is teresa katara for a records are touring the 2014 the smoking piece, including house and defending champions, cuts our son, humans, south korea and palestine who will place despite the war back home? well, t v right across the actions out the tournament, the hazy house on al jazeera, the us at 1st i hemsley blinking this back in the middle east for his 5th visit since israel begun its war on guns at his previous trips, didn't bring any respite for palestinians on the bombardment. so what's the purpose of this business? this is inside story, the hello welcome to the program. i'm adrian instead of going us secretary of state,

actually blinking his back in the middle east. as israel is wall on gaza rages on. nearly 23000 palestinians have been killed and tens of thousands injured since early october. many of the weapons used to kill them on fucking much of guns that were supplied by the united states just over a week ago as blank and was preparing for this trip. he approved an emergency measure, bypassing congress to supply more tank shells to israel. the state department says, but among the ames of lincoln's trip, is in part to help civilians stand violence and reduce regional tension. but how will he achieve this or is this? was it more about pay off the reality with exp all those issues with i guess in just a moment, but 1st the report from katia lopez hold i on the top us diplomat has traveled to the middle east 5 times in 3 months. anthony blankets late as tor comes as fears rise the israel's or ongoing could ignite

a wider regional conflict. a big part of the conversations will be happening over the coming days. with all of our all as partners is looking at the steps that they can say using the influence advised that they have to do just that, to make sure that this conflict doesn't spread. despite the huge death told in garza, the us has continued to be, israel's biggest fac, are providing billions of dollars worth of military aden weapons and vetoing a un resolution for an immediate cease fire. critics. a washington has not changed the intensity of israel's attacks. this administration has put forward no red lines, no ultimatums, there's been no condition except aid. none of that. so i do think that this gate arctic situation in the region which can always get further out of control has a lot to do with the policies of the by the need ministration negotiations to

secure the release of as really cap. this is unblinking agenda also on the list, he says are finding ways to deliver more food fuel in medicine and to goes up with more than 2000000 palestinians displaced. it's not clear what difference is blinking to visit will make no sense, but so solid, beautiful to get stupid stunt in line, and go around looking for a way to find water for the children. we have so many problems in the camp, there is no water. no surface, no medical attention or hygiene tensions between washington and to ron are also on folding in the red sea, ran back to the rebels, have attacked commercial vessels for weeks away. they say to pressure israel to stop. it's for ongoing. so and now 3 months since a, israel's bombing of the strip lincoln's visit will test the power of diplomacy. and then they also give more insight into the extent the us as prepared to go in

packing. israel caught see a little bit so the again, alger 0 for insights. story on the day of lincoln's visit, the cost of the home of the out a 0 network. israel targeted on killed comes out of to the surviving son of i was just, it was bureau chief in guns a while. i'll talk to who already lost most of his family members in, in this rainy strike. back in october, terms of targeted, kidding. pulled a strong response from contrast minister of state for international cooperation, lola rashid out contra, who condemned to quote, the brutal occupation machine of everyone who contributed and to read of the. all right, let's bring it out. yes. for today's discussion, for breast and in virginia, with joined by sort of policy, executive vice president of the quincy institute for responsible statecraft from you by have so hello, an independent consultant who works on political social economic affairs across

that at least north africa on the horn of africa and in washington, dc, god by god, professor of national security affairs of the national defense universities near east south asia center for strategic study, a warm welcome to you all. before we talk about enter the blankets visit to the region. i just want to take a moment to address the targeted killing of homes that talk to some of our guns, a bureau chief wild f 2 on the very day the lincoln arrives in castle at our previous visit's pipeline. kind of go and started with major is really actions against palestinians. back in october, we'll have a 1000000 palestinians order to leave northern garza, well lincoln was in israel. an explosion along one of the so called safe routes, killed 70 people a few days later on october 17th is really a tax on the i'll actually baptist hospital killed $471.00 people during yet another blinking visit in november. israel talking to you and run school in the

jabante, a refugee camp, at least 15 people were killed, thousands more were injured. at the end of the brief 6 fire descend, the israel resumed its attacks. its forces increased the strikes in the southern gaza strip of the day off the secretary of state and to the blinking, urged israel to do more to protect civilians. and now during clinton's latest visit . but some of our gossip bureau chief comes out of who has been killed find his randy, strike in southern guns, a trip to it, i think is what he's trying to send. some sort of message he had to think of this can't be just coincidence, kind of it certainly doesn't come across as a correspondence. and it's very clear that the number of gentlemen, skilled in this complex far exceed dot or any other recent call more than a 100 so far. and i think it's also effective reporting coming out of guys in the sense that we're seeing less to images less reporting precisely because those who can report a bit of silence given the fact that there is

