it's, i think, is the most difficult press than our part to answer facing realities. us vito, in the security council, this is a major stumbling block, is a problem to access it. you hear the story on talk to how does era what's the risk of india turning into a hen do nation 5 minutes sitting around for moody has just presided over the consecration of a highly controversial temple. he says it marks a turning point. what does that mean? for secularism in india, this is inside store the hello and welcome to the program. i need bulk. i've been to you as a prime minister now rendered moody has inaugurated a controversial hindu temple. in the northern city of i owed you, the shrine was built on grounds where a mosque from the local areas stood for centuries that was destroyed by him to

activists in 1992 the elections in 2014 moody campaigns, with a promise to build a temple dedicated to the him, to god, lord rum on the very side of that demolish mosque with the temples, consecration coming early months ahead of a national election opposition. leaders accused him of exploiting religion to win political favor. and as moody seek 6 3rd consecutive time concerns, the growing that he's building a legacy as a leader able to transform india into a hindu nationalist state. so what does this mean for the future of secularism in the country painting to discuss on the program. the 1st this report from how the hashem the looks of the implications of the consecration of the realm temple. this temple dedicated to load rob is one of whom do isms most of the dieties has been integrated in northern india. it's a moment that the prime minister and the more the says will go down in history by.

is there anybody the high that toby's january? the 22nd of 2024 is not the date written on the calendar. it is the door of a new era by breaking the mentality of slavery, a nation is and to go to the book why it may have been a day of celebration for the 10s of thousands of new follows and almost lives in the country to folks, memories of bloodshed and sick darien bindings. the temple stance of the ruins went by bri, must the 16th century mobile era. most was turned down by hindu activists in 1992. it's demolition triggered some of the worst religious rights. and you have seen since independence. nearly a decade ago, that is more than 2000 people. most of them most likely of the 40, into brothers. it's a good day. but what about us?

those of us would ruined, of course, will be in pain. on that day, our father was killed in the most was the most 21980. critics say it's part of the b j. p. plan to establish into supremacy in india. what we have seen is the pretty much the overboard view, which in the indian context as i can do is i ism, in these fairly context. we are seeing a nation designed primarily for him goals. but everybody else and the security there must be a deep and religions are going to get to to 2nd plus, which is to the opening of the temple also marks the thoughts of motives re election campaign as he appeals to the hindu majority. to back him for the 3rd term in office, in general elections in april and may. the tempo project is one of several campaigns, promises useful field. he also a vote cash me a special low tunnel state is an entry to use an act that creates a pathway for asylum seekers from neighboring countries to apply for citizenship.

what doesn't run the same privileges to muslims across the country, mostly and say they have been systematically attacked and targeted. since somebody came into paula in 2014, there is a fear that this given manned and all the affiliate is they want to wipe out all traces of most of them. lifestyle. mix civilization from the country as maurice govern and b, j. p promotes hand do nationalism in india. this temple stands as a symbol of votes, celebration and contention with most slims and other minorities questioning the place in a country supposedly built on secular volumes and the hash him for inside story. so let's bring it, i guess, are all joining us of india in new delhi. it shows that it will be the national spokes person for the ruling b, j. p. policy and look now show a problem on

a political analyst on independent journalist and also in new delhi. is milan, john, book of project journalist and also all of the demolition. and the verdict. a book that offers detailed analysis on the ram temple control the c a welcome to all 3 of you. we have an awful lot to cover. sure in the course of this program, but india into mostly christian seek jane. it is a patchwork of many, many, many different religions and that's being part of india strength over the years. it hasn't been but yet the destruction of the bob, a mosque in this building of the rom temple seems to say what a thing. so no one the hindus that moody's brand of him do nationalism reign supreme the launch i. let's start with the result of fair assessment over the years . and the way it does up at assessment is because uh, this entire application which has to be reached for about 4 days, right? from 1984 on what does essentially mean about creating a cause. and so history also because i'm going to be induced,

i'm the mom projector, that symbol of relation which was constructed essentially to the dog, really indoors during the video or yeah. so the temple that's actually being said, you know, that the last category demolish and that there, but to be essentially to, to store tend to do need at the bottom of it, which would be an additional based on after the supreme court came up with the doctor on the day, 2019 since 2020 august, you know, been construction started in the middle of the band and they did died at the front, has been actually trying to fill it up in the right. i made it into a political, the government for the infinity fundamental elections. all right, let me check the, let me have to check the, i mean, this is thing that you call this a political weapon. you referred to a culture, a victim hood,

