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israel has now impose a complete space on god's sense. so how do they survive if you have no income, how do you live? cost of living rose sharply after the war and ukraine could something like that happen again as a ripple effect of the 1000. what is it us contract is mainly who are benefiting from this when the price of oil goes up, the cost of almost every thing goes up, counting the costs on algebra a. hi, i'm steve clements and i have a question. what can guys this past tell us about it's future? let's get to the bottom line. the for decades guys, i has been the number one hot spot between palestinians and israelis, and it seems so much death and destruction. but it's so much more than today's headlines. for starters guys, it is literally thousands of years old, sitting at the crossroads between africa and asia. it's always been

a vibrant trading city. and empires have bought over it, including the pharaohs, the persians, the greeks, the arabs, and the crusaders, now is israel reduced as the gaza strip, to rumble, killing, and maiming tens of thousands of palestinians after her mazda surprise attacked in october. what's going to become of it? have israel's attempts to seal it off from the rest of the world really worked and will the united states and israel ever recognize the central role it plays in the palestinian struggle. today we're talking with john pier feel you a long serving french diplomat and government advisor who is now a professor of middle east studies as he owns po in paris and he's author of gaza, a history. thank you so much for joining us. let me just start with your book and what, what possessed you, 10 years ago to identify gaza as a rich topic to study and to write this book of its history, the best i was. thank you so much for you. i'm very tiny invitation. i stopped,

you goes thinking about the book decades ago since my 1st visit to go. so i was as early as 19 eighties and i came back and back during goes or trusting to show the strategy and to try the 2nd and to try the 2nd to shut off after. and i think this project stuff showing that this is treat. what is it does have to retreat out guthridge during the games treat most country to hold its history. is that the history of a sudden raising such a forceful as you just mentioned, was essential. is that going to games is very rich history was going against the nature of got enough cos against the social structure of his population. you describe rock of gauze in its historical true form as a place that was lush,

that was prosperous. that was a trading essentially a trading state, essentially a very, very different picture. could you give our audience some understanding of the many thousands of years of the gaza had a very, very different role. busy and you know, sense ability, if you will, between now and, and what used to be it was basically wages as a, uh, the outlet of the, what the has on the does that. so i need to submit the john and see i knew it was a commercial hub between uh i forgot an issue, but also submitted it on the outlet folder. cut off, but it's coming from sir. i've just been in so now this is oh guys that can be known as i said this does that to happen in arabic because the beginning of the 6th century he wrong, i sent him up in my life. one of the great grandfather of perfect mohammed died

didn't get to know why he was running to the top of the so called up here. radio arrayed yesterday's because the guy that was key as a trading both forms of projects that are coming from the start of read. yeah. so did you start with, did you do not use a lot of cost us as expected you out to pose, that was uh, yeah, i just sent to the right. right. and we use of those, you know, call them probably as an kingdom, but also at the same time as a trading foster commission of each other, the huge, the whole cycle, you come and even just city, they have units the to the center. so blood, the beach of battles units will be the 14th century by your move in your commander uh gustavo z. and the each was named after he had your list because it was a 100 for a huge commercial building. is that extended into a full spread sheet?

so he missed like the rest of is a guess. our area was the basically across, followed the trading area and sometimes you're going to free trade every year. free trade zone for the competing. get towers in jerry. yeah. so shop here for 4000 in years, what i'm understanding from you is garza matter. it was on the map of nations. were trading with an intrigue. was happening there. it was an oasis for for the last couple of decades. guys has been getting the massive message. it doesn't matter that the palestine can be an issue that shoved under the rug. tell us about the tension. historical tension between gaza that used to matter so significantly and gods are being told, sorry, we don't even want to pay attention to the israel palestine issue as well. is the key of costs as a link between what i've done the imagine frontier agent today is the cause of the

young going uh, not to balance. the catastrophes is a click to deny your lives, opinion, the aspirations. and this is how does uh, your raises across fold became does us treat just think about the square of the street. we just treat both for the each flexible, left off the wall as a walk independent from the street, the point of view, a z, a wall of style. you are welcome to view. the 1st is fairly a rule from the starting point of view of 19 for j. $1314.00 not and went to was stopped in january 1949 street towards the left. it was a z on the street left off. what was the british mandate by the state? what was our up by this time? because 77 percent of should be commission and 22 percent. the feet of the next buys a should might kingdom of georgia. so this it gets us treat under issue tional.

