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and other 5 will be opened by december of this. cuba so called economic engine continues to stall, as evidenced by these old convertibles standing idle in old havana, for lack of foreign tourists. millions of cubans depend on tourism to change the fine work i spend money and others make money. the probation of cruise ships imposed by donald trump has impacted us a lot. the streets are empty. there are no tourists almost anywhere. so the big question is, why are the building so many new hotels? new hotels are being built with government money on property, not being claimed in us courts choose one party state system, eventually change. they could then be bought and sold. industry officials insist there's simply preparing for a tourism boom of feet that will take more than just new hotels. during his visit to israel following the october 7th,
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the tax us presidential bite and when the country not to repeat the mistakes the u . s. made in response to the 911 attacks. what is israel doing just that? and why is the us refusing to call forth ceasefire? alas, the director of the award winning film fahrenheit, $911.00, author and activist michael moore and upfront special the michael moore. thanks so much for joining me and upfront. thank you. thank you for having the course. you of course made a very famous movie called fahrenheit 911, which criticized the us as response to the attacks of september 11th, 2001. you chronicled the panic and rushed to allow the government to spy on its own citizens. the decision to invade iraq and country that had nothing to do with $911.00. and the ways that the defense industry profited off the war. israel is now calling october 7th. there on $911.00. what do you make of that comparison? and you see the similarities of parallels to how these relays are responding. well,
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it's ironically, it's a, it's a very apt description in the sense in terms of how the united states responded to 911 and, and how is rivers responding out? i think president by the both when he was there. and since he's come back to the united states, uh, has essentially said don't make the mistakes that we made, that we were very much in a rush toward revenge. we were very, i mean, everybody here. anybody who remembers that day i, it was frightening. it was a sense of pretty much, i'm guessing how most israelis of charles for many years, something like this would never happen. and then it happens in the fact that it took hours, 6 hours, 8 hours, 12 hours before help arrived. um,
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i think it has discombobulated as a lot of people in the, in the sense of, of kind of other horror and fear. human beings do not act well when they come from a place of fear and tear. that's why a lot of times terrorism does its job. i think i but i wanna say that i'm waking up the morning. it's saturday morning on october 7th. and it's never a good day on this planet. when you wake up and you hear the 1400 of our jewish brothers and sisters have been slaughtered it's, it's, uh, none of us i think want to live in that world. and so, um, so i think i understand all the initial responses and i understood the response and the desire for revenge. haven't gone through that time. and so you know,
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all the mistakes we made, as you said by 1st and reading and began to stand and reading rec, um for what? that's an interesting question the for what the, what was this really about question? in regard to 911, let people to say ok, this was maybe just a pretext, uh, you know, for invading iraq with the worry that these really government may similarly use october 7th as a pretext to take over more of guys the, to expand into westbank or maybe go to war with iran, could this moment of har and in fear, turn into an opportunistic moment for something else as well. i think it already is . and, and let me just say this, and this is what maybe one issue that most people on the right or the left a pro israel pro palestinian pro human life. um and, and i think i'm guessing just the polls i've seen just it just out of his real
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um and then yahoo has to go the, the, the people were not protected. what was he doing? why did have they pulled the army back? why? we know one reason they were pulled back into the west bank was to support the settlers and their violence against the cost indians. i mean, there is going to have to answer for this is not going to go well for him. and, and i think that it's very hard to trust the things that are coming out of his, his administration. and i, um, um, the slaughter that we're witnessing now is so i don't know how to put words to it. frankly. i mean, just what, what's happened? the last few nights, but really what's happened the last few decades and that i as in american
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and i'm helping to fund that united states as the bank of what's around the funding. michael, i mean it's, that's so important, right? because on the one hand, as you mentioned earlier, president biden says, hey, israel don't make the mistakes we made. we were looking for justice and we made mistakes. at the same time, he's asking for more military aid. you know, he, he said that, you know, innocence being killed is just the price of waging a war. you can't square that circle easily. what do you do? what should that us be doing? well, we should not be trying to increase the flight or mean should that be funding the war i, i think, you know, most americans have no problem with making sure that there are no more is really killed and providing for the defense. but that's really not what's going on right now. um, how do you justify the, the,
