tv NEWSHOUR Al Jazeera December 18, 2023 7:00pm-8:01pm AST
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it took the ideas 70 days to reach the tunnels. it was the revealed yesterday. how long do you think it? it takes to delta you dismantle the threats of the tunnel and gaza? and if i may ask you separate the separate, the real thing was speaking about the, the day after the american keeps asking. is ryan how we see is the day after. so why do i tell them who is? well, we'll garza and the with the idea if be and go the throughout the entire next year . thank you very much. which one of those 12 questions do you want me to ask? i have more regarding the timeline. this is israel's operation. and i'm not here to dictate timelines or terms are support the to israel's right to defend itself is iron clad. as you've heard me say a number of times and that's not gonna change. it's critical. as i said earlier that
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have a mouse and not be able to threaten israel from guys or, or even threaten gotcha anymore. you know, that's an interest that we all share. it's a common interest with all of us. and so today we had great discussions about the status of the campaign about goals and objectives, and about how to reduce the harm to civilians in the battle space and to and the need to ensure a sustained flow of humanitarian assistance. entre gosh, you know, we can offer some insight based upon our own experience and fighting service groups . and certainly that enabled us to have great, great discussions. and we also have some great thoughts about how to transition from high intensity operations to lower intensity and more surgical operations. so
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we had a great discussions on all of those. those issues on 11 on we've been clear that we don't want to see this conflict white and then to a, a, a larger war or regional war. and, and we call upon hezbollah to make sure that they don't do things that would provoke a wider conflict. just as to the 1st, the 1st question, let me be more precise. it took us 70 days before we expose this on the to the public. it was discovered long period for that of them also. so, but we had the local fed, a lot of operations to be done inside, inside the tunnel before we expose it and the oil will take time. and the we
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can a show only one issue that eventually we will, we shall gauze the 1st of all to the story from us. second, to rescue the hostages. both of them, a very important equipment. this is a wall of the national determination, initial non resilience. and the way we present because we are fighting for the right values and fall survival in this region. as to the 2nd question, we understand how important these de eh, cooperation, and the international they're supposed to to stop the shock something something different in gaza. this is the reason we conduct this uh this
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uh the thoughts today together with the secretary austin and the job on mr. salt to feed them are those regarding the issues that we have to have to conduct in the, in gaza. and we know the tomas will not control garza, we know that we will have the freedom to eliminate any kind of threat in the future. and that will be no serious military to i to against these are phone guys, 2nd diesel. i would not control garza a scene any civilian way. we would conduct any, any needed eh, operation and meet the fault in order to secure the future. and we are building the routes for the non hostile partners in and out of sight.
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thank you, tara cost. we can also please stick to one question each, please. thank you. thank you, minister. go on back to 11 on what are you currently planning for ground operation in the north to as you said, fully secure that area from his bowl. a secretary austin, if that ground operation is launch, just to repeat my colleagues question, what role would us forces have in such case? and then, is it too dangerous right now, administer go on to open a 2nd front in the north. when you have troops committed in the south, and garza and my final one for secretary austin and another commercial vessel today was attacked in the red sea. and us 4 ships continue to intercept ballistic missiles and drones that are fired from who is the control gentleman, why hasn't the us struck back or conducted a counter strike like it has against similar iranian back to militants and iraq and
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syria? a, a. hi. yeah. i would like to reiterate what i said. i said the diplomacy is the preferred way. we uh, we are not looking for was but we have $70000.00 users id refugees and fees by shooting us every day is october 8. they off the home, us launch the wall, i guess these well, the for the one hand, we outpatient. and the we are looking for diplomacy solution that will make sure that his brother is not to attend his wiley, the civilians on the north, on communities directly. on the other hand, we operate cutting off of to any,
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any situation that is needed. and if something like that happened, we would know what to do and we will police a we, we are not looking for anything similar to that. and we hope this is paula. we understand that it's time to stop. uh, thanks. sorry. uh, regarding the hudy's these attacks or reckless a dangerous and a violate international law. and so we're taking an action to. ready build an international coalition to address this threat. and i would remind you that this is not just a us issue is this is an international problem and it deserves international response. and that's why i'm convening a meeting tomorrow. administer will meeting was federal ministers and a region and beyond to,
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to address this threat were that'll be a virtual meeting. and i look forward to that discussion and more important. i look forward to working together with a members of that of that group to address the threat in a meaningful way in the future. and we'll have more details on his own. but we're going to make sure that we're doing everything that we can to ensure the freedom of navigation in the area. the straight is a straight or pretty, pretty important, as we know. as you know, a large amount of commerce flows through their international commerce role sugar on a daily basis. yeah, no problem. if you're in a box and these are some posts good to see you again, mr. secretary, there's been a lot of discussion about getting israel's intent to reduce civilian casualties to match up with the results. general patrice famously said that sometimes the us,