a these are resisting even the very limited fashion that binding is putting on that in regards to how to handle the war and garza, it wouldn't be surprising is dishes, warm up their assets to the wife before i get it arrives in i did reach it in order to stake, know how much they will resist. any effort by the, by and especially, that doesn't come with clear pressure such as putting the aid to israel to make it contingent upon them living up just didn't stand as long as there's no real pressure. it seems that these raiders will continue to be in this way. we will discuss what comes up to the pressure of what pressure can be applied to these radius in just a few moments. but for us to help set a blank and says, but he'll be looking at what can be done to maximize the protection of civilians in gaza and increase deliveries of humanitarian assistance. but with all the 22000

debt. now many of the women and children does that ring hollow to you? it's, it's a little too late, isn't this as well? i think it's not just too little tonight, adrian and thank you very much for having me. i think it's also completely false. nothing in the us is a real policy actions beyond such a double speak that we see your tweets that are written by the teams that have everybody from the secretary state to the president of united states. and other members of the government seems to signal that there was any material pressure on these realm of just to a, to protect, to civilians or to prevent this level of civilian death. but also the fact to bring this will to any kind of conclusion or to hold the current, i'll send it to you, the receipt and ink also on the west bank on 5 east jerusalem at the end of the day . nothing, as we've seen since, some type of say, and then from anyone in the sick ministration signals that the us has anything bought supportive of this war. and really the red line seemed to hinge on how much

they're willing to box the expansion of this conflict by as well. professor, i got it just a week ago as we were hearing blink, and approve the sales with ram of a 155 millimeter artillery shells and related equipment. determining that the emergency required the immediate, say of israel that by waving congressional review requirements. and yet here he is in the region supposedly to, to piece, i mean, this visit reeks of hypocrisy. and also there's a, the united states has built a consistent policy to stop as a war. and it is important to point out that is the lesson plan to united states and in american media. lately, they highlighted some kind of disagreement between boston administration and the

apartment of that then yahoo and hired people. so it is important to understand that as difference between private, the policy and public diplomacy or the united states government that will not tend to uh, go into a lot of company at all. and then as all you box, my understanding, send your medicare, don't fish as wednesday need towards that or is that all you did call the top box is a push as hard as they can to use smart wickland to minimize executives of the innocent people because escalation is aggie and this is that us national headquarters to the what, what do you make of that? does the us have any sway over the is where the government any leverage a tool or given what we were hearing that from, from the professor him. and he said that israel just isn't listening to,

to the west, to what extent is the kind of situation directly the fault of the pipe administration's policy? how much of the blame for the current suffering in casa does the us have to that? well, these really are not listening because they don't fast and this is because the united states is not making that this. the idea that the united states is much tougher. in 5, it may be true, but it's not popping up because we're not see any effects. the reality is united states has a tremendous amount of leverage, is choosing not to use united states as ship and 1000 tops of weapons and ammunition to israel since the beginning of this war, according to these really major general in an interview last long made it very clear if the united states were just false, that if the weapons and ammunition to visual is or will not be able to continue this fine, it's very clear that you know, it's just positive or choosing not to use it. and that raises the question that you

just asked to what extent is that the united states also responsible for the killings that are taking place right now? and i think divided registration is somewhat nervous as they should be about the complaint of the, the south african come, a government, excusing israel of genocide and taking this to the international court just isn't as found to be guilty of genocide. it will have implications for being out of state as long as mindful of it's an extensive aid to israel doing this theory. white truth is the us, not pressuring israel when it's not happy with what's going on as well. i don't so store that is not how because reality is, is that the earlier the impression that the by mistake it was fine. just stop this . what didn't happen? that was, i don't think has been proven to be compatible with the biden signed off to the is

really ministry objective of eliminating a months and wanted israel to do what to her mouse with united states could not do to the solid block because of that he has to in the way of any sheets by any attempt to bring the war to an end should of course, having and then the need to come off. and that's why i think we have to accept the united states as actions just part of his policy. it is not trying to stop. so i, i know you want to come in. let me just try back to, to professor by got through. they do you do? what are the say something that, and i think you uh, is there is no doubt that the united states has a lot of leverage to us before in a, to as part. it is huge, but also it is important not on, but i still need is what are the last some of the country? and because what i use one was that i choose companies that were, and one of the strongest military paul, our ends. i made an east spend the ends, our is our instructional paid quarter thoughts from united states.

