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run in groups see against the backdrop of course of the war garza and with the faith of friends and family on their minds. trying to go throughout school reports for use palestine. football is have overcome adversity to play for the country. but the build up to this asian cop has been even honda because of the war and garza, the challenges are getting the team together. because some players live in the spring summer from guys who are living abroad. some are in europe, asia, as we were just all over the place. many of the players in the team are playing in the policy and leave. and they haven't played a match since just as we can before the war started unable to train in palestine. this quote has been preparing for the tournament in algeria and saudi arabia. but there's a constant feeling of anxiety about what is happening back home. israel's attacks have left members of palestine football family dead, including players, referees,
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administrators, and most recently one of the countries and then pick football coaches to have a clear hear from guys a who's in the message for his family before 10 days. and he did the answers today, a life time, the so like the 3 signatures to the friends sometimes know the answer about that. so we like everyone, we see the media because the friends didn't answer every time. whitfield in mohammed bus and rashid was born in ramallah, grew up in the us and now placed professionally in indonesia. he says the play as a felt growing support from funds wherever they've been. it's very important because we're seeing that the people are more passionate about palestine. now they're more passionate, but i'm assuming national team is just set to see that something this tragic has happened for people to feel for us a little bit. and that support doesn't stop in this done middle organizes here in castle say they'll donate revenue from ticket sales for the asian cup to,
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to those affected by the war on cause that. and they'll also be sharing messages of support for the palestinians throughout the tournaments. palestine the aiming to get out of the group, say to the 1st time in this that the parents of the continental show piece. and perhaps even get the 1st ever asian come victory. but even if they don't, there's a sense of purpose amongst the players to provide a moments of risk like to those back time, 90 minutes at a time. during the guy's real sca out to 0 though. and that's it from the serial then yea, as always, our website now says 0 dot com carries all our latest news i call the roadmap as it will be here in around 30 minutes with news our own house 0 to state the it was never good to see that doesn't happen, our country is out enough. we will not take it at
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a bar 3 years after protest as storm to the capital. the new race for the white house begins in iowa as republican candidates, once again bethel trump, for the nomination, stay with alpha 0, so the us election 20246 weeks after her. mazda is a tax on october 7th. israel continues, it's been barred meant and siege of 1000. while israel's response has had the full support of the majority of european countries. some dissenting voices are making themselves heard and calling forth these fights. so what role is your playing in the israel does a war and how has it support for israel changed over time? our last renown economist and former greek finance minister, just verify in an upfront special the. yeah, those are factors. thank you so much for joining me. on upfront, it has been 6 weeks since a mazda is attacked on october 7th, and the start of israel's been barred meant of gaza. the vast majority of european
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governments were unequivocally supportive of israel, as well as its response. but in recent days, belgium's deputy prime minister is called for sanctions against israel and french or president emmanuel. my crown has called to quote work towards a ceasefire. are we seeing a shift and the positions of european governments tragically? he's a stake in more than $11000.00 deaths, to see a minute shift a shift, which is so late coming and so small that as you opinions, we should hand our heads and shame hang our heads in shame. what they think should have been the initial response that go on october 8th, what should the european union wish and you're paying? states have been saying the thing that logic dictates which is to be young condemnations. we all condemn war crimes, welcome them. horrible, horrible things that have been done to these regular citizens,
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to die citizens by hamas, to palestinians by separate us in the west bank. but, you know, let's move on beyond contamination because we, europeans have created this problem. we've created centers on the semitism problems against the people of the game or did you know the from that land, the jews and then we subjected them to the holocaust. then we support that, the violating dogma or the victim of a land without the people for the people without the land as if by the sign was empty of people. this is settled, a white supremacist language. the british used as an australia to declare australia that and will use an empty land and the people who don't just to buy the genocide ofa the ability gene is in australia and not just and distributed in gania they did in south africa. and you know, in the 19 twenty's inside of this,
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the process begun by which europe we're starting to get the read off. it's got over the programs against the jews. maybe get rid of the jews from you by supporting a general side against the police thing is this time victim? not to be this has been going on for a d a. so what's the happened at the beginning of october? so for anybody simple, we should have demanded the end of the state of our card, which creates 2 different regal systems on the same small part of land between 2 different peoples that is, or the source or for the violence, violence for decades. we have a prime minister in that israel, who's a zone, but the whole point of his existence was to destroy the peace process that i have. who has one objective and likes to make sure that there is never
