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e. okay. how's pockets done for pass for general elections? there being overshadowed by concerns about spanish and political on rest from the prime minister and wrong con is currently in jail. off to being convicted on corruption charges his bond from the voters. his policy, it uses the government of your own senior crackdown on its members, cons, rival and other former prime minister. now, history has reconciled with the army generals and the pay is set to win back. power con, blame some of that tree for forcing him from office with help from the united states . and that's also raising questions about its role and focused on politics. but whatever the outcome of this, suppose the economy is in trouble with high use on employment storing inflation as an external that of more than a $120000000000.00. so how might this selection effect pakistan's feature? well, we'll discuss all this and more in a few moments without guests, but fast this report. and in 5th, but also a glimpse,
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a with parliamentary election or 2 in less than a week's pockets. don is experiencing turbulent times. the government is accused of carrying out a crackdown, especially on the form of government policy. paul costanza, hurry and stuff like that. and but the pocket started never in the history of book . he's done the entire leadership of political parties currently either in deals or hiding the way they're trying to get out of the election. all is in the front of the public. we will appeal, but we still hope that they will get justice. the p t. i's leader and full. the prime minister in raw com is in jail on more than a 100 charges that his support to say all politically motivated. his policy now faces the center, right pockets on muslim leak. that party took power off to call and was forced out in 2022 after falling out with pockets tom's military and losing a no confidence vote. it's lead to the valid shareef is a 3 time full,
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the prime minister who's been it's also with the military for most of his career, but is now seen as having its support. $18000.00 candidates a competing for seats in parliament in the polls in less than a week. more than a 120000000 people are eligible to cost the pallets, making the country's democracy, one of the largest in the world. that had been the speculations in the past about the possibility of elections at times about the severity of the weather. sometimes about security. uh sometimes about even um it on the box on the skirmish that we experienced last month. but we have been consistent at the heart of the elections, tackling installation, generating jobs for young people, and putting an end to growing political polarization. whoever wins space has a rough, the challenges i has thrown the cut, the droves us out, a 0,
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the inside story. well that's not bring in august is all about we haven't read about toronto, she's the general secretary of the human rights spring of the pockets on people's potty and seeing a sense of left. it's one of the 3 largest parties, unpack of stone and the whole we have finished aside ali is off on these a set us up and run cons, peachy i potty. he's also a barrister and a former cache, a federal minister for law and justice. and also in his, i'm about is debate rahman and he's a journalist, the problem and treat correspondence for the nation newspaper and website. welcome to you all. thanks for joining us on inside story. this very busy time. i've been wondering about the, the atmosphere leading up to the elections and, and just how campaigning has been going to have a let me ask you that to begin with by some accounts campaigning this time around has been telling uses. thank you very much. just a,
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actually this evictions. we have not seen any direction press the would be as yet for the remaining and about the controversial election. these, this is to lead uh to put another election in buck is done and every election, after every election we are but that these are going to wish as an action in 1977 focused on people, spotty there, uh, allegations of readings, but there in 1998, there was a is it acquisition of old reading in 1990? it's, it wasn't making sure nobody begins again and put it on the screen after that in 2013 dec plus very famous elections. what maneuvering in some of the net quasi john see that to you to sit in on a long list sitting in the pockets starting at 2013. there was a also uh, there's a uh uh, audio system of the transmission system. well, for
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a pond in that system, so these, what are the technical glitches in data elections that lead to oh, i see the whole i'll position by the the, these are under wish, of eviction, but we have seen that so many things about the election. the selection will be different from the, from the rest of the election. actually 2 factors. the 1st one is independent of by solution of or into independent candidates. second is a, you can say no will be different. and 3rd, one is you can say that the female participation this in this election, so many of humans a female is going to do 2100. if i want to get into some of that in, in just a minute. but you mention how controversial these elections are being regarded. obviously of the elections of, of have been controversial, but particularly this time around. we've been hearing particulars from the pci
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potty, there's been a broad crack down on your candidates. so let me address this question then to, to only have your candidates and supports has been targeted as i understand campaign materials, but also disappearing. there has been reports of that your logo has been banned. how has campaign been going for you? okay, thank you very much. v as b t i a we were, i was determined governments in uh, april 2022 and suspended in being dry. at least, i mean in at least 4 cases in disagreement. would that be the presenting beach? yeah, it would be very mean trying to get to these elections finally, if they hadn't been given on the february, but for the full months. and even before that, the d. i had been talking to the business name that i need to ship. it should not be able to do campaign. our workers should not be able to beat the crowds and the
