just stays opposed to what's happening now. it is a question professional and unflinching questions. rigorous the bank that he added to 2 days that another thing is taking place. augusta. nothing goes into garza without his real permission. nothing leaves golf though with offers roles. permission allow me to push back for a moment, demanding a ceasefire, demanding an end to the root causes of all of this violence upfront, without the us at 1st sight hemsley blinking this back in the least for his 5th visit since israel began its war on guns at his previous trips didn't bring any respite for palestinians on the bombardments. so what's the purpose of this business? this is inside story, the hello. welcome to the program. i'm adrian instead of going us secretary of state,

actually blinking his back in the middle east as israel as well on gaza rages on nearly 23000 palestinians have been killed and tens of thousands injured since early october. many of the weapons used to kill them on fucking much of guns that were supplied by the united states just over a week ago as blank and was preparing for this trip. he approved an emergency measure, bypassing congress to supply more tank shells to israel. the state department says that among the ames of lincoln's trip is in part to help civilians stand violence and reduce regional tension. but how will he achieve this? or is this? was it more about pay off the reality with exp all those issues with i guess in just a moment, but 1st the report from katia lopez hold i on the top us diplomat has traveled to the middle east 5 times in 3 months. anthony blankets late as tor comes as fears rise the israel's or ongoing could ignite

a wider regional conflict. a big part of the conversations will be happening over the coming days. with all of our, all as partners is looking at the steps that they can say using the influence advised that they have to do just that to make sure that this conflict doesn't spread. despite the huge death told in gaza, the us has continued to be, israel's biggest fac, are providing billions of dollars worth of military aiden weapons and vetoing a un resolution for an immediate cease fire. critics. a washington has not changed the intensity of israel's attacks. this administration has put forward no red lines, no ultimatums, there's been no condition except aid. none of that. so i do think that this gate arctic situation in the region which can always get further out of control has a lot to do with the policies of the by the need ministration negotiations to

secure the release of as really cap. this is unblinking agenda also on the list, he says are finding ways to deliver more food fuel in medicine and to goes up with more than 2000000 palestinians displaced. it's not clear what difference is blinking to visit will make no sense, but so solid, beautiful to get stupid stunt in line, and go around looking for a way to find water for the children. we have so many problems in the camp, there is no water. no surface, no medical attention or hygiene for tensions between washington and to ron are also on folding in the red sea ran back to the rebels, have attacked commercial vessels for weeks away. they say to pressure israel to stop. it's for ongoing. so and now 3 months since a, israel's bombing of the strip lincoln's visit will test the power of diplomacy. and then they also give more insight into the extent the us as prepared to go in

packing israel capielo physical again, alger 0 for insights story. on the day of lincoln's visit, the cost of the home of the elder 0 network. israel targeted on killed comes out of 2 surviving son and i was just there was bureau chief in guns a while. i'll talk to who already lost most of his family members in, in this rainy strike. back in october, terms of targeted, kidding. pulled a strong response from contrast minister of state for international cooperation, lola rashid out contra, who condemned to quote, the brutal occupation machine and everyone who contributed under great. the the. all right, let's bring it, i'll guess for today's discussion, for breast and in virginia with joined by sort of policy, executive vice president of the quincy institute for responsible statecraft from you, bye. have. so hello, an independent consultant who works on political, social and economic affairs, across the middle east, north africa,

on the horn of africa, and in washington, dc. god, by god, professor of national security affairs of the national defense universities near east south asia center for strategic study, a warm welcome to you all. before we talk about enter the blankets visit to the region. i just want to take a moment to address the targeted killing of comes a talk to some of our guns, a bureau chief wild f 2 on the very day, the lincoln arrives in council and our previous visits biplane kind of go and started with major is where the actions against palestinians. back in october, we'll have a 1000000 palestinians order to leave northern garza. well lincoln was in israel. an explosion along one of the so called safe routes, killed 70 people. a few days later on october 17th is really a tax on the i'll actually baptist hospital killed $471.00 people during yet another blinking visit in november,

