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does announce that old present staff members who have been taken hostage by inmates, have been freed, $158.20 present stuff. benefits were captured on monday and several facilities. little began of to one of echo doors, most powerful truckloads escaped from prison, was followed by a series of police kidnappings, under the attack on a tv station. as on the rump, yes, he has moved from the city of quite a kill work. and it all happened very quickly in the last few hours that we started to see images of these prison guys in other prison staffers being released one prison after the other. and then id announcement that came from president danielle and noble our he congratulated the police, the army, and the prison, outdoor a fee for their work that has allowed for the return home of the prison guards. they these have been days of anguish to upgrade. worry for their family members,
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we have talked to some of them in the past days, and they were very worried by the president's decisions of maintaining what he called an iron fist against the gangs of also his unprecedented decision of announcing guy to a degree states of internal war and designating at 21 different gangs that operate in this country is terrorist organizations. so everybody was a very worried the what would have happened when and the, a state police in the army decided to re the presence. but instead, it seemed like an agreement was reached that allows for the release of all the prison guides and we spoke to some uh to one prison guy that was released. she was extremely worried, especially because she alleged that the government was not allowing fluid water inside the prison that the they have to cut the lights of the prison. but all this
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pressure seemed to of work the in the end. and this definitely today is that major political victory for the president. the provisions are on the way in the danish capital for the crowning of prince frederick the nations that new king vocalization will take place in copenhagen later on. sunday is a straight invalid wife. mary will be named queen consort third's mother, queen margaret they who reign $552.00. yes. advocates of this road late last month . and just before we go, we want to show you some nice pictures of a volcano that's abrupt thing in the south west. iceland. what you can see here is near the fishing town of been the vic whose 4000 residents have been ordered to evacuate for 2nd time in a month. that's it from me, say to the bottom line is up that the on counting the costs 2024 is set to be the need of elections,
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lots of stores for the global economy under the umbrella. so much potential political change and we'll look at the impacts of the rising cost of shifting gees attention in the red sea. counting the costs on al jazeera, a. hi, i'm steve clements and i have a question. what can guys this past tell us about it's future? let's get to the bottom line. the for decades guys, i has been the number one hot spot between palestinians and israelis, and it is seen so much death and destruction. but it's so much more than today's headlines. for starters, gas, it is literally thousands of years old, sitting at the crossroads between africa and asia. it's always been a vibrant trading city. and empires have bought over it, including the pharaohs, the persians, the greeks, the arabs, and the crusaders, now is israel reduced as the gaza strip, to rumble, killing, and maiming tens of thousands of palestinians after her mazda surprise attacked in
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october. what's going to become of it? have israel's attempts to seal it off from the rest of the world really works and will the united states and israel ever recognize the central role it plays in the palestinian struggle. today we're talking with john pierre. feel you a long serving french diplomat and government advisor who is now a professor of middle east studies as he owns po in paris and he's author of gaza, a history. thank you so much for joining us. let me just start with your book and what, what possessed you, 10 years ago to identify gaza as a rich topic to study and to write this book of its history the best i was. thank you so much like a very tiny invitation. i started the same thing about the book decades ago since my 1st visit to go. so i was as early as 19 eighties and i came back and back during goes or trusting to show the strategy and to try the 2nd and to try the
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2nd to shut off after. and i think this project's showing that this is treat. what is it does have to retreat. i'll guthridge during the games, treat most country to home. it's history. is that the history of got the raises such a forceful as you just mentioned, was essential. is that going to games is very rich history was going against the nature of got enough cos against their structure of his population. you describe rock of gauze in its historical true form as a place that was lush, that was prosperous. that was a trading essentially a trading state, essentially a very, very different picture. could you give our audience some understanding of the many thousands of years of the gaza had a very, very different role. busy and you know,
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sense ability, if you will, between now and, and what used to be it was basically wages as a, uh, the outlet of the, what the has on the does that. so i need to submit the john and see i knew it was a commercial hub between uh i forgot an issue, but also submitted it on the outlet folder. cut off, but it's coming from sir. i've just been in sure. now this is, oh guys that can be known as a service. does that to happen in arabic? because the beginning of the 6th century he wrong. i sent him up in my life. one of the great grandfather, perfect mohammed, died, didn't get about why he was running the top of the so called appear radio arrayed, yesterday's because the guy that was the key as a trading both forms of products that are coming from the start of read. yeah. so
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did you solve or did you do not use a lot of cost us is expected you out to pose. that was uh yeah, i just sent to the right. right. and we use of those, you know, call them higher than kingdom, but also at the same time as a trading foster commission of each other, the huge, the whole cycle, you come and even just city, they have units the to the center. so blood, the beach of baptist units will be the 14th century by your move in your commander uh gustavo z. and the h was name after he had your list because it was a 100 for a huge commercial building. is that extended into a full stretch city? so he missed like the rest of his a guess our area was the basically across road, the trading area and sometimes even a free trade every year. free trade zone for the competing get towers in jerry.