you said on behalf of the in do population, the of india is a way of justifying the rebuilding of the construction of this tempo shelves. yeah, it will be your member of the b j. p. you are also, i wrote to create a muslim as well, how do you square this with your face and your politics? well, i don't see any issue with it whatsoever. the is fine. do or the body can is for one got what the a and the do, you know, and i look so most of the students. so showing me the understand the expos related to that. and the sentiment really related to that whole bar, though, the mobile and video and bro, all the country why most lives should be but it about this because you don't have to pay for the service all the i'm of the access to all the videos. this is like

saying that all the, you know, the, all the martin did humans should be guilty at all times about what was done to them by the fall, far those and far better. so i don't see any connection, but so a little bit butler, i'm the most. so if you need to demolition of what people believe and what the supreme court oppose. and the india also has your bosses that it's more indeed a job, but both place a rob, ahead and do the book all the best. the models was, needs this, the, not just the cost of you funding for that because it has been a do you have been did use and you know, all the files or router waited. yeah. for sure. sure, sure, sure. so, i mean, let me, let me into check because there was an issue there was an issue and i'd like to turn to show us about this. there is, is a very, very big issue when one uses the word invaders because that implies that there isn't indigenous population. and that there is an inviting population that has less

of a right to call themselves, perhaps indian shar, i've your thoughts. yeah. well, i don't consider bob utter them in later today because bob or was the one who established them, we're going to buy it in india and the stadium. they did not come here to london, go away from me yet. and that also is brought to me was here and there weren't what are some of the, the, essentially the point find they've been do now the same them as a beta physically that mr. what, but did you mean system doing that? because that's of the political objective, you know, to brand it, to him as an in way to do. and that is reflected upon common sense of the country today is what he has been doing of that is, was she getting the book here by spreading the paper against mostly the when so good does one thing that i would like to point out, who could i showed me as,

as the, i mean that be no supreme court never said that there weren't there. are there any there was any evidence of deb of being debt underneath be muff add the so we for the okay, let me let me make sure because the subject, sir, because there's a lot but i need to on the tax on a view is showing here before we continue, the problem as good as he mentioned was built in the 16th century by the 1st mobo m for a baba. it wasn't for another 300 years until the 1st dispute is recorded. then another 100 years after that the press was stopped and then in 1992 we had no everything the port they seem to. nationalist ball mob told down the building and 2000 people were subsequently killed in writing. and then more recently, india supreme court has recently given the temple the go ahead show of why do you think the supreme court has made that ruling? this is the slow. i'm the easiest just using the bottom of the warring

factions, if you please. well, asking for the damage, and there was a live site and they will, they what 3 sites to do in this dispute, and the legally and the highest part of the line, which is the supreme court, gave a big in favor of the book. it's also advocated last piece of that, up to 5, it goes for a new model to be need for the, i'm sorry, accepted it. in fact he was there because his son was actually there at the situation. so let me know the name of the business. is it same as funny the people who in the fall came to amanda and, and the injustice to the different medicine. so i showed you on the shortly i, i think the logic, i think the logic might be slightly full, but it's equivalent to regarding the ultimately related consent and opening the 15th century. innovative model thing to differentiate between invaders,

an authentic indigenous tax to the logic. now and then you know what it is you have to do, there is a difference because so many denver, well above good. and so many must put this on top of it. and they were gonna ask, you know, just the service and yeah, i'm not saying that the supreme court said right there was a not, it's not me suck too, but shows the shows here are very, very t, i'm very key to bring in the lounge on here. because i'm very keen to reflect upon the thoughts ruling what you make up this ruling by the supreme court in the long john. i mean, it doesn't seem to take into contents, consideration ethnic religious sensitivities. what do you think? it says about the necessary checks and balances that exist legally and in the are at the moment as well. that sort of this will be what really to 2019 is concerned for the kids to come. and this is going to be one of the most questionable verdicts because they go to excellent judgment,