israel talking to you and run school in the jabante, a refugee camp. at least 15 people were killed, thousands more were injured. at the end of the brief 6 fire descend, the israel resumed its attacks. its forces increased the strikes in the southern gaza strip of the day off the secretary of state and to the blinking, urged israel to do more to protect civilians. and now during clinton's latest visit, the sum of all gossip bureau chief comes out of who has been killed. find his randy, strike in southern guns, a trip to it, i think is what he's trying to send some sort of message. he had to think of this copy just coincidence, kind of it certainly doesn't come across as a correspondence, and it's very clear that the number of gentlemen, skilled in this complex far exceed dot or any other recent call more than a 100 so far. and i think it's also effective reporting coming out of guys in the sense that we're seeing less to images less reporting precisely because those who can report a bit of silence given the fact that there is

a these are resisting even the very limited fashion that binding is putting on that in regards to how to handle the war and garza, it wouldn't be surprising is dishes, warm up their assets to the wife before i get it arrives in i did reach it in order to stake, know how much they will resist. any effort by the, by and especially, that doesn't come with clear pressure such as putting the aid to israel to make it contingent upon them living up just didn't stand as long as there's no real pressure. it seems that these raiders will continue to be in this way. we will discuss what comes up to the pressure of what pressure can be applied to these radius in just a few moments. but for us to help set a blank and says, but he'll be looking at what can be done to maximize the protection of civilians in gaza and increase deliveries of humanitarian assistance. but with all the 22000

debt. now many of the women and children does that ring hollow to you? it's, it's a little too late, isn't this as well? i think it's not just too little tonight, adrian and thank you very much for having me. i think it's also completely false. nothing in the us is a real policy actions beyond such a double speak that we see your tweets that are written by the teams that have everybody from the secretary state to the president of the united states. and other members of the government seems to signal that there was any material pressure on these realm of just to a, to protect, to civilians or to prevent this level of civilian death. but also the fact to bring this will to any kind of conclusion or to hold the current uh, hostilities the receipt and goals are on the west bank on 5 east jerusalem at the end of the day. nothing that we've seen since on the type of site and then from anyone in the sick ministration signals that the us has anything bots supportive on

this war. and really the red line seemed to hinge on how much they're willing to box the expansion of this conflict by as well. professor i got a just a week ago as we were hearing blink and approve the sales with ram of a 155 millimeter artillery shells and related equipment. determining that the emergency required the immediate, say of israel that by waving congressional review requirements. and yet here he is in the region supposedly to piece, i mean, this visit reeks of hypocrisy. and also there's a, the united states has built a consistent policy to start with as a war. and it is important to point out that is the lesson plan to united states and in american media. lately, they highlighted some kind of disagreement between boston administration and the

apartment of nothing at all. and i believe also, it is important to understand that as difference between private, the policy and public diplomacy or the united states government that will not have to go in sort of company at all. and then as all you box, my understanding, send your medical, don't fish as when's a need towards that or is that all you did call the parts they push as hard as they can to use smart wickland to minimize executives of the innocent people because escalation is aggie, and this is that us national headquarters to the what, what do you make of that? does the us have any sway over the is where the government any leverage a tool or given what we were hearing that from, from the professor him. and he said that israel just isn't listening to,

to the west, to what extent is the current situation directly the fault of the bite, but ministrations policy? how much of the blame the current suffering in casa? does the us have to, but well, he's really not listening because they don't stop them is because the united states is not making up. it's the idea that the united states is much tougher. in 5, it's may be true, but it's not tough enough because we're not see any effects. the reality is united states has a tremendous amount of leverage, is choosing not to use united states as ship and 1000 tops of weapons and ammunition to israel. since the beginning of this war, according to these really major general in an interview last long, made it very clear. if the united states were just called the slow weapons and ammunition to the visual. and so it will not be able to continue this fine. it's very clear that, you know, it's just as numbers as choosing not to use it. and that raises the question that

