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wrong. the closest it has ever been to midnight. they will be met with fire and security rise of anxiety. are you doing sterling radio tape or i'd be that to that's like exploring how exist. central affects to life impacts the human psyche. apocalypse may be coming soon on out to 3 years in and joe biden, faces little competition from within the democratic party. despite concerns about the popularity of the aging presidents as the formalities of the nomination contests begin, does by didn't have what it takes for another 4 years. us selection 2024 on elsa's 0. hi, i'm steve clements and i had a question. as long as us support continues, is there anything that can stop israel's highly destructive assault on gaza from just going on? and definitely, let's get to the bottom line. the

nothing has changed, at least on the surface in blanket us support for israel since october 7th. the us is still supplying israel with heavy munitions and still blocking just about every attempt to impose international sanctions on israel after un as the war and gaza grinds. now into its 4th month with tens of thousands of palestinians killed or maimed. most of them being women and children or innocence. and this conflict is rarely liter, save as a symmetrical work must go on indefinitely. in the aftermath of a ma surprise attack last october, and so far, washington has given council, reportedly strong and emphatic council to avoid civilian casualties. but at the same time, president joe biden has not demanded a ceasefire. even as mount nutrition sets in and millions of people have know where to go, israel's leadership seems to be ignoring most of what they are hearing from the white house. so where's the us drive the g for the region heading or perhaps better yet? where should it be heading? today?

we're talking with aaron, david miller, who worked on us middle east policy at the state department for 25 years. he's now a senior fellow at the carnegie endowment for international peace. and he's also author of the much to promise land. america's elusive search for error is really peace. aaron, it's great to be with you to look at a book on the much to promise land. and the notion about earth is really piece may sounds like fantasy at this moment. and i just want to start asking you about what looks to me kind of like a quagmire of sorts right now. and whether or not you see it the same way and whether you see an off ramp. the 1st of all, steve, thanks for having me. it's great to be here with your work, i think is rarely some palestinians. and let's be clear. you've got never in the history these really tell us any complicated, we entered a phase of terror and violence, the exponential rise of dest. spose on october 7 ending the punishing is really your strengths and, and effort, and ground campaign and effort to eradicate destroyed

a degree on mice. of this goes beyond anything is religion, palestinians witnessed it is in the process of traumatizing both communities. and right now, i think both are in a strategic called a set. there may be way out of this, but it's going to leave the prospects for a stable, secure, prosperous cause. and the possibilities of a conflict ending solution to these early testing and cover choose a more journey carefully or conflict ending solution. um, it's going to be a heavier lift that ever before. and we're farther away from the prospects of creating the kind of environment that is required to negotiate such an outcome. so we're in a long, dark tunnel. and right now it's hard to see uh, a quick or easy way. you have been engaged with negotiations when israel and

palestine for most of your working life, you know, a big a big portion of it. if you, after the clinton ministration term that you serve, you were very frustrated with the situation. you said one of the mistakes we've made is a we 2 off and acted as israel's lawyers in this, in this conflict we're asking is israel's munition supply, it's armaments supply. are we to deployed on one side of the equation to have credibility on both you know, the crushing of, uh is, is, is too much. is it not enough? uh, is the, uh, the right. we have, we struck the right balance. uh, the reality is given uh where we were on october 6, given the president's persona, the alone among modern american president says is deep and abiding commitment. certainly not to imagine you know, governors, but to the idea of israel, the people of israel, security of israel, given the politics and which is trying to navigate a very difficult line between

a republican party. frank, we've been as emerged as the user will, can do no wrong party and a democratic party that is deeply divided. pressing him not only by progresses, but even mainstream democrats to impose some measure of costs and accountability on his roofs. uh, given, given his persona, the politics and the cool reality, steve, that frankly, and the 3 core issues of this conflict kind of destroy him. osh, are you great it without retaining jury is havoc on the, on the palestinians. number one, out of surge humanitarian assistance into a free fire zone. and what to do about the day after and the day after the day after finding the presence leverage frankly, is undermine, to disrupt or re by the fact that we don't have any better answers. right? now and then these really stu, i'm these 3 questions. so i think you asked me where i think joe biden would have