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yeah. so shop here for 4000 in years. what i'm understanding from you is garza matter. it was on the map of nations were trading with an intrigue. was happening there. it was an oasis for for the last couple of decades. guys has been getting the massive message. it doesn't matter that the palestine can be an issue that shoved under the rug. tell us about the tension. historical tension between gaza that used to matter so significantly and gods are being told, sorry, we don't even want to pay attention to the israel palestine issue as well. is the key of costs as a link between what i've done the imagine frontier agent today is the cause of the young going uh, knocked about as a conductor sheets is a click to deny your lives up interesting in the situations. and this is how does uh, your raises across fold became so does a street just think about the square of the street. it's
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a street both for the each foot next october, the wall as a walk independent from the stray point of view, a z, a wall, but a style of the direct object of use, a filter strategy, a role from the starting point of view of 19 for j 1314 bought and went to was stopped in january 1949 street towards the left. it was a z on the street next. what was the british mandate by the state? what was our 1st on? because 77 percent of the commission and 22 percent the feet of the next buys a i should my kingdom of georgia. so this it gets us treat under educational sorry . t was in fuzzy on the street left of iraq published on and it's just the default . what makes it so that was the 1st 3 entities that made that it also suffered from
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japan as being an issue. that's the one of the guys that becomes who's and that's about uh, must exist. there's something about a student population, the home to the 25 percent of you for about completion of spanish time concentrated on the one percent of each former territory. so it's about a senior guy that called, it know was off of north up because from the published i know from the, from the south is that she and strong should taught and gather even in very difficult conditions. so this is how does that give us a center by this time? and you said 20 t, as they're starting to, was struck by the fact that it was not fully taken into account by so, but a scene of the story over a few that goes most center on shows that i'm of course, all of the researchers into the store but not on the refugees that stayed on the very end of the punish time. meaning, garza know in 1948 as i understand that prime minister of israel,
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david been gree on wanted to allow a 100000 of the palestinian refugees who fled to gaza. to go back to their village is what was happening there at that point. it was immediately after this fire, when for the 1st and only time the united nations organized in switzerland, the siege of flows of the comprehensive piece sculpture rugs noted to settle on the aspects of these fairly robust street. and the most pressing issue was the effect of the refugee. so in order for his friend to uh, deal with this such a issue. uh, definitely been going on proposed is that 20000 refugees uh phones a dentist treat wont be resettled into what that becomes a surgery if you said this was an unprecedented offer. and in fact, the last one uh, a section of tied back
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a january. huge debate. can you shred because that was a very stronger uh, denial of any return service, jeez, batch, batch pets. the strategy pre condition was for uh, gets up to the next by each man as i chose what proposed ben go you want to settle fulton for the whole issue. 6 was the shoes by the states and especially yeah. did that thats forth so much. and last so many lives to protect is it gives us treat, ends up for the end of it. but what is interesting and what is really need to said, well, need us to mentor that been going on with the founder of the state of use, right? understood from the one that does uh, because of the concentration of gene and richard g into south west corner of east when we presented it shut edge that we dealt with. and since
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1949 you said tried everything was good. huh. and said, oh, and uh, i'm afraid that the spines i'm probably because of the magnitude of the destruction, such as with all the way know between say again, because the answer to get to the easy. yes. a to be you to choose a product. and in question, you've written a reset for an affairs article called y garza matters, and i recommend it to everyone to read this in this article, john pierre, you talk about casa, in, in, in part, by the design of is really, policy has become the hub, the key hub, a palestinian nationalism, and that, that much of what we've seen in the tension we've seen was by, is we'll o and design and creation in terms of the policies it talk. so how did,
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how does the future look and, and how do you take guys uh, were you argue it's the key to peace and prosperity to become, you know, something it took to get into a different equation right now when you look at the, you know, the the importance of palestinian nationalism is you've written it and you say it's in gaza. you're not talking about ramallah. you're talking about gaza. yes. got a central and your very right one to lines of even a sudden patterson, and he does some of these details for years. i didn't get that much attention to get to the website quite each must have meet that is that in 2007. how much 2 goals are against that? and they got to read the funds, the described as a, as in the know, does it need them to realize own voltage costs for their mahmoud abbas? what being elected the president of bodies opinion of p for a, just
