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of science from different nationalities came to the opening, asian cop matched to show supports as much for the team as for the people in palestine, no one and tell them say, strong. i know that things are really hard, but just stay strong for your country. and we hope to see posts sent back as a country here to support ta this time and it will support all this time with every single thing we have. yeah, i just want to say that you don't have to be, i'm stand with them. just like you have to be a human 1st. that's why i'm from gaza. so with everything going on, i just feel like showing your support for the country is the most important thing. even if you're not published in just being until the dirty was published and every way shape. so those teams held a moment of silence to remember those who lost their lives because the war on garza out on the page, iran got straight down to business. it took the 3 time agent champions, just 2 minutes to go ahead through cutting on, sorry, thought iran cit. 21st of the world rankings. well,
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palestine and $9.00 to $9.00 and the radians made it so. so generally inside to double the lead in the 12 minutes a and a said go followed from next to say. but just before the whole time, we're so proud of science thomas, say i'm smoke 3, earphones defense, to heading a goal for his team. so being a huge to 3, this done in the 2nd home, the palace to be in team continue to be out played by iran stuff. the zoom made it full one from close range to seal earphones victory and send them top of group. see, it's really tough so i can see the results make this happen. but were you aware of the support that you had in the
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sense, even at one point the a raining of funds which hearing from you, i'll tell me to know before the farm tunnel on the water was supposed to call this time what i'm saying is that i think the front of him, the continue was talking about by this time because we did a good company and it wasn't the result. the policy and team for the tournaments representing that country is already a big achievement. and they'll do it again on close day against nova top appointments, united arab emirates, joanna roscoe, i would just say around education city stadium. well that's it for me down jordan, for now i'll be back in around 30 minutes with more of today's news. the bottom line is the next stage in pennsylvania, the on counting the costs 2024 set to be the of elections,
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lots of stores for the global economy under the umbrella. so i launch a potential political change and will look at the impact, the rising cost of shifting due to the tensions in the red sea. counting the costs on al jazeera a. hi, i'm steve clements and i have a question. what can guys this past tell us about it's future? let's get to the bottom line. the for decades guys, i has been the number one hot spot between palestinians and israelis, and it seems so much death and destruction. but it's so much more than today's headlines. for starters guys, it is literally thousands of years old, sitting at the crossroads between africa and asia. it's always been a vibrant trading city. and empires have fought over it, including the pharaohs, the persians, the greeks, the arabs, and the crusaders, now is israel reduced as the gaza strip, to rumble, killing, and maiming tens of thousands of palestinians. after her mazda surprise attacked in
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october. what's going to become of it? have israel's attempts to seal it off from the rest of the world, really works and will the united states and israel ever recognize the central role it plays in the palestinian struggle. today we're talking with john pier feel you. a long serving french diplomat and government advisor who is now a professor of middle east studies, as he owns po in paris and he's author of gaza, a history. thank you so much for joining us. let me just start with your book and what, what possessed you, 10 years ago to identify gaza as a rich topic to study and to write this book of its history. the best. thank you so much. like a very tiny invitation. i started goes thinking about the book decades ago since my 1st visit to guys. so i was as early as 19 eighties and i came back and back during goes or trusting to try the astrology and to try the 2nd and
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to try the 2nd to shut off after. and i think this project's showing that this is treat. what is it does have to retreat. oh, that's not true. during the games treat most country to home, it's history. is that the history of got the raising such a forceful, as you just mentioned, was essential. is that going against the rich history was going against the nature of god, got enough cross against the structure of his population. you describe rock garza in its historical true form as a place that was lush, that was prosperous. that was a trading. essentially a trading state, essentially a very, very different picture. could you give our audience some understanding of the many thousands of years of the gaza had a very, very different role. busy and you know,
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sense ability, if you will, between now and, and what used to be it was basically a wages as a, uh, the outlet of the, what do you have uh, the, does that sound me to submit each onions t. i knew it was a commercial hub between uh i forgot a nation but also submitted it on the outlet folder kilobytes coming from sir. i've just been interested now and this is oh guys that can be known as ashton is. does that to happen in arabic? because the beginning of the 6th century he wrong, i sent him, i've done my life. one of the great grandfather, perfect mohammed died, didn't get to know why he was running the top a phones of so called up to your radio. arrayed yesterday's because the guy that was the key as a trading both phones of products that are coming from the start of read. yeah. so
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did you start with, did you do not use a lot of cost us as expected you out? those that was uh, yeah, i just sent to the right. right. and we use of those, you know, call them fire them kingdom but also at the same time as a trading foster commission of each other, the huge god i'll say to you. com and even just city. they have eunice the to the center. so blood, the beach of battles units will be the 14th century by your move in your commander uh gustavo z. and the h was name after he had your list because it was a 100 for a huge commercial building. is that extended into a full shred city? so he missed like the rest of is a guess, our area was the basically across road, the trading area and sometimes even a free trade every year. free trade zone for the competing. get towers in jerry.