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a 2 state solution. the solution, the jo, bites and advocates among them are on the advocates. so this is what we should have them call them all acts of violence and at the same time say to both sides to both extremes. we're not going to tolerate this. there's going to be a peace process under the united nations. there's going to be a complete clump of down all kinds of vitamins, whether it's simpler virus of the west bank by users, or how much volume is again, just varies. and we're going to sort this mess out once in vo. well, europe and commission president ursula bundle in propose a kind of vision and moving forward that engages some of the ideas that you just mentioned. uh, she offered 5 principals to guide the future of the guys and strip. those include no safe haven for terrace, no harm, athletic government, no long term is really security presence. no force displacement of palestinians and no sustained block a. what do you make of the proposal and does it fully represent uh,
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what the european people want were missing? so some of the presents no one she essentially violated on principles of european democratic process by trying to is row and effectively cheerleading. they what kinds of pieces are in the guys asleep? as for the precise proposal, which comes, i have to say that we have a duty not to take me just for the lie and say seriously, damn 25, the movement that i'm part of. we have a component and the petition for heading move will end dismissal. she's an embarrassment to get a being. she doesn't speak for you to be and she shouldn't be that should we should get through to her as quickly as possible. having said that, let's take the 5 points. you mentioned, essentially what she's doing is she's playing the game. well, one thing out of the story that the stage solution by isolating gaza from the boulder problem, or how to have 2 states living side by side. or if we want to be more
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humanist and more them vicious, to talk about a single state that the secular and does not discriminate between jews and, and, and by the stance. she doesn't do that. she said that is as well and said that's fine, that sort of people guys know that sort of thing for the type state in westbank because you say allow me to ask you to go to the question, what if i'm us where to just disappear? yeah. signed to the idea today, what happens then? what happens with the west bank, where we have settlers, as we speak, of throwing out the rising, killing, murdering maiming palestinians and throwing them off their i'm system lamps. you have about a stimulus already that has been completely accumulated and deprived of annual thought of you over the west bank. and you have a government which clearly says that they are going to antics the whole thing from the able to the see what this is from the like in suggestion for that just be with
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the guys. and that is to become the useful idiot of many. i mean, the thing out that's home is what's left. one of the land is that's why we, europeans must band together and get through the earlier you talked about it, your long history and hatred of jews. the prosecution and persecution of use violence against use is this holocaust guilt that leads to this place of sort of not pushing back sufficiently against israel's policies and practices. i'm asking it partly because there's a, a poll conducted by political in 2021, but found that 41 percent of those polled and you've agreed that quote against the background of the history of the holocaust, europe. there's a special responsibility for israel in a 39 percent disagree, but 20 percent don't know me. that's a sizable number of people. and so it makes me wonder if that informs their decision to not some more strongly condemned israel's actions. possibly yes. there
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is a very good reason why we hear appearance, bad the guilt over the holocaust. it is because we are responsible for it. not just the german ethics. the cut off and that's is the greek not say is uh, the getty and not just the french nets or the collaborators. we'll play a small button up individually. but in terms of our culture, in terms of our nations, in uh, that uniquely even event in history, in the history of the world books, humanity, all the holocaust. but the question i put to my family get opinions, especially with my german friends. and i mean that those friends is this, how far must easily those ethnic cleansing of the palestinians proceed before our justified guilt over the holocaust no longer prevents us from challenging is the ethnic cleansing of the body standing. and so to put it
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a bit more brutally how much published in black do we need to wash off the guilt of the holocaust to the supervisor? and, and the question, uh well, we have to have masses attack on is really civilians you refuse to condemn either from us gordon that in yahoo, committing atrocities across israel, palestine instead of condemning either you condemned europeans and americans as you're doing very much today as the true villains who have been, quote, making peace, impossible in israel palestine isn't really fair to offset all of these war crimes born to the west. however guilty, we all may be shooting horizon is really government also be held accountable for their actions. of course they shouldn't be, but allow me to say that the i am going to be in, if i were indian or chinese or south africa, or like an american, i wouldn't be saying what i said. but i think it'll be, and i am refusing to play the phone, the game, the other europeans play, especially i've got what comes in sending. they're looking at the people who are
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now suffering both israelis and palestinians and veterans. and there was in the land of engine by this time single. what do we get or bands do you know, we look down upon those people say, oh, you know you, i mean most, you're killing each other. we're going to condemn you whether we condemn you know, the last week or the 2nd is well, the thing out, hold a pillow in the end, we, europeans look down upon them. i think we are superior. we're not superior. with infinity to me inferior. we of a centralized, have created colonialism. we have created the semi peers. we have created the mentality of imperialism. we are behind the mass that goes to the being carried out by both sides. so we are the last people on this planet. it is going to reveal started the, the model, the right of the high ethical standards that's with allow us to bound up on these
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people and condemn them. i'm not going to play this game anymore. i called them everywhere. okay? but you know what? those who say to me why you don't come down, you have, as i said to them, when you lost your opportunity to, to ask me this question. the moment you waiting to condemn the coming of. i'm jealous by this thing in general, unless nobody's to be in general. this is a legitimate list is riley joyce, beside the wrist to the women. old man, you lost the moment that you forgot you neglected to condemn that at this stuff. they. this condemnation gave me any more. let jessica with us quickly. the very simple question. do we or do you not want to see from the verdict of a c? and i use this expression product that we do. we want to see from the i don't care about is the by this thing or anything. do we want to see people who live without
