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solutions, not just turn our backs. i don't think that has a number. think about it as a person in yourself. and that person's shoes. so as you can see for this is my us, my life, or at least in my life, those dentures. we want, we want the education reward because the women and my country deadlock suite to come up to on we are not denies ology, we are human beings and deserves to be treated equally. we are in the footsteps, our ancestors. whatever has been done before, can be done as long as a human being is doing it. you just have to keep pushing because no one else can see. the vision is keywords. you a hi, i'm steve clements and i have a question. why have american evangelicals become, is real strong?

this backers, let's get to the bottom line, the throughout the war and gaza and for decades before that, american evangelicals have been some of the most powerful voices for israel. and that's thing a lot. 30 percent of americans describe themselves as evangelicals. conservative christians are the backbone of the republican party support for israel, and they drive the national debates on abortion, on immigration, on education, and even race. they believe that god made a promise to the jewish people designating palestine as their homeland. and they see the creation of israel in 1948 as a fulfillment of biblical prophecy. this idea, known as christian zionism can be traced back for centuries. so with all the weight, the conservative christians have in the us, how much of these ideas are driving american policy on the middle east, and is the catastrophic war wage by israel over the past few months in gaza, sparking a debate among christian churches in the country today we're talking with jonathan

could tab co founder of the palestinian human rights group out hoc board member of bethlehem bible college, an author of beyond the 2 state solution john n. thanks so much for joining us. i have to admit this terrain is one that i don't often talk about, which is you know, the religious dimensions of conflict and national interest. tell us what we should know about christian zionism. well, this is, i, ism, is, is an old phenomena. and different kinds of questions in this about the broad uh thread that connects them altogether is a uh, a political position on zionism and israel. based on some interpretations of scripture or uh, some of them are really far out. uh, some of them believe that it's the beauty of christian as the support as well because that helps the jesus come back again. the 2nd coming,

it's tied into their interpretation of prophecies and, and times you may have heard about the left behind series or the late great planet errors. a. these are very popular sensationalized expressions of christian zionism that says that the end of the world is near the creation of the state of israel is a harbinger of the 2nd coming of christ. and the somehow just shows, i suppose the support at this stage of israel as, as part of god's land uh for the world. now that's all christian scientists believe that. what do they do believe is that somehow it's the duty of christians to support the in gathering of the jews. uh and to support the state of israel.

they take one verse and is scripture and the genesis where uh, god says uh to abraham. i will bless those who bless the and tears those who cares the through your seed with all the nations of the world be blessed. so people say we need the blessing, we want the blessing. and so we want to support the state of israel because that's the way to obtain god's blessing. and the problem of course is that this is a totally. busy interpretation of scripture because a new test and it says that the seed of israel is used in the singular who is christ, it is through christ that all the nations of the world are blessed. and that's the thing. yeah. or the state of israel. i find it interesting because i think this is a certain strain of the, of angelic co movement that has as that talks about the conflict example that today,

almost in holy war terms, which we haven't seen with political power. but this does have political power. yes . this is really a very fascinating thing. i live doesn't only apply to christians, adding this, the state of israel and design. this movement has actually saw the support of well known anti semites as long as they have. but it's clearly in their corner, like uh, hundreds or by and for example, like president trump. people who are bigoted. i submitted who have jews, but who are willing to support the state of israel out of welcome by the video and video, the head use it perfect example. uh and this, the ology is actually very f. they submitted. at one time he says, god doesn't even answer the prayers of jews. but,

but this strange political wedding between anti semites and the zionist movement is also available for christian scientists. you can, you can hate jews. you can think that they are. uh, you know, god is go to church that uh, very recently i heard about a pastor and a big mega church. we were trying to ask them to pray for the children of guys. this is no, no, no, no, i don't want to do that. i don't want to create trouble because you see, i believe and the prophecy of these jews and go together there. and then with a basement on his face, that they're all gonna die. because i'm gonna get the, they're all gonna be destroyed. except for those who accept jesus christ as their savior. so this guy who really doesn't like jews, who are things are going to be destroyed, is still going to politically support zionism in the state of israel. and that

because he really loves the jews or cares about them that but because it fits in his twisted c ology. while i'm going to ask you in a moment, jonathan about how a mazda is ideology, just to, you know, be fair and talk about different corners of this equation. but another puzzle piece and this confusing for me anyway. is that the ambassador of israel to the united nations the lot aired on actually went to the cornerstone church, went to texas, where, where john hagi is based and um christians, united for israel are, are, are based and, and he made the following statement. it says from us ideology is the same as that of isis outright. a and i a total or vision human iran does it were you just see a leading statesman from israel serving in the united nations allied with john haig. e and this of christians, united for israel. well, uh,