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yeah. so shop here for 4000 in years. what i'm understanding from you is garza matter. it was on the map of nations were trading with an intrigue. was happening there. it was an oasis for for the last couple of decades. guys has been getting the massive message. it doesn't matter that the palestine can be an issue that shoved under the rug. tell us about the tension. historical tension between gaza that used to matter so significantly and guys are being told, sorry, we don't even want to pay attention to the israel palestine issue as well. is the key of costs as a link between what i've done the imagine frontier agent today is the cause of the young going uh, not to balance. the customer feels as of click to deny your lives, opinion, the aspirations. and this is how does uh, your raises across fold became does a street just think about this where the street, it's
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a street both for the each for next october, the wall as a walk independent from the street. the point of view, a z, a wall by the style of these are welcome to view. the 1st is fairly a rule from the starting point of view of 19 for j package. 14 not and went to was stopped in january 1949 street towards the left. it was the z on the street left off. what for the british mandated by the state? what was our by this time? because 77 percent of should be commission and 22 percent of feet of the next buys a i should my kingdom of georgia. so this it gets us treat under as you should know . sorry. t was in fuzzy on the street left of iraq published on and it's just the default. what makes it so that was the 1st 3 entities that made that it also
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suffered from japan as being an issue. but the one of the guys i'd be comes who's enough about uh, must exist. there's something about a student population, the home to the 25 percent of you for about completion of spanish time concentrated on the one percent of each former territory. so it's about a senior guy that called it was off of north off because from orange or published i know 20 from the south is that short and strong should taught and gather even in very difficult conditions. so this is how does that give us a center by this time? and you said 20 t, as they're starting to, was struck by the fact that it was not fully taken into account by some policy number is toyota or a few that goes most center on joes that have of course all of the researchers into the store. but not on the refugees that stayed on the very end of his time. meaning, garza know in 1948 as i understand that prime minister of israel,
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david been gree on wanted to allow a 100000 of the palestinian refugees who fled to gaza to go back to their village is what was happening there. at that point, it was immediately after the ceasefire when for the 1st and only done, the united nations organized in switzerland to secure flows of the comprehensive peace conference noted to settle in the aspects of the strategy or of the street. and the most pressing issue was the effect of the refugee. so in order for his friend to deal with the destruction of the issue that we've been going on, proposed is up to 100000 refugees. the phones of down the street will be resettled into what that becomes the territory. if you say this was an unprecedented offer. and in fact, the last one, the offset. sure. tied back
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a generate to the beach and use read because it was a very stronger denial of any return to richard cheese bax, bax, pet. the strategy precondition was for uh, gets up to the uh next by eastern uh the tools of what proposed uh, been going to set the quote in for the whole issue. 6 was the shoes by the state and the special agent that thats forth so much and just so many lives to protect is it gives us treat ends up to the end of it. but what is interesting and what is true, you need us to wherever need us to mentor that been going. it was a fund of the state of use, right. understood from the one that does uh, because of the concentration publishing and richard g into the south west corner of east when we presented it shut edge up. we dealt with and since
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1949 eastern tried everything was good. huh. and said, oh and uh, i'm afraid that the spines i'm probably because of the magnitude of the destructions that she's waiting on right now between say again, because the answer to get to the easy to yes or to be you to choose a package and in question you've written a reset for an affairs article called y garza matters, and i recommend it to everyone to read this in this article. john pierre, you talk about casa, in, in, in part, by the design of is really policy has become the hub, the key hub, a palestinian nationalism. and that, that much of what we've seen in the tension we seen was by israel o and design and creation. in terms of the policies it talk. so how do,
