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hello and welcome to the program. i'm elizabeth put on him. while the eyes of the world have been focused on israel's genocide, a war and garza over in the occupied west bank, the science of his valley weapons have been trained on an increasing number of palestinian targets. shootings of innocent civilians have nearly become the routine signature of his very military raids with children among those killed and injured refugee camps. having had by strikes walls, settlers of open the attacked palestinians with arms provided by israel. palestinians from the west bank have launched isolated attacks on his railways to so how dangerous is the situation and wants as well as political and military strategy for the west bank. we will be discussing all this with, i guess in a few minutes. but 1st, this report from let me call soon chevy. another day. another rate, bobby ross describes the moment is from the soldiers marched into a store into the how can i ship of them?
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i hope he told the workers to go. and he told me that he will use me as a human shield. he said the young people should entitled stones, you will walk in front of me, or the impact of his relatable and gaza is being felt indeed occupied. westbank is really rates have risen dramatically since october the 7th that the incursions co fuse risk and killings happening nearly every day. the palestinian health industry says more than 350 people have been killed in the country during the past 3 months. these really military has also detain nearly 6000 palestinians. many say the on the attack to we are a far a bit from guys that there is no silver service here, but we are being killed every day. we are being killed every single day. either in here or the other endurance or the other in geneva due to every part of our country
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we're being killed. is the genocide follow stain in cindy occupied westbank or also finding another bye to rising fall and spot is riley settlers. the u. n. has raced and along the us, preston on some york, and he does have condemned the aggression lucas accountability for a move to kelly remains pervasive. us does impunity for festivals in violation of israel's obligations as they will combine power to ensure the safety of palestinians in the west bank even before october. the 7th right wing is riley's, including government ministers, made provocative incursions. deluxe a most indeed occupied east, in breach of standing agreements. pray at one of his arms. most sacred sites have been beaten by these ready military, as well says it's phone goes off again off to the mazda attack in total. since then, tell athenians living nearly 90 cologne because of
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a have come on. the moon is really a tax. with the latest in decades of violence against when the consumption is, i'll just see the full inside store. the height and tension in the occupied westbank form is a recent pattern of increasing violence. according to the ones who mounted here in a 5th agency, $507.00 palestinians including $88.00 children, were killed by israelis there on the last year. that is the most on record for us since the agency began collecting figures in 2005, 36 as ratings were killed by palestinians in 2023. that is also the highest number for yes. since records began since october, the 7th mold and full $1212.00 palestinians have been injured. $637.00 of them children and the occupied westbank and east jerusalem. a 3rd of those injuries came from live ammunition funded by his rarity forces. let's
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take the discussion right to and i'm on the, in the occupied westbank from where all 3 of our guests. joining us most of about goofy is secretary general of the palestinian national initiative. that is a palestinian political movement. while these how boss is with the palestinian farms is rarely studies old mother and bush also lady is policy lead for the u. k chassis outside and be occupied palestinian territory. and israel very well. welcome to all of you, mr. bug booth. the, i'll start with the use, the one says that palestinians are living in constant tara, of the discriminatory use of this very state, false, and settling violence against them. can you paint us a picture of life and the occupied westbank a window? of course. what's happening in the band is, is bad, but it does already been as what's happening goes on guys chip. but luckily are subjected to here is uh, since, especially since the 7th of october is, is it a,
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is violation of entity into nice and i don't know if it is early on me. so just if it is there any police matter if it is already set to the feelings that they have a license to good and they can do any i'm supposed to do to any post and you have accidentally posted. the result is very drastic. i mean, this is the 7th of october. i think we've lost more than 540 since the beginning of last 2 is most about 500 for us to use. since the 7th of october, we had in so many by this thing in scale. at least one to 2 point us to management could direct me by setting up the title and desire. now is, i mean good. there is a set of notes in the, in a very, a weekly. and the, the sub list has been acting on a senior community is conducting also acts of ethnic cleansing. and all this done said to keep on is to me and communities have been evicted from their homes. by is
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it is not settled. but the situation is even what it's done to the homeless. the bank has been divided in 224 clusters or get those if you want me divided by no less than the 615. and if that is an early check point, many of which have become stations for i had asked meant then sometimes stations would find this to me is would be shocked at them can. and the sacrament expansion is growing at a rate that is unprecedented. and that is, i just think people so widely, we didn't see that since maybe the 1st time to file more than 5365 simians have to be met. i sit in the bank since the 7th of october that the brought the number of letters to me is a g is to more than a 1000. and on top of that, the present us and isn't a lead use out a subject to, to type in