sorry, t was in fuzzy on the street left of iraq published on and it's just the default. what makes it so that was the 1st 3 entities that made that it also suffered from japan as being an issue. that shows a lot of the guys i becomes who's and that's about uh, must exist. there's something about a student population, the home to the 25 percent of you for completion of spanish time concentrated on the one percent of each former territory. so it's about a senior, i mean, got that cool, you know, was off of north up because from orders are published. i know from the, from the south is that she and strong should start and gather even in very difficult conditions. so this is how does that give us a center by this time? and you said 20 t as they're starting to was struck by the fact that it was not sweet to get into account basis. but as soon as you start your brush,

you that goes most center on shows that i'm of course all of the researchers into the store, but not on the refugees that stayed on the very end of his time. meaning, garza know in 1948 as i understand that prime minister of israel, david been gree on wanted to allow a 100000 of the palestinian refugees who fled to gaza to go back to their village is what was happening there. at that point, it was immediately after this fire, when for the 1st and only time, the united nations organized in switzerland, the siege of flows of the comprehensive piece sculpture rugs noted to settle on the aspect of these fairly or up the street and the most pressing issue was the effect of the refugee. so in order for his friend to deal with such a issue that had been going on proposed, was that 20000 refugees,

the funds of dentists treat won't be resettled into what that becomes the territory if you spend this was an unprecedented offer. and in fact, the last one, a section of tied back a generate to huge debates and just read because that was a very stronger denial of any return to the risk of g backs back to pets. the strategy precondition was for uh, goes up to the next by each man as a tools of what proposed been going to settle important for the whole issue. 6 was the shoes by the states and especially on the edge of that that's for so much. and last, so many lives to protect is it gives us treat, ends up for the end of it. but what is interesting and what you need to sort of wherever need us to remember that been going on is the founder of the state of use,

right? understood from the one that does a because of the concentration of punishing and richard g into the south west corner of east when we presented it shut edge that we dealt with. and since 1949 eastern tried everything was good. huh. and said, oh and uh, i'm afraid that the spines i'm probably because of the magnitude of the destructions that she's waiting on right now between say again, because the answer to get to the easy yes a to be you to choose a product and in question you've written a reset for an affairs article called why garza matters, and i recommend it to everyone to read this in this article, john pierre, you talk about casa, in, in, in part, by the design of is really,

policy has become the hub, the key hub, a palestinian nationalism, and that, that much of what we've seen in the tension we've seen was by, is we'll o and design and creation in terms of the policies it talk. so how did, how does the future look and, and how do you take guys uh, were you argue it's the key to peace and prosperity to become, you know, something it took to get into a different equation right now when you look at the, you know, the the importance of palestinian nationalism is you've written it and you say it's in gaza. you're not talking about ramallah. you're talking about gaza. yes. got a central and your very right one to lines of even a sudden patterson and he does some run a bit of details for years. i didn't get that much attention to get to the website quite each must have meet that is that in 2007. how much 2 goals are against

that? and they got to read the funds are described as a, as in the know, does it need them to realize own voltage costs for their mahmoud abbas. what being elected, the president of the senior people are just a 2 years before should come to does that? does that say my adult phone does have to be separated from the rest of the spend and such was not the case. so there was denied you're a 1st engine, centrally t by his friend, but also the denial of guys us and trying to teach by most of suited. but his team leader sheet. and this will cost us to start if we don't from the side to to repeat the trip. petition would be more violent, smoke blood, these are the previous one. as i started already and i counted shifting, shifting $15.00, each really was on guns options, biking function was those was where one for the boat music. everybody's right.

but the where for the last 4 digits really, except why is it for us to, to shut up? because the 1st the dish pack into for the tree, good zip piece dynamics finish fat. that in 1992 booked power. it sucks. happy with the top priority to didn't gauges trade. yeah, me phone garza but instead of looking for military solutions, looked for political solution. is that towards the beginning of the simple process and 0 slope agreements. so that means that people like to seem totally give sheet as long as these fragments of ballast and indeed just should cost back to the mode . this is international community because it's possible to say that ok, so want to be over that don't really deal. then we stopped it. no, no, no, no. does. i tend to be speech is more,

it seems possible. chelsea southern search to humanity, but also to risk before the last because they were seeing such as the afternoon of the butte, also brocade of guys up for 16 years by the thread was a collaboration or fidgeted dissolves. as she's is brocade, is that need to really consolidate how much greek altogether. and it is, we don't want the samsung truck to the west. that of course, different to the different place she has to be followed. and it does allow us to be altered to the world. so we the tools as a wheat, as being not only for centuries, best for millenniums and falls a little bit. and she told me to reach you to reach for guys a and it's genetic. that's your, your talk in your article, john pierre, about a very beautiful different vision that might have taken place might have,

i should underscore if james wolfensohn had had his way. it was a $3000000000.00 development plan in the, in the 19 ninety's thought about it uh, for gaza. james wolfensohn was president of the world bank. and this was undermined by ariel sharon, the prime minister of israel, who was undermined by other forces. but you talk about the importance of getting back to that kind of thinking of returning gaza to a prosperous, major economic hub. is there any prospect of that happening as you see it? and because you talk about it being the way forward, but who is going to do that? well, again, you know, i'm, i'm just to start using my office in the, in paris. but i can see that the if be still more sense than you know, from the head of the world back. a phone reasonable in 2000 shies for world is $3000000000.00 plan to do look, go to the not,