said that when the items are forcing the store and nobody says the monitor in the back in december 1949. pardon me. what's the do idle is being installed? correctly that's why i didn't do i to be that's the night, but it wasn't installed. that was the last and then the vandalism, which led to the most being towed on december 1992. that 2 wasn't fitting into that and that it was very much, it was. so this 5 saying that a 101 big custody of the please. the last, the last had existing to the into bought these by the, on the basis of the vision of that particular line. it needs to be also said sort of the, the piece of land was ordered to be able to take to the parties, which it was, but so i'm not a single because of a get that is northside auto mall coming up. i wonder why doesn't the conversation

open if i can, i'd like to pull that board miss out. surrounding what many say is a degree of state sanctioned a slumber phobia on behalf of hard line in do nationalists in the country. is this the tip of the iceberg of a protracted policy from the run for moody to squeeze out the rights of minority communities? let me put that to you, shot the way i think you're in the middle of the head. it is very evident that this is what it is more these design. and because that has some politically, it doesn't have the model alone and particularly that it does. he wants to embrace upon the way that it is. he wouldn't breath logged off. i'd have to say that law never existed. he only bought it so obviously it is aimed at making every political capital out of the sort of drama. 2 and i bought a job because you don't, you know, not the see any of the brown be invited. i'll be,

i'll be getting people going by because it is only in dunlab spitballing things so that they can engage wanted. and let me also find out when we like it is already explained, are the policies in the, in the, in the supreme court. and that in, you know, there was another interesting, the argument against it that the don't see the school wrote the mind drawing up. what's time in which is a driving another area broke around for i just explained. i don't know, but it was, it was known as r. i'm one of the biggest of the most elaborate and the is about his grandson. and he just needed to see that sort of visit online. and this is the remind which is the guys the problem as far as a short survey. and so if we could have a need to talk about the city that we could have related to our program, but that would be similar to you,

which i'm sure we can probably discuss. but i want to focus on, on the politics as well as the religion here. because if history teaches us anything, it's the nationalism old for nationalism can get out of time very, very quickly indeed. and the signs of november moody is very, very likely to win this next election. and india won't come and take so it was we had an opening use a pool compared what's happening under moody to quote step lives. zine isn't in israel shelves. what are you making but no, i think that's the program suggest and illustrate that you have to see those here who are taking one thing and you have once the go with just be able to split 3 or seeing the other the, the was getting down the side of the story, i think give both sides in each put off what you need. you just be instead of giving you the would be to talk in this case before, but you also come from a buyer. and i think what are we seeing more from what the foreman said can be by the government do just by your factors. biopharma g bio questions is that there is

a better permission, but i'm that you look, you get 5. so i think examples to the people too big for me and only on the basis of what you want to be the border community. can you imagine they give you a little bit of an issue, percentage of the community reason for them to track the book about the, the claim, the book place, the drum, which is the, the short shows here. it shows here. you, you're in the program precisely to, by the other side of the story you the use inside the, the media next, the media that you have done to the, to get and let me speak by vince, because i've given you the other side. this is all you know of the time to be given to me, the street police, the police got to the point because time is running out rather on the point to the point that making it all the binding about the other lots of money to the,

to the match it is a log drop is the most of us are the and then you cannot really get draw just a religious entity. this is a bar table i vision on the internet. so this is a bar claiming the history of okay. okay, so, so, so, so there are given you a lot of the time here and i need to get all these see a few to reflect upon logical 26 of the constitution. anyway, india is described as a secular country with every citizen having the right to profess practice and propagate any religions of that choice. the launch on is the indian constitution, no longer fit for purpose. the most do, some definitely is, you know, continues to be in this by the way, cuz we have to be the one that that says be continuing to buy the pgp. it definitely is not the thing to the words of the constitution funding since the set of money in my, on the 22nd of january and the brand itself was also the reason for holding the

religious ritual the all the joint on august 9th, 2020 also in the new way to get the bottom of the building was well the foundation of big wadley and also very jointly nominated in may 2023 at the midst of what is the one forceful omen. all those religious rituals. the find the says thoughts, football? me every in the in the sure. then so you, so you'll, so you'll said you're suggesting alonzo and that there is an inappropriate conversion between religion and politics that undermines the secular foundations of the state of india. so that's why i believe the lines of separation between the politics on between indoors and gives days of getting blown. in fact, it was really, you know, have completely disappeared. and i think this is