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a 2 years before should come to does that? does that say, i don't forget that produces separated from the rest of the time spent and such was not the case. so there was denied you're a 1st engine, centrally t by his friend, but also the denial of guns us and try to teach by most of suited. but his team leader sheet. and this of course of to start if we don't from the side to, to repeat the trip petition would be more violent, smoke blood, these approved as far as i started and i counted shifting, shifting $15.00, each really was on guns options, biking function was those was where one for the boat music, everybody's right. but the where for the last 4 digits really except why is it 52 further? because the 1st a dish, if i into 5 the tree gives us a piece dynamics finish. that is, that in 1992 booked power,
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it sucks. how be we is the top priority to didn't gauges trade. yeah, me, phone garza, but instead of looking for military solutions, looked for political solution. is that towards the beginning of the simple process and 0 slope agreements. so that means that people like to seem totally give sheet as long as you say, gives a ballast and then you just shoot the cost back to the mode. this is international community because it's possible to say that ok, so want to be over that don't really deal then we stopped it. no, no, no, no. does that tend to be switched in more? it seemed possible. chelsea southern search to humanity, but also to risk before the last because they were seeing such a big afternoon as being butte also brocade of guys up for 16
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years by the thread was a collaboration or fidgeted dissolves. and this easiest brocade, is that literally consolidated? how much greek altogether, and it is, we don't want the samsung truck to worst. that, of course, different to the different place she has to be followed and it does allow us to be altered to the world. so we the tools as a wheat, as being not only for centuries, best for millenniums, and falls a little bit and she does the region, the re folk as a and it's genetic that's your, you're talking your article, john pierre, about a very beautiful different vision that might have taken place, might have, i should underscore if james wolfensohn had had his way. it was a $3000000000.00 development plan in the, in the 19 ninety's thought about it uh for gaza. james wolfensohn was president of the world bank. and this was undermined by ariel sharon,
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the prime minister of israel, who was undermined by other forces. but you talk about the importance of getting back to that kind of thinking of returning gaza to a prosperous, major economic hub. is there any prospect of that happening as you see it? and because you talk about it being the way forward, but who is going to do that? well, again, you know, i'm, i'm just restoring, using my office in the, in power is. but i can see that if mister watson, something you know from the head of the world back phone reasonable in 2000 shies for world is 3000000000 dollar plan to do look, go to the not on need to do that. but to invest my understanding of the media industries on monday for several median. so she's friends, monday to project we have the date, is it read policies of the israeli system?
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us know the 2 gigs of it was about a cmc in 2005. the whole project was smashed, but only by shown by just court just for the seat of the, such as we're building down everything. exhaust the problem. disease connection is east experience. we're really backed so much money on that. i think it was quite a bit because you're most of the money is actually be spent for me. i mean the constricting which is actually being give these truck under our various times with the phone wrist. you know, we'd be, i don't, 0510. i heard incredible mine. but when she just, just to review what existing, what is usage? he's not sustainable. he's not sustainable. but a senior people. it does. all of this is a right. while the future was on the rise and, and this for reason us to be open this verizon being open,
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we open. i'm actually come sheets of that is your rise as far as the whole region of these fairly close to the peace process of the push. so all these really, all rods are relations. you're a diplomat and an advisor for success is french governments for 2 decades. what would be your advice to not only france but to other governments as they look at this crisis today? and as we try to look for well, this very moment, i just, the key not looked at any capacity of not in the mall and a few should on known official stages. each over about. i'm convinced that you are united you as a key role to play because of the true we should all because of your vision in front of it because it's a survey key challenge because for you to read,
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you don't mention that, but there is a connection between the war and ukraine as a warrant to new jersey still continues playing on both seattle. it's very cleverly and you know the falls at craig and fall into 5. i caught it not to to be most threatened. well, the oil and gas, i'm not going to be stuck back to the dynamics of to stop and new york in union is in maine, the trade off. now a few strategies of main don't notice about as to now $40000.00 the leverage on both in standards. but what is more important for you? you put your point of view and i want to stress that is that in the previous gauge, we so how much you paid when it done the blind? i mean, the least of the crisis is that, so she pulls the that can states of america all the way editing,
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quote and quote that quote, the sheer number revolution that don't need to blood. the uh, uh, was that yes of the regime launched on his own people. so you won't get on the phone to, to, to get you enrolled into resort towards the so corner she g crises of 2015 as where she at the, at the all way. is that for the old. so you're a, as a g, a vested to, i won't even say fighters interest settings issue. and then being involved in goes up because of the small bent. this is the both the shapes and use for a new device, new in the re. now, the do not to our d, n a g a to, to, to promote situations is, is yeah, and ghost in the, in the present to tactics is i'm not going to strategic ends in a foreign power to take charge. and because i'm sorry to say