you just ask to what extent is that the united states also responsible for the kids that are taking place right now. and i think divided registration is somewhat nervous as they should be about the complaint of the, the south african come, a government, excusing israel of genocide and taking this to the international court. just if it's found to be guilty of genocide, it will have implications for the united states as long mindful of its extensive aid to israel during this period. white truth is the us, not pressuring israel when it's not happy with what's going on as well. i don't so store that is not how because reality is, is that the earlier impression that the by mistake it was fine. just stop this but didn't have leverage. i don't think has been proven to be compatible. would it be out by didn't signed off to the is really ministry objective of eliminating

a months and wanted israel to do what to her mouse with united states could not do to the solid block because of that. she has to, in the way of any sheets by any attempt to bring the board to an end short of charge having and then the need to come off. and that's why i think we have to accept the united states as actions just for this policy. it is not trying to stop . so i, i know you want to come in. let me just try back to, to professor by got through. they do you do? what are the say something that, and i think you uh, is there is no doubt that the united states has a lot of leverage to us before in a, to as part. it is huge, but also it is important not on, but i still need is what are the last some of the country? and because what i use one was that it use companies that were and one of the strongest military paul, our ends. i made an east spend things our instructional paid quarter thoughts from

united states and basically like this feels like any country boss, what it believes is, and that's best and best at escalations. i know that he's getting, getting some people this is bad for the light to spirits, and i have no doubt that you liked disputes was to and so, or to minimize that getting golf innocent people tend is, there are many disagreements between us is, are you one of them about eliminating compass united states does not believe set, how much can be eliminated a mess as part of the finance. they've got a society messes up way to kind of military movement and, you know, like this feeds in my mind. the on the stands, that is why it was cannot be achieved from the i i you what if you wanted to come in there, but i'll, i'll ask you another question as well. blinking

a middle eastern countries to use their influence of a regional act is to ensure that the conflict is contained in order to prevent quote, an endless cycle of violence. but why? why put the onus on allies in the region when, as we were discussing, it's the us that holds the key here. if it code for a cease fire, put pressure on israel, it stopped using it to be 0 at 0 jones council and also stopped supplying as well with, with weapons. the violence within more or less immediately wouldn't get i i agree. and i think fundamentally try to sort of get it back in, and i actually agree i agree completely with to talk. but i also, i agree with professor, but i got that ultimately, this is the us administration that over the last 3 years has fundamentally mis understood all the regional plans act as in countries in the middle east. both africa, i'm just understood, the national security goals targets misunderstood the relationships between each of

the targets of relationships with the united states and by extension. what lincoln has been doing on this trip will do on this trip. and on previous trips and other visits from the secretary of defense and didn't succeed in the pos, from bill buttons. and others is really this a fundamental belief. but washington still has this region. revolt of foreign policy around washington not simply is not true any longer. it may have been true 20 years ago. it may have been true 5 to years ago. may even have been for 15 years ago. but over the last few years we've seen a real reckoning of that. a bold, independent farm policy emerge from individual countries. collectively is a region, there is a, a strong drive to look outwards. and the us is policies particularly minute train security policies have been found. one thing that in the fact that the us having served these countries with them, it with the national security interest in protecting them,

particularly for you to the last few years. and the precarious situation of relationships between our both countries, iran and all the spaces and primarily the u. s. has not been seen as a country that is willing to really come forward and put it back out and support the states, but it has the decades committed to supporting except as well. and since 1948, the instability in this region at his house comes down to the legal occupation of the palestinian people. it always has done. and america has regularly on the leadership failed to come to terms with that. one would argue, even the failure to enact what was agreed successfully at also and other major reflection points in this pulled up conflict over the last 75 years. and now it's no different. what are the, what president biden will sector of say, thinking i've been attempting to do with regionally does, is to bring them onto the same page as the united states,