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the slaughter of children, children and some of these sites. half of the dad, half of the wounded are children. what are we getting back? well, what do we, what are we trying to do? how, what, what did the children do? and how are we defending israel, having more dead children? and anybody who can say right now, you know, especially people, so i support israel and i will, you know, defend israel and then support and fund the massacre of innocent civilians and children. if you have no credibility, then when you say the support is really well, the kind of hypocrisy, that kind of contradiction isn't just with people with government stuff, including our government. i mean, human rights. why don't put it perfectly. they said to have progress. the in double standards of western states are flagrant and obvious. and then of course, the us and other wisdom governments have to apply the same principles regarding
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russian atrocities and ukraine as they would with quote israel's brutal disregard for civilian life in god. it seems like we pick and choose when we're going to be outreach when we're going to intervene when we're going to have a moral critique. would it be fair to say that the u. s. foreign policy position is fundamentally hypocritical? it is, but i think what's really at the core always of our foreign policy is what's best for us. and, and, and, and so is real in the, and from the very beginning of the, of the creation of israel and the american government. the american military has always seen this as a good thing for us that we have this base there that we, that we have all the kind of a intelligence apparatus and everything. all the things that is real does basically to make sure that the oil supply is there in the middle east. is that
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good? is that going to be? we're not going to be impeded by this. and i think to, and i, 9, i've had, you know, is really friends say to me we, we get that, what's really behind this either, either politically or, or militarily. why? so the united states has been using israel in that way for many, many years. and the other thing that comes to mind though is the roles of the media plays. i get, i think back to your work. you know, in 911 the media help beat the drum for war. you know, post 911, they beat the drum for war in iraq. they beat the drum for war and if can to stay and they continue to beat those wardrobes. a. similarly, today we see the media adopting pro is real approach pro war approach not as uniformly as, as post 911. their voices urging caution their social media, which is far more complicated and diverse and sometimes messy. but at least we see more descent than we did 20 years ago as the media learned
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a less than how we learned a lesson from before. i think so, i think because of the, the what's still going on back and forth about the hospital. that was bon uh, was, it is rarely a racket. was it a policy that'll come all by the way, we will all know the truth of everything. you a hi, i'm confident of that. but in the meantime, the new york times and the others have had this sort of back away from we've got to make sure we're not, you know, we, we have to say every time anything that comes out of guys i know from the palestinians. we have to say this has not been independently confirmed and which right, we should all know that anyways as consumers of media. but i, but i still hear anybody in the media whenever somebody comes out of netanyahu's miles, whatever his government is saying, it should also be have the caviar attached to it. we have not been able to
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independently confirm what benjamin netanyahu would say. and, and so we're in the fog of all this right now. we don't know a lot of what, but wait, but everything that, that he and his government very right wing government has been saying and doing must be treated with a lot of skepticism. absolutely. and it's a right wing government. and so sometimes it's right when governments, you know, right wing media outlets are very gentle. the thing about this case is that it's not just the right wing media. that's not being sufficiently critical. it's everybody. i mean, look at supposedly centrist mainstream media outlets like cnn. i mean, they're still branding their tv coverage is real at war, which seems to be taken inside. very neutral to be a bbc. it headline about and is really tacked on the edge of valley mentioned the massive crater, the strike left, but they ignore the more than 50 people that the gaza and help ministry says we're
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also killed. mainstream media makes all kinds of dubious decisions about how to frame accomplish and you know, very well as a filmmaker. but the way you frame a story is how people understand the story of how have people's perceptions been influenced by the way the media has framed this? well, i think very much so, but again, the majority of americans don't support the slaughter. yeah. and, and they want the humanitarian aid and now not wanting trucks a day or 50 trucks a day, 500 trucks a day is that is where the american people are at. and i want people around the world. what might be listed to this, understand that my trouble americans actually kind of do get this. and when the big graphics come on, the screen is real at wor, um, you know, you just have to stop and think for a 2nd. oh yeah. yeah. the trustees, they have all those fighter jets, they have all those bars. they all, you know, all the, you know, the big house to the navy with all those. right,