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it's the take hits on a forced protection to win over hearts and minds. legitimacy. you're probably familiar that just recently about 10 is really soldiers died in one ambush. and a lot of people is what we're saying. if the is really defense forces or just bomb the area they wouldn't have died. is this the kind of thing? where does it have perfect solution? but sometimes united states may think that israel may need to take more hits the forest protection instead of being as aggressive with um, it's the air force and artillery. so there's, there, go on to the seo the united states and it's the most respectful way possible is trying to push israel on certain timelines on certain things about the day after um is it may be time that that uh yourself and the government need to tell israel, that even though we've had tremendous success as in the field, we may not actually control all of gods at the end of january. we may not get all of the hostages back at the end of january. some of these things may continue in the 3 to 9 months afterwards. the,
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what they cost allows demo the 3rd stage. so for the 1st part of the question, in terms of the nature of the strikes and the amount of collateral damage, i think uh let me begin by saying the protection of our troops is important to all of us administered a lot me all of us and and that is for most it um, but what we see happening is a combination of 2 things. the 1st thing is the complexity of, of this battle space. 3 dimensional battle space. very close the close spaces, dense population of people. and, and so that's, that makes it very, very difficult to, uh, to conduct any military operation above and beyond that we see that
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uh how much routinely uh, the use of civilians as, as shields uh beyond that they place their headquarters and, and their logistical sites near the protective shikes hospitals, a moss churches, you name it. and so that adds to the, to the complexity. and as you, as you heard the drake solve and say, it's a, provides an additional burden for 4 of the forces that are kind of prosecuting this fight. it requires a very professional force and that force has to learn each each step of the way. and we've seen that in and it was to go out. and i had a great conversation today about some of the things that they've learned and some of the techniques that they're, that they're uh you know, changing and as, as a conduct operations in the shop. so all of us learn and, and, and again, they were very professional for us going into this. but this is like an incredible
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complex battle space. and taking lessons learned from the north label, they applied some of those lessons in the shell and. and again, i'm sure that that will continue to happen as well. first of all, the discussions uh taskbar and frank and uh on the telephone with the local um from general austin. so i'm know they also, and they always gave me go to devices the full, we show everything and we consult the 2nd the on the, on the, on the other thing is we have a very meaningful to go successful. the h even meant and we're, we the tech, the thousands of theories including the senior commanders, but it's not the leadership, the many,
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the how much leadership is uh and ongoing the goal that they will be achieved, hopefully soon. but we paid 20 be respond of the goals of the war and the as we continue to operate in different let. busy is off intensity according to the situation that in the region, and i can tell you that the and soon we will be able to distinguish between different areas in, in the gaza. he never yeah, yeah, well we achieve our mission. we will be able to transition gradually to, to the next phase and stop working on bringing back look at population that to me is that it can be achieved maybe sooner than the last rather than in the salt. so we are dealing with all the different components and we will decide in the next day
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in the next future, you know, the future. no, i'm, i'm, i'm not, i'm not defining any, any, any regions. and this is an ongoing discussion, but i give you an idea about what we are discussing in the is why they and maybe to re establish mountain together with the americans most i can thank you most your games with a b, c news, a minister go on what are the benchmarks for moving to the next phase of this for does that mean that you have to take out the top from us leadership to be able to move on? and what specifically is keeping israel from moving to more precise and targeted operations against tomas and then secretary austin based on your experience in iraq and what you discussed today. what metrics should israel be using to know that it's the right time to transition from major combat operations and where the risk, particularly to civilian protection. and lastly,
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would you say that israel is on track for a strategic victory and gaza? so i'm going to go 1st some ways. ok. or by most i will a let the minister garage speak to uh the our minutes of their campaign. um and how they're going to conduct operations. but i will tell you that, you know, we all know that any military operation, any large scale military operation will have uh, phases to its campaign. and as you go from one phase to the next, you know, your, your stance shift a little bit, your activity shift a little bit because you're, you begin to focus on different things and what those things are. well, they'll be defined by, by,
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by the israelis. but as you transition from one phase to another, it doesn't mean that a to that, i mean that doesn't signal and, and to the operation it, it sometimes means that you're being more, more precise your bang are most or more focused on a specific targets that you're doing different things during that campaign or for example on, in, in one phase you may have a higher intensity fighting both the air and ground in another phase a, you may shift a little bit and then, and then provide more humanitarian assistance that while still focused on a discrete set of targets, again, i'm not saying that that's what, that's what they would be looking at going forward. i will let the is rarely use to find their, their, their campaign and the faces of that campaign for themselves. but, but in any operation like this, any, any campaign there will be phases in. and the most difficult part is as
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you, as you shift from one phase to the next, making sure that you have everything accounted for and you get it right. so that's, that's a, that's, that requires detail planning and very thoughtful planning. and sir, what do you think you eh, to the goals, the goals for the wall? that means that the, by the end of the wall, as long as it takes, we need to make sure that we have all the just back that we eliminate the how most abilities and that's include the swine come us military capability and its ability to call them in, in the gaza and the type of southern problem at those, including the amount of the tale and, and by talking is that we, we need to dismantle and the chain of command and, and the supreme and media to really those shape and so full. and so on the phases
