and the state has no business getting involved in that. and 3 pod, serious explodes the implications of us and people who called lowest the freedom of speech and 1st amendment by how many words would i have to exchange in this legislation? and seeing use it to flush free speech of anyone who supports black was or is involved in protesting for environmental reason. and it's like 10 words pod, 3, the template on out to 0. what's the risk of india turning into a hen? do nation 5 minutes sitting around for moody has just presided over the consecration of a highly controversial temple. he says it marks a turning point. what does that mean for secularism in india? this is inside store the hello and welcome to the program. i need bulk. i've been to you as

a prime minister now rendered moody, has inaugurated a controversial him to 10 pulled in. the northern city of i owed you the shine was built on grounds where a mosque from the local area stood for centuries that was destroyed by him to activists in 1992 and elections. in 2014 moody campaigned, with a promise to build a temple dedicated to the him, to god, lord rum on the very side of that demolish most with the temples, consecration coming early months ahead of a national election opposition. leaders accused him of exploiting religion to win political favor. and as moody seek 6 3rd consecutive time concerns of going that he's building a legacy as a leader able to transform india into a hindu nationalist state. so what does this mean for the future of secularism in the country painting to discuss on the program the 1st this report from how the hashem the looks of the implications of the consecration of the realm temple. this temple buddy k to to load ronda. one of you can do is,

is most of the dieties has been integrated in northern it's the moment that the prime minister in our, in the movie says, go down in history by, is there anybody the high that toby's january, the 22nd of 2024 is not the date written on the calendar. it is the door of a new era. by breaking the mentality of slavery, a nation is standing up a while it's may have been a day of celebration, so the 10s of thousands of new follows. attend homeless lives in the country to folks, memories of the blood shed and sick darian biden's. the temple starting from the ruins web by b must the 16th century mobile era most was turned on by hindu activists. in 1992, it's demolition triggered. some of the worst religious rights india has seen since independence. nearly

a decades ago. that is more than 2000 people. most of them was like any of the 40, into brothers. it's a good day. but what about us? those of us who had ruined, of course, will be in pain on that day our father was killed and the most was the most to building a rom temple in the city of iowa. dia has been of the court of movies, b, j. p. policy supposedly collage and since it was founded in 1980, critics say it's part of the b j. p. plan to establish into supremacy in india. what we have seen is the premise of a board view, which in the indian context as i can do is i ism, in the certainly context. we are seeing a nation designed primarily for him goals. but everybody else and the security there must be a deep and religions are going to get to 2 seconds last because to the opening of the temple also marks the thoughts of motives re election campaign as he appeals to

the hindu majority. to back him for the 3rd term in office, in general elections in april and may. the tempo project is one of several campaigns, promises is fulfilled. the also a vote cash me a special tournament status and then should use an act that creates a pathway for asylum seekers from neighboring countries to apply for citizenship. one doesn't run the same privileges to muslims across the country. most then say they have been systematically attacked and targeted since more they came into paula in 2014. there's a fear that this given manned and all the affiliate is they want to wipe out all traces of most of them lifestyle. mix civilization from the country as mode is governed and b j. p promotes hand do nationalism in india. this temples terrance as a symbol of votes. celebration and contention with most slims and other minorities questioning the place in a country supposedly built on secular volumes and the hash him for inside story.

so let's bring it, i guess, are all joining us of india in new delhi. it shows that it will be the national spokes person for the ruling b j. p policy and locked in our shop. i've tried it on a political analyst on independent journalists, and also in new delhi, is in a long john book, a project journalist, and also all of the demolition. and the verdict. a book that offers detailed analysis on the ram temple control the c a will welcome to all 3 of you. we have an awful lot to cover. sure in the course of this program, but india and mostly christine seek jane. it is a patchwork of many, many, many different religions and that's being part of india strength over the years. it hasn't been, but yet the destruction of the bob, a mosque in this building of the rom temple seems to say one a thing to know in the hindus, that moody's brand of him do nationalism reign. supreme beloved john,

let's start with the thought of fair assessment. over the years and the way it does up at assessment is because uh, this entire aggregation which has to be reached for about 4 digits right from 1984 on what does essentially mean about creating a concept. so history also because i'm going to be in those, i'm the market, the projector, that symbol of relation which was constructed essentially to the dog, the indoors during the day. and so the temple that's actually being said, you know, that the last category demolish and the 3rd but to be essentially to, to store and to do need to divide the rich. the eyes addition was based on after the supreme court came up with the doctor on the day, 2019 since 2020 august, you know,

