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calls to epstein who died in prison. some of epstein associates had been accused of being involved in his exploitation of minus a 131. people have been killed in houses, reduced to rubble, often as quaking china, more than 700 people were injured. and many left outside and freezing temperatures and guns too, and seeing high provinces emergency workers a searching for the missing and collapse buildings the best, the risk of the land slides. chinese media say the magnitude $6.00 as quake struck at midnight on monday damaging roads and destroying power and communication lines. katrina, you've sent this update from badging. the government says dozens have been killed in hundreds injured in this magnitude 6.2 us like that struck on monday and at the center was gone through problems and usually shun county where the majority of the state policies took place. now the authorities say that emergency release services in that area has pretty much diseases. our electricity has been restored and that
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turning their attention now to neighboring things like proteins and other mounts in this remote region, that was also very much affected. now about 60 people are still missing that specifically from the village called didn't, and village including one pregnant woman, the suspect is to be trapped on the mud slides on these most of my slides, which triggered by the quick on monday, they're about 3 meters deep reportedly and the government is very precarious in tacitly working to try to excavate the much slides using heavy machinery working as quickly as they can. but this operation has been handed like freezing temperatures during the day. it's about minus 4 degrees celsius in thing high that drops to the minus 12 degrees in the evening. and so these teams are working as quickly as they can. and also because of the weather, piracy also is getting these thousands of people have been displaced by these uptake scores in shanghai and gone through proven into some sort of permanent shelter. the government has thousands of tens for these people. 4700 comes were
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destroyed by this quake. these tense has electric, he saying they've been given blankets one suit. however, this is a very much a temporary solution until some sort of permanent refuge is found for the people. due to these reasons with the conditions for treating you out 0 agent. the cleaning and president says he's confident that the united states and other western countries will continue to support you, crane, and his war against russia. speaking during an end to view a news conference, but not to me, is it. lensky also suggested that ukraine could mobilize 500000 more people in order to fight on rush. it announced on tuesday. they planned to increase the size of it. so me to 1500000 people. that's it for me. as always, all websites. i'll just say we're a dot com. it has all the lights us on all of our top stories. i'll be back with more of the top of the next style, but right now it's time for our friends. the
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. this is will weeks of to run shall rain has done to towns, villages, and farm land on the banks of the tunnel river. more than a 170000 people have been forced from their homes by floods, hearing kenya from the heavy call to you can really get a sense of the scale of these plots and thousands of farms. the beans have managed crops destroyed, and this comes off the back of one of the grounds in that region in about 12 feet. yes, scientists say the climatic trends can only be stopped by a global reduction in common emissions. many people here can barely afford fossil fuels, but they pay the highest price. as united states continues to back, israel's war on gaza, which for what's behind this unequivocal support and ask whether it is level of hopefully it plays a part in u. s. foreign policy. that conversation is coming up for the 1st. israel continues incidentally assault on gaza and increases refreshing in the west bank. one of the
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hopes for peace last, the former negotiator for the palestinian liberation organization and a former minister for the past meet us already. this week's headliner, janessa, the advantage that we joined just from the algae 0 bureau in ramallah senate and thank you so much for joining us on upfront. thank you, mark, it's good to be with you. israel was a saw on guys, a continues to cause mass devastation and a mounting humanitarian crisis. in fact, the world food programs deputy director said that 9 out of 10 people in dies that are not eating every day. and a half half are starving. but last week, the united states stood alone and vetoed a un security council resolution. they called for humanitarian cease fire. despite overwhelming support for it by other countries, the u. s. deputy ambassador to the united nations told the counsel that the veto