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of the technique and which is part of the plan that we have to, to deploy in the, in the area in order to achieve our goals. and the secretary austin said this is only the, the way that we shape all plan in order to achieve the goals and the as a typing in the bubble feed, the sequences are changing. you change your thoughts and you do something different in a different phase. and the intensity in the 1st phase is, is given, bought in, in the other phases, we will cost, it's a toss out the issue for, for his phones that in gauging and, and detecting the supreme leadership of hamas and all those. so. busy and all and there is no. busy and there is not nowhere a clock that is wanting and we have to have to be south and day,
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but we need to get to a different performance as on the ground before we move to the state to the next phase. and i believe that we will find the proper time to do so. and the most important issue, as i mentioned, the beginning. yeah we, we, we, we prevent, we will dismiss at the home, us otherwise not be able to exist and leave in the way we want to live in this region because there is a price to the task and they need to know that if they cute or kidnapped 1500 people including kids and women. this is data from us. thank you very much everyone. ok, so you were just listening to our press conference being held to tell the view of that as the us defense secretary lloyd austin, standing alongside. there's really defense minister you of the long they were both addressing the media in tel aviv. here's some of what the secretary of defense,
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the us sector and the funds have to say. he did say that we will not impose conditions or time tables related to the is really war on guys out on the issue of the threat that's coming from the red sea, according to them, it's a threat. the us defense secretary said that we are building a coalition to address that threats from the red sea. and one more issue that was raised in that press conference is, has been the 11 on the us defense secretary, as well as these really defense minister saying that's what they call up since button and off to provoke a wider conflict. so those were some of the sort of overarching messages that came out of that press conference last spring and bernard smith, he's joining us now from the v. so bernard, let's just 1st start with the military campaign. israel's war on gaza, what was said in relation to that and um, you know, the us defense x ray as well as the defense minister, we're saying that they will transition into an next phase. what is that?
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and what more did they say as well? there's obviously been a lot of told before this that there is a american ican us, us so you can us to see israel transition to a less intense phase of the war. busy to because of a high, very, very high number of civilian casualties is that israel will, is exacting. i'm, is it a lot of pressure on israel from the us, um, from outside to reduce the number of cities civilian casualties. so lloyd austin began these press conference really by saying that being of course, fully packing israel by being heavily critical of how mass calling it. so one of the worst atrocities of mountain terrorism. what, how much data on october the 7th. but then he went on to say the democracy is a stronger when we uphold the laws of war, and he said we will continue to ensure the protection of civilians. so there was,
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there was no all sort of a a deadline. but there was no suggestion of a time scale of when israel should start reducing or changing its focus. but the weather indications that is riley is looking in that direction. and even a gland himself said that we will continue to operate at different levels of intensity . so the 1st hint that the things may change, but no indication of any timeline to presume it, because these rarely in the americans don't want to give any timeline away to the enemy, but clear emphasis that the us support israel in this bottle and burner there were also some messages to the cruces and young men as well as, as af, has been the in lebanon. and in fact, let me add on to the apologies burner, but iran as well. yeah. to yeah, well the, there is a risk or there's or us fear of this conflict spreading. why the in the region
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because of the iran box on groups? not just and 1111 on, but in syria. i didn't. yeah. man as well. and on the 11 and he was asked if the go on was asked if it's rarely is planning to invade a southern lemme lab and on to push has bola back. he said there is no plans to do that, but we have $70000.00 internal refugees. he's referring to these riley's displaced from the homes along the northern border along the border with lebanon, and he wants them to be able to go home. so he says, we're waiting for a diplomatic solution, but they call wait a long time. i don't know who stays on the who is the attacks on shipping going through the red sea and heading up the suicide canals. the us a sad, as we mentioned before, that is exploring an option for a regional and international falls of maritime protection for us in the red sea that will offer protection to shipping. so it can, because a lot of big shipping companies are diverting that ships down around the ask
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because look around the horn of africa, it costs a lot of money and the delay shipping a lot. there is reluctance that it's going to be a challenge to get the gulf states and egypt and jordan to back this with the americans bumped into a bucket, but you have all ready, the amorites, moratti's and the saudis, looking to see all the secure piece deals with the with the who stays in in yemen, so he's going to be challenging for them. the us once that back. all right, thank you for and as for, for that update from telling me what's i'm bringing, i'll just say we're a senior political analyst model on the side of milan. so just tell me what stood out for you from that press conference before we drill down into some of the details. yeah, i mean, of course, every thing been said that we've been subjected to more than half an hour to propaganda. basically from 2 officials, there is no time to answer each and every cliche sound bites. and the buyer of the, you know, lies uh told about palestine about guys um, but uh,
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i would dispute it into what i now jump done us for these. that's my territory, but before i get that, just let me just say that there's absolutely nothing new. what we heard today, nothing 0 zilch, not the nothing new or set, then this back office. basically the 2nd of defense game and he's going to leave without letting us at least know that he had any influence whatsoever that he used . i need leverage whatsoever with these writers. so as far as we are concerned, there's nothing you know, in the old world, i could just tell my eyes as far away there's that a continue was then when i say sion of how much. right, i mean there's not, don't even stop and, and think about what, how much was able to withstand the incredible bombing. how could they able to resist the israeli troops? why were they able to be so such costs for so long?