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people who are like, shoot for the purpose of election. and finally, simply because of the do any political parties investing in linkedin away? so if you look at the boss, get started off with that, i saw the main leadership in the theater. this begins associates then many of them is actually not even appear in person in the body volcano, but it's uh, the all know that the, the founding chairman of the body around so there are cases, again, simon convictions of one convictions. i mean a given against him in many cases, in the matter of 15 days, the convictions had been given against him and it's been sentenced to almost 30 is
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in been uh then the on the vanity's that even bang waterfront opposed to the election to disrupt it. the, the, the, the, the lead listed. eventually the election commission off by the time it was due for free and fair elections. they took our symbols away also. now without a symbol, that means the department cannot feed its candidates. so in the selection be directly of the election lease, because we don't have a lot of symbols and we don't have any candidates on our symbols. although we have no many get it age website, they want to different symbols. and eventually that is going back into the form of the political 5 d, b i have to succeed. but right now there's confusion amongst the people who are there's so many, but then they don't know where to, but let me ask you a little more about that. out there because i think a lot of people might think, oh, it's just the logo as long as people can understand that you all from the same policy
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. people could vote that way. but you mentioned the confusion there and i understand that electricity rates in parts of the country are only forcing a 40 percent actually. so obviously the image actually has it has a huge, a huge power. can you tell us a little bit about how to parties been trying to deal with that and how they replaced the logo? how are you trying to bring people together? you see what uh, in the country like boxes. uh, we have a constitution be said that the political party is a fundamental that i know people do fall over to the body as a friend of mine who is a of the pretty good by the new conductor lives. and they do have a similar to the same, but it was taken over a few years ago and all was the part he cannot contest without a symbol of the man who this would be more. and this will be more said that it is, you know, in a see rarely because he's not that high. it is the symbol with which people i
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didn't if i were to the body. so if you did go and particularly barking, you are. busy similar to the body, then you x the distance. i think a lot of people in the parking lot know what was that. let me bring in maureen here because i want to ask her about her experience and the apologies experience of campaigning. so far. we've been hearing about a crackdown on p t. i support is. has your experience of companion been and friends then so fond the selection? i thank you very much for inviting me to your show. well, i won't take 3 with one of the finest when he calls these selections controversial . i think it's very interesting elections because we are just ignoring the fact that we have the population of 250000000 and out of 250000120 voters are being reduced. so more than a half of the population is going to work. and this year in 2024, and out of 12428000000. there's 14000000 new or so i've been registered
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since 2018. so it's going to be very interesting elections because half of more than half of the population is a young people. we must not forget also that the winters impact his son at this time. and we have just received 1st snow for in northern areas of focus on in cupboard book to cool and also put the flow to sun. so we phone, we are being concerned about a turn out at this point. and as a political worker, if you ask me, chairman of my boxes on people's body, he stopped his skin been in november. so you know, since then we are being involved and being engaged in this process of running a campaign. and we start to do it from cover book to file. we went to brewer just on one of the cities in inseparable to inquire below,
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just on fun job. and now in saying we have received a huge amount of appreciation because i think politics is all about the energy experience on the time i'm to be one of the young people of pakistan at this time. and they, i've been a bit of the social media media media and they are more valued about the vision politics, international politics. because these are not the dark ages when we are being living now. so we can not figure out how is going to be and to respond to the tools, how the contestants are going to be present, focused on. because i think at this point of the young people as they and the young people factors are very much excited because they understand democracy is very important for the uh, boxes on until. and unless we are being uh, ignoring the fact that um you know, ignoring that the electronics process must not take the place. i think it,
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we need to give a new to the people who are going to take fox uh for the 1st time. and they are not met then the data, fucked. the 1000000. and there's a lot of issues that are very close to their hearts, which we'll discuss. but just to be clear, have you faced any kind of restrictions settle on said when it comes to a campaigning and go potty? no, not at all. it's all right, because i think everybody has been given this chance of a to run to convince smoothly. i'm sure rest of the bodies. they have been also running. they've come been smoothly. one thing i would see here, but that was the decision of the election commission that um uh they didn't a lot of that. um the symbol of to be a. so i think good, that was the thing as a political work, and i must say it's very important because it has happened to us in the past as