a good turn to the 2nd level, but it's supposed warmer to india was phone, right, shar shamrock, can i bring you on in on that? because we do do things to blame here. what's happened to congress potty? the policy that enshrined a lot of this talk about secularism in the 1st place. are they to blame it for not doing it of what am i gonna doing because they don't have a new way to go straight into the ottoman. but they have every reason to doubt that it's because they are the ones the be going to swap the found to be or where the, the, in the 1947 been. and you haven't given to brandon gomez has all that on quite their word and yeah, for the decades and decades. and now that they are honored by the b, b, they feed somebody, i feel i have some dogs that may be become, this is a shy of really playing the waiting for that, you know, but it doesn't be because they also don't bed down then they feel that it's my hot bed, even though because the in the more movie and the because these findings by far

check india and, and do to watch the track hate crimes. they say they've been hundreds of attacks by whom do mobs against muslims and other religious minority. so we're talking about lynchings and beatings and several b, j. p. leaders, members of course of your policy including a federal minister for you in a tooth of getting away with hate. speech is now written from moody a bold thing, this kind of behavior. so do things for well, let me 1st though a few bucks the place made by the proceedings because uh, 1st of all, i would like to say this part of this party has been the most of the party muslims have been used as well by then guy bought it, this is based on identity politics, 4 digits of religion, and 5, in the late 1980. before the book about roswell stone open, there was a judgement by supreme court given did do a wonderful job of. i'm in fact,

it was the congress government led by rod. you've got the big or what the supreme court foss an origin is, or need to please the most lives larry, that also the massage any oh, at the, to the of the religion. the you're, you're not answering my question here, but my question is because most of the old, the main things on violence against non and do you mind or if you're going to that, if you, if you don't you your listing at times because the evening i would have come to that you visited this much time by any subjecting and this is a good go ahead way say so. so let me tell you the bonus bother you haven't done it has been a very familiar and fuzzy. and this has a b just because actually rigid is not to an audited, but the supreme part of a dig that this is the above link. she said, you're talking about about hundreds and thousands, i think, and i think it's just so that you say that no, i mean, yeah, is a big subject. differences are responsible in doing also. and then it depends and

also members of different thoughts, look good and it should not happen, but you get all the more developments. do you know that you're looking to come in? right? and brian and it hits primes they have been much more is the time of you be a to receiving the most of the government, in fact, the device and these, the most getting that it happened in the name of really how to address plane, how it shows you how do you explain the good you are right since 2002 shows. yeah. how do we explain that? could you write lots of 2002? when the run for moody was governor of good, you're opting which 2000 people were killed and into ethnic violence. when the render moody was off, whether he could do anything to stop the violence, he said he wished that he had controlled the media a little bit. but so what does that say to you about into community relationships? yes, yes, i really would rather do that. let me tell you that the every pull it in. yeah.

has given a logic and examiner because that is the more the i've been, i've been dives for almost a year that the guys didn't even drive the deposit. or maybe the book is because it happened on the loss of the phone with gomez. nobody talks about the those people who died in those ride, but not any. there's no talked about $500.00 yards of liberty, which is all the obviously that's what i'm doing. the bike way is that evidence is log me in that mostly it is, which is most other than the other. what's the got to be been don't, don't talk about the british rule in india big. but is that what is do $500.00 yards of liberty and then talking about the beginning of a new era, it's very evident that once we are in for and that the new nationalist bobby wants to establish him to look it out to us. and everything is good even explained to torture,

all types of torture. it was unbelievable. they would visit us with the bucks of their guns on our heads. 5 soldiers, speeding poor. we've been occupied and imprisoned on heard voices. very few people and it's rather hard sitting up against the door right now. i want to be one of them. connect with our community and talking to conversations you will find elsewhere. he's healthy, the human noises. but also i want to want to know as a human, to have a connection with the stream on out to 0 in depth investigations give compelling insights into total storms from asia pacific one. 0, $1.00 east on out to 0. it's another day of struggle for palestinians living in the north shunts refugee care, just hours earlier. israel's army once again storms the camp,

its former bulldozers sticking up roads, its forces destroying infrastructure. a short walk of a narrow alley, we find that out. whose family home was severely damaged during another incursion 2 weeks ago. did that and her family haven't been able to stay here since palestinians believe by utilizing these tactics over and over again. israel is attempting to turn them against the resistance. but no matter the amount of devastation everyone we speak with says that strategy works.