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right. when you say the one you're, you're, what did you define? we are, you know, it's, um, there was an attack on october 7 that was reprehensible and um, and, and so people have a right to defend themselves, but that's not what's going on. now. if you're chewing children in mine, a with my money that say a 1000000 people of color that are being pushed on as they say, into the sea or into the desert, or to get rid of them in some way. certainly is what it looks like. and you can't wake up every morning and see the bodies of these dead children being pulled from the rubble. yeah. and i think a lot of what, uh then yahoo is doing is,
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was very similar to what bush was doing. he messed up more straight. no attention. no, they knew an attack was going to happen. they didn't prepare for it. and, and now then bush tried to save themselves by, let's go to war let's you know, just defend america. and, and yet we're not any say for now as americans. and we were back then and yes, there hasn't been another quote, 911, here in the us, but none of us are safe. if our response is more showing more depth. well look at, you know, look, look, i'm looking at biden's requests from congress for more money. it seems like more killing in more depth as inevitable binds asked congress and $14000000000.00 for israel's defense. the us already provides israel more than $3000000000.00 a year, is also ask for more money for ukraine on top of the 10s of millions of dollars that's already being spent in the fight against russia. now,
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what's interesting to me is when by made the case for this spending even more than just make a moral argument even more than just make a political argument. you made an economic argument on october 19th, you talked about the number of us states that those weapons would be made it as if the say, this isn't just good for defense, this is a jobs program. what do you think of the argument that making more weapons is also good for the average working american that we don't fall for that anymore? the majority of the 12, and i'd say a bite. you know, the things that he said in the, in the sort of position these take it, i know i, i'm pretty sure what he's doing privately behind the scenes with that and, you know, and i, and i know they tried to slow things down a bit to try to get few military need in to try and get hostages released. and i would say, i just want to say to people in gaza, anybody who's holding hostages, release them release from now. it's it. not just in terms of the,
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the goodwill that will come from that, but do, because it's just right, it's the right thing to do. and know again as these really pressure has informed us . when they started to release the 1st 4 hostages a week or so ago, maybe i think were one spokesperson for the idea of say, this is all just p r. them releasing her as teachers? well, you know, what's the thing we learned when we were kids that with you and she was me something, it's quite a sign. it may be what you're doing to. uh and, and it's, it's, it's released for hostages. hold the rug out from underneath the netanyahu. a government that's trying to justify the massacre, trowbridge, i would, i would just just strongly encourage that. and, and to, and to say both sides have to have a ceasefire to join us to stop. there was
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a moment last week that i got to be honest with you, it still was sitting in my crawl. also, the last week the white house press secretary was asked if president biden things anti israel protesters are extremists, rather than answer the question she called the protesters, anti semitic. and compare and compare them to neo nazis who, marching to charlottesville. back in 2017, there's an obvious divide on the left between support of, of support of israel and supporters of palestinians. but this is a democratic white house calling critics of israeli policy. most of the issues are probably be allies. after some lights. what would, what do you say to the people that depressed secretary make those kinds of claims? my partner guest team, my producers went down to um, brand central station in new york city. on friday night, a rush hour because we, we'd gotten, we heard rumors that people was going to be like
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a flash drive or people were going to show up there during rush hour to kind of shut brand central down. and when we got there, what it was was, it was an organization called jewish voice for peace and pat inside of brain central. we're well over a 1000 mostly new york jews sitting down and expecting to be interested in the act of civil disobedience wearing t shirts saying a ceasefire now. not in my name. yeah. people i knew people had family members who had been sho, october 7th, and wanted to make it clear that that their deceased loved one would not want children being killed because they weren't kill. yeah. was it was um. and so the cool, i know i heard i saw that the, so i said, so basically you're calling these thousands of jews in new york city. if you so