which is to see this rule as an ex, essential process as well. to see the normal state taxes in the region of behaving, not in the national security and cost of public interest of this region, which they may very well be doing. however, when the us census warships into the mediterranean and creates these protection forces in the red sea deployed, it's navy to these areas. it's not received by any of these actors or even the court of public opinion as protection. oh, guardianship papers. i'd like to quoted it seen as publication, and i'm talking to them. i'm always seeing peace and i'll say doctor response to that professor, i saw you raise your your eyebrows at one point that i couldn't tell whether you what you were in a great mental illness, but, but do you want to come in? so yeah, if i may, i want to make it to a brief thoughts. is that 1st one, the 1st one is lower and it goes up on the scores that you liked. the space is by far. does that mean uh for the fall are uh, was great in for us. its got the ability to make diesel or it is an

authorized showing. it is not showing that it is not to appear on the, on the, on that everybody comes to washington. when sick of 30 blinking cost was that even if at all the pay is that the insurance it is, you would like to see its the 2nd point is uh, there is no doubt that uh, united states has gross sliced with you. but also as a conflict, and does that highlights that family are off eric, countries for the lobby? united states, united states has been across twice to us with the idea to got on to what you are, e to egypt, to almost all the countries is that each one that they have not been able to convince the administrations of partners that medical public to take even had that balanced approach was a conflict, and there are companies have to use that leverage. they have to loved the in more

effective way. is that medical people that administer shut on as a fungus to you? recently, most of the nation dot com, the president bite and refusal to pursue the most obvious way of the escalating tensions of avoiding american depths, such as cx, 5 and gaza. i'm do you oft, is israel going to drag the us into another ruinous regional bull? is it a well received today? bass is a. these are a few things we think buying to expand of war and some of it all dividing restriction does oppose that the buyer ministration is skeptical. is the article in washington post today about the intelligence assessment. all that a lot of these ability for as will to win such as homesick, edited by the restriction, says that from the very outset, these really have the incentive fact in the early stages of the 40 want it to go into the webinar right away. or the buyer is basically what it, that it seems,

however, that we're back to square one because these really are trying to do this to you was, does oppose it. but the question is, when the american offers dition to this the couple, would it be a question or will it continue? it should be what we have seen so far, which is that link and goes to the region and asks other countries to put pressure on hezbollah, on the whole things on the water, while the us that stuff does not put any material pressure as well. that equation will not work in the long run. we have back to being quite lucky still far that we haven't seen an estimate and have so in regards to the poor, a ceasefire. if you take a look at the uh, activities of documented issues, they attacked us troops 6 times the day before it is fine. but as soon as the ceasefire broke out, be a task for me to walk, you munitions went down 0 for 6 days. not a single attempt. even the whole cheese producer a tax,

it was only one attack doing that 6th period. the area that we can call the attribute to it's very clear the message from them is, is listening to what the who is in sales or say that they will seize the risk tax if there is a ceasefire. and even though the seems to be the easiest place to actually avoid an explanation, it's the one time that the buy ministration refuses to pursue, which goes back to my earlier point. there is a committed step by dividing registration to the destruction of a mouse, which is part of the reason i think that just we see the buying restriction, refusing even measures that would avoid the estimation departments that he wants to have. so we already know that that to the bank and secure a place from turkey as president though to want to use his country's influence to prevent the conflict. broadening for the other one is we know, as a harsh critic of washington's support, the israel's goals are campaigned. he's rebuffed to us pressure cut off suspected

from us funding, which flows through took you defending the group as legitimately elected, liberates of sufficing for the land. how sincere do you think was his pledge to use his influence to prevent this spiraling and what sort of reception is blinking gonna get when he lands and other regional capitals this week as well. i think the question really is, you know, going back to it to treat as point of what kind of leverage can you put to all these non state actors particularly when they have very clearly defined that red line site for engagement and part of what the us is failing to acknowledge is this is not just about is ralph designed to expand this conflict? this is about how much longer will the united states and that this will continue and effectively on the ground and the quest for palestinian statehood. because that will throw us into a perpetual cycle of finance. the insurgency of direct subaru in some acts

