $330000000000.00. i believe you said the trouble is, well, food program this year and september 23. so that was a funded gap of 60 percent, the biggest short full and it's 60 year history. so why are we seeing a decline and funding at a time when we seems we need to get most okay, so we've got to be careful here about the numbers. because if you actually look at the amount of age that's gone to the world food program, in the last 2 years, it's actually increased and we looked at the numbers in the slows down. but the

amount of a going to wsp has increased. but the need has increased even more because is even greater needs than not filling the financing gap. hm. but it's not because there's not more money available. there is, especially for the humanitarian assistance. there is more money available. it's roughly doubled in the last 5 years. unfortunately, we comp say the same for the money going into the more long term investments to deal with the structural problems of hunger. that amount of assistance has been stagnating or slightly shrinking. right? but the problem is because of this piece chalks, the climate talks economic shocks, the conflict shocks, and particularly in the last 5 or 6 years, we see much greater needs. okay? and i really think that all of this solution and then i'll let you continue. but i think part of this solution is making sure that we better use that humanitarian

assistance to contribute to this longer development goal. because otherwise this bucket fits wsp means it's going to keep growing. because $11.00 thing i did the, one of the problems that we have, the highlights or the warnings that highlights is that we're entering a humanitarian doom loop, taking from the hungry to save the solving. how'd you stop that from happening? that i think laura, the only way to stop this thing being prepared for is again going back to say, how do you revitalize offer cause advert content and only on a small home the side, but also on putting them on the routes towards commercialization. and the african governments have to do their own pipes on the policy framework for doing that and attracting the private sector investments for, for that progression that, that, that could happen. then the rest of the assistance knocked off 3. and then david, referring to is something that asked us in the near to medium term,

because then if that's a stretch or a change in offer, cause advert contract is not happening. then we also can get a perpetual cycle here, where whenever they add these time slots there that will be more frequent, as well as these conflicts that we see that the ball frequent, obviously the continent, then we are stuck in dislike. the only way we have to get out of this is to say, how can advert countertop play and much more fund them into our room and get into space where it is less space or it is that a commercial at the can our support work? not only just some of the funds, but really creating jobs at a decent wage and be able to feed on their food and find out venue change in a, in a sustainable way. would be a with them to us. see that problem is offered god, be able to feed, to an extent to the world, and actually have sustainable agriculture as an improvement of the line. looking for right africans would be there. but i guess we're covering those point the remote areas which cannot be reached and you do need public infrastructure of roads

. what else applies to be in those areas for any ser residents to actually get in and the only people that can do that on the government does not have to do the hour on that part until those things this is done, then we are in the cycle where we coming going after every not to run last night. he outta assisting people because the innovation we're making now and i know different from the interventions that were making at 10 years ago. it's just not the scale and the frequency is changing. but we have to think deeply dentist, they help us as people in transitioning at more fundamentally and i think it's important we look into that. okay collin, i just want to go back to one of the, of the causes of hung up complex food being weaponized with seeing attend garza, we've seen it in ukraine. we've seen it in yemen. how do we prevent that happening? so i would say 1st,

it's very clear on the international humanitarian bull that it is that you are not allowed to use style of ation as a weapon. so it's not allowed, it's a violation of international humanitarian law. and that needs to stop where it is happening. but the other thing is, and again, on the international humanitarian law, you have to allow the humanitarian agencies to access the civilian population and provide them humanitarian the system. and here again, it's not a technical problem. we have tremendous furnace agencies, we've had decades of experience to know how to access people during conflict when there's an extreme weather event. so the only reason they wouldn't be allowed to access the people is because the, the conflicting parties are not allowing them to access. so i think that it's really important that this right to access to mandatory and assistance is upheld even in the context of conflict. ok. david money, if he was watching this program will be asking on an individual level,

what can i do? what couldn't we owe to ourselves? what would be around? so for that to so i, the 1st thing is really to, to main thing to be so long as i to put pressure on your government to do the throttle cation of resources. depending where you are, as if i say been here, african countries really need to, to a bit, talk about great sizing agriculture. the trunk development in terms of the whole investment varies that talk, you know, definitely more competitive where governments are taking the commitment to spend 10 percent of after break expenditure in terms of controlling our development. very shoot countries. but just i just went on to him to come to know of richardson and even the high income countries and mean that income countries is how much your government is going to have the opportunity to provide me qualities. for better aid, we smoke a we thought so thinking about what should be that the clinic are transparent. we

need to do because go to a map, i'm not going to replace them and we need them to do a number of extra them to my cookies. obviously, but then after, i mean, you may also my more responsive of choice in terms of consumption, providing to, to waste food and making sure that when you buy some product, older people can divide the chain in particular, you know, if you go for a cook above to make sure that the people on the other side of the planet producing these cool cool are, are leading income to be a bird to, to ever eastern size. and so we all contribute that a different flavor and what you're going to do out of my toes. but when we do as a community of the country and we're on demand, we still need the extra. okay, that we will have to leave our discussion that today many things to all guess david leveled one d lice the logo, the car on small them. and that is a show for this week. but remember, you can get in touch with us via x use the hash tag h a c t c. when you do so,

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