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a minute to try to oppression which led to that pretty close. at least 7 on this to me and present us since the 7th of october or well live do be mr. bob booty. thank you very much for laying the situation out for us, and we will be discussing all of those points in more detail. mr. how about if i can come to you even before october 7th, as well being for pushing b u. n. said that 2023 has been the deadliest to. yeah. for palestinians in the west bank. why has israel increased its raise and violence in the occupied westbank? yes, of course it has been a they did lead us to use it even before 7th of october. actually we should remember that in december, the 2022. and you, as the government was stablished, and this was a very far right. we a government eh,
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2 important things happened concerning the west bank 1st as with rich who was considered the extremist figure in discovery. and it was and it became disc administered in the defense. is there any defense minister and he was, it became responsible for a whole with bank and a also they could get a disagree. missed ration. and d, of course, represents a the similar as inside the west bank and the as a region, a 2 i'd have to one video settlers it by 22030. a lot of a changes have been happening in the west bank, especially on the west bank. a since the beginning of 2023. okay, so you see the to just as a result of this, we don't have the 5 rice governments that there's ever been elected in the country . but what is it that you think that they are trying to do a
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yes. so, so these to be the, the is rather agend escalated in 2002 and $3.00 did not be gad. it by the establishment of this government. however, eh, israel, and since 2014 has halted any political negotiations with pedestrians. and this is the being when a known for everybody, a, the announcements of the as a, a government that every se should be next to as right. and, and that it, by the senior authority operating inside the area and be, should be degraded as a non political entity only governing administrating a disability. that affairs of policy means. this is a very huge shift. in the last decade that eh, arrived it's momentum and into that said $23.00 is so israel and is a west writing since the beginning of eh,
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that to you is to expand the settlements and also to improve the conditions of the settlers in order to next them administratively, but also to establish all facilities for the settlers. why is this demanded a shift in the practices of the as rarely government the woods, the students? and so it was their labs. and certainly we have seen a great expansion of as rarely assessments which are of course, the legal on the international norm. miss kelly, the let me bring you in now on that is really activity across the occupied westbank . and the raids that, you know, we have been focusing on what kind of impact are they have in humanitarian impact or they haven't on the people who live in the west bank of catch, especially given the great destruction that we often see accompanying these raids, the destroying of drugs of very important infrastructure of power lines of water supply. i mean,
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i think what we're seeing and what we've been seeing in the westbank is yes and in gaza. he did, we had, as we have to make, the comparison is, you know, very similar to policy of forcible displacement of demolitions, of killing with impunity and no accountability for both the children and unarmed men and women with record numbers on the rise every single year. since the u. n, has been monitoring those numbers in the last 20 years here in l. p. t. the impact of closure is of military rates, of unlawful detentions interests of demolitions, enforceable displacement of communities. this is especially a big impact on the economy. so essential, agricultural activities are drastically reduced. there's most of income, we've got 200000 posting and so we're unable to work in israel used to have permits to be able to work in israel. we have 50 percent of salaries being paid because of the of no money been, you know,
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being received by the posting in authority and therefore civil service and not being paid. agriculture is a major economic sector for the posting in economy. it's crucial likelihood for thousands. you know, the inability to harvest but has also an impact on local economy. it's not yet seen, but we will see the, the, the impact on the economy in the upcoming months. a year. actually, according to the posting in farm is union. this year in the hosting in the farmers were only able to harvest 50 percent of their credit produce this year because of collective punishing policies imposed by israel posts october 7 that already existed. but yeah, i have just ask you to put it in and, and, and been high and it also has actually an impact on our, on our fragmentation. we're unable to visit each other as families, as employees and colleagues, we kept, you know, really travel from one city to the other in the o, p t that has an, a huge impact on the psychological and, and, and kind of cultural fabric of posting and society and, and psychological tools,
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children are unable to go to school and normally in, in, in it was fine because they have to cross check points. you can imagine what impacts crossing a check point to go to school has on a child from little age. you know, this is something that's normalized to him actually yesterday a 3 month old baby was died at a check point because they were refused a passage by these really soldiers. and these are, you know, stories that we hear of women unable to cross the checkpoint and how to deliver at the check point. you know, this is a daily reality propose young mister biography. this committee has really laid out the economic impact, the social impact of what's been happening and the occupied bestbuy. and she also mentioned collective punishment. what would you say the political impacts so far as being on the, on palestinian, on the palestinian political scene? we've seen a recent, you know, recent polls by the palestinian center for policy and survey research showed that