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america, the katie, it's a vision for peace by letting is destro she up and they asked to do without any revision for the day after because of the european union for its own sake. us to step in, i'm just wondering, does this one feel different, more than a 100 guys, a heritage sites have been damaged or destroyed? you've got the greater mari mosque, the church of saint plus for us, which is what fall to be. the 3rd oldest church in the world destroyed 2000 year old roman cemetery, rock and museum. these are cultural and historic sites. is there something else in your sense going on in this conflict? it's different than others. i was so, so as you just mentioned, so by me to the destruction of the sites, you mentioned a deep choose centuries off was invasions, occupation,
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is that being damaged at such a degree? so it's always easy to read. you're quoting because it's part of the memory of many g is that is that he's vanishing in front of our rides. but what is it so to me, more important does a large thing get an impression of the shot? yeah, you know, it is a human human being before the stones, even historical stones. ease of costs is it is a women and men of guns. the ends are kept off, trophy is already exceeding, resend is that by the side of and your competitors are knocked about 1940, like boss ends in mass executives of the student population, rob owner versus of the year 1948 search and shelves and published in in cute morris. now we offer up 23000 for re
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more so recent number, but actually just proportion because it was one percent of the population of the time. and now one percent of the population of, of uh, it does uh, as being cube and is actually the notifications that it's going to stop even when he comes to zig z o. just 6 of the subs in that box was a $750000.00 plus the but a senior and its uh being forced out of their homes. no, you are nearly a 1000000000 people well being forced inside yourself. so. oh, for sure. his yeah, definitely. these plays, but in fact the refugees, 2nd with reference to subway roof or just for sweeper for me because sometimes they'll be moving from place to place to ups. okay. around this is a so by me to does a tragedy is unprecedented. i will thank you so much for helping us to understand
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the history of gaza as a great oasis in this region's history. thank you so much french historian john p or feel you thank you for being with us today. so what's the bottom line? after world war 2 diplomats and generals from around the world, created the united nations. they launch the marshall plan to rebuild europe. and they turn the occupation of japan into a re wiring of that nation's politics. it's economy and even national psyche traumatic time supports us to rethink, to recalibrate and redesign. and that will happen with gaza as well, whether the west likes it or not. israel has cost previous attempts at economic development in gaza, but for thousands of years because a has been a prosperous and large cross road between north africa and the lavon helping cause had it become what it is always been. is the kind of creative thinking that turns a nightmare into a thriving and robust economy and a state that palestinians will one day be able to cherish and celebrate sure
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there's a long road ahead. but that's a vision that rides with history. and that's the bottom line, the the domain manager for nearly 3 years. evelyn limiter. it has been investigating a sharp pen trafficking operation. now she's putting together the team that's going to rate it. and lexie though they're still but as be well, but i said less indeed this bit of a humble shirts than to become a global commodity prize doesn't agree down in the special soup in asia. sharps that play the vital role in the ocean for hundreds of millions of years,
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but the train does now pushing some spaces to the brink of extinction. there was a trade in short, francis valued at hundreds of millions of dollars a year, which i didn't mind that then. okay. one more thing. go that on the wedding that much than that would tell you that we gained exclusive access to a team of investigators into dismantling a ring. a short vend traffickers video b medical help a single video thing, send the send me until then. so they were following this car here as an investigator and a couple of cops in it. we're going to leader rates today in the harbor against these traders who they say are putting some spaces, a sharp at risk. you said you sent him to the 47 hard hitting entities as a un ambassador position given to you by or die. suppose you've described that is better than is that any thoughts provided?
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hang on my question to you. all that good cooks, i think, is the most difficult press than our part to answer facing realities. usb to in the security council. this is a may just don't think, look as if it exit or to hear the story on told to how does era it was never good to see. that doesn't happen. our country is out enough. we will not take it any more 3 years after protest, a storm to the capital. the new race for the white house begins in iowa as republican candidates, once again bethel trump, for the nomination, stay with alpha 0. so the us selection 2024. the human mind is incredible, but it can also oklahoma, sometimes here's a pill that solve all your problems. in the 1st of a full part, see we travel to iceland, which is the highest rate of anti depressants use and you know, that was all so so, so where by and to origin t to find out twice every b is so popular,
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you just done exactly the same as when we were babies with our mother minus changing the way you think about mental health, which is the deluxe to hold robin. you're watching the, i'll just it renews online for my headquarters here in the coming up in the next 60 minutes. there are lots been suffering and gone, so it's been $100.00 days since israel the gotten. it's will getting at least 23843 palestinians. israel's prime minister says nobody will stop the military from destroying them all as well as the groceries about his handling of the war.
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