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the fear of being killed with a, quote, civil and political rights. what has happened to the united states in particular? have we forgotten the great civil rights marches in this night? these 6? this? why can't we have the same mentality about the line, define this thing and start with one assumption that should be coming amongst civilized women, men transgender. whatever we happen to be, and that is that there should be no discrimination, no apart hide in that bland how we're going to work it up. whether it will be 2 states, multi ethnic states sitting side by side, one state for everyone that doesn't discriminate between jews between those palestinians, adams and so on. i don't care. let's begin with this. in the past few weeks, these things and the biggest pro palestine march has ever recorded both in europe and in the united states. has there been a shift in the public's attitude towards palestinians and if so,
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would this lead to any kind of substantive government positions changing? not really. what do we have seen? is it through our expression of the feelings out there in the communities? the people who are viewed up in the majority have traditionally traditionally recognized the ethnic cleansing of the palestinians. since the not box is $94.00, that the majority of the french, the majority of the germans, the majority of the greeks, we always understood because as they always think about the sense that there was an attempt ethnically cleanse the people that do not see our governments shifting fast enough so that we would be able in the future to answer our grandchildren when they ask us, what did you do when the thousands of children in guys that were being much that good in cold blood? what some governments have done and response has been to ban protesting, france,
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germany hungry, austria have all been solidarity protests with palestine. other european leaders of tried to deal legitimize them, framing them all as anti semitic, or extreme missed events. one german m p even suggest is stripping non e u nationals of their right to protest. but how dangerous is this backlash for european civil rights and the global policy? i mean rights movement as a whole. we're look mouse, answer your person in question with an example. a few days ago, a friend who happens to be and he's writing to who lives in berlin. the stock is very good for me. the german constitution. the stop is what kind of constitutional rights as it has been of germany, actually discovered that the police cannot bind her from doing it. one person demonstrates that is standing in the middle of a square with
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a pack of which red as any is riley. and does it do i say stop the general side of things and she was arrested need i say more, the moment we allow this to happen. the moment to allow our police force upon them . it's our instruments and organs of a state to the end is that i really do in the middle of believing that she's being asked that because of the expression of a view which was not even spoken, but it was written on a blackboard that is a very slippery slope to, to do things more bit and disseminate this. here you have a white german police when i think a jewish woman who happens to be very as well in but i mean, and the 2nd thing that happens is the end of civil liberties, photos. sophia october 7th. the tax has also been
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a rise in anti semitism across europe. we've seen by the top cocktails thrown on a synagogue in germany. we since stars of david sprayed on residential buildings in france. there was a jewish cemetery desecrate in austria. this is all very worry some stuff. however, some accusations of anti semitism have been against people who are simply criticising israel's human rights. reckon, for example, in response to amnesty international stating that war crimes had been committed by all parties lawyer had this. what's the reason for these really ministry of foreign affairs called an amnesty, international anti semitic, and a quote propaganda organization that's working for him as terrorists? how does one thread the needle between dismissing the idea that all support for palestine is anti semitic? without the legitimize of the fact that there is a very real rise in anti semitic hate. crimes against jewish people going on. right? as we speak, whenever you have a tragedy, like the one on folding in the line to further sign easily. i have today the ex
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things out of a great beneficiaries. on the one hand, the gross of the some lights, and all the other hand, the gross. i hate no hate that it's about a stance. allow me to answer by means of a person story. i grew up in a fascist dictatorship, heating grace, weird cut on those. i think the ministry's they web abominable, they were imprisoning. good democrats. we lived in fear for 7 years, only, only a part of my life. now, whenever of a sudden the gentleman chancellor, other time really brant great man, criticized the government. he was being accused by the greek freshest, empower in athens as being on the greek. and ms has a mixed right to the court made up of december. uh whenever
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a greek confronted the fascist government visits and flashes government talked to him. i talked about him as a greek hating greek. this is what we have now happening across the what there is a concert, the propaganda effort to identify, to equate opposition to the thing act was fascist government and to the archive state the t has sex. so successfully creative with of december the moment and you can relate to the to an objection to f process. the research team which addresses jewish intellectuals, democrats, just as much as the openness is anyone else. the moment you identify that group as of others seem without the same it isn't that, is that great this victory of, of the so much and go back to the previous example with the eighty's have it's