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was against a quote em balanced resolution that was divorced from reality. also saying that it would not move quote, the needle forward on the ground in any concrete way. what is your reaction to that? well, i don't know whether i can take that seriously or not. it's actually, it's busted us. you can't imagine that the grown intelligence to human being can say these things with a straight face. if anybody is the voice comedy, ality, it's the us administration. it does by then and blinking, and those folks people who are affecting such hollow, meaningless, ridiculous terms, that, that exposing their own loss of contact with reality. if you cannot see the 10s of thousands of people killed on, does it happen or a, a wounded, or a starving, or suffering from heart effect diseases or children who have all sorts of digestive
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problems because they're thinking sea water or contaminated water. the odd people who are going not knowing where they are not knowing why that family's. uh, it's incredible. the dimensions wrapped up portions of the heart of that is unfolding before our eyes. unconscionable, unfathomable, i can tell you, we cannot even, you know, think of all these things at once. and yet you have these people sitting there nicely talking about giving. is there any more time voting, i guess the ceasefire for heaven's sake as cease fire? stop killing, innocent civilians, stop killing men, women and children stop obliterating hard families, stop destroying everything that can sustain and maintain life, whether it's about homes, neighborhoods, infrastructure, walter bakeries, hospitals, schools, universities, everything is being distorted, system ethically and with lead. and you sit back and talk about this being diverse,
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strongly ality. what happened to, i mean, really, that is something quite that's astounding. in the way they last patched, whether he left the absolutely and they lost, that's with a new sense of decency or morality. how isolated is the united states at this point? uh, in this position, i asked that because this week, uh, the you, in general assembly voted on a resolution calling for full and immediate cease fire. it passed with $153.00 boats and the international community changed it's, it's disposition to this. yes, yes, clearly there are no 2 ways about it. the one to public opinion is shifting kansas and that was states, even though so at the beginning, you know, jumped with the american instance position of my lining that police didn't use. and declaring that we are liars, always with the feathers or whatever. uh now is the beginning to see the ality as
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it is, and at least some of them are motivated by a sense of humanity and decency by saying no, this extra stop. now the u. s. the ppo is the ceasefire consistently. it's not the 1st time if use this is, i mean they called for what they said then put a deposit is to bring in some food, 8 some a aide and then to resume. this is absolutely ridiculous. this is in human. you're of course, in the west bank, you're remotely right now again from dallas. is it a bureau? uh, and the tensions have been a consistent issue in the west bank. however, human rights watch noted, a substantial increase in the number of palestinians who have been arrested by his really authority since october 7th. within 3000 people including miners had been arrested or placed under administrative detention since then. which brings the total number of palestinians in prison to more than $7000.00 in your view. what is the reason behind this increase?
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well actually since this year since the, this, the extremist faces dry clean coalition. and as i took over, they have been escalating, not just and the land saft, not just in house demolitions and so on, but the, invades and villages and towns and getting out in full estimate cleansing in the west bank. and as you would actually said, the of hundreds of miles, thousands of course, of the palestinians who have been detained under the cologne in a administrative detention system in which people are detained without evidence without ty and without the heating without charges, without any kind of defense so it is a way of exercising control. it's a way of, again, getting more than more cards in this game that the playing and, or the to say, well look, we've exchanged one for one or whatever. they have now close to 8000 prisoners and,
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and or the 10 isn't, is a new jays and they want to use them for the exchange where they could have prevented this escalation. um, this hotter that we're going by agreeing for the exchange of prisoners hostages, or they sent me is by saying ok, this statement all 4 on the lease of captives. we weren't really sure captives what i'm thinking about the consequences of these conditions in the life of any vision of future negotiations, you're talking about thousands of people in prison. you're talking about 18000 people did. according to guys as health administrators, since october 7th, as you mentioned, lots of stuff happened before october 7th that we also have to take seriously in light of hunger, in light of incarceration, in light of mass, depth and light of all of this stuff. how do you think about future negotiations with israel? what's the calculus moving forward now? what's possible?