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how does the future look and, and how do you take guys uh, where you argue it's the key to peace and prosperity to become, you know, something it took to get into a different equation right now. when you look at the, you know, the, the importance of palestinian nationalism is you've written it and you say it's in gaza, you're not talking about ramallah. you're talking about gaza. yes, go central. and your very right one to line is that even somebody's telling me does some of these details for years. i didn't get that much attention to go to the website quite for each i must have meet that is that in 2007. how much 2 goals are against that? and they got to read the floods the describe as a, as in the know does it need them to realize own voltage costs for their mahmoud abbas. what being elected, the president of the senior people are just
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a few years before should come to does that? does that say, i don't forget that produces separated from the rest of the spend and such was another case. so there was denied you're a 1st engine, centrally t by his friend, but also the denial of guns us and try to teach by most of suited. but his team leader sheet. and this article us to start, if we don't from the site to to repeat an attribute taishan, we'd be more violent, smoke blood, these approved as long as we started audio, i counted shifting, shifting $15.00, each really was on guns options, biking function. it was was where one for the boat music, everybody's right. but the where the last 4 digits of the except why is it shows teach you further? because the 1st to see if i into 5, the tree gives us a piece dynamics finish. that is, that in 1992 booked power,
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it sucks. how be we is the top priority didn't gauges failure on the phone, garza, but instead of looking for military solutions, looked for political solution. is that towards the beginning of the simple process and 0 slope agreements. so that means that people like to seem totally give sheet as long as the stray gives the ballast and then you just shoot the cost back to the mode. this is international community because it's possible to say that ok, so want to be over that don't really deal, then we stop it. no, no, no, no. does i can a, b, b, c is more, it seemed possible show seats on search to humanity, but also to risk before the last because they were seeing, such as the afternoon of the butte, also brocade of guys up for 16 years by the thread was the
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collaboration of fidgeted dissolves, and this easiest brocade is that literally consolidated? how much greek altogether? and it is, we don't want the samsung truck to west is that of course, different to a different place. she has to be followed and it does allow us to be altered to the world. so we the tools as a wheat, as being not only for centuries, best for millenniums, and falls, or more bitten sheets of the region. the re for goes up and it's not because you're, you're talking your article john pierre, about a very beautiful different vision that might have taken place might have, i should underscore if james wolfensohn had had his way. it was a $3000000000.00 development plan in the, in the 19 ninety's thought about it for gaza. james wolfensohn was president of the world bank. and this was undermined by ariel sharon, the prime minister of israel,
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who was undermined by other forces. but you talk about the importance of getting back to that kind of thinking of returning gaza to a prosperous, major economic hub. is there any prospect of that happening as you see it? and because you talk about it being the way forward, but who is going to do that? well, again, you know, i'm, i'm just restoring, using my office in the, in paris. but i can see that if you still want, since, you know, from the head of the world back phone reasonable in 2005 to the full world is free 1000000000 dollar plan to develop, go to the knuckle, need to do that. but to invest my understanding of the media industry is open monday. several median. so she's friends, monday to trajectory of the state is the green house is also it is very set to much
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know there are 2 gigs of it was about a cmc in 2005, the whole project will smashed, but only by shown by just court just for the seat of the, such as the building down to everything that exhaust the problem. disease collection is east experience where really back is so much money on that. i think it was quite a bit because you're most of the money is actually be spent for me. i mean the constricting what is actually being give these truck under our very times with the phone list. you know, we'd be, i don't, 0510. i heard incredible mine, but mean she just, just to review what existing, what it is usage is not sustainable is not sustainable, but it's still young people. you guys up of this is a right while the future was on the rise and at least for reason us to be open.