taken us policy in the wake of the terror serge of october 7. i would say we're about where i would predict. he wouldn't be no, be no open breach. in my judgment, with the veteran yell government. i think the president uh frankly, has done some good things. i don't think there'll be a scintilla of assistance into garza, had it not been for tremendous price. sure. on the part of the u. s. on these or at least i don't think they would have been any ah, so just released that have not been for the personal intervention of the president . and i think by now always reports are true that in the 1st several days in the week of october, 7 years riley's were for were prepared to preempt again, just ball in the north. i think by now without the button administrations intercession, we would have had or we might have had, might have had original escalation by now as the president veer too far in terms of

identifying closely with these really is no. i think if there's any course correction, it's the failure or the administration and the president himself to demonstrate the same kind of regard empathy and sympathy for the exponential riser, palestinian das, in the humanitarian disaster that is now the mattress blooming things and folding in gosh, the fact is we could have done a better job lawyer and if you want to use and that's kissing years can seat, by the way, is what was lawyer i resurrected for jim baker. i'm guessing is your memoirs baker loved it? and it is absolutely true that in the course of negotiation certainly came david and i would cut myself among those who i think i felt understand that if you're going to try to figure out a way to create a conflict in solution you're going to have to take more seriously and the needs

and requirements of uh, of both sides and i, i don't think we did data camp david's. i think that's a real challenge given the nature of us is really relationship for any ministry. a karen, are you surprised at the divide today? in the democratic party in the united states, that seems to be happening. there seems to be a generational apathy for the very strong support for is real. and this seems to be counting against joe biden, in terms of popularity at this moment. i think that's largely the case. i think there is a greater diversity in congress and on these real issue, look a reality, your job. i'm alone. i'm on my mind. president's how has this view of israel, which developed at a time when israel was perceived to be not the, not the goliath in your relationship, but it may or strikes to be dave. and i think that that can see it has,

has been altered in large part. it's been altered. i think it made respect by his real success. i mean, these are always have a per capita income that rivals advanced european countries there in nuclear weapons they, they've managed as a consequence of their high tech interest pretty to become a formidable competitor. the notion that is real is perceived to be vulnerable. if not weak there. that conceit, i think frankly, has vanished. if you add to that the increasing right were drift. uh, within these really battery paul degrees. there's no question that adapted and it's due literally days. if by april may, june, pictures of gods or begin to train use railways, concludes the most kinetic part of their ground campaign. we stay away from air strikes and artillery and focus on a more brigade driven,

a set of operations designed to deal with tunnels and the senior. i'm us leaders and here few mandatory assistants can be searched into gaza. maybe then you'll get an, you'll get a break, it is and, and the president may, will be spirit spared. some of the more difficult of you uh, and, and contentious politics which, which has clearly been stirred up by this conflict. so maybe that's how this will that, that's the way this can go with right now. i think the administration has a mattress to hope, but has an expectation that these rarely is by the end of january or early february, we've concluded the most kinetic phase of the ground campaign. and you won't see the kinds of exponential rise in, in power steering and guess and the destruction that we watch without in the 4th month of this war, which is still quite a bit of running room for,

for jeff. as you sort of talk about, you know, sort of exhausting both targets, exhausting the system, but now there's bit bit between now and that point you're just discussed. there's still could be a lot of carnage. and i haven't seen stuff like this where we've seen letters by employees of the white house with the state department percolating out, being red. um, there's one of staff members of the binding 2024 campaign writing an anonymous letter saying your administration's response to israel's indiscriminate bombing and gaza has been fundamentally antithetical to the values of justice, empathy, and the dignity of human life. and we believe it could cost you the 2024 election. we think what we're seeing is a fracturing of use within uh, within an establishment underneath him. have you seen anything like this? you know the field? well, how divided is it and paralyzed, if you will. never, in my 25 years. have i seen the degree of inner turmoil and crisis of

