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tv   The Bottom Line  Al Jazeera  December 29, 2023 5:30am-6:01am AST

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man had hoped 2023 would be a year, a soaring post at times i make, i cannot make recovery. instead, the world's 2nd largest economy is grappling with a crisis and consumer confidence and crippling debts and it's property sector that's making it harder for many young people to find opportunities in a tightening job market. katrina, you reports from badging on a freezing winter night in bay james. most people have taken refuge in doors to escape the sub 0 temperatures. but 10 symbol is that her jewelry stat at an outdoor market. one of the few vendors left hoping for a few more sales on a good day. she makes just over $30.00 or so for and do not have my income here isn't stable. i can make it be more in peak season, but now it's so cold, not many people come out to shop. but i have to keep doing it to make a living. during the pandemic can take a break from her career and finance to look after her newborn son. but when she was ready to return to work, i was unable to find a new job for spoke to other vendors who didn't want to appear on cameras, but had similar stories of folding on hard times 19 or his own small company. but
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this is doing well, so he's selling through this on the slide in order to make ends meet. another were a couple who used to own a restaurant that was sent across during the 1010. so they've been forced to make and sell their own bracelets to make a living. china had expected 2023 to be a year booming, post corporate 19 recovery, but instead economic growth has stagnated. and the job market is titled that it's be inc, decades. there's a consensus that economy is quite weak and the policy response remain quite lagging and insufficient. so on the micro level, when we look at to the job market, it is quite difficult. yeah. especially towards the year end. almost every company in the industry, in finance and in housing is trying to layoff more cuz it's especially tough for new graduates. unemployment among chinese aged 16 to 24. hit
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a record high of 21.3 percent in june. before the authorities stopped to publish and it goes up assistant crisis in the housing sector, a traditional driver of course, is also way go the economy and people are choosing to save their money. rather than spend it posing domestic concern, sion, the government insists conditions will improve in 2024 over all the favorable conditions for china is development. i'll wait the unfavorable factors. but until that kenzie moore says she will continue working at this market 10 hours a day, 7 days a week hoping to make just enough to sustain her family for another day. katrina, you out a 0 staging. and i said for me down joe, to be here with more from the top of the hour off to the bottom line, the the,
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the vendor for nearly 3 years. evelyn lemitrus has been investigating the sharp pen trafficking operation. now she's putting together the team that's going to rated and lexie though they're still quite as b o. but as it less cynthia, this bit of a short span to become a global commodity prize doesn't agree to it. and the special soup in asia sharps that play the vital role in the ocean for hundreds of millions of years. but the trade is now pushing some spaces to the brink of extinction. the list of trade in short fences value hundreds of millions of dollars a year. i'm which i didn't mind that then. okay. one more thing. go that on the wedding that i'm assuming that we're talking about we gained exclusive access to a team of investigators aint of dismantling or ring a short vend traffickers video be my gosh. okay. think of that. he always thinks
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under the same, you know, so they were following his car here as an investigator and a couple of cops in it. we're going to lead or rates today in the harbor against these traders who they say are putting some space is a chart at risk? is that correct? yes, that sounds. i have to be nadia. yes. hi, i'm steve clements and i have a question. why have american evangelicals become, is real strongest backers. let's get to the bottom line, the throughout the war and gaza and for decades before that, american evangelicals have been some of the most powerful voices for israel. and that's saying a lot 30 percent of americans describe themselves as evangelicals. conservative christians are the backbone to the republican party support for israel and they drive the national debates on abortion, on immigration, on education,
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and even race. they believe it, god made a promise to the jewish people designating palestine as their homeland. and they see the creation of israel in 1948 as a fulfillment of biblical prophecy. this idea, known as christian zionism, can be traced back for centuries. so with all the weight, the conservative christians have in the us, how much of these ideas are driving american policy on the middle east, and is the catastrophic war waged by israel over the past few months and gaza, sparking a debate among christian churches in the country today we're talking with jonathan could have co founder of the palestinian human rights group out hawk, board member of bethlehem bible college, an author of beyond the 2 state solution. john, and thanks so much for joining us. and i have to admit this terrain is one that i don't often talk about, which is you know, the religious dimensions of conflict and national interest. tell us what we should know about christian zionism. well, this is, i, ism, is, is an old phenomena. and different kinds of christian scientist,