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nothing about that. only that how much is there to can jews and destroy the jewish state? we all know that how much was created by deal. i mean on the patient as a product is the commission that is meant to resist the occupation. and how much just a couple of days ago were saying that they are looking forward for a space on the west bank and gaza and east jerusalem. just until 2 days ago, one of the leaders was talking about that, but none of that just mentioned sonya but demonizing them as an enemy that has to be designated. the 2nd thing which is even more disturbing is the day and when i say sion of the prostate, i mean look at the, i don't stop talking about what happened. october 7, nothing about what happened since october 7th. so even if you would want to understand why these really defense minister might do that, why is the secretary of defense of the united states incapable of expressing
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anything about what's happened to punish opinions? he can just address the fact that 7000 children died. that 20000 people have died, that there are tens of thousands of casualties that these are, these have destroyed the entire infrastructure of gaza. nothing. fulton. and i thought of the human eye is ation of the fetish thing and see the double stunted. but the inspection takes us a double sided one. secretary austin talks about ukraine. he talks non stop about why collective punishment is all crime. why is the bombardment of, of, of residential buildings in hot gave is or crime. but the destruction of it has a bunch of good things and goes out nothing the the collective punishment. so guy is nothing he talks about about human shields. really, always spoken about the human she 70 days later when we know that the man standing next to it, mr. cologne was clear from the very beginning that they wouldn't be collective
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punishment that the palestinians would it be denied food, fuel, electricity, etc. right? because the human animals and last but not least has the issue of that, the buckle. there is not a condition that is a good knock at you if it's objective, despite the incredible suffering that it still has months to go, which would be completely unacceptable to the international community and that the united states. and is it i that i selected the stand alone today? it's not that have mass versus the world today. this is there on the united states, but let me ask you this and how does this fit into what we also heard from the defense x 3, announcing that he's planning on building a coalition to address the threat that's coming from a court. the threat according to him, from, from the whole fees and the red sea. ok. so now let's move to the does it why the region right? you read been american press right today. that'd be united states as having
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a pen bottles pen. incredible challenge to get the 7 days the am. all right, these and the educational board. then after the end and capable of today unable anyway, thus far to mount adding a regional coalition because no one wants to step in. i asked of the warden. yeah. bed. right, and in light of the general side in gaza, to join hands with the united states, let alone these read in order to pick on anyone and that he should that's what to he felt to us or the question, why isn't there just one thing? can you hear me be fair? i mean, that all actually ballistic this solves and drones and whatever being shot and inverters that extra is out of them. and i might just not respond. i might as also not doing something very important. we haven't paid attention to it yet. you know, america listed or, or, or cut out. uh or, i mean what, what's the word i lifted the uh, the one piece from the us list of stairs. mm hm. it's no longer concerned that if
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there is some issue but days into these operations and, and your address is you have to put the house is back on the federalist list. why? there's a major challenge going on. and i think the house, he's basically, you know, i mean, think what we may about their role in the amount and why they shouldn't be a willing and young man and so on, so forth. but they really pulled the carpet for the month of united states and these red in their continuous persistent attacks on shipping. and that i'd say basically becoming a real actor in this issue. unfortunately, the united states to deal with them plead with them to stop what they're doing, but they are not an interaction that acts up in this point in time. what the half of what the whole thing is are saying is open the humanitarian aid to guys. stop the order and goes on. we want to stop what we're doing. so they're not just going on some kind of a, you know, the ballistics pre and that i'd see right there actually very, if i get paid for
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a very particular object. what about the, the, what seems to be threats to live in on a gun? not new. we've heard this from is really officials before you of go on saying that they'd like a political solution when it comes to a husband. now now we know what the political solution is according to is really once the house has been left to go north of the tiny river, which as well as says, that's not going to happen. so how do you see that developing? well, as you said, the beginning of your question, there is nothing new, right? we've heard these lines before. i think they are stuck. so as you said, also in your question that has one that says what if there's a whole new reality now, right? and that what is that just doing what there's what it has been do it is not acceptable to us liberties and we would not be that conflicts and we will not accept that. it says basically in so many words as long as you guys are today, better tomorrow, right? and ultimate them of such what about the acceptable to has been the why should 11