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much. i mean really you're really working the p r machine hard. when you're, when you're calling a fellow jews, uh awful terms like there. um. so it's uh you know, it's just not, it's not gonna work. and i think this is very frustrating for israel is really government. um that, you know, we've had a couple of generations of young people, not just in the us, but in israel and palestine and around the world where they kind of get what's going on now. and, and so you're just not going to be able to make stuff up and, and i'm very disappointed in and present, advise me for using this language. and, but, you know, i gotta say in the back of my had nothing to back this up on. i just think the public way, by just taking this position that, you know, we're a 1000 percent behind israel and we're going to send as many weapons as possible and this and that whatever. but i think behind the scenes and his phone calls with
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that and yahoo and just reading some of the analysis of all this pro, you really have certainly been some links. there been some policy experts who are waiting on this and said, absolutely that it's not nearly as uniform a position in the united states and israel as it looks publicly. but there's something we know and publicly by who doesn't like that yahoo, he's made the right. or when i was in new york, just the what i don't know what 67 weeks or do you march or demonstration to support the union against the automakers. so i think that that there's will no more in the months or years to come. yeah, i mean if there's a need to speak to that because i, it makes me think about the future or the potential future of the left before you guys want to ask you this. you were in avatar progressive politics, long before people knew what bernie sanders was or who and alexandro castillo cortez was. now there are pod cast about the end of neo liberalism,
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and more people are joining dsa, democratic socialists of america, they never before. unions are experiencing the highest levels of public support in decades a, to your point, a bernie almost got the democratic nomination for president as a self identified socialist. i mean, there is a vocal contingent in congress right now that identifies as progressive. we're in a different moment. are you, are you satisfied with the gains made by the left in this country? yes or no. i mean, the gains are not far enough. i mean, we saw during the pandemic because of all of the federal support and health for people. poverty amongst children was caught in it. yeah. and i'm not the only one who thought at the time. well, why don't we just keep this, colleen? look what we've done just by providing help to those who need it. and you know, and then of course, you know, because he's a more of a, a mater advisors had this, you know, he, the doesn't kept a lot of that a going,
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but i think i think that young people get it. they are the ones behind the new union movement in this country. you know, you've got what, over 30400 starbucks had been organized the body in the union. and of course they're fighting that and as they always do. but this is all young people doing this and, and it is young people who are standing up uh for that. how sitting people you stand up for it. you know, they're, they're focusing a lot on the few. the few kind of crazy people that are bigots, you know, a thing like this is real, you know what they've been doing, playing into the hands of bigots. and that's kind of white supremacist support. but that is not this country now. and, and the right wing will not run the show here. again, i really believe in that. i don't believe trucks can they get elected back into the white house?
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there are so many millions of americans who have not liked the way that we've gone . and in closing, i just want to say thank you for all the people who stand for peace is real, especially. thank you and, and to all here in this country and i, i'm weirdly optimistic. maybe i shouldn't be, but i, i just don't think netanyahu and his gang are going to get away with this. and i think that the slaughter will end and maybe not soon enough, michael. thank you so much for joining us. personally. thank you for letting me speak. and um, uh it's uh, i think this is the 1st television interview i've been asked to do since the started on october 7th. so my, my sincere agrees and condolences to everyone who's died 1st on october 7th, a just nobody who is jewish should have to spend another day on this or
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worried about their survival. and then immediately we need to stop the slaughter in gaza. um the re, the house you just have to be returned insensible people who care about peace care about each other. have to sit down at a table and, and work this out. and you know, we say a prayer for all, oh, absolutely, but not, no, not another person has to die. indeed. everybody, michael moore, thanks again for joining us. everybody. that's our show upfront. we'll be back next week, the as a, as well as video on guys a continues we bring you believe we are on the rounding dollars
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a covering the ongoing is raising apartments and the suffering of people's tones that we lost displacements and block of resources. and from occupied is to refund the data rate and restrictions prevent freedom replacements of rights to worship from tennessee will continue our coverage of israel will cabinet decision the campuses and all the political development supplies westbank. we continue reporting on the line and does really raise with feelings of loss, dissension, and destruction. stay with us for the updates and the detail coverage of the war on garza. the the president biden says once a 2 state solution for palestinians and israelis. what does anybody believe it's
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