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but the broad uh, thread that connects them altogether is a uh, a political position on zionism and israel based on some interpretations of scripture. uh, some of them are really far out. some of them believe that it's the duty of christians, the support as well. uh because that helps the jesus come back again. the 2nd coming, it's tied into their interpretation of prophecies and, and times you may have heard about the left behind series or the late great planet errors. a. these are very popular sensationalized expressions of christians zionism that says that the end of the world is near the creation of
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the state of israel is a harbinger of the 2nd coming of christ. and the somehow just shows, i suppose, to support this stage of israel as, as part of god's land for the world. now that's all christian scientists believe that. what do they do believe is that somehow it's the duty of christians to support the in gathering of the jews. uh and to support the state of israel on the deck, one verse and the scripture and the genesis where god says, uh to abraham. i will bless those who bless thee and cherish those who cares the through your seed with all the nations of the world be blessed. so people say we need the blessing, we want the blessing. and so we want to support the state of israel because that's the way to obtain god's blessing. the problem of course is that this is
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a totally. busy interpretation of scripture because the new testament says that the seed of israel is used in the singular who is christ. it is through christ that all the nations of the world are blessed. and that's the thing. yeah. or the state of israel. i find it interesting because i think this is a certain strain of the, of angelic co movement that has as that talks about the conflict example that today, almost in holy war terms, which we haven't seen with political power. but this does have political power. yes . this is really a very fascinating thing. i live doesn't only apply to christians, adding this, the state of israel and design this movement has actually saw the support of well known anti semite as long as that. but it's clearly in the corner, like uh,
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hundreds or by and for example of like president trump. people who are bigoted. i submitted who have jews, but who are willing to support the state of israel out of welcome by the video and video, the head use it perfect example. uh and this, the ology is actually very f. they submitted. at one time he says, god doesn't even answer the prayers of jews. but, but this strange political wedding between anti semites and the zionist movement is also available for christian scientists. you can, you can hate jews. you can think that they are. uh, you know, god is go to church that uh, very recently i heard about a pastor and a big mega church. we were trying to ask them to pray for the children of guys. this is no, no, no, no,
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i don't want to do that. i don't want to create trouble because you see, i believe and the prophecy of these jews and go together there. and then with a basement on his face, that they're all gonna die. because i'm gonna get the, they're all gonna be destroyed. except for those who accept jesus christ as their savior. so this guy who really doesn't like jews, who are things are going to be destroyed, is still going to politically support zionism in the state of israel. and that because he really loves the jews or cares about them that but because it fits in his twisted c r g. well, i'm going to ask you in a moment, jonathan, about how a mazda is ideology, just to, you know, be fair and talk about different corners of this equation. but another puzzle piece and this confusing for me anyway. is that the ambassador of israel to the united nations the lot aired on actually went to the cornerstone church, went to texas,
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where, where john hagi is based and um christians, united for israel are, are, are based and, and he made the following statement. it says from us ideology is the same as that of isis outright. a and i a total or vision human iran does it were you just see a leading statesman from israel serving in the united nations allied with john haig. e and this of christians, united for israel. well, uh, let's be very clear. i am left in apologies for a mess. uh there. uh sure, laza g the g is this la, mrs. but it's a much more mild form of islam is set and that isis uh, they said to me like the appeal of religion. and i think one must realize that with the failure of at of nationalism throughout the middle east,
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that is greater interest in the slimy form of politics. but this love is such a role is a spectrum. is this not christianity? you can be a christian marxist. you can be a christian. as sophie, you can be a christian mistake, you can be a christian liberal on christian, conservative own christian radical islam is a very broad thing. it's not monolithic. and frankly, at least the people that i know of from a mass are quite mild, quite moderate, like uh, uh, some of them ive progressive. the awesome, crazy is of course, uh but, but then you find that in every religion and every political movements. uh i think uh the harm actually those have made here that i'm willing to accept the sort of
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long term but now with israel that they are willing to work with the piano or defend the nationalist. they are a lot of religious in there. uh, but did you have a doctor and uh, but now that stays you find the mentors. uh they said that the kaiser has and that is very predictive actually of the tiny christian my knowledge you guys uh uh, throughout the years a lot of the rise of how this was because people are very disgruntled with fedex and that, but i send you an apology, good, very corrupt and then efficient as best. and it wears there was savings, occupation, and collaborating with it, and sort of consorting it's people as sub contractors board as the occupation. so of course people don't really get that and would, would go to lean towards