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on be at the mercy of is there a and what it wants to apply next? so has one also has a responsive that towards its own a allies to where it is only citizens towards its own country. and so i think they are also stuck there. and when secretary lloyd was passed, would you join in, were you not donating? why the, how did you send these cost cutters in the 1st place? i asked if they don't have answers today to the challenges that they've created themselves. and just a quick one as to the entire thing, right? this whole thing started with occupation professionals level of that, 82. and that's what has been that was created occupation of palestine. the professionals always back in does. that's what, how much is great and we are not talking about why these are resistance movement. especially talking about them as fetters movements, you know, i, myself will not justify an act of terrorism. i know that typically speaking, i would say how mazda and has black cavity dentist effects like is, or it is
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a state sponsored terrorism. it actually does everything that you start or as the congressional but there's other states, and these are resistance movements. that's what the, or the word created on the occupation. they are resisting occupation. and the end game is the end of the patient. and if they have something done at the amongst themselves in the region, that's the right, that's the duty of responsibility. but the 2nd or 3rd of the 2nd, the defense of the united states, like the minister of a defensive is right, refused to recognize the simple fact they are comparing now with their notes about how to deal with guys with having us on has follow. but really discount, think the fact or we all know around the world that 2nd i think is almost as experience. long experience is in the hawk. i wasn't occupied country by the united states and the full street text that was an illegal war,
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a war of choice against the walk. so let's not forget that this is not just some kind of an academic exercise. lloyd austin built his expertise, i guess what people's better than i thought, occupying a country. and then there was that assistance i guess american occupation of iraq. we have the same situation and gaza. it's an occupied territory and that assistance groups are once again quarters for existing that occupies right. know how much is in game is not getting to know how much is in game is liberating by this time the but i think deadlines to have a state according to them next to is are. and that should be concerned that the legitimate, the right of defense is red. on the other hand, like the united states, we have involved in wars and legal boards. and what we haven't got is a, is an illegal occupation and legal siege that should and not, that is, this is good for you to their citizens. go to adjust their occupier. all right,
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thank you so much. my one beside the at least 200 palestinians have been killed and is really re air raids across the gaza strip on hospitals of again come under attack. this is the scene at the gates of friendship out hospital in northern garza where dead bodies lay scattered outside the facility. dozens of palestinians have been killed and many more wounded . officer repeated showing by is really forces stationed around that area. and there has been continuous shooting near of should fall as well. meanwhile, a 12 year old girl has been killed and then there's really a talk from northside hospital. that's the fun, eunice. then you have almost died when a shell hit the pediatric board, where she and several other children were sheltering. she had already lost her family and her leg in a mis all attack on their house. last month she spoke to algebra 0. she told us
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about her hopes and her dreams going in the head of an yeah, i hope to be a doctor to help people. you know, my life is changing. they have gone. we are alone now without them. i was connected to this life because i was very much connected to my mother's father and siblings who died, but i must continue despite the fact that i will never forget them all to zeros. well enough to work, visited the na sort of medical complex in hon. eunice for leprosy and with that, that fee, which i'm not most of it off with this obstetrics and gynecology department, enough sort of medical complex that has been targeted and penetrated by as rarely. shells, as you can see on that bad was a girl who had her leg amputated after an attack in another area. any fun, eunice, the shell hit her directly in her head and killed her immediately that it did not explode. and if it had on it, it would have caused