let's be very clear. i am left in apologies for a mess. uh there. uh sure, laza g the g is this la, mrs. but it's a much more mild form of islam is set and that isis uh, they said to me like the appeal of religion. and i think one must realize that with the failure of at of nationalism throughout the middle east, that has greater uh, interest in the slimy form of politics. but this love is such a role is a spectrum. is this factor strategy. you can be a christian marxist, you can be a christian. as sophie, you can be a christian mistake, you can be a christian liberal on christian, conservative own christian radical islam is

a very broad thing. it's not monolithic. and frankly, at least the people that i know of from a mass are quite mild, quite moderate, like, uh, uh, some of them are progressive. there are some phases of course, uh but, but then you find that in every religion and every political movements, i think that i'm actually those have made here that i'm willing to accept a sort of long term, but now with israel, that they are willing to work with the b o and the fact that the national rest uh they are a lot of religious in there. uh, but it did, you have a doctor and uh, but, but now that's crazy. find the mentors that they're not the kaisers and that is very predictive. actually of the tiny christian my knowledge you guys uh uh,

throughout the years a lot of the rise of how this was because people were very disgruntled with fedex and that, but i send you an apology. good, very corrupt and then efficient as best. and it wears there was savings, occupation, and collaborating with it, and sort of consorting it's people as sub contractors board as the occupation. so of course people don't really get that and would, would go to lean towards a motor religious outcome. and then you have to understand that people in palestine is right, the middle east are religious, but it's a mild kind of religion. it's a deep faith that ultimately god is in control. that you see people living in calamities and raising their hands up as, as god look what's happening to us. we love to you for salvation. so that is

always going to be ever the just component to people's views on politics and everything else. the question is, what kind of religion is it their mother or is it an intolerant fanatic of religion and my at least my own uh, experience with him as that is the mother it uh from uh, uh, as long as it's like, almost like the muslim brotherhood a rather than like isis, i'm not saying the christians i in this group in america is all powerful, powerful, but it does have power. the, the us embassy in israel didn't move from tallahassee to jerusalem in part because of this movement. so there is muscle there. and i'm interested in your study of this group and to what degree they see palestine in, in

a future that may be more just more fair to both sides, frankly, as well. the christian design, this movement does it at or did was it for the city is a for them, the cdc, the non existent, are the enemies of god because of the enemies of the state of israel. i find that the beautiful christians zionism is very broad, but it's very thin. it's not very deep. it's that as fundamental to that identity as issues like abortion, for example, or homosexuality for them to support for his name is like a default position. then they have thought much about because they were never really asked or question or challenged on it. it's, it's, it's a default position. my, my interaction was tristan's i, and this has been that the very shallow they don't really. busy the facts for them,

it's just a given that is a oh because they're read about is the bible, and they quaint is the name of the bible with the mother. they state of israel, big waiting to finish the news with the philistines. that's where being, frankly, ethnically plans, uh, by the hebrew tribes adult estimates. they sort of jumped over to a 1000 years of history and then jump over. most of the new testament said when you sit with them and talk to them and the what the, why the to them that they're very liable to change their positions. but you have to talk to them. in biblical terms, you have to quote scripture to them. you can't quote to them international law. what do they care? you get the quote to them of the dangers of world war 3. that's a, bring it on. that's the end times. that's the 2nd coming. that's wonderful. you have

to talk to them about cry sloth, a christ compassion christ being the prison, peace of christ being open to everybody that salvation forgot sort of the world. not just the jewish drive that he gave his only begotten son. so whoever believes in him shall not perish, but have everlasting, right? when you talk in that language to many christians i, in this they said we never thought about that. maybe you're right. maybe there is a room for us to talk and to discuss. the problem is that most people who oppose christians zionism, uh, don't use that language, is that they say, you know, you're crazy. you're, you're, well, we can't live our lives. we can't run our politics based on what you say because it's destructive and they say ok distracted with is this is what we believe. this

is what the bible teaches. the god said it, i believe it that settles it. right. what is your sense, jonathan? of how much this may effect president biden's view of the situation. you know, biden is not a christian scientist. he is a catholic, christian who is a believer in design isn't, but we should not merge those 2 together. but how do you feel, joe biden is influenced by this conservative christian framing and i see less so then for example, somebody like micro beds or bump bail from the old administration. they would even jelic those. and there was christian scientist, i think by then there's lot of a politician. i don't think he has christian faith really is involved too much and, and his politics. he is a catholic, as you mention. and the pope has to be very clear about what uh