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44 percent of people in the westbank support. i'm oss up from just 12 percent in september and that the 92 percent of people want president lockwood us, of the palestinian authority, which administers many parts of the occupied westbank to resign. yes, it odd reason sort of that. but in general, the last on the stand that spends dns off with me seeing that's clearly out of personal process, let's have to use and i've started seeing that there's the private dependence to now not study to so many of authority. what so ever? yeah, there is in here. yeah, i'm using bidding. most of this child is supposed to be on the outside of the security control. and they have not expected to that, but the student on the computer to come to that and see if it's bus more than the private step on has to handle sort of give them the ability to control its own revenues, which are not the by doing not as of by isn't a data paid by us,
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the senior citizens, the taxes, the me under the new one of the palestinian authority. even that is there is a control inc, and it is actually conducting an act of by to see defining the sort of key from these resources. so practically, the people watched using the last attempt to use and waiting for the so called the peace process. the state solution to also process the payment and nothing happened except tomorrow commission most at the most um, motor addition on marketing scenes so that people don't have to put us in this on the see of the police to new outside. and they don't have that us in the so called, most likely meant they want the people who supported resistance. that's why you see this shift in the falls. mm hm. because because i had made the progress the news doing that if i'm but as time told me that i was a fuss about the for one can look at the, on the political context of why is it is doing that it's,
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it's very clear design of the moment was based on 2 principles. next thing that i'm thinking that i'm by force and the money to do so by and keep buying us. but the other aspect is to get to the palestinian population, which is difficult to do. regardless of the fact that 7000000 in front of students are still abroad, refugees, the price of the items return to their homes. the number of students on the study by the side is to do equal to is it, are these people? for the that is one of the city of options. you go to the doctor state solution which they don't want to accept because they want to maintain the annexation of those bank. or they should accept one democratic state which means equal rights for people. and that means that that state cannot be jewish on the as the want, or that kind of option, which this is the government is often court. and that is ethnic cleansing calls the funds to young people, not on you guys, but also endorsed back. and it had,
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they succeeded in guys and conducting different things, and then what time to move to the west bank and repeated the same thing. so that's why policy has now understand one thing. they have to start going for the resilience, right? so there is an staff to stay on the land because and thought that they have no future. and mr. how bus do you think that there was a role for the palestinian authority in the palestinian struggle? there was so much talk. you know, the united states for example, wants the palestinian authority to play a crucial role in this, in the future of any possible 2 state solution. but do think that what mr. bod, goofy is saying, is it israel that has render the palestinian authority ineffective? or does the palestinian authority also have to carry some of the blame it? yes, i think it has to go to some of the blame i want to to, to,
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to answer the question, by elaborating on a significant point, mentioned by mr. better with the, when he said that the is a, these want to get the read the form of the other students. we called the scale immunization of the palestinians and the elimination is done by controlling them administratively. this has been done since 1967, and it has been done through an indicted colonial rule. unfortunately, the but a student alternative is the entity which is both of you sitting in this indicted core and then you've taken a disorder a. so in order for the student all forwarded to to, to, to break away from the exhibition, it should not only called for it, but a scene in state or toast is solution. it should code for the coloma zation of this occupation, which i'm in the shape for a tooth and the civic metal. it calls for a 2 state solution. yes, but when we analyze this a, we from the political disclose, we got
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a light that this is on this course for the, the, the, the population consumption. but in fact we, we, we should analyze the weekend isms and the bureaucratic procedures. and that's it. you with the policy and also to, to defacto as part of the colonial regime. it is not about it and judging it politically or ethically, it's about talking about the mechanisms of we need this aggregate that also accords and read it line by line. we see that it is the civilian on the west bank is the civil administration, or that is there any soldiers? and part of this structure is defined as an alternative which is taking administrative control of management control over the last 2 minutes. so i'm analyzing the mechanisms that are eh, it in effect on the ground and not judging the the politic guess the, the gist of the blessing authority. so in order to, to, to up for
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a 2 state solution. eh, we should break away from us. the codes we should also, we have 2 divisions within which means that the student is the 1st is between the west bank and it gets set between about the time thomas and the 2nd a division that nobody talks about is between the bus students inside is right and, and the bus thing is in the so called occupied territories. this division also shouldn't be implement eliminated in order to talk about admin submit to the project. all right, miss holly, the do you think that the palest and in a far sheet should be playing a bigger role in protests, protecting palestinian civilians and the occupied westbank can be doing more. i mean, it's important to set the scene, but this is a military occupation, is realize that occupier has clear duties and obligations under international law of which a paramount duty is to protect public sydney and civilians and provide them with