when construction started in the middle of the funding, the entire front had to be actually trying to fill it up in the right, i made it into a political. uh no, you want me to put it because if i'm for the infinity, find i'm addictions. all right, let me check the, let me in to check the, i mean, this is thing that you call this a political weapon. you've referred to a culture, a victim hood, you said on behalf of the in do population of india as a way of justifying the rebuilding of the construction of this temple shows you only, you are a member of the b, j. p. you are also our role to create a muslim as well. how do you square this with your face and your politics? well, i don't see any issue with it whatsoever. the store and the body can, is for one guy. what the a do you know, and i look so most of the students. so showing me the understand the expos related

to that. and the sentiment really, really to do that well bar though, the mobile and video and bro, all the country of google seduce and she really made minister monitor, made them all. i don't think many people lived any years do that do and, but i'm also, i don't know why most lives should be bothered about this because you don't have to pay for the service all the i'm of the system or the invaders. this is, it's like saying that although you don't know all the more than did human to be guilty at all times about what was done to them by the, for those and for better. so i don't see any connection, but so a little bit butler, i'm the most. so if you need to demolition of what people believe and what the supreme court oppose. and the india also has reported that it's more indeed a job. but the place of rob, hidden, do the book, all the best,

the most was me this, the, not just the causes you funding for that because it has been a is do you have to do is use and you know, all the files all the way to yeah, for sure. sure, sure, sure. so, i mean, let me, let me into check because there was an issue there was an issue and i'd like to attend to charlotte about this. there is, is a very, very big issue when one uses the word invaders because that implies that there isn't indigenous population. and that there is an inviting population of that has less of a right to call themselves, perhaps indian shar, i've your thoughts. yeah. well, i don't consider bob rather than in later today, because bob or was the one who established them, we're going to buy it in india and this danielle, they did not come here to blunder and go away from me yet. and that officer is brought, your name was here, i've been ordered. what are some of the, the, essentially the point find they've been do now the same them as

a beta because i missed what, but did you mean system doing that? because that's of that political objective, you know, to brand it, to him as an in way to do. and that is reflected upon common wisdom of the country today is what he has been doing. and that is what she had in the book here by spreading the paper against mostly the when so good, that's one thing that people should i would like to point out to correct show me as, as the, i mean that be no supreme court and never said that there was there any, there was any evidence of deb of being debt underneath be muff at the so we for the okay, let me, let me mention the subject, sir, because there's a lot that i need to unpack for our view is shots here before we continue the problem as good as you mentioned, was built in the 16th century by the 1st mogul m for a ball. but it wasn't for another 300 years until the 1st dispute is recorded. then

another 100 years after that the press was stopped. and then in 1992 we had no everything the port they seem to. nationalist ball mob told down the building and 2000 people were subsequently killed in writing. and then more recently, india supreme court has recently given the temple the go ahead shows the why do you think the supreme court has made that ruling when? so india is the one bedroom with us. no. i the videos just using the bottom of the warring factions, if you please. well, i do for the damage and the size and bear with me what 3 sites to do in the dispute as well. so if it legally, and the highest part of the land, which is the supreme court, gave a big in favor of the book. it's also advocated last piece of mind. up to 5, it goes for a new model to be made for the no, i'm sorry, accepted it. in fact he was there because his son was actually there at the bug

situation. so let me know the name of the business. is it same as funny? the people who it all came to amanda and the injustice to native americans, the show shows you all the shows i, i think the logic, i think the logic might be slightly full, but it's equivalent to regarding the ultimately related concepts and opening the 15th century invaders model thing to differentiate between invaders, an authentic indigenous tax to the logic now and then you know what you have to do. there is a difference because so many denver, well above good and so many most but they've done some of it. and they were gonna ask, you know, just the service and yeah, i'm not saying that the supreme court said right there was a, not a big step to push the shows here, a 100 on very a very key. i'm very key to bring in the lunch on here because i'm very keen to

reflect upon the court's ruling what somebody cuz this ruling by the supreme court in the long john, i mean, it doesn't seem to take into contents, consideration, ethnic religious sensitivities. what do you think it says about the necessary checks and balances that exist legally and in the are at the moment as well. that sort of this will be what, what it to 2019 is concerned for the kids to come. and this is going to be one of the most questionable verdicts, because the quote is excellent judgment said that when the items are supposed to be installed and nobody says the monitor in the back in december 1949. when we were talking about having to do idaho is being installed correctly. that's why i didn't do, i'd be interested in the middle of the night, but it wasn't installed. that was the last and then the vandalism, which led to the most being towed on december 1992. that tool wasn't fitting into that and that it was very much,