the bible, electricians really need to do about uh, the shattered price has been kaiser. uh, so i'm gonna, i don't think uh, biden is himself a christian scientist. you find more interesting scientists among white even jelly goes uh, who tend to be more republican and democratic. so kristof is i ism, is a phenomena more closely allied with the republican. right? doing politicians a but, but the odd people, a lot of manipulative. these are politicians, they don't really care, they don't really believe that's, that's what motivates them. rather it's interests. one of the reminders for many americans and many around the world that there are palestinian christians was

a horrible incident in which a mother and daughter were shot by israel. the snipers, while they were seeking refuge in a church in gaza, would love to hear about palestinian christians and their view of this, their differences with the american christian community. if there are, i mean, i'd love to kind of see where they are on the map. how important are they in this equation right now, which is, which is horrible, but they are there. you're one of them as well. but let's do this is have always been n m t 0 part of the palestinian national movements. uh from the days of george. hi, bash the days of the doors on towing. you'll see them before that one of the 3 ages of the band out of nationalist movement. uh so so christians have always been part of the palestinian nationalist movement

both because of their commitment as spanish didn't use. but also because of their belief and separation of church and state, we say a de la what the jimmy or the homeland belongs to everybody. but my religion belongs to god. it's between me and god. what will it take with your work and others to elevate the notion that non violent movements and non violent protest and resistance may be a better answer while we're in the, you know, horrors of war right now. i think what it takes is if you victories, but a student is generally are not a very military people. we have very militant vocabulary. we talk of blood and guts and power and, and rifles. but actually most of the palestinian political movement from the

thirty's to this date has been blank cards, appeals to the united nations protest organizing negotiations, alternative forms, hunger strikes for prisoners. most of our activism has been non violent, but it has not used a lot of violence. we thought like, as we have used a very violent, we thought it on struggle. the gun will be no avoids, shall be raised above the voice of the gun. but, but in actual practice, we haven't been very violent in our struggle with the zionism, we have been largely non violent, but we haven't use very tight the language of non violence. i mean, i tell the b b s movement which sort of in an organized fashion. i tried to use and then virus. but we've had the great much of return and gaza. we have almost

daily activities of non violence in the west bank. protests strikes, hunger strikes, lasting, raising slow goods, raising the flag even getting shot for raising the flag. where if you on human rights documentation, we have the very active and then via this. but we haven't usually use the language of nonviolence. we have use the language of on struggles, sometimes very bloody violets we, we will make the ground burn under the feet of the occupiers, very via tenants language. but, but i would activities have been largely meant by what is your got tell you about where this conflict is going well. so 2 things happened on october 7th. one of them was military. that tax

of her mess where says military breach, that was the attacked soldiers, they attacked military install installations. they took over a number of army bases. they killed about $300.00 soldiers and captured many. that was a military operation. nobody talks about it. and they also attacked civilians and took civilians, hostages, that was the wrong. that was a lot of crime in many cases. thank you. hostages, civilian hostages was, was illegal under international law. everybody concentrates on that portion of what's happening in october 7, rather than the military aspects. and i think many police didn't use were fascinated with the military aspects. here comes

a group that actually breached the war. we tried non violent treat to approach the war. and the snipers killed 62 of us in one day. $62.00 on tennis, didn't use walking towards the wall where each killed by snipers in one day. so that people live attracted to the military aspects of i'm starting to which i mess illustrated, that even under the very difficult circumstances of siege, they were able to do something maybe generally. so in that sense, it really helped shift the balance of power, which was so totally in favor of israel. it created a little bit of a, uh, i wouldn't say a bad idea, but a little bit, it shrunk. the gap between palestinians and israelis. on the other hand,

it's really increased the fears and the toilets of israelis. and so that they have for their reaction was just massive genocide. the, i mean they, they really went all out to try and recreate the detail of is that, but they will never be able to succeed in that. and in that aspect, they will never be able to restore the tenants. restore the element of fear. that's not going to happen. well, we'll have to leave it there. thank you so much for joining us. palestinian human rights lawyer. jonathan can tab co founder of the palestinian human rights group. i'll hock really appreciate your candor. thank you very much. so what's the bottom line? evangelical christians are a major force in societies around the world, but the truth is they've helped supplant functioning multi ethnic,

multi faith communities around the world with sectarian divisions and religion infused intolerance. and israel, the jewish people have support of many evangelicals because of the role jews play. in the old testament of the bible, they sort of see the jewish people as part of their own story. and conservative christianity brings their political strength to israel's cause. particularly today in this war on gaza. there's just no doubt that religion is a driver on both sides of the palestine, israel issue and all political issues. but the aspects of tolerance and empathy that are part of all religions are getting drowned out by sectarianism and hate the belief that one religion will ultimately prevail above the other. that's dangerous, and it makes it much harder to have discussions on how to bring justice and better lives to both palestine and israel. and that's the bottom line. the up on

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