and basically like this feels like any country boss, what it believes is, and that's best and best. and it's getting assurance that he's getting, getting some people this is bad for the light to spirits, and i have no doubt that you liked disputes was to and so, or to minimize that getting golf innocent people. and there are many disagreements between us is, are you, one of them about eliminating compass? united states does not believe said how much can be eliminated. a mess as part of the finance. they've got a society messes up way to kind of military will vent and you know, like this feeds in my mind the on the stands that is right. it was, cannot be achieved. perhaps i, i knew what you wanted to come in that, but i'll,

i'll ask you another question as well. blinking a middle eastern countries to use their influence of a regional act is to ensure that the conflict is contained in order to prevent quote, an endless cycle of violence. but why? why put the onus on allies in the region when, as we were discussing, it's the us that holds the key here. if it code for a cease fire, put pressure on israel, it stopped using it to be 0 at 0 jones council and also stopped supplying as well with, with weapons. the violence within more or less immediately wouldn't get i agree and i think fundamentally try to sort of get it back in. and i actually agree i agree completely with to talk. but i also, i agree with professor, but i got that ultimately, this is the us administration that over the last 3 years has fundamentally mis understood all the regional plans act as in countries in the middle east. both africa understood the national security goals. targets misunderstood the

relationships between each of the targets of relationships with the united states and by extension. what lincoln has been doing on this trip will do on this trip and all previous trips and other visits from the secretary of defense and didn't succeed in the pos, from bill buttons. and others is really this a fundamental belief. but washington still has this region. revolt of foreign policy around washington not simply is not true any longer. it may have been true 20 years ago. it may have been true site to years ago. may even have been for 15 years ago. but with the last few years, we've seen a real reckoning of that a pull, the independent farm policy emerge from individual countries. collectively, as a region, there is a, a strong drive to look outwards. and the us is policies, particularly as minute train security policies have been found. one thing that in the fact that the us having served these countries with them, it with the national security interest in protecting them,

particularly for you to the last few years. and the precarious situation of relationships between our both countries, iran and all the spaces and primarily the u. s. has not been seen as a country that is willing to really come for them, but it's not cap and support the states, but it has the decades committed to supporting except as well. and since 1948, the instability in this region at his house comes down to the legal occupation of the palestinian people. it always has done. and america has regularly on the leadership failed to come to terms with that. one would argue, even the failure to enact what was agreed successfully at also and other major reflection points in this pulled up conflict over the last 75 years. and now it's no different. what are the, what president biden will actually say? thinking i've been attempting to do with regionally does is to bring them onto the same page as the united states, which is to see this rule as an ex,

essential process as well. to see the normal state taxes in the region of behaving, not in the national security and cost of public interest of this region, which they may very well be doing. however, when the us census warships into the mediterranean and creates these protection forces in the red sea deployed, it's navy to these areas. it's not received by any of these actors or even the court of public opinion as protection. oh, guardianship papers. i'd like to quoted it seen as publication, and i'm talking to them. i'm always seeing peace and i'll say doctor response to that professor, i saw you raise your your eyebrows at one point that i couldn't tell whether you what you were in a great mental illness, but, but do you want to come in? so yeah, if i may, i want to make a 2 brief thoughts. is that 1st one, the 1st one is lower and it goes up on the scores that you liked. the space is by far. does that mean uh for the fall are uh, was great in for us. its got the ability to make diesel or it is an

authorized showing. it is not showing that it is not to appear on the, on the, on that everybody comes to washington. when sick of 30 blinking cost was that even if at all the pay is that the insurance it is, you don't like this. the it's, the 2nd point is uh, there is no doubt that the united states has gross slice with you, but also as a conflict. and does that highlights the affinity are off eric countries for the lobby you liked the states? united states has been a girl sliced to us with the idea to got on to what you are, e to egypt to almost all the countries is that each one that they have not been able to convince administrations, the congress that medical public to take even had that balanced approach was a conflict, and there are companies have to use that leverage. they have to lock the in more

effective way. is that medical people that administer shut on as a fungus to you? recently most of the nation dot com. uh, the president biden refused to pursue the most obvious way of de escalating tensions of avoiding american death, such as sci fi and gaza. and the last is israel gonna drag the us to, to another ruinous regional ball? is it as well? we see today bass is a, these are a few things we think buying to expand of war and some of it all dividing restriction does oppose that the buyer ministration is skeptical. is the article in washington post today about the intelligence assessment. all the nazis ability for as will to win such as homesick, edited by the restriction, says that from the very outset, these really have the intended fact in the early stages of the 40 want it to go into the webinar right away. or the buyer is basically what it, that it seems,

however, that we're back to square one because these really are trying to do this to us, does oppose it. but the question is, when the american offers dition to this the couple, would it be a question or will it continue? it should be what we have seen so far, which is that link and goes to the region and asks other countries to put pressure on hezbollah, on the whole things on the water, while the us that stuff does not put any material pressure, israel, that equation will not work in the long run. we have back to being quite lucky so far that we haven't seen an estimate and have so in regards to the poor, a ceasefire. if you take a look at the uh, activities of documented issues, they attacked us troops 6 times the day before it is fine. but as soon as this, these fire broke out, be attached for me to walk, you munitions went down 0 for 6 days, not a single time. even the whole cheese producer attacks was only one attack during