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i think talking about negotiation is really not the only unrealistic, if there's really and send it to the suffering and pain of people from the beginning. we kept talking about, you know, not being able to have negotiations and the situation of a symmetry that is, that the lack of balance and occupied people cannot negotiate with that occupier. so we kept telling people's back because the occupying policy has an influence and has followed over the occupied to have no dice whatsoever. so you cannot ask a people on the occupations to ask that occupied for permission to be for the not only don't they want us to be free as a separate colonial system. they want to take our land without the people, and they want to maintain the system of, of cont, the wilful infliction of pain and know nothing yet on his government. they say this openly, that can be no negotiations. that can be no palestinian state,
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no sovereignty. we do not accept any of these fellas, didn't lead those. whether that, how about us or fedex or anybody is now this thing, something very serious, talking about the palestinian police and security as being also the enemy. so that pretty bad things advance for an escalation and the west back. and of course they have totally destroyed guys. so who's going to the negotiate what with whom? i think it's the responsibility of the international community and the cabinets and the siege of guys on the west bank the and the occupation. and then you can talk about peace based on international law. and the recognition of palestinian died as equally people who deserves. as i said, freedom, that dignity is that back to self determination and not as 2nd dose of class citizens in apartheid state that is trying to superimpose because they took his hand on all of his started competitors time. it's not going to work and to talk
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about peace negotiations is just upset about this because of the moment you talk about the world community watching. all of this happened over. busy last few years, it's been shown that youth opinion, particularly the west, has shifted toward a more sympathetic view of palestine. even the former is really prime minister a who, but are express concern over this change you to all political quote, listen to the public tone. we are losing public opinion in europe. are you seeing that shift? and does that give you any hope for a different kind of future and a different kind of political reality to absolutely, because for decades for years is it, i have the 40 sway the 40 power to shape public this course. it had its own a bunch of stuff. again, the machines, it has its own influence, especially in mainstream media and, and, and it's really not active and is
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a new version was constantly the dominant one on the palestinians. what is that invisible or silent? started my line, then then labeled and so on, gradually, now with of course, with social media and with access to information and knowledge and with the ability to network and understand and with the south. also speaking of because of the global south now is becoming more bulk of the sort of dominant life due to being christian mentality is no longer the, the ruler of that was so to speak. and now so to out the west, the people advising that people are understanding the nature of the palestinian cause of the fact that we are indigenous people being a so to speak. and then i then no protest by a colonial part because to us is then, is a cult as an offshoot of colonialism. and the, they are beginning to speak out and they've refused to listen to their own
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governments. they've challenged that on governments as we saw in london and pettus and different places. the younger generations questioning not asking, are seeking sites and knowledge and not reaching out. and this is what gives them power that they are not easily intimidated. and the as seeking that own voice and the seeking partnerships and networks. and that's what makes a difference now. and then after that we thank you so much for joining us in upfront. thank you, mike. it's good to be with you as a debt, paul and palestine continues to mount. united states maintains it starts the port of israel's war on gaza. washington stance has come under heavy criticism and some question why palestinian lives don't seem to be valued in the same way as those of victims of other conflicts. so is there a double standard when it comes to palestinian victims of what you wanted me to discuss this? are the authors of a recent report on how was level phobia shapes
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u. s. foreign policy? so how the of these is the distinguished professor of law and middle east legal studies at rutgers university and author of the racial muslim when racism quietest religious freedom ross enjoyed by mitchell politic president of re thinking foreign policy and co director of jewish voice for peace is also the author of except for palestine, the limits of progressive politics, of which i am, of course, a co author. so good to see both of you as a 100. i'm going to start with you. in this report, you to mentioned that as lemme phobia is a ubiquitous ingredient in u. s. policy. that's a rocket and phrase, we mean uh you pick what it's ingredient, essentially since 911. so over 22 years, the american foreign policy and national security policies has been had been centered around the vilification of muslims and the looks of body and originally slower as terrorist, violent anti american liberal massage,