conscience that exist among staff at the department of state white house in there for security council. i am on congressional staff does in palestine now matter in such a way in the region that it can't be ignored again, or are arab states really just biding their time and waiting for this to go away from europe side. i think they have no choice but the up the as to what normalization, for example, between israel and the saudis and cost. uh, it will have to be triggered. uh, this the expression or the formulation that the 20 the secretary blinking use in, in saudi was to provide a practical pathway to a palestinian state. now that, that could be reading many, many different ways and great many different options. but at the same time, i would simply call your attention to the other studying, develop that a single layer of state. now these rules treaty partners in jordan region or any of

the signatures to be a very mccourt, the moroccans, the bi freebies moratti's. i had a potential joiner. saudis have chose to freeze and or break relations with the state of diesel. i find that frankly study the silence, frankly conveyed through that unwillingness to break many respects is definitely i think what it demonstrates it is, however strong their publics are in terms of their public of their public's anger and has still lity toward israel, particularly in a store terry and societies with bach, rain, saturday, ravia, and the emeralds. you're not going to have a lot of to say maybe a little in by her name. but the regimes want to preserve their relations with

these re lease. and by implication with the united states and the fact is maybe we may well be at a point in which there's the right balance between error, state commitment to further your relations with. these are in line one a, but at the same time, using that commitment as the leverage to identify a pathway to what in time in the time could be. still, i believe, and it's still because to abandon and frankly, is to basically giving this to despair and hopelessness. and to the forces of history. who would they could speak to or steve on the program which a don't waste your time on. this is rosa, bellowing will never ever be able to live alongside one of the abuse and security. i'm not, i don't route one. i have 2 kids in their forties. i'm not going to surrender a mortgage. the future to that sort of pessimism. no, forget divorce industry,

let's listen to what they have to say, but let's focus on the forces of diplomacy, which is why even at this moment in this dark tunnel that we're in, i still believe under the right here. she in washington. and use rarely and tell us to the inside there may well in time be way to fashion the parade of horrors. and we went into something better and perhaps the pathway to some, to a better future is really, is about the same way you just said is quite remarkable. an error. and i had not thought of it that way before in terms of the error of governments in the region willing essentially to tolerate and acquiesce to a lot of horror, to keep other equities in place with their relationship with this real. and the argument is basically many of the civilians, the women and the children who are dying are expendable in that equation. and it

raises this really interesting question, which i have been getting out and thinking about for decades as you know, looking at groups that are non state actors, a has blonde lab and on looking at how mos in, in, in palestine the who tease in yemen that look so attractive to populations because they see more legitimately somehow directed at the people while their governments are saying now those palestinian civilians are, are not important in the equation and getting something wrong there. no, i mean i think that although how much does popularity is fascinating, how much is the popularity in the west bank? according to the polls of culture khaki has done relatively recently as trip and yet support for a mouse for the management of the economy. and for the destruction they brought has, has diminished. and that obviously she said, it basically says to you and me,

steve, where you stand and live for it is a lot to do with where you sit. and while the position of westbank or power say is no $260.00 plus have been killed since october 7, hardly ideal, say the lease situation from $2300000.00 palestinians in gaza, half of whom under the age of 15. and now $1800000.00, a sandwich in an area roughly of the size wise, the sides of the district of columbia. 5th of that is more of, i think, how much is prestige clearly and their future has been diminished, but there is no doubt that tuesday is butler so called access of resistance, supported by iran plays, particularly among the younger generation, which is why i think it's critically important that we figure out

a way to create an alternative pathway because this is at almost 75 years old. i have to say, this is a problem. a generational problems cannot be measured simply in terms of how i measured my life in administration. time in 4888 year incomes. this is going to require time. but above all, if we're ever going to get out of this strategic bloodiest cul de sac that we've been in for decades, it's going to require needs leaders or masters or their political constituencies and over their id allergies that prisoners, readers who are willing to look at the past understanding what it takes to bring their respective constituencies along, but are willing to also look to look to the future and smoking. coincidence that break there is in his conflict and coincided with periods in which we had those