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well because of boxes and people's bodies. the only party, i think, in this region, which has the legacy of a 6057 years, so in 50 and 70 is dying. we have gone through this like 12 foot per process many times. so i do not forget because we have faced a huge restrictions and it's 70 since 1977 to eighty's and ninety's in my set of time. so, you know, but that was, i think of part of the rule of the political system of design as well. so now we have come to this conclusion, actually this hope of taking a part in a process is very important. democracy is very important and a new hope is very important. and we have video. ok that focused on people focused on very choose the candidates. uh, i once legacy, i want to give it a moment the to respond to because i saw you, you smile at, at one of the things that maria said around how little parties have been fairly
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allowed to participate in the selection. i suspect you're going to agree with that . yes, it's just a fact that the people's fuck the and be a 1000000 and all the other to the bottom use it'd be given a fee. but the main c is not available to be d. i b, not the single that a since the boss for months, not a single really. not even a small gathering of people i, a few days ago. we had it as an idea. and if you have a conference within our head office in the dns, it only to stop by and been viewed about the meeting that people see. uh, so they wouldn't even more the meeting is saying, our head office, how much, how have you been attacking that? because obviously i'm wrong, con is in prison and, and we just had that from ray about about the huge,
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huge use folks that you were saying in the selection. i understand that the apologies been been trying new methods to to reach vertices using things like a guy and took talk. yes, we have a very good social media team. and so we are using technology to reach the people. we are using technology to ensure that they know the waterfall and with the about hundreds of symbols of or boxed on that to be locked into a candidate. so the bought an application where people can go and find out which particular candidate belongs to die. and what does this symbol indicates? so we drained of all the possible things that are there available on the social media to trying to educate people in store that they get more. but in spite of all of these problems, what i'd like to say is that we are in a position right now the to actually can dispute the election to our nominee
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candidate. even though we don't have a simple do you believe in the concept that and i the time is gone for the night? yeah, no one can stop it. well, let me um, today is how popular that idea is at the moment, because i was looking at some of the opinion polling places, gallup poll has him on cons, approval, raising remarkably consistent, despite all of the court cases and the convictions, as you say, he's just been handed down another 3 sentences just in the last week. do you think of a to that, that the court cases which the party is saying opposite the cambridge the base. it has that actually been feeling most support for him before going to him out to con, i would like to mention some comment about the debate. also my colleagues, actually i don't think so. our irrigation reloading the lessons i have it was actually, uh, uh by, by the, uh, uh,
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system port lost over the key decades. they kept leaving each other about the control was see, they kept believing each other about the unknown hands, the supposed to. yeah. any other part of the losing party? obviously the party now the uh, another phenomenon involved in the elections. uh, in. uh, political uh you can see that steve bet plus b d i, b d. i has come up with the different uh, dimensions in the you know, in the industry. we have seen that uh in uh, nowadays, uh uh you can see mountain hundreds of fixing so many cases. basically he wasn't guns to a 14 year uh, imprisonment pin. but because i sold my charge on the one thing is there that the contents being each other against each other in some of the constructive this thing really badly damaged them in the different constituencies. and i'll put in for
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these, but the benefit of it, i have already mentioned that to 3 factors are very interesting and the are differentiating the selection from all the previous selection. first one is uh about uh now, yeah, manuals these young people built on best in the cost here. boards beauman barge spends us. i even mention some of the features that a slot simply good. a sports guy. he has the one, all the 58. i wanted the 5010 tickets uh to the payment goes to uh, candidates, 28 and national assembly assigned people, spotty as the 135. i left one in the nation to some people sign was gonna be the new one as the 128 and 13 in national assembly and human a legal political party has to be one, but the 9. uh uh,
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i did the tickets to the 29th. uh can you do people, can you do and pull it into the national assembly. so this thing been may change about the i want to just sorry to interrupt you that i want to focus a little bit on, on the leadership of, of the parties. because there's obviously been a lot of tools as well, despite the changes that we're seeing and in terms of use and in the electorate and, and the women that might see more representation. there's obviously a huge contest going on between or not was to refund and everyone cons potties. and my understanding from that the life is polling is that the p p. u will pausing. maria may end up as, as king mega and, and political pundits a search suggesting that. now, histories policy is the one who is going to win out your lead to the political leader of your policy, who's just that the 5 oversee has, has a lot to say to the youth. he's also said that he would find himself caught between