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a real massacre here. this is the 2nd time the hospital has been hit by a shout that didn't explode of the 1st bell early this morning. in one of the hospitals, courtyards were displaced. people shelter in a large number of tents and 2 people were injured. you are welcome at the some upfront, outside of the, this is the children section. the children were sleeping in their places, including a little girl don't. yeah. the shell penetrated the ceiling and directly hit her. parts of her head and blood are splattered on the wall. as you can see, it's a brutal crime. this little girl had her legs amputated and her family were killed when their house was bound not long ago. finally, she lost her life. the enemy killed donya and killed all her hopes of the enemy didn't send us any warning or evacuation order. the enemy didn't say anything before shelling or departments. it's a message to us that we will always be under the threat of being shelled and bombarded any time any day. donia and the other innocent children did nothing to be
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killed. the civilian displaced people in these tents did nothing to be attacked and killed and get injured. israel's military might be intent on committing other massacres and this hospital and knocking out this health institution doesn't want any medical service to be offered to our dead and wounded people in the entire gaza strip. then run a scenario. it is almost the same old scenario used previously by the israeli occupation forces it all she for medical complex. the same method has been used before at the obstetrics and gynecology department in all she for medical complex and prior to putting the whole complex under a siege. could this be the start of imposing a total seas on the hospital before storming in the coming few hours and days? give us the answer. well, it will just be a huge amount of sort of the big. i will now get an update from tara about zoom. todd is joining us from girlfriend southern guys. i thought it as we've been
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hearing another bloody day. af is really a tax on hospitals as well as across southern gaza, including fine units where you are, bring us up to speed with what's happened in the past few hours. yes uh the attacks during the last few hours did not stop and it was completely unrelenting, except for areas on, in particular in the north and in the southern parts of gauze i'll work on you in a city had been us be under, is really intense bombing we're talking about the eastern areas of con eunice, which i completely been on there is very intense a shooting for. busy since the beginning of this day, as during the last hour, they had been intensifying the military attacks on the con you, in a square, a residential building had been a completely flat, sends on, according to medical sources, the brought us new ministry pills, managed to evacuate a number of palestinian dead bodies in the eastern areas. full canyon is also
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making different coordinations in order to reach this area, which gives a very, a clear indication that the situation of the eastern areas is completely risky and whole rustic as confrontations on the ground that continue the attacks as well continued into another parts of gauze was driven in particular during the last hour, a number of civil defense workers have been targeted by the is really a military in the valley refuge account, a just close to them. and he's hospital in dahlia, which had been under is very intense, plumbing since the beginning of this round to finding. now these attacks continued as the number of palestinians who have been killed has been a wrong thing to move the 19700 palestinians according to the palestinian minister pills with more than 50000 others who have been also wounds that thought. and of course, you know this number, and now that stands up more than 19000 palestinians who have been killed. could be
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an underestimate with many people who are still trapped under the rubble. and with which civil services just simply cannot reach them because of the devastation. yes, absolutely, that's true. we are talking about thousands of palestinians who have been still missing under the russells, due to 2 main reasons. the lack of the equipment a for the civil defense cruise to accelerate the process of pulling the victims from under the russell's, the due to the is very intense funding. that's in the majority of cases of prevent this civil defense teams to reach the areas of target things and they were forced to withdrew and to attend back again to that basis. now it's important to say that palestinians have written down the names of the victims on the ruffles of the destroyed houses. just to give up please sign and reference for the civil defense deemed that there are still people on the directors of the destroyed houses. and
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this is completely her roof exceeds that you know, that they are victims still under the rustles in this area. and you are no longer able to evacuate them. and this is a clearly happens to the family of our clique moment disrupts who have been hit until it gets it in a value refuge account. and they have been till now under the rustles, without having any efforts for rescuing and due to the lack of equipment and due to the is really relentless plumbing in the area. okay, thank you. thought it. thank you for that update. the is really army says about 48 soldiers have been injured in garza in the past 24 hours. one of them in serious condition, how much is military doing has also released new video. so and some of the fighting near the northern city, a big not yeah. how mass fighters are seen striking is really tanks and jeeps with empty tank. missiles that the head of the c i a is needing category and is really officials to discuss the possible release of more is really captive held in gaza.