it was so this 5 sitting the one big custody of the please. the last, the last had existing to bit into bodies primarily on the basis of the vision of that particular line. it needs to be also said sort of the, the piece of land was ordered to be able to take to the parties which it was. but so i'm not a single big kind of a get there is no side also more coming up or one for why doesn't the conversation open if i kind of, i'd like to pull that board and this out um, surrounding what many say is a degree of state sanctioned a slumber phobia on behalf of hard line in do nationalists in the country. is this the tip of the iceberg of a protracted policy from the run for moody to squeeze out the rights of minority communities? let me put that to you, shot the way i think you're in the middle of the head. it is very evident

that this is what it is, movies design and because that has some politically, it does have a new model. you've been able to create a this, your 40 uh, even though the configuration side of money, which was focused entirely on him. and he wants to know what to do. know that he had run and particularly that he was, he wants to embrace upon the way that it is. he wasn't brought longer off. i'd have to say that the law never existed. he only brought it so obviously it is aimed at making heavy political capital out of the solar drama. 2 and i bought a job because you don't, you know, not the see any on the brown be in by. i'll be, i'll be getting people going by because it is only in dunlab spitballing things so that they can and guess what is and let me also find out when what belonging is only be explained how the policies of the, in the, in the supreme court. and that in, you know,

there was another interesting argument against it that the don't see the school wrote the mind during what's time, which is a very being another early mobile and for i just explain a good but it was, it was known as i bought. i bought the biggest of the most of that but and the is about his grandson. and he jordan just needed to see that sort of visit online. and this is the mine which is the guys the problem as far as a short survey. and so if we could have a need to talk about the city that we could have related to our program, but that would be similar to you, which i'm sure we can probably discuss. but i want to focus on, on the politics as well as the religion here. because if history teaches us anything, it's but nationalism old for nationalism can get out of time. very, very quickly indeed. and the signs are no run for moody is very, very likely to win this next election. and india won't come and take so it was we

had an opening use of pull compare and what's happening under moody to quote step lives. zine isn't in israel shelves. what are you making but no, i think that's the program suggest and illustrate that you have to see those here who are taking one thing and you have once before we just be able to split 3 or seeing the other the, the was getting the other side of the story, i think give both sides in each put off what you need. you just be instead of giving you both times your deposit would be to tuck in this case before, but you also come from a buyer. and i think what are we seeing more from what the requirements that mean by the government do just by your factors. biopharma g bio questions is that there is a better permission but and that you're looking at 5. so i think examples to the people too big for me and only on the basis of what you're going to be, the one for the community. can you imagine being and you own the and if you put the community waiting for them to track those about the, the claim, the book place,

the drum, which is the day, be sure shows here. it shows here. you, you're in the program precisely to, by the other side of the store. you the good news is i the, the media next, the media that you have done to the, to get and let me speak by vince, because i've given you the other side. this is all, you know, all of the time to be given to me, the street police, the police got to the point because time is running out rather on the point to the point that making it all the binding about the other lots of money to the to the match, it is a log drop is the most of us are the and then you cannot really get draw the, just a religious entity. this is a bar table i vision on the internet. so this is the model claiming the history of okay. okay, so, so, so, so here i've given you a lot of

a time here and i need to get all these see a few to reflect upon logical 26 of the constitution. anyway, india is described as a secular country with every citizen having the right to profess practice and propagate any religions of that choice. the launch on is the indian constitution, no longer fit for purpose. the most do, some definitely is, you know, continues to be in this, by the way, cuz we have to be the one that, that says be continuing to buy the pgp. it definitely is not the thing to the words of the constitution. and since the set of money in my, on the 22nd of january, the brand sold also the reason for calling the religious ritual the all the joint on august 9th, 2020. also in the new way to get the bottom of the building was well the foundation of big wadley and also very the data in may 2023 at

the midst of what is the one 1st for all of those religious rituals, the find the so stocks before me, every in the in the sure. then so you say it will. so you'll said you're suggesting alonzo, and that there is an inappropriate conversion between religion and politics. that undermines the secular foundations of the state of india. that's why i believe the lines of separation between the politics and between indoors and gives days of getting blown. in fact, it was really, you know, have completely disappeared. and i think this is a good turn to the 2nd level, but it's supposed forward to india was phone, right, shar shamrock, can i bring you on in on that? because we do do things to blame here. what's happened to congress potty? the policy that enshrined a lot of this talk about secularism in the 1st place and they to blame it for not doing it off. when i, i fully agree with that the, uh, the opposition,

