state of texas have put up along the us border and in order to help migrants who were stuck on the other side and to provide some time life saving assistance. and we saw the consequences of when us border patrol was not allowed to carry out that duty. last week. there were 3 migraines, a woman, and 2 young children who drowned while they were crossing the river from mexico to the us. us border patrol was not able to help them because they were blocks from access saying that stretch of the river blocked by the state of texas. so now that the supreme court has said, hold on, the federal government does have the clear authority over this. the us border patrol can do as it sees fit and they sit in these situations. so for now we will see those rescues continue and hopefully less loss of life there along the border. soldiers in venezuela are among 32 people, arrested,

accused defaulting to assassinate president, nicholas monroe. prosecutors say that they've all confessed and revealed information about their conspiracy plans backed by the united states. arrest warrants have been issued also for 11 other suspects. including rights activists and journalists and exile. dural has urged the maximum sentence is for anyone found guilty of plotting treason. and if the guy from said boy effect the writer, we were able to dismantle a terrorist group whose purpose was to attempt. and i emphasize this psychotic of session against the life of the president of venezuela, nicholas mate doodle. and against the minister of defense general in chief, letting me up a jury, no lopez going up on the dc part. you on the, with the direct participation of the us central intelligence agency, drug enforcement administration, and the intelligent services of the columbia army. this echo doors armed forces of dismantled internet and satellite tv, connections in a prison controlled by drug traffic and gangs soldiers in the city of marcela,

removed 1500 meters of cable believe to be used for coordinating criminal activities. this is part of a wider crack down on prison based crime, amid concerns about internet access and violence among inmates. meanwhile, soldiers in ecuador say they've made a record of seizure of cocaine. $22.00 tons of the drug was found stashed in around $700.00 parcels bought to be destined for asia, europe, and the americas. and the northern ecuador security forces have captured the leader of a columbia, an arm group. carlos l, also known as l gringo, is expected to be sent back to columbia where he is wanting some nice little venue back in about 30 minutes up. next is the bottom line. stay with the the most direct way for her to get into the brain is by and hailing back in my day

to get tucked up all the time. so bringing them nozzle up to your mouth. yeah, and i would flow through how many times do you think you'd be interested in? oh, my 100. and so why do you were spring? did it ever occurred to that? what your spring might hurt you? hers? i have plans for people. so who do you hold responsible for what's happened to hire steve clements and i have a question as long as us support continues. is there anything that can stop israel's highly destructive assault on gaza from just going on indefinitely? let's get to the bottom line. the nothing has changed, at least on the surface in blanket us support for israel since october 7th. the us

is still supplying israel with heavy munitions and still blocking just about every attempt to impose international sanctions on israel after un as the war and gaza grinds. now into its 4th month with tens of thousands of palestinians killed or maimed. most of them being women and children or innocence in this conflict is rarely liter, save as a symmetrical work must go on indefinitely. in the aftermath of from us surprise attack last october. and so far, washington has given council, reportedly strong and emphatic council to avoid civilian casualties. but at the same time, president joe biden has not demanded a ceasefire. even as mal nutrition sets in and millions of people have nowhere to go. israel's leadership seems to be ignoring most of what they are hearing from the white house. so where's the us strategy for the region heading or perhaps better yet? where should it be heading? today we're talking with aaron, david miller, who worked on us middle east policy at the state department for 25 years. he's now a senior fellow at the carnegie endowment for international peace. and he's also

author of the much to promise land. america's elusive search for error is really piece. it's aaron, it's great to be with use to look at a book on the much to promise land. and the notion about earth is really piece may sounds like fantasy at this moment. and i just want to start asking you about what looks to me kind of like a quagmire of sorts right now. and whether or not you see it the same way and whether you see an off ramp. first of all, steve, thanks for having me. it's great to be here with your work, i think is rarely some palestinians. and let's be clear, you've got never in the history these really tell us any com, okay. we entered a phase of terror and violence, the exponential rise of dest bose on october 7, ending the punishing is really restricts and effort, and ground campaign and effort to eradicate destroyed a degree on mice. of this goes beyond anything is religion, palestinians witnessed it is in the process of traumatizing both communities. and

right now i think both are in a strategic called a set. there may be way out of this, but it's going to leave the prospects for stable, secure, prosperous cause. and the possibilities of a conflict ending solution to these really pulse they didn't cover. choose a more journey carefully or conflict ending solution. um, it's going to be a heavier lift a date ever before and were farther away from the prospects of creating the kind of environment that is required to negotiate such an outcome. so we're at a long, dark tunnel. and right now it's hard to see a, a quick or easy way. you have been engaged with negotiations when israel and palestine for most of your working life, you know, a big a big portion of it you after the clinton ministration term that you serve. you