i'm need to do that. but to invest my understanding of the media industry is owed money for several regions of these trends. monday to trajectory of the state is it written policies officer is fairly set to much know that to give them to the palestinians in 2005, the whole project was smashed only by shown by his court just for the seat of the, such as we're building down everything that's exhaust the problem. disease collection, easiest experience. we're really back so much money on that. i think it was quite a bit because your most of the money is actually be spent for me. i need constricting what is actually being destroyed under our various times with the phone, wrist, you know, it could be, i don't know, 510. i heard incredible mind boggling. she just, just to be believed. what existing or what existed. he's not sustainable. he's not

sustainable. first in young people, it does up of this is right while the future was on the rise and, and this for reason us to be open disparity isn't being open. we open, i'm actually come change of that is your rise as far as the whole region of these fairly close to the peace process and that was so was east really robs are relations. you're a diplomat edited advisor for success is french governments for 2 decades. what would be your advice to not only france but to other governments as they look at this crisis today? and as we try to look forward. well, this very moment, i just the key, no look at any capacity of not in the mall. and a few should on known official stages each over about. i'm convinced that

you are united you as a key role to play. not because the true we should all because of your vision in front of it because it's a survey key challenge because for you and we need to mention that. but there is a connection between the war ukraine, as a warrens immediately stepped, continues playing on both seattle is very clever and you know the falls. is you you, craig, and phone to stop? i caught it not to to be most threatened. well, the oil and gas, i'm not going to be stuck back to the dynamics of to stop and you, you open union is the main trade off. now a few strategies of main don't notice about as to now $40000.00 the leverage on both in standards. but what is more important for you to europe in front of you? and i want to stress that is that in the previous gauge,

we so how much you paid when it done the blind, i mean the least of the crisis is that so she pulls the that can states of america all the way editing, quote and quote that quote, the ship revolution that don't need to blow the, uh, uh, was that yes of the regime launched on his own people. so you won't get on the phone to to, to get you enrolled into resort towards the so called issue g crises of 2015. as long as you have the at the all way. is that for the old? so you're a, as a g, a vested to, i won't even say fighters interest settings issue ending being involved in goes up because of the small band is both the ships in east bed and the policy and the re now the do not to our z n a g a to, to,

to promote situation says is, yeah, and ghost in the, in the present to tactics is i'm not you going to strategic ends in the foreign power to take charge. and because i'm sorry to say america, the katie, it's a vision for peace by letting is destro she up and they asked to do without any revision for the day after because that the european union for its own sake, us to step in. i'm just wondering, does this one feel different, more than a 100 guys, a heritage sites have been damaged or destroyed? you've got the greater mari mosque, the church of saint plus for us, which is what ought to be. the 3rd oldest church in the world destroyed 2000 year old roman cemetery, rock and museum. these are cultural and historic sites. is there something else in your sense going on in this conflict?

it's different than others. it was so, so as you just mentioned, so by me to the destruction of the sites, you mentioned a deep choose centuries off was invasions, occupation, is that being damaged at such a degree? so it's always easy to read. you're quoting because it's part of the memory of many g is that is that he's vanishing in front of our rides. but what is it so to me, more important does a large thing get an impression of the shot? yeah, you know, it is a human human being before the stones, even historical stones ease of costs is it is a women and men of guns. the ends are kept off, trophy is already exceeding every saying is that. but as far as in general or competitors are not about 1940,

like boss ends in mass executives of the student population, rob owner versus of the year 1948 searching cells and ballast and cute morris. now we offer up 23000 for re more, so reduce the number but actually just proportion because it was one percent of the population of the time enough one percent of the population of, of uh, it does uh, as being cube. and is actually the notifications that it's going to stop. you go to when he comes to zig z o, this 6 of the subs in that box was a $750000.00 plus the 1st and units uh, being forced out of the homes. now you are nearly a 1000000000 people well being forced inside yourself. so oh for sure. it is. yeah,

definitely these plays, but in fact the refugees. second where's references? certainly were for just full suite, but for me because sometimes that would be moving from place to place to ups. okay . or run this is a to buy me to does a treasure d e. unprecedented as well. thank you so much for helping us to understand the history of gaza as a great a waste in this region's history. thank you so much french historian john pier, feel you thank you for being with us today. so what's the bottom line after world war 2? diplomats in general, from around the world, created the united nations. they launch the marshall plan to rebuild europe, and they turn the occupation of japan into a re wiring of that nation's politics. it's economy and even national psyche. traumatic time supports us to rethink, to recalibrate and redesign, and that will happen with gaza as well, whether the west likes it or not. israel has cost previous attempts at economic development in gaza, but for thousands of years, gaza has been

a prosperous and losh cross road between north africa and the lavon. helping guys have become what it is always been. is the kind of creative thinking that turns a nightmare into a thriving and robust economy and a state that palestinians will one day be able to cherish and celebrate sure there's a long road ahead. but that's a vision that rhymes with history. and that's the bottom line, the, the one, the, the, the the,

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