ive been not really aggressive on the issue. and then they, i mean, don't think about all the media be assigned to, you know, what, all the con, the constitution of india on the me, the order on the board or the secular. got it sort of the constitution onto the speak in terms of the talking about them, but i'm based on the manual. i wrote the constitution, but they one horse in his name was old, but they are doing every thing demolish the constitution of the i wouldn't be surprised if they manage to get a huge mandate, which they are targeting in this new election. it would probably amend the constitution, although they change the constitution because there is to make in the art in those days i be the communist in particular have not played the desired drawers, no place to oppose this, even if they cannot do it because they don't have a new way to go straight into the ottoman, but they have every reason to doubt that it's because they are the ones the communist party found to be where the in the, in the 1947 been in the,

of the game and to bring the government says all that on why there were in the for decades and decades. and now that they are honored by the b b, they be probably, i feel i have some dogs that may be be gone. this is a shy of really playing the waiting for that. you know, but it doesn't me because they on so somewhere down there feel that it's my hard bed even though most it's because the in the more money and the okay. and they are assessed. they have been what it them. so it's up to the minds of the people. so i want to return to, to shows the shows here. let me present you with some of these findings by fact check a india and, and do to watch the track hate crimes. they say they've been hundreds of attacks by him do mobs against muslims and other religious minority. so we're talking about lynchings and beatings and several b, j. p. leaders, members, of course, of your policy, including a federal minister for you in a tooth of getting away with hate. speech is now written from moody a bold thing,

this kind of behavior. so do things for a well, let me 1st though a few bucks the place made by the proceedings. because uh, 1st of all, i would like to say that this policy has been the most of the party lives have been used as well by the entire part of this is based on identity politics. 4 digits of religion and 5 in the late 1980 before the back roads will soon open. there was a judgment by supreme court given did do a wonderful job of. and in fact, it was the congress government led by rod. you've got to be rich, or what the supreme court foss an origin is, or need to please the muslim clarity that also the mississauga any. oh, at beach you got the of the religion the you're, you're not answering my question here. my question,

my question is because most of the old, the main things on violence against and on and do you mind or if you're not coming to that, i'm going to that if you, if you don't you your listing at times because with the reading i would have come to that you visit the 1st time buying the subject. again, this is a good go ahead way say so. so let me tell you the bonus bother you haven't done. has been a very familiar and fuzzy. and this will be just because actually richard is not the knowledge of it, but the supreme part of a dig that this is the above link seems to be talking about about hundreds and thousands, i think. and i think it's just so that you say that no, i mean, yeah, is a big subject. differences are responsible. they're heading to so and, but it depends and also members of different thoughts look good and it should not happen, but you get all the more developments. do you know that you're looking to come in? right? and brian and it hits price. they have been much more is the time of you being to

receiving the, the government, in fact, the device and these, the mode of getting it happen in the name of really how to address plane, how it shows you. how do you explain the good you are right since 2002 shows. yeah . how do we explain the good drawing line? so 2002. when the run for moody was governor of goods, you're opting, which 2000 people were killed and into ethnic violence when they're under moody was off whether he could do anything to stop the violence. he said he wished that he had control the media a little bit, but so what does that say to you about into community relationships? yes, yes, i really want to come to that. let me tell you that the, that the every core india has given a logic and it's on a basis. that is, the more the i've been, i've been dives for almost a year that the device and even drive to poverty. or maybe the book is because it happened on the loss of the phone with gomez. nobody talks about the those people who died in those rights were not any. there was lives in who died and the job was

so i think i need to cherry pick a i didn't bring mr. was, i'm this is my, i'm the to be booked the thing. yeah. i'm a political activist better or a bit of an academic right. they are, but my they want to pause more. these go really because because there's no one they have no job. all right, so it shows you, it shows you, i assure you there's nothing mysterious about. so all reporting here on inside story. but listen, we are approaching the end of our program and i want you to reflect on something the render. moody has said himself. he said this is the door of a new era for india. let's start with the shout outs. what do you make of that? to what we have from the, the congregation that goes is very evident that he's trying to tell people that today. and since he also talked about $500.00 yards of liberty, which is a lot of the, obviously they're putting to the room like we is that our friends is largely aimed at muslims, which is more of other than the other. was the company been don't,

don't talk about the british rule in india big, but is that sort of just do 500 yards of liberty and then talking about the beginning of a new era. it's very evident that what we are in for and that the hindu nationalist bobby wants to establish him. do right, we have new specs yet, which are, which is what they are in the yet images do. and let me just one thing i want those uh we are coming towards the end. the other right? the the good job, right. what state sponsor big was involved in the weather. when did you go to? what is the, what is the right of the brain such great speak as you avoid being startled equations. i'm afraid we have run out of time, but it has been an absolutely fascinating conversation. shows that only the launch on more capacity and sharps prod on many facts and thank you to you for watching and you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. now, is there a don't comment for further discussion?

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