by these non state groups in the region bath could become a perpetual cycle that never ends in part of what is mind boggling if you gave washington the benefit of the doubt that it does not seek. that's and resolution is what, what does it seek? what does it seek to the, to, to achieve and what does it seek to achieve in this relationship with as well? what is it seeking to protect effectively, even for as well, the broader relationships that the regional policies at all, so either normalized or a peaceful allies or peaceful partners and neighbors of f as ralph what uh, what can they but what kind of parts of the relationship can be solved which stopped all of this beyond just looking at the pressure on a groups like how much has been lost, the policies and the has to shop being. i don't, i mean that ideology will, is,

is very clear off the red lines. and this complex has been very clear that that was all that's for the decades has been very clear. that's going to be very difficult to change. and you know, none of the people have lost and the response and the, all the stuff to coiling the power of these groups is to seek a 2 state solution. clearly that is not what is being sold through this, that this conflict through this escalation. yvonne as soon as i'm in my eye, that is round washington the united states and european allies. well, that then extends us to to ask is, what about the effect of other countries and what kind of reception does blink and receiving all the capitals? well, what kind of reception has he received in capitals in the last 8 to 12 weeks? it certainly hasn't been very prevalent. it certainly hasn't been very welcoming. he's been publicly rebuked by the foreign ministers of jordan of egypt. he was embarrassed by the crown prince of saudi arabia, all of this feeds into a broad, the quotes of public opinion. not just

a moment why anti american sentiment has been very high, and it's such a nice going high. but last americans, we will be seeing as much of this conflict on the screens here in the region. we can see me, it's still 247 is if it's october, 8th, the level of funding to you mentioned the um and you mentioned comes at the door who was, who was killed this afternoon. uh, buying this right. yes. right. i mean, this stuff is paying on all tv screens ranking to the arabs. social media is constant on this. yeah, sorry, i'm sorry to interrupt you, but we're almost out of time professor, i'll give you that. the last word a is this visit by blink into the region than anything? well, the cheap window dressing, i mean, is his diplomacy going to be going to be able to do anything to ease the place of the suffering and in gaza? is it going to bring about a c spot? is it going to be able to prevent this conflict from spiraling into a wider regional one?

you know, obviously to go see it. there's not the window dressing. it is because it's very complicated. it takes time and there is no guarantee use that between work and foxy and it is a force visit of the 2nd study and just few months. and it is also important is that countries like, is it, are you doing to the orthodontist from united states as egypt is all done. so there may be a total of them and 13, or then resistance american pressure. and i want to end on positive, you know, there is generation gas generation change in your life to seats young people in your life. this is all over america university has or given us 3. think again, this is already a saw. it is very sad. want this happening now. many innocent people are, are buying bought ins are longer on, i believe it is, it has

a change in the american popular opinion, and this would be reflected in that medical policy that i'm afraid we must end the program. any thanks indeed to what to all of you being with us today after the policy. how so? hello, and got backed off. that's my gosh. rather i'm sorry. as always, thank you for watching. don't forget, you can see the program again at any time by going to the websites of elder 0. don't com. for further discussion, join us on facebook page at facebook dot com forward slash h a inside story out. of course, you can join the conversation on x all handle at h, a inside story from the adrian said again to the team here. and so let's see again, 5 for the, the this horse was a non mark and a symbol beat from the remains of cars and ambulances. israel talking to during an invasion of things, you need refugee camp in 2002. now it's been removed by the way people do research,

and it shows us where this cultures to his power. he was involved in creating the destruction of one humans, aims to crush their spirit and punish those, showing support for any acts of resistance. had to choose his 5 year old son, add them both of them working on this culture and says the process tells a lot about that. i still need to, i guess. and again, i'm mary. i'm shaheen and i've been making films about since 2006 when i moved there in 2005, we recovering from the 38 your occupation by israel. people were hopeful that their lives would improve their dreams of and destroyed. and all that remains are echoes of the last chapter dreams on l. g 0. we will never can see that doesn't happen. our country is out enough. we will not

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