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bill barnes held broker a previous deal between israel and him. us for lead to more than a 100 people being freed. our white house correspondent, kimberly how good is running us in washington dc to tell us what more we're learning about this meeting and what sort of sticking points and challenges could there be? yeah. then there are some sticking points and challenges compared to the temporary cease fire that occurred last time that allowed for in the about a week about a 105 captives to be released. and there's the goal in these discussions that are taking place in warsaw between the director and the head of my side as well as the contrary. prime minister is to try and get another interruption. it's finding that would allow for another exchange of captives for palestinian prisoners and this really jails. but the stumbling blocks seem to be that there is
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a concern on the part of from us that there is simply not going to be any sort of agreement with israel. that would be acceptable to them, namely, what they're looking to see is to have more palestinian prisoners released this time. then israel is willing to consent to add israel, for its part is not willing to give up any of the female captives or rather, her mazda is, aren't willing to give up any of the captors because they say they are not, in fact, uh, and just being held, but there are fact is really soldiers. and so there are some differences in opinion about their identities. so there is a stumbling block there. there's also some walk in that there is this feeling that this can only occur with an interruption and fighting. and israel says that it will not do that. so there are some really big hurdles but need to be overcome. and the reason that the ca director is involved in this is because the scales were utilized
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last time. there's this feeling that they can be utilized once again. so this is something that is going to take some time. the reasons as a category prime minister is involved, of course, is the israel and the united states do not have direct contact or any sort of communication with him us. and that is where the guitar is come in. they are facilitating that. the hope is that they will be successful in order to achieve this, but as you point out, there are some very big hurdles. it could take some time. all right, thank you. kimberly, for that updates from the white house. meanwhile, the un security council is expected to vote on a new resolution calling for an urgent and sustainable ceasefire in garzo. this comes days after the un general assembly passed a non binding resolution calling for a humanitarian ceasefire. there is a growing international pressure on israel to stop killing civilians in the strip. more than 19000 people had been killed in gauze us since israel began it's war in
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october. we have gabriel alonzo. he's joining us live from the un headquarters in new york to tell us whether you are hearing how this vote is going to go and, and what's in that draft resolution to yeah, we believe that this vote could happen as early as about 5 pm local time here in new york, that's about 2200 g m t. this is a draft resolution that has been written up by the united arab emirates as a member of the security council. and what we believe is in this resolution is primarily association of hostilities to allow a unhindered access of humanitarian aid in 2 guys from land seer air. and this is a, a draft resolution. it's really trying to bring to bear the aid to get into guys and also stop the fighting. so that aid can be safely
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delivered to those who need it. the most. the big question is, what the united states vote for. something like this. of course, united states has veto power. one of the 5 permanent members in the past the us is either vetoed or said they would not vote for anything that was a cessation of hostilities because essentially that's a cease fire united states. so that would, that's the only benefits from us. so there's some last minute negotiations taking place. we believe to see if they can get some sort of language in a final draft that can be voted upon. perhaps later on monday that the us could find acceptable. that will be key there. how do they deal with that issue of ceasefire? because that's something at least in the past. the us would not agree to write. okay, thank you, gabriel. you'll keep us across the story, thanks for the time being uh we have with us. so somebody counts as a professor public policy. it's kind of been sunday for university. joining us here in so has a lots of talk about 1st. let's start with that you and vote at the security
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council. any reason to believe that the us would be voting for a cease fire this time around if that's what's put in the resolution. as gabriel was just saying, there's still lots of negotiations going on us to the the, the for means that go into that resolution. i doubted given what we had from lloyd austin earlier today, i think it would be difficult for them to vote for a cease fire a. but it's, you know, the you and has got to continue in motion and it has kept everybody very busy in terms of, you know, for me, i take efforts, but i don't think the us would allow that vote us. yeah. particularly as you're saying, i mean we just heard lloyd austin and tell aviv once again a bit displaying the us as a to most support to israel. i mean, this is nothing new. we hear this and press conference after press conference with the is really is on the americans. but what do you make of his comments when he said that we will not impose conditions or time tables related to the is really one
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gods. but because there was some talk recently that the us was saying, you'll have to finish this quickly. israel was saying this could take us a few months now, lloyd austin saying, we're not here to impose time tables to. well i think what they say privately is probably different from what they say in, in a press conference like this one. it's a bit like when you want to be in your um, supported child under control, but without really, you know, human alleging hamel, however, you know, publicly, i think the u. s. message is slightly different in private, the many deadlines. one of them is coming very soon this christmas when, when by then really stomach more palestinian blood over christmas holidays. i don't think so. i think he would do his best to try and reduce the number of casualties as much as possible. and implicitly, this is what the minister of defense has promised to the secretary of state
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secretary that they will be more careful moving forward. they would be more focused . he talked about the possibility of distinguishing for the 1st time distinguishing between areas within the gaza strip. that civilians may be moved back to some secured zones and so on. so i think practically that must have discussed a lot more than what both of them expressed in this by this press conference. what, what could have been discussed that's, that's different to what we heard. and probably, well 1st i think in terms of the way is where i was going about it. and the idea that these radius can learn from america's tactics and countering terrorism is, is, is practically a joke, really, because by then on his 1st visit to israel said, don't do our mistakes. so their, their strategy was not really good in the 1st place. and they will probably be tending those writings. uh, you know, we've made this mistake before. we know that can you see if it is not going to help?