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a motor religious outcome. and then you have to understand that people in palestine is right. the middle east are religious, but it's a mild kind of religion. it's a deep faith that ultimately god is in control, that you see people living in calamities and raising their hands up as, as god look what's happening to us. we love to you for salvation. so that is always going to be ever the just component to people's views on politics and everything else. the question is, what kind of religion is it their mother or is it an intolerant fanatic of religion? uh and my at least my own uh, experience with him as that is the mother uh form of uh,
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as long as it's like, almost like the muslim brotherhood. a rather than like isis. i'm not saying the christians i in this group in america is all powerful, powerful, but it does have power. the, the us embassy in israel didn't move from tallahassee to jerusalem in part because of this movement. so there is muscle there and i'm interested in your study of this group and to what degree they see palestine in, in a future that may be more just more fair to both sides, frankly, as well. the christian design, this movement does it at or did was it for the city is a for them, the cdc, the non existent, are the enemies of god because of the enemies of the state of israel. i find that the beautiful christians zionism is very broad, but it's very thin. it's not very deep. it's that as fundamental to that identity
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as issues like abortion, for example, or homosexuality for them to support for his name is like a default position that they haven't thought much about because they were never really asked or question or challenged on it. it's it's, it's a default position my, my interaction was tristan's i, and this has been that the very shallow they don't really. busy the facts for them, it's just a given that is a oh because they're read about is the bible, and they quaint is the name of the bible with the mother. they states of israel big waiting to finish the news with the philistines. that's where being, frankly, ethnically plans, uh, by the hebrew tribes adult estimates. they sort of jumped over to a 1000 years of history and then jump over. most of the new testament said when you
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sit with them and talk to them and the what the, why the to them that they're very liable to change their positions. but you have to talk to them. in biblical terms, you have to quote scripture to them. you can't quote to them international law. what do they care? you get caught to them of the dangers of world war 3. that's a bring it on. that's the end times. that's the 2nd coming. that's wonderful. you have to talk to them about cry sloth, a christ compassion christ being the priest of peace of christ, being open to everybody at salvation, forgot sort of the world, not just the jewish drive that he gave his only begotten son. so whoever believes in him shall not perish, but have everlasting, right? when you talk in that language to many christians, i missed, they said,
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we never thought about that. maybe you are right. maybe there is a room for us to talk and to discuss. the problem is that most people who oppose christian zionism, uh, don't use that language, is that they say, you know, you're crazy. you're, you're, well, we can't live our lives. we can't run our politics based on what you say because it's destructive and then say ok destructive with is. this is what we believe. this is what the bible teaches. the god said it, i believe it that settles it. right. what is your sense, jonathan? of how much this may effect president biden's view of the situation. you know, biden is not a christian scientist. he is a catholic christian who is a believer in zionism, but we should not merge those 2 together. but how do you feel, joe biden is influenced by this conservative christian framing,
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and i see less so then for example, somebody like micro beds or bump bail from the old administration. they would even jelly goes and there was christian scientist, i think by then there's lot of a politician. i don't think he has christian faith really is involved too much and, and his politics. he is a catholic, as you mention. and the pope has to be very clear about what uh the bible, electricians really need to do about uh, the shattered glass just been guys are uh so i'm not, i don't think uh by then is himself a christian scientist. you find more interesting scientists among white even jelly goes uh, who tend to be more republican and democratic. so kristof is
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i ism, is a phenomena more closely allied with the republican. right? doing politicians a but, but the odd people, a lot of manipulative. these are politicians, they don't really care, they don't really believe that's, that's what motivates them. rather it's interests. one of the reminders to it for many americans and many around the world that there are palestinian christians was a horrible incident in which a mother and daughter were shot by israel. the snipers, while they were seeking refuge in a church in gaza, would love to hear about palestinian christians and their view of this, their differences with the american christian community. if there are, i mean, i'd love to kind of see where they are on the map. how important are they in this equation right now, which is which is horrible,