were very frustrated with the situation. you said one of the mistakes we've made is a we 2 off and acted as israel's lawyers in this, in this conflict we're asking is israel's munition supply, it's armaments supply. are we to deployed on one side of the equation to have credibility on both you know, the crushing of, uh is, is, is too much. is it not enough? uh, is the, uh, the right. we have, we struck the right balance. uh, the reality is given uh where we were on october 6, given the president's persona, the alone among modern american president says is deep and abiding commitment. certainly not to imagine you know, governors, but to the idea of israel, the people of israel, security of israel, given the politics and which he's trying to navigate a very difficult line between a republican party. frank, we've been as emerged as the user will, can do no wrong party and a democratic party that is deeply divided. pressing him not only by progresses,

but even mainstream democrats to impose some measure of costs and accountability on his roofs. uh, given, given his persona, the politics and the cool reality, steve, that frankly, and the 3 core issues of this conflict kind of destroy him. osh, are you great it without really, any jury is havoc on the, on the palestinians. number one, part of surge humanitarian assistance into a free fire zone. and what to do about the day after and the day after the day after the present leverage, frankly, is undermine to disrupt or re by the fact that we don't have any better answers right now. and then these really, stu, i'm these 3 questions. so i think you asked me where i think joe biden would have taken us policy in the wake of the terror serge of october 7. i would say we're

about where i would predict. he wouldn't be no, be no open breach. in my judgment, with the veteran yell government. i think the president uh frankly, has done some good things. i don't think there'll be a scintilla of assistance into garza, had it not been for tremendous price. sure. on the part of the u. s. on these or at least i don't think they would have been any ah, so just released that have not been for the personal intervention. and the president, i think by now is reports are true that in the 1st several days in the week of october, 7 years, trailers were for were prepared to preempt. again, just ball in the north i think by now without the button administrations, intercession. we would have had, or we might have had, might have had original escalation by now, as the president veer too far in terms of identifying closely with these really is no. i think if there's any course correction, it's the failure or the administration and the president himself to demonstrate the

same kind of regard empathy and sympathy for the exponential riser, palestinian desk, and the humanitarian disaster. that is now the mattress blooming things and folding in gosh, the fact is we could have done a better job lawyer. and if you want to use and that's kissinger's conceit, by the way is what was lawyer. i resurrected it for jim baker. i'm guessing is your memoirs baker loved it and it is absolutely true that in the course of negotiation certainly came david and i would cut myself among those who i think failed to understand that if you're going to try to figure out a way to create a conflict in solution you're going to have to take more seriously the needs and requirements of uh, of both sides. i don't think we did that at camp david's. i think that's a real challenge given the nature of us is really relationship for any

administrator. a karen, are you surprised at the divide today in the democratic party in the united states, that seems to be happening. there seems to be a generational apathy for the very strong support for is real. and this seems to be counting against joe biden, in terms of popularity at this moment. i think that's largely the case. i think there is a greater diversity in congress and on these real issue, look a reality. you job, i'm alone. i'm on my mind. president's how has this view of israel, which developed at a time when israel was perceived to be not the, not the goliath in your relationship, but it may or strikes to be dave. and i think that that can see his has been alter, in large part. it's been all 30, i think it made respect by his real success. i mean these are always have

a per capita income that rivals advanced european countries there in nuclear weapons they, they've managed as a consequence of their high tech industry to become a formidable competitor. the notion that is real is perceived to be vulnerable. it's not weak there. that can see, i think frankly, has vanished. if you add to that, the increasing, right, we're drift uh, within these really bobby paul degrees. there's no question that adapted. and it's due literally days, if by april may, june, pictures of gods, or begin to train use railways, conclude the most kinetic part of their ground campaign. they stay away from air strikes and artillery and focus on a more brigade driven, a set of operations designed to deal with tunnels and the senior. i'm us leaders and here few mandatory assistants can be searched into gaza. maybe then you'll get

it. you'll get a break, it is and, and the president may, will be spirit spared. some of the more difficult of you and, and contentious politics with which has clearly been stirred up by this conflict. so maybe that's how this will that, that's the way this will go. but right now, i think the administration has a, not just a hope, but has an expectation that these rallies by the end of january or early february, we've concluded the most kinetic phase of the ground campaign. and you won't see the kinds of exponential rise in, in power steering and guess, and the destruction that we watch. we're now in the 4th month of this war, which is still quite a bit of running room for, for jeff. as you sort of talk about, you know, sort of exhausting both targets, exhausting the system, but now there's bit bit between now and that point you're just discussed. there's