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domestic and also anti cement. and as a result, the entire society has been primed and socialized by the media, by schools, by politicians, and their rhetoric to presume that most ones are outside or is there a threat. and part of that by there is ation of most lows is this falls, teaching of americans that muslims are taught to hate. you said this when teachers muscles to a tooth and that is racist. right? and unfortunately then what happens is when a muslim or the era wants to engage in human rights, advocacy wants to engage in foreign policy. dissent or critiques. that in any way, criticize the state of israel's practices and policies weren't in any way defend the palace. do you use human rights? they're automatically placed in this to solve for withdrawal that, oh, your motivations are anti submitted. they're not actually liberal values to
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support human rights for all people, including outstanding. how does this play out in foreign policy? mitchell? how does this notion that muslims are naturally disposed toward homophobia? liberalism barbarity is that, or how does this stuff play out inform policy? well, i think, you know what, we're, we're seeing a really good example of it. i think unfortunately, right now with the uh, bombardment of gaza we, the approach of american law makers has been that israel is entitled to do what uh, what is doing. um, even if, if, even if they say that if causing a few too many civilian casualties, which is a, you know, frankly, an important statement. it's minimization of the devastation and gaza. it, it's demonstrating how little value is placed on palestinian lives and how easy it
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is that kind of things are read as muslim because obviously the past that increases of house introduced. yeah, i mean, this is one of the things we actually open the report by by saying we're, we're using it as obviously a very broadly. and we're using it to include anti arab uh, bigotry as well as anti palestinian. specifically at how sending a baby with the understanding that it's a particular dynamic and the assignments of the troops are applied to all arabs. but right now we're seeing how easily that, uh, our political leaders are just treating palestinian lives as disposable and as worthless. you know, you can contrast it with the statement about the a mass attack on, on october 7th, where there is correct in my view and an absolutely justified outrage at the atrocities and the mass squared. that was committed on that day as it should be. because people are the people are valuing is rarely live as all lives should be valued. we're not seeing the same thing when it comes to the people who've gaza,
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or the people of the west bank. we're not seeing anything like that. and that is the result of years and years in here is assigned to, so it'd be at the hour of racism being pumped into our discourse and to our media and to our policy discussions so hard. i've also noticed the language that's used to talk about some aspects of the language as we use talking about the as rarely space. people are very matter of factly using words like barbaric and civilized talk about math and not just how math but also people were living in god. so how does that kind of language? how does that kind of framing help sort of normalize these really respond? in other words, it's use which is like if you see them is not human, does it make it easier to bottom them? it doesn't make it easier to see them as collateral damage? well, history didn't start on october 7th, and some of phobia didn't start even on in 2001 on 911. so what the american government has always done to persuade its people to support violence that actually
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contradicts the very values they are taught in schools, which is a quality human rights. human dignity, equal opportunity is to characterize the enemy as barbaric savage and civilized. and therefore, this verification of the most warm and the air of and the 1000 you must exist in order for israel to per proceed. the unconditional support because it's seen as an outpost of white america, an outpost of european civilization. and the palestinians are seen as the extension of his pre 911 at pre, even colonial era of the class of civilizations between the christian west and the most longed beast. so all of this is, is unsurprising. i think what is shocking to many of us will study this shepherd. history is this degree in which, uh, the,
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this way. these are chewing palestinians, the rate at which they're dying or being till so the, the more crimes are clear why the is ready to be signed and yes, how message committed? we're puns 2. but in contrast we can desmond by this. we don't fund the m s and we value the pathways randy victims and the hostages in their lives. but we treat the palestinians as if in the words of one of these rarely officials as human animals and shame on us for doing that. the we in the us that you're referring to is the united states, and this comes up in the report as well. michel, because you talk about a i radicalized double standard, which is called of most acute, for most of them are arab americans when they exercise their free speech rights to criticize the us government's failure to hold, it is real accountable for its actions. could you elaborate on what you mean when you all say a radicalized double standard? i think we saw a great example of that in congress recently. yeah, just
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a few weeks ago. yeah. century and a member of the house is a rare occurrence outside of 6 people, 6 people and 3 of them were, were, were people who supported the confederacy. right? so outside of that issue, there's always receive it to be the only posting in american and congress became only the 3rd a person to be censured. and what was she centered for? essentially rashida was censured for standing up proposed to be right. this is exactly what we're talking about when i and regina is a muslim and she spoke up for her people. i think this is a absolutely certainly example of what we're talking about in the report that if you are muscle you are, you are going to be, you're going to be centered for, for speaking of for human rights. and you're particularly going to be accused of anti semitism. if you stand up for palestinian rights, this is the iron you have the of what is being done. the the accusation against