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this for reason being open, we open up some cheap come changed of that is your rise as far as the whole region of the strategy going to center please press the push. so what was the strategy robs or relations? you're a diplomat and an advisor for success is french governments for 2 decades. what would be your advice to not only france but to other governments as they look at this crisis today? and as we try to look forward. well, this very moment, i just the key, no, like that, any capacity of not in the mall and a few should on official stages each over about i'm convinced that you are united you as a key role to play. not because the true we should all because of your vision in front of it because it's a survey key challenge because for you wrote, kind of,
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you just mentioned that there is a connection between the war and ukraine as a warranted immediately still continues playing on both seattle, it's very sluggard. and you know the falls is you, you, craig, and phone to stop? i caught it not to to be most threatened. well, the oil and gas, i'm not going to be stuck back to the dynamics of to stop and you, you open union is the main trade off. now, a few strategies of main. don't notice about us to now 40000 the leverage on both instead of what is more important for you to europe in front of you. and i want to stress that is that in the previous decade, we so how much you are paid when it done the blind, i mean the least of the crisis is that so she pulls the united states of america all the way editing, quote, and quote that quote,
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the ship revolution that don't need to blow the, uh, uh, was that yes of the regime launched on his own people. so you don't want to, to, to get you enrolled into resort towards the so called refugee crisis of 2015, as long as you have the at the all way. is that for the old. so you're a, as a t vested to, i won't even say fighters interest settings issue. and then being involved in goes up because of the small bands. this is the both the ships in east bed and the policy and the re now the do not to our z n a g a to, to, to promote situation says is yeah, and go in the, in the present to tactics let you go to strategic ends in a foreign power to take charge and because i'm sorry to say
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america, the katie, it's a vision for peace by letting is guster feet up to the asked to do without any revision for the day after because that the european union for its own sake, us to step in, i'm just wondering, does this one feel different, more than a 100 guys, a heritage sites have been damaged or destroyed? you've got the great omari mosque, the church of saint plus for us, which is what ought to be the 3rd oldest church in the world, destroyed 2000 year old roman cemetery, rock and museum. these are cultural and historic sites. is there something else in your sense going on in this conflict? it's different than others of what it says to as you just mentioned. so by me to the destruction of all the sites you mentioned, i believe 2 centuries off walls invasions,
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occupation zones being damaged at such a degree. so it's always easy to read zip coding because it's part of the memory of many g is that is that he's vanishing in front of our rides. but plucky isn't so to me more important there's a lot rich saying get an impression of commercial job. you know, it is a human human being before the stones, even historical stones. ease of costs is it is a women and men of guns. the ends are kept off, trophy is already exceeding every saying is that by the side of and your competitors are not about 1940 like boss ends in mass executives are based in population. rob auto versus is the year 1948 searching sounds and ballast and cute morris. now we offer up 23000
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for re more, so reduce the number, but actually just proportion because it was one percent of the population of the time enough one percent of the population of, of uh, it does uh, as being cube. and there's actually no indication that it's going to stop, even when he comes to zig z o. this 6 of the subs in that box was a $750000.00 plus the finest in units uh, being forced out of their homes. no, you are nearly a 1000000000 people well being forced inside yourself. so oh for sure. it is. yeah, definitely these place, but in fact the refugees, 2nd with reference to subway were for just for sweeper for me because sometimes that will be moving from place to place to ups. okay. run this is a to by me to does a tragedy is unprecedented as well. thank you so much for helping us to understand
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the history of gaza as a great a waste in this region's history. thank you so much french historian john peter, feel you thank you for being with us today. so what's the bottom line after world war 2? diplomats and generals from around the world created the united nations. they launch the marshall plan to rebuild europe, and they turn the occupation of japan into a re wiring of that nation's politics. it's economy and even national psyche. traumatic time supports us to rethink, to recalibrate and redesign. and that will happen with gaza as well, whether the west likes it or not. israel has cost previous attempts at economic development in gaza, but for thousands of years because a has been a prosperous and large cross road between north africa and the level of helping cause had it become what it is always been. is the kind of creative thinking that turns a nightmare into a thriving and robust economy and a state that palestinians for one day be able to cherish and celebrate sure there's
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a long road ahead. but that's a vision that rides with history. and that's the bottom line, the the am a vendor for nearly 3 years. evelyn lemitrus has been investigating the sharp pen trafficking operation. now she's putting together the team that's going to rated and lexy though they're still but as the well. but i said less indeed i this bit of a humble shirts then to become a global commodity prize doesn't agree down in the special soup in asia sharps that play the vital role in the ocean for hundreds of millions of years. but
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the trade is now pushing some spaces to the brink of extinction. there was a trade in short, francis valued at hundreds of millions of dollars a year, which i didn't mind that then. okay. one more thing. go that on the wedding that much than that would tell you that we gained exclusive access to a team of investigators and dismantling a ring. a short 10 traffickers said he would be, my gosh, okay, think godaddy or think send the, send me until the following. this car here as an investigator and a couple of cops in it, we're gonna leader rates today in the harbor against these traders who they say are putting some space is a start at risk to get him to the 47. we will never concede it doesn't happen, our country is out enough. we will not take it at a bar 3 years after protest as storms of the capital. the new rates for the white
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