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but they are there. you're one of them as well. but as to do this is have always been n m t 0 part of the palestinian national movements. uh, from the days of josh. hi, bash the days of uh, the doors on the towing. you'll see them before that one of the 3 ages of the band out of nationalist movement. uh so, so christians have always been part of the palestinian nationalist movement both because of their commitment as spanish didn't use but also because of their belief and separation of church and state. we say at the last one of the jimmy or the homeland belongs to everybody, but my religion belongs to god. it's between me and god. what will it take with your work and others to elevate the notion that non violent movements and non
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violent protest and resistance may be a better answer while we're in the, you know, horrors of war right now. i think what it takes is if you victories, but a student is generally are not a very military people. we have very militant vocabulary. we talk of blood and guts and power and, and rifles. but actually most of the palestinian political movement from the thirty's to this date has been blank cards. appeals to the united nations protest organizing negotiations of tentative forms, hunger strikes for prisoners. most of our activism has been non violent, but it has not used a lot of violence. we thought like, as we have used a very violent, we thought it on struggle. the gun will be no avoids,
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shall be raised above the voice of the gun. but, but in actual practice, we haven't been very violent in our struggle with the zionism, we have been largely non violent, but we haven't use very tight the language of non violence. i mean, i tell the b b s movement which sort of in an organized fashion. i tried to use and then virus. but we've had the great much of return and gaza. we have almost daily activities of non violence in the west bank. protests strikes, hunger strikes, fasting, raising slow goods, raising the flag even getting shots for raising the flag. where if you're on human rights documentation, we have the very active and then via this. but we haven't usually use the
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language of non violence. we have use the language of on struggles, sometimes very bloody violets. we, we would make the ground burn under the feet of the occupiers, very via and language but, but i would activities have a good luxury in them. but what is your got tell you about where this conflict is going well. so 2 things happened on october 7th. one of them was military. that tax of her mess, where says military breach, that was the attacked soldiers. they attacked military install installations. they took over a number of army bases. they killed about $300.00 soldiers and captured many that was a military operation. nobody talks about it. they also attacked civilians
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and took civilians, hostages. that was the wrong. that was a lot of crime in many cases. thank you. hostages civilian hostages was, was illegal under international law. everybody concentrates on that portion of what's happening in october 7, rather than the military aspects. and i think many police didn't use were fascinated with the military aspects. here comes a group that actually breached the war. we tried non violent treat to approach the war and the snipers killed 62 of us in one day. $62.00 on tennis didn't use walking towards the wall where each killed by snipers in one day. so that people, uh, web ex, reacted to the military aspects of i'm starting to which i mess illustrated,
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that even under the very difficult circumstances of siege, they were able to do something really generally. so in that sense, it's really helped shift the balance of power, which was so totally in favor of israel. it created a little bit of a, uh, i wouldn't say a bad idea, but a little bit, it shrunk. the gap between palestinians and israelis. on the other hand, it's really increased the fears and the toilets of israelis. and so that they have for their reaction was just massive genocide don't. i mean, they, they really was pulled out to try and recreate the detail of is that, but they will never be able to succeed in that. and in that aspect,
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they will never be able to restore the tenants. restore the element of fear. that's not going to happen. well, we'll have to leave it there. thank you so much for joining us. palestinian human rights lawyer. jonathan can tab co founder of the palestinian human rights group. i'll hock really appreciate your candor. thank you very much. so what's the bottom line? evangelical christians are a major force in societies around the world, but the truth is they've helped supplant functioning multi ethnic multi faith communities around the world with sectarian divisions and religion infused intolerance. in israel, the jewish people have support of many evangelicals because of the role jews play. in the old testament of the bible, they sort of see the jewish people as part of their own story and conservative christianity brings their political strength to israel's cause. particularly today in this war on gaza. there's just no doubt that religion is a driver on both sides of the palestine, israel issue and all political issues. but the aspects of tolerance and empathy
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that are part of all religions are getting drowned out by sectarianism and hate the belief that one religion will ultimately prevail above the other. that's dangerous, and it makes it much harder to have discussions on how to bring justice and better lives to both palestine and israel. and that's the bottom line. the the latest news as it breaks, echo is, is not only concerned about the possibility of more causing the reason it's worried . take good proximate, with detail coverage less than 2 weeks. central office being criticized so behaving more like a number of precedents from around the world since the start of the war. a vast number of small up voluntary groups have sprung. it's a big, they don't have the result of big organization. it is
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