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basic necessities. both in the west bank and gaza and which they are not doing in both the west bank and gaza. because in fact, on the contrary, they deprive posted means of access to land, of access to water, of access to national with natural resources. if they, you know, impede, are movement and, and put restrictions are in a freedom of movement. have rebuilt, for example, most permits that people have to access israel and all the, you know, the, the, the, the closures that we were talking about. so i wouldn't even put the burden on the posting in authority. i would put the burden on israel in terms of protecting posting and people and providing in line with ok national there to national obligations. one more point i want to make this fragmentation a posting in society has led to isolation of communities and the inability to create an alternative. suppose thing is, um, this is what this policy of control and divide division and oppression was created
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is, is that there is no other alternative proposed to me. and i done this authority and it's been difficult for also to have, you know, 4 or 4, you know, future or 4 were thinking when, when, when unable to, to, to, to, to, to, to organize together. sure. missed about who the when miss kelly was talking about how it is rails obligations and rights under international law. it hasn't been abiding by those for 70 years. it's not going to begin to do that. now. is it? but you one says that there was a risk of annexation as well. and next thing parts of the occupied westbank, whose responsibility is it now to make sure that that doesn't happen. do you think that the international community will allow that? if that's where things are headed as well, who is the international community that has the big questions? is that the nation, the community, uh, the people uh now do most political over no work,
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demanding the end of the attack on guys on the on garza and demanding that punch deals with the free or is it the state the united states government and the government of the time on some other lists and governments want allow industry to the infinitive i'm of sent a nation. i know is that i will not change its course unless it is subject to sanctions. and if the world does not continue to use the standard look what i found was it was put under when i live in. the old one is 11000 sections on russia in one months, because they said they took you by the bosses weekly. in our case yeah, supporting the key part. so this done understand the test to change and is what i have come up with must be able to achieve these unless it stops. it's natural being a simpler colonial project. they want to our next though, 2 by 30 threes, and the one does not punishing him for that. and i think on this little boy that
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investment sanctions, as was done to the apartheid system in south africa, the situation can be changed. and we've seen an entry level. we have significant increase in support for the be the movement that you mention since the war on gaza began this to help us if i can bring you in the, the us took measures implemented measures against the set classes where the settlers, who were involved in violence against palestinians and the occupied westbank. do you think that that could expand that those measures those sanctions could expand and that could all the countries do the same they meaningful in any way. i don't think they are a uh, i mean a ride pulling the sanctions of upsets there's because in the united states is backing is related government and the editor and the government is building the settlements inside the respect. so it's so making this differentiation between
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a low, listless, my said lives in the west bank and that they are out should be off load and shouldn't be sent in. but, but on the other, on the same line that they do not at the u. s. is back in as well as supporting it and also is supporting gets project inside the west bank. so this makes more sense and we don't expect, eh, that section should come from the at united states. and we expect that the free nation should eh, and gather all together except. ready the fed as to this, or i should also remember that eh, and the enter nation in low. whenever people are under it, belonging to remote under admitted to occupation, then it is the right to resist and use absolutely resist. we have that is we have less than a minute left and i'd like to ask miss kelly the
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a very quick last point. after everything you've heard, what do you think needs to happen to de escalate the tensions and be occupied? westbank. how to de escalate tensions? yes. a. i mean the, you know, measure is uh to prevent. uh, settlers one is not a measure that would be too late. i need tension. and if anything i feel like they would, you know, probably be better viewed here in the west bank with the sanctions imposed on them abroad. listen, it's very we as a mentor and community we have been saying ending the occupation and then proceeds on gaza hour or 2 mentors. uh, that would be escalate tensions. all right, and you know, accountability, accountability is cri, is, is impunity is what have gotten us here. accountability and we have plenty of judicial and non traditional mechanisms to to, to, to yeah. so to ensure that perpetrators of violence are held accountable and they
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have not been boucher honey the in the model. thank you very much for that. i'm sorry that we run out of time, but thank you to all of august, most of about goofy in ramallah, and also wiley's how boss in ramallah. and thanks you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website address here, adult. com. and for further discussion to go to a facebook page that's facebook dot com, forward slash agent and side story. you can also join the conversation on x i'll handle is at a inside story from me, elizabeth put on them and the whole team here, bye for now. the the
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