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the 2nd list, the, the one that i referred to in berlin, the is early jewel that was that i sent for protesting is that the height of somebody sent me. it has to have a white gentleman, police officer at ice thing, and he's really do involving now a lot of yours. as far right parties are providing unequivocal support for israel at the moment with those same parties often have a deep and long history of anti semitism. themselves, for example, you have a marine, the pins, national riley party in france, which fully supported israel, but the party was founded by a former ss number and another founder depends on file that was convicted for minimizing the whole cause. it many a point it towards someone trends and on the far right parties in hungry and in poland and other places. how do you make sense of these trends we're far right? parties have is incredibly powerful pro israel views,
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but also in the deep histories of anti semitism. what is it, what right to nominate and it happens getting police do we have not says who are complaining actively on of the sent me to throw cuz they were even saving those disgusting pamphlets in volumes about c on and so on. the conspiracy theories are against the jews, and now they can, you know, they are waiting these rarely flag and acting on the idea of to kill as many as soon as possible. you have this in the united states. you have an event jellicoe movement which is explaining the right wing it was extremely embassy, might take for 200 years in the united states. and suddenly they have made the extreme design. they position their masonic position where by gold, supposedly he's going to reappear in the line to follow stein and that needs that needs, that makes it necessary to expands all the palestinians from the blonde. this is
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a was wiping them, and it's very an interesting one. i think that, you know, since you all are just side kind of at least side guy, but he's going to have a nice day for the next time that he is expedited. but what, what do we see? what we see is, you see, that's what really very simple, a flip of a switch from a rabbit. understand that isn't to wrap it in symbol. it's not my fault because in the end what the out that i means is a group of people to be more nice. it's so happened that it was the jews. now it can be anything. it's going to be the syrians and can be the palestinians and could be, you know, the belgians, it doesn't really matter. they need a scape goat. they need to be able to point other people to say if these people with advocated like would be here. this is what gibs did in the 19 twenties and $0.90 so successfully with the jews being targeted and being the victims. today's happening friends by the
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same people we're targeting the jews. they are now targeting the audience, americans and so on. so the greatest enemy is a fascism that requires scape gods. the fact that the goal, the flip flop between different target groups, is notation. i wanna ask you about something else of european countries have long been involved with sending weapons to israel. the back home international peace research institute found that italy and germany have supplied israel's military with crucial weapons and equipment that is now being used on the ground in gaza. the u. k. has helped both of these really air force while germany has sent tank stage real as well. but there's a lot of awareness of u. s. military aid to israel. we talk about it all the time. we talked with the billions that we send. but how underplayed is europe's direct military assistance to israel severely. and it takes 2 forms. you
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mentioned one form selling is a weapon. this is the 2nd phone buying weaponry from you, sir, because it is a major producer of a weapon as well. and not just the lease of weaponry, but also spyware. think of it or so my government hitting raise the, the government of the 75, because i oppose they purchased better though. they've used it against their political opponents. they didn't even use it despite one on one another. so is this location in the international trade or surveillance? and lisa weaponry is, is a very important location. and you to is an active support. the place now to those who are watching us and within yes, but you must have is a survive. my message to you folks is, is a, is not in danger. how mass?
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yes, they have a capacity to inflict a lot of pain on these are, but it is not a present and clear danger for these early state is a is a tremendously powerful state. it's a nuclear state. it's called an ami onto the thief and technologically and good to be advised. there is no way that these really amik a news to anyone. only the palestinians being ethnic cleansed and they are very clear guidelines by the israeli government, supported by the west to get rid of them fully to it at the gave them from the gaza strip from east jerusalem and from the west bank, you know, his backpack is thank you so much for joining me in upfront. appreciate your insights is always i think it's all right, that is our show upfront. we'll be back later this week.
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the parents have been going off of the full just looking 20 kilometers in many areas. how does the news continues to define their basic needs to live? certainly here. most of them are to some of the rumbling that happening. now i'm not is outgoing, considering from here to the 11 east side. there is new, any place in gaza is considered to be safe, needs in the north for the south, and north in your and shelters or in hospitals. hod hit and interviews as a un ambassador position given to you by or does have both. you've described that
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is better than that and any thoughts provided? hang on my question to you. all that good groups i think is the most difficult question. i've had to answer facing realities, usb tote. in the security council, this is something they just don't think look is a problem to access it. you hear the story on talk to how does era what constitutes exempt. so we generally talk to a see, i want you to start with just the facts runs through what happened as independent. we won't be, we want the education i want to we don't have to leave them in the policy. um, it's meant to get 50 percent representation and accountability benefits. no 1000 service this placement and you're saying you're reports for that. i should just trust the community often as the
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cool that to produce outstanding jen. this them out as the integrity in the pursuit of the the hello, i'm about this and this has been used on life in doha, coming off in the next 16 minutes, destruction displacement and death across gaza on the 19 9th day of israel's war. at least a 135 kind of studies have been killed in the last 24 hours. i finally asks, what did she do wrong and is very slight, kills a little girl and 11 of a relative engage. busy

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