that 6 period. the area that we can call the attribute to it's very clear, the message from them is, is listening to what the who is in sales. i say that they will sees the risk tax if there is a ceasefire. and even though the seems to be the easiest place to actually avoid an explanation, it's the one time that the buy ministration refuses to pursue, which goes back to my earlier point. there is a committed step by dividing registration to the destruction of a mouse, which is part of the reason i think that just we see the buyer ministration refusing even measures that would avoid the estimation defines that he wants to have. so we already know that the to the plane can secure a place from turkey as president, though to want to use his country's influence to prevent the conflict broadening further. but the other one is, we know, as a harsh critic of washington's support, the israel's goals are campaigned. he's rebuffed to us pressure,

a cut off suspected from us funding, which flows through took you, defending the group as legitimately elected liberator, sufficing for the land. how sincere do you think was his pledge to use his influence to prevent this spiraling and what sort of reception is blinking gonna get when he lands and other regional capitals this week as well. i think the question really is, you know, going back to it to treat as point of what kind of leverage can you put to all these non state actors particularly when they have very clearly defined that red line site for engagement and part of what the us is failing to acknowledge is this is not just about is ralph designed to expand this conflict? this is about how much longer will the united states and that this will continue and effectively on the ground and the quest for palestinian statehood. because that will throw us into a perpetual cycle of finance. the insurgency of direct subaru and some acts

by these non state groups in the region bath could become a perpetual cycle that never ends in part of what is mind boggling if you gave washington the benefit of the doubt that it does not seek. that's and resolution is what, what does it seek? what does it seek to, to, to achieve and what does it seek to achieve in this relationship with as well? what is it seeking to protect effectively, even for as well, the broader relationships that the regional policies at all, so either normalized or a peaceful allies or peaceful partners and neighbors of f as ralph what uh, what can they but what kind of parts of the relationship can be solved which stopped all of this beyond just looking at the pressure on a groups like how much has been lost, the policies and the has to shop being. i don't, i mean that ideology will, is,

is very clear off the red lines. and this complex has been very clear that that was all that's for the decades has been very clear. that's going to be very difficult to change. and you know, none of the people have lost and the response and the, all the stuff to coiling the power of these groups is to seek a 2 state solution. clearly that is not what is being sold through this, that this conflict through this escalation. yvonne as soon as i'm in my eye, that is round washington the united states and european allies. well, that then extends us to to ask is, what about the effect of other countries and what kind of reception does blink and receiving all the capitals? well, what kind of reception has he received in capitals in the last 8 to 12 weeks? it certainly hasn't been very prevalent. it certainly hasn't been very welcoming. he's been publicly rebuked by the foreign ministers of jordan of egypt. he was embarrassed by the crown prince of saudi arabia, all of this feeds into a broad, the quotes of public opinion. not just

a moment why anti american sentiment has been very high, and it's such a nice going high. but last americans, we will be seeing as much of this conflict on the screens here in the region we consuming, it's still 247 is if it's outside the 8th, the level of funding to you mentioned the um and you mentioned comes at the top who was who was killed this afternoon? buying? that's right. yes. right. i mean this stuff is paying on all tv screens ranking to the arabs. social media is constant on this. yeah. sorry, i'm sorry to interrupt you, but we're almost out of time professor. i'll give you the last word a is this, does it by blink into the region than anything? well, the cheap window dressing, i mean, is his diplomacy going to be going to be able to do anything to ease the place of the suffering and in gaza? is it going to bring about a c spot? is it going to be able to prevent this conflict? from spiraling into a wider regional one. you know,

obviously to go see it. there's not the window dressing it is because it's very complicated. it takes time and there is no guarantee use that between work and foxy and it is a force visit of the 2nd study and just few months. and it is also important is that countries like, is it, are you doing to the orthodontist from united states as egypt is all done. so there may be a total of them and 13, or then there's a sense america restaurant. and i want to end on post, even though there is generation gas generation change in your life to seats young people in your life. this is all over america. university has a different, a straight thing. again, this is already a saw. it is very sad. want this happening now. many innocent people are buying bought ins are longer on, i believe it is, it has

a change in the american popular opinion, and this would be reflected in that medical policy that i'm afraid we must end the program any thanks indeed to what to all of you being with us today, after the policy hasa hello and got backed off. that's my gosh. rather i'm sorry. as always, thank you for watching. don't forget you can see the program again at any time by going to the websites and i'll just here, i don't. com for further discussion join us on facebook page at facebook dot com, forward slash age i inside story out of course, you can join the conversation on x all handle at h a inside story from the adrian instead of going to the team here. and so let's see again, 5 for the, the slaving under the hot sun. collecting a limitless energy sauce, their own tri, hoses down the soda panels on his roof for decades. the number line on diesel shipped in a great expense with crowns from the australian government. the island built itself

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