still could be a lot of carnage. and i haven't seen stuff like this where we've seen letters by employees of the white house where the state department percolating out being read . there's one of staff members of the binding 2024 campaign writing an anonymous letter saying your administration's response to israel's indiscriminate bombing and gaza has been fundamentally antithetical to the values of justice, empathy, and the dignity of human life. and we believe it could cost you the 2024 election. we think what we're seeing is a fracturing of use within uh, within an establishment underneath him. have you seen anything like this? you know the field? well, how divided is it and paralyzed, if you will. never, in my 25 years. have i seen the degree of inner turmoil and crisis of conscience that exist among staff at the department of state white house in there for security council. i am on congressional staff does in palestine now matter

in such a way in the region that it can't be ignored again or our arab states really. 2 just biding their time and waiting for this to go away from the year of side. i think they have no choice but the up the as to what normalization, for example, between israel and the saudis and cost. uh it will have to be jagger. uh this the expression or the formulation that tony secretary blinking use in, in saudi was to provide a practical pathway to a palestinian state. now that that could be reading many, many different ways and great many different options. but at the same time, i would simply call your attention to the other studying develop that a single layer of state. now these rules treaty partners in jordan region or any of the signature to be a brad mccork, the moroccans,

the by rainy's year moratti's. i had a potential joiner, saudis have chose to freeze and or break relations with the state of digital. i find that frankly, studying the silence, frankly conveyed through that unwillingness to break many respects is definitely and i think what it demonstrates is however strong their publics are in terms of their public appeal, their public's anger and has still lity toward israel, particularly in a storage area and societies with bach, rain, saturday, ravia, and the emeralds. you're not gonna have a lot of to say maybe a little in by her name. but the regimes want to preserve their relations with these re lease. and by implication with the united states and the fact is maybe we may well be at

a point in which there's the right balance between error state commitment to further your relations with israel on one day. but at the same time, using that commitment as the leverage to identify a pathway to what in time in the time could be. still, i believe, and it's still because to abandon it, frankly, is to basically giving this to despair and hopelessness. and to the forces of history, who would they could speak to or steve on the program which a don't waste your time on this issue is roosevelt. he's will never, ever be able to live alongside one of the pieces of security. i'm not, i don't route one. i have 2 kids in their forties. i'm not going to surrender a mortgage. the future to that sort of pessimism. no, forget divorce industry. let's listen to what they have to say, but let's focus on the forces of diplomacy, which is why,

even at this moment in this dark tunnel that we're in, i still believe under the right here she in washington. and these really and tell us to the inside there may well in time be way to fashion the parade of horrors and we've with into something better. and perhaps a pathway to some, to a better future is really to go. since what you just said is quite remarkable. aaron, i had not thought of it that way before in terms of the error of governments in the region willing essentially to tolerate and acquiesce to a lot of horror, to keep other equities in place with their relationship with this real. and the argument is basically many of the civilians, the women and the children who are dying are expendable in that equation. and it raises this really interesting question, which i have been getting out and thinking about for decades as you know,

looking at groups that are non state actors, has blonde lab and on looking at how mos in, in, in, in palestine the who tease in yemen that look so attractive to populations because they see more legitimately somehow directed at the people while their governments are saying now those palestinian civilians are, are not important in the equation and getting something wrong there. no, i mean i think that although how much does popularity it's fascinating, how much is the popularity in the west bank? according to the polls of culture khaki has done relatively recently as trip and yet support for a mouse for the management of the economy. and for the destruction they brought as has diminished. and that obviously should say, it basically says to you and me, steve, where you stand and live for it is a lot to do with where you sit. and while the position of westbank are power,

say is no $260.00 plus have been killed since october 7, hardly ideal, say the lease situation for $2300000.00 palestinians in gaza, half of whom under the age of 15. and now $1800000.00, a sandwich in an area roughly of the size wise, the sides of the district of columbia. 5th of that is more of, i think, how much is prestige clearly and their future has been diminished, but there is no doubt that tuesday is butler so called access of resistance, supported by iran plays, particularly among the younger generation, which is why i think it's critically important that we figure out a way to create an alternative pathway because this is at the almost 75 years old. i have to say, this is

a problem. a generational problems cannot be measured simply in terms of how i measured my life in administration. time in 4 or 888 year incomes. this is going to require time. but above all, if we're ever going to get out of this strategic bloodiest cul de sac that we've been in for decades, and it's going to require needs leaders or masters or their political constituencies and over their id allergies that prisoners, readers were willing to look at the past understanding what it takes to bring their respective constituencies along. but who are willing to also look to look to the future and smoking. coincidence that break there's in his conflict and coincided with periods in which we had those leaders begging into dot robina and kings. and even the officer ever being in the 1st incarnation in the early ass for years.