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and i'm cruising it, the devil, and the deep blue sea, if he was forced to choose between the p t i and a no history of coffee. do you have a sense of which way that's going to go? yes. um chapman beloved with those and that he actually, um he, i think the soon after the southern to myself has been up to my the maintenance import to his political studies started because um he was, he was a cool um temp person for the party since 2008 and in 2000 and exactly that he is back 2014. he started the inc. i'm interested in a body. but when he finishes studies, and he started competing for buckets on people's bought by the across buckets on in 2016, we started, we saw a witness starting his guardian from destiny's um, by combining and going every um, uh on the corner from crush me to get to get rid of the sound compact. hassan and,
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you know, he became a member of national assembly in 2018. and in 2022, we witnessed him by serving as a, a foreign minister of focused on and he visited and he did present dated focused on in the different countries. um, so uh, you know, uh we can not see, doesn't have an experience or anything. when people said, i think it's not fed because he's young and he's a hope for um as well. yeah, i was about soon, about his experience that i've been talking about, which way you think his political leanings might lie if he was forced to choose of course he comes from a very, a connect democratic family. his ideas, as visions are very much split more than anybody else because he has seen this politics invested in his jeans and he has written as he has the eas being said to me because he had no choice did he is that to complete the vision of his beloved mother, who was a visionary leader, so i think he may even to choose
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a right spot. the good good box for the but prosperous buck is done. progressive practice done. this is our agenda and he loved his budget for the last few weeks. he's been talking about the main it agenda points which he has meant mentioned in the manifesto of luck to some people party, which serves actually from the noise. sorry, i don't, i don't want you to get into into the campaigning aspect care. i do want to take a bit of a step back and look at the border political landscape. so it's just taking a minute had this has an election in a state when no prime minnesota, by my, by my recollection was actually ever finished that time. so, back in 2018, it was now history who is being convicted and being barred from running. now it's iran, con, they've essentially in lots we've been pointing this out. they've essentially swap positions this time around. this is obviously a country with the military wells,
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a huge amount of influence. so let, let me ask you right now, who do you think gets to decide who runs the leaves? uh i thought i was good to finish my boss, but i was talking to just do this v i one. what i wanted to say was, and blasio question really does have a lot for me as an audit for lessons and elections belonging to people. when you are working, there is no question that you ever like to watch and no, i'm going to stop you. you're getting more people who we want the. so the issue is after the pony, why does the bowling takes place? the question that i is that a bill there be a domain which shouldn't be allowed to be phones according to the people are when we see another interface, john a, as you see in the box history sometimes. so we are expecting this then something
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different. and the reason why is expecting something different and they should not be able to know what can control that. is that more than 50 percent of the population is uh you. the under 24 been the 60 is where i the listing, who bought a very clear picture of who they want to hold for. and this time they want to die. there is no question in their mind. is that it would they need, it needs to be and because we see that somebody is being victimize, the sympathy, what is also increasing the so what we expect them to be d as diploma and we are not going to have a compromise or pollution been able to bother you asked the question of other people's party wants to join the team and or any of the parking. let me say that we have decided that we will not be joining any. what should we expect people to do is
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what for us as a competing majority biking so that we can get a 4th, an agenda of it. but studies we believe that to get a that agenda because it has to be some subject to, it's not going to you that need to be mean really the very bottom, the leader. and we need to on this, this is the stand behind it. on the screen of the box, i need to stand behind the need to only then the can. we can move forward and therefore we want, and we believe that this thing people have a b, i, n bauer as a majority body. and must be with the really strong opposition from the body within the next step. but well, why suddenly, with the institutional standing behind us, we don't have any institution. we don't have any boxes with any political funding said on the concept that it was clearly
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a huge amount. it's taking the selection and we'll certainly be watching divert here at all. just very, very, very closely indeed. but for now we'll leave it there. thank you to all of our guests marie, it's about to run it, finished aside olives, alpha and evade roman and thank you to for watching. remember, you can see this program again any time by visiting our website that's out or is there a dot com for further discussion? do you guys are on facebook page? that's facebook dot com, forward slash a inside story. remember, you can also join the conversation on x handle is out agent and side story for mean associates, hey, and the whole team here in the, the as a, as well as video on gaza continues. we bring you the late we are on the rounding dollars a covering the ongoing is raising arguments and the suffering to people's tools that we lost displacement and lack of resources as well as district conditions here
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