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if anything is gonna aggravate the situation, make it worse for you and so on. so the that i think is the civilian casualties, scale and intensity, and the compression that these rate is doing in terms of population, closer and closer to the border of israel. these are, these is that they will be warning them against because soon they will lose the support and the, even the mutual support has now been given by egypt, by keeping quiet about it, people will move. and as the sex ratio of states said, they're not looking for grades or confrontation in the region including where they are on. so the only thing they can do is really to reduce the level of violence at this stage. what about um the, the ongoing, reportedly ongoing talks to free more if the is really captives from guys that we understand that the c i, a director bill burns, is meeting with israel's massage chief in europe as a,
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as well as the categories this whole challenging or are these talks this time around going to be versus the 1st time where we saw that temporary ceasefire happened? well, i think it's going to be that much more difficult. why the remaining? uh hostages, mostly ministry. the about $228.00. how much as a vendor released the all the women and children that are holding. and if you recall the reason why the last round collapse is because it's very, i wanted to pause. i'll try to pass some of the female soldiers under the baton. they're all for the humidity of the case. and now the defense ministers also said the same thing, more or less. he said, this is a humanitarian case, 128 and he questioned them to they mentioned a situation in guys which influence is more than 2000000 people. so they're trying to pass it as a humanitarian issue, which obviously it's not this,
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of the soldiers that for decades forth against how much the people who are acting as the jailers in the open air prison of guys a for how mouse as a very prize, the game they have to get something concrete out of it. and aside from releasing high volume prisoners from these rated prisons, they must now have in mind ending the war because their previous experience, when they negotiated for the pause, show them that as well is capable to come back and hit as hard as it did in the past many and the list i'm me included, we sold as raised will find is much more difficult to come back with the same level of discriminant item, the intense and a yes, intense funding. but they did all the expectations they were as ruthless. they killed as many of the same sorts of range of publishing and civilians without really caring about international you intended or anything else. so this must be on the minds of how mice,
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what day and by releasing these soldiers lose the loss cod in that hon. to and then the x rays was still determined to go off to them. and what's really drew my attention is the sentence thing when you shoot me. and which of the missile defense concluded has been, she said, we have to in, otherwise we cannot exist in this region. so something much bigger is playing on the minds of those right. these, they now understand the data at, for an entity in this region to mean we cannot exist in this region. it's a very strong statement from, from him to make. okay, thank you so much. still talking about now in the, in the south of gaza, families of displaced palestinians are struggling to find food for their newborns and crucial items like diapers and milk have become so expensive or even impossible to find. if this i'm going food reports, these babies have been born into war and little marion's family fears for her
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future. displace twice mother and grandmother moved to dasa after as well to people to evacuate. hon eunice. you know, okay, i'm how many i'm heading over to that. it says we came to these tents here while she was still in newport. she was born into my home here in russia we had deprived of everything. and this is the, she's seen up the world yet. and then a few weeks old and already struck by tragedy to of little marianne's grand parents have been to her mother isn't shock, my brother scanner and don't have the parents have no one lined it was over sick. the mother was incomplete short and when she found his off keeping the one my life and losing her family. the other. how is this possible i haven't received of marianne is having to survive with little protection except for these blankets and her grandmother's arms. many displaced children in southern, garda,
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spend their formative weeks laying in cold, damp tents. they lack food and clothes. so diapers, milk, and even water. hard to come by. such a as it can see, these babies don't have shelter, they were not flushed since the day they were born. they are a month old now and if not being based that yet, do you see the space they are living in? nearly 8000 children has been killed since the start of israel's air and ground defensive on garza. the world health organization is warning of high risks of diseases like jaundice and diarrhea. but they are only a few functional hospitals in the south of garza. doctors their struggle to meet the needs of pregnant women and newborns. this mother is concerned for her baby totally me sort of fuck the headset and because the situation is extremely
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difficult, how do we don't eat enough? so she's not getting brushing now. and the baby gets kid whenever there are extracts. she wakes up and cries all the time to to shake smooth. for a little marion and a little totally, the future looks terrifying and unforgiving. their families can only pray for a clean room to be done. and a safe place to raise them. if this i'm getting food, i'll just it is really forces of stepped up. raids across the occupied westbank from a lot to bethlehem knob blues. they've killed dozens of palestinians including children since the start of the war. there's really military, it has also reportedly prevented ambulances from reaching the injured a. just a reminder of what we've been covering for you this hour is what the us defense secretary has. how talks with is really leaders speaking earlier at
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a press conference until the v. lloyd austin reiterated the u. s. a supports for israel, and he also announced the launch of a maritime coalition to respond to ongoing attacks by the full of these in the red sea. we'll take a short break, and we'll be back in just a moment with more news on also 0, the interview on my what do you, what that will be at that the spend a minute more minutes. what else do you need is i did. i was open at it's about 80 pounds. that's fine. so let me just then let me uh, would you like another mentioned book a say i don't think this,
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