that's what we need. and that's frankly right now. what we lack and we also are going to be leadership in washington that's difficult. given the nature of the us is really relationship. it's a special relationship. and when we manage it correctly, what is special relationship does not become exclusive. unfortunately that's happened far too often. we can actually use that relationship to create better outcomes. not just for the israelis, but for their room. tell us standing partners that i think that's what we need to think through generationally as we watch um we watch this conflict unfold, but make no doubt we are facing in this november probably one of the most consequential elections. uh yeah. in, in american history. and i and, and i,

i, i, i'd fully believe i do believe that again, i bought it for a published and democrats. i worked for republicans and democrats. it is critically important. forgive the editorial comment that, um, this administration uh, give a 2nd term. let me ask you finally for a bit of advice for university presidents, for people who are out there trying to come in and talk and navigate what is become one of the most costly conversations to some careers that you can imagine been very taken with what something bernie steinberg, who is the executive director of the hill l group in harvard from 1993 to 2010, wrote in harvard's paper, in which he said it is not anti semitic, to demand justice for all palestinians living in their ancestral land smearing one's opponents is rarely a tactic employed by those confident that justice is on their side. what is not

happening from your perspective in america's university establishment that they might be able to talk about the victims in the israeli side, the victims on the palestinian side and how to navigate a course. it's better. what do you see going on there? and what would you advise them? it requires an enormous amount of inter street. i think you have to separate yourself very often of from the majority. in order to educate yourself on the tragedies, the sensibilities, the sensitivities, historical wordings that have occurred to both sides. it's hard to do that and it's harder to then insert the fact that this is the garbage is definition of maybe a bit of a, of a, of a tragedy to, to legitimate the narratives. it somehow cannot

find a way to reconcile. and yet they must. so i, i, i'm not sure how many unsolicited unsolicited advice other than to detach yourself from the narrow, narrow anger, and those who have any, any number of agendas that they want to follow through one and speak this through for yourself. imagine, imagine these rarely palestinian problem is an honest symbol. jigsaw puzzle. puzzle on your living room floor, right? read as wildly as you can. talk to people outside of, of your media circle and your and move outside of your comfort zone. i think that's the only way and i, i'm not terribly hold for an optimistic in this environment that that's going to be

so easy. given the anger and i still a, that the conflict is generated. well, i have always known you to be candid in your candid today, aaron, david miller, former us mediator for airbus really negotiations now senior fellow at the carnegie endowment. thanks so much for joining us today, steve. it's a pleasure and thanks for having. so what's the bottom line in the centers of power in the us in europe, the collective west? no one is willing to think that there's an alternative path to the flattening and the gutting of palestinian lives in land. in fact, they're still arguing that it's viable if that weren't the case is real, would be acting differently. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu has personal reasons, other than military wants to stretch out this war. plus, he knows that president biden's 1st term is going to end this year and nobody knows if he's still going to be president after that. and there are no other parties

other than the us who have real influence in the world and are willing to use it. so what does washington going do with that influence? ask is real not to kill innocent people with the weapons it keeps supplying. the keep this war running. this is a crazy equation. one where we're going to look back ashamed of what we all that go on for way too long. and that's the bottom line, the or as the as well as for on guys a continues, we bring you late. we are on the grounding dollars a covering. the ongoing is raising sparkman and the suffering. the people told us that we lost displacements and block of resources and from multiply is to refund the data rate and restrictions prevent freedom replacements of rights to worship

from tennessee will continue our coverage of his route, will cabinet decisions the campuses and all the political development part westbank, we continue reporting on the line at this rate he raised with feelings of loss, dissension, and destruction. stay with us for the updates and detail coverage of the wrong cause of the a settled tax upfront takes on the big issue that is of posted to what is happening now. it to the school. thanks. questions, professional and unflinching questions. rigorous, the bank that he added to today is that another thing is taking place. augusta. nothing goes into garza without his real permission. nothing leaves golf though with offers roles. permission allow me to push back for a moment, demanding a ceasefire,

demanding an end to the root causes of all of this violence upfront. without 0, the powell just went on trudging the cost of the $100.00 days into the bowl on costs of the humanitarian protest. retreat is deepening. as the conflict continues, the cost to the is really economy is enormous. plus some taiwan is view president to bring peace and prosperity to the i'm counting the cost on al jazeera hearing the have you had any like that? he has the support of $15000.00 m samantha shell. pick one moment, then asking questions. what do you expect this particular for to translate when it comes to the us selection, refusing for the action? not just give you

a sense of what an easy target this place is. i'll just see it was teams across the world. when you closer to the thoughts of the story, the the alarm serial then yeah, it's good to have you with it. so this is the news. our live from doha. coming up in the program. this our scenes of panic in the fun, eunice displaced, palestinians are desperately trying to escape from these really bombardments the worst single day. last 4 is really soldiers and gaza since the war began at least 24 people had been killed. the.