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receive it to leave for that that she is anti semitic because she stood up for palestinian right? that is itself after senators, because it presumes that that jewish and this is a line with the violence of he's right. exactly. and, and, and essentially, stigmatizes, anyone who stands for universal human rights because there is supposed to be as, as, as was put in our book at an exception for palestine that and that again, is anti semitic because you are, you are somehow singling, this is where you're singling out jewish people for special treatment and what it looks like, you're doing us a favor. what you're actually doing is presenting resentment. we seen this repeated throughout particularly european jewish history, where jews get certain protections from the ruling class for a certain amount of time. and when there is a pressure on that ruling class and they want to ship blame to the jews, they say, look how they took advantage of you and look how much better they had it while you
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were suffering in your peasantry. was it the same dynamic repeating itself? and it's using palestinian blood to do it, which makes it, i think a double crime. so it's a heart use like muslims and jews are often pitted against each other in what you call a 0 sum game. what do you mean as well? jews and muslims are not raised or taught to a teacher. and in fact, if we were to talk about the history of the experiences of the jewish people, you would find back their treatment was much, much better in muscle majority. countries than it was in christian majority countries and in europe. but also they share many values, either based on sexual political, ideological commitments or even religious commitments. and when you, when you define incorrectly anti semitism as an opposition to a political ideology, in this case, political zion is a,
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or if you define anti semitism incorrectly as an opposition to a state practices and policies. in this case, the state of israel, what you do is you create a unnecessary false wedge between muslims and jews. so how does, does the recent house resolution make this even more complicated? cuz i hear what you're saying here with both of you were saying, right, which is this isn't that hard? anti semitism is the agent in violence against use for being jewish. and then they are critiques of israel. their questions about zionism, etc, which are different. there is a very real rise in anti semitism that has occurred around the world both before october, 7th, and certainly afterward. but then you have a house resolution house resolution 89 for which explicitly states that the, that anti zionism is. anti semitism. is that dangerous? so so why is the solution reflects politics in america?
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it reflects the one sided support for a particular country and on politicians opposition to the human rights human dignity of the palestinian people. if you look at the organizations that are tracking the amount of incidence and so rights discrimination, cases and complaints, but most women and students in colleges as been workplace as the counsel american stomach relations. for example, the affair of american i have kind of defamation committee. most will advocate their new or this non profit organizations, but sure most of marisol days and communities. and they have shown that the number of hate incidence and bias incidence has risen back all those met over 200 percent in the last 8 months. why isn't congress concerned about that? population of the american citizens? so i think it's telling but they have apps. they seem to care about religious
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bigotry, but only for one group unless they missed a finance. and they don't care about religious bigotry against muscle. and when it is rising and equally startling level in the united states, all right, then i have to be the last where there's a header as these mitchell politic, thanks so much for joining me in upfront. all right, everyone, that is our show upfront. we'll be back next to the as is arouse war and gaza continues. we bring you the nation. we're on the grounds and goes back to bring you the events as they have been reporting 1st 10 on the suffering. and a lot of people on the list of tasks and states and we live in occupied east garrison covering the lights, his political developments. and in fact,
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we're here across the west bank. the full king has how this war is not just massively affecting losing dollars. stay with us for the latest updates and detailed coverage of the war on gaza on houses. the african countries have struggled to replay, many of the artifacts taken by you repeat, colonized. this is our experience, most of our identities. in the final part of the series, museums and collectors, still hold precious assets like a few happy returns. but the still a long way to go on progress is painfully slow restitution patrick has stolen off with punctuation on notice here. examining the impact of today's headlines. the fear of the destruction of your everything international filmmakers and world class john,
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unless you're saying that these laws actually encourage more violence, 7 has to know stories for a global audience. this is a mighty policy. this is way what these are so tied to the phrase us from our concept. open your eyes to an alternative view of the world today on how does era, the heavy fighting and garza of palestinian sizes say they're attacking advancing is really forcing confrontations in the occupied west bank as well as cobblestone infections. confront is where these policies are. a lot more rates the on high school. so this is obviously rely from the also coming up. i'm us leaders
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