leaders begging into doc robina and kings. and even yes or, or for ever being in the 1st incarnation in the early ass for years. that's what we need. and that's frankly right now what we lack. and we also are going to be leadership in washington. that's difficult, given the nature of the us is really relationship. it's a special relationship. and when we manage it correctly, what is special relationship does not become exclusive. unfortunately that's happened far too often. we can actually use that relationship to create better outcomes. not just for these rallies but for their room. palestinian partners. i think that's what we need to think through generationally as we watch um we watch this conflict unfold, but make no doubt we are facing in this november probably one of the most

consequential elections. uh yeah. in, in american history. and i, i, i fully believe i do believe that, uh, again, i bought it for a published and democrats. i work for public isn't democrats. it is critically important for give the editorial comment that this administration give a 2nd term. let me ask you finally for a bit of advice for university presidents, for people who are out there trying to come in and talk and navigate what is become one of the most costly conversations to some careers that you can imagine been very taken with what something bernie steinberg, who was the executive director of the hotel group in harvard from 1993 to 2010, wrote in harvard's paper, in which he said it is not anti semitic,

to demand justice for all palestinians living in their ancestral land smearing one's opponents is rarely a tactic employed by those confident that justice is on their side. what is not happening from your perspective in america's university establishment, that they might be able to talk about the victims in the israeli side, the victims on the pallets to the inside and how to navigate a course. it's better. what do you see going on there? and what would you advise them? it requires an enormous amount of inner strength. i think you have to separate yourselves very often from the majority. in order to educate yourself on the tragedies, the sensibilities, the sensitivities, historical wordings that have occurred to both sides. it's hard to do that, and it's harder to them to serve the fact that this is damages definition of maybe a bit of a, of a, of

a tragedy to, to legitimate the narratives. it somehow cannot find a way to reconcile. and yet they must. so i, i, i'm not sure how many unsolicited unsolicited advice other than to detach yourself from the narrow, narrow anger, and those who have any, any number of agendas that they want to follow through on. and take this through for yourself. imagine, imagine these rarely palestinian problem is an honest, simple jigsaw puzzle. puzzle on your living room floor, right? read as wildly as you can. talk to people outside of, of your media circle,

and your and move outside of your comfort zone. i think that's the only way and i, i'm not terribly hold for an optimistic in this environment that that's going to be so easy. given the anger and i still only that the conflict is generated. well, i have always known you to be candid and your candid today aaron, david miller, a former us mediator for airbus really negotiations now a senior fellow at the carnegie endowment. thanks so much for joining us today, steve. it's a pleasure and thanks for having. so what's the bottom line in the centers of power in the us in europe, the collective west? no one is willing to think that there's an alternative path to the flattening and the gutting of palestinian lives in land. in fact, they're still arguing that it's viable if that weren't the case is real, would be acting differently. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu has personal reasons, other than military ones to stretch out this war. plus,

he knows that president biden's 1st term is going to end this year and nobody knows if he's still going to be president after that. and there are no other parties other than us who have real influence in the world and are willing to use it. so what does washington going do with that influence? ask is real not to kill innocent people with the weapons it keeps supplying the keep this war running. this is a crazy equation. one where we're going to look back ashamed of what we all that go on for way too long. and that's the bottom line. the of the markets aren't as busy as normal. the single largest employee in palestine is the public opinion for c o, p a. the palestinian authority remains the key economic drive of the palestinians, employing a 143000 people. the p a is currently paying an average between 60 and 75

percent of salaries due to each worker because israel is withholding the tax. this is the trade crossing between palestine and israel is rarely saved or released the money, but with deductions and no money for the employees and goals that they was present . joy gordon is putting a tremendous amount of pressure on prime minister benjamin netanyahu to release the funds for the palestinian authority. the us though is claiming it once a revitalized p, a to take a vengeful controlling goes off the wall. anything other than a week? the a is not something is wrong, one's currently view far as he is this week. as it, as the past, it's getting weaker tiles of light scorched fine for you. real quick accounts rising from beneath the rubber. best put stories salvaged on the high seas, brought to the ground breaking sounds from award winning filming

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