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or so no one protects her. so how do you get a young person to have faith in anything? when the courts and the church are climbing the fact that her abuse is all over the world on the internet? that's not a secret, but whatever the church says about it is a secret, and what they did about it is a secret violence and synagogue also, the president postponed this month, collection lucky sol cited controlled us to use over the disqualification of some presidential candidate position. there says it's a constitutional could says could kind of go the headings even more as far as inside the hello and welcome to the program. i'm just going to be a pain. set a goal as president mackie sound made a surprise announcement on saturday, indefinitely. postponing elections showed you with felicia this month. he cited
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control the seat surrounding the disqualification of some presidential candidates and of your position has accused solid trying to cling on to power and protests of taking place in the capital of deka. set a goal is often viewed as the confidence more stable democracy, a red pillar of stability in west africa, where it's neighbors. it faced crews and civil was sa says he's not going to run for that time, but with no new dates for the presidential election. and prominent candidates still bod from contesting, is the country's thinking deeper into political time. well, it was hot cost that is just for us from the senegalese capital to. so we've been trying to fill outside the parliament, but we've been pushed around by police who have not allowed us to fill in either location. this is a very tense moment for a set of goals inside the parliament is a r m p is gathering to make this historic votes to give it the dates of when the presidential elections are going to take place. a key factor here to is whether or
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not present lucky solves mandates will end. it's supposed to end in april. now that has not been mentioned in the bill that's going to be voted inside the house of parliament. and that's an issue of contention. but you can see out here, police are out in full force. there's right. sporadic fighting between opposition, supporters and security forces, not just here around the parliament, but throughout the country. never has there been an election canceled or delayed in this country. there's always been a peaceful handover of power from one president to another, and the goal is entering unchartered waters. and this is making the situation so tense. all eyes are on what's going to happen inside the national assembly. nicholas hawk out 0 for inside story. it has plenty more to discuss with our guests in just a moment. but 1st this report which takes
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a look at the state of democracy right now and set a goal set. the goal is in crisis. protests broke out of the president mackey. sol announced he would be delaying the election scheduled for later this month. pretty soon. and like i said, i still i. he has betrayed the spirit of dialogue about he has betrayed the senegalese people. the base of the social contract is our country's constitutions, and they got, yeah, about the phrase, a price of $40.00 to the prices. and who knows? maybe um, if there be a position, a decided during the approvals, maybe we're going to face via and so says the postponement is due to the control the c surrounding the rejection of some presidential candidates. either junk resident jello. not sure or not. ok, i will initiate an open national dialogue to bring together the conditions for a free, transparent, and inclusive election in a peaceful and reconciled sending. got it. but he hasn't set a new date,
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prompting criticism that the move is a bit to stay impala set. a goal gained independence in 1960, and leopold said that a single was its 1st democratically elected leader. the country has seen peaceful transitions of power since, and is widely considered a pillar of stability in west africa. unlike its neighbors set, a goal has never faced the crew or civil war. but now this growing uncertainty about when people will get the chance to cost that balance and fears that winter foot does happen, it may not be for you, but we are in a country where people are mistreated. it's really tough for us. the world needs on desantis. this is a cry from the hops. in june demonstrations took place of the speculation that saw was all young as the top. it was only in july that the president announced he would
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not be running. but since then several lead single position candidates have been disqualified. the and entrepreneur and presidential hopeful. on top of a. com. com was arrested on sunday. south says he's trying to safeco democracy. but his action seemed to be putting the most stable democracy in west africa at risk for all the competitor rosa out to 0, the inside story. the oh that's not bring in august and doc, how we haven't done go some of the sheila, he's a development economist and had a reception policy at international development economics associates from the town of caffeine. we're joined by all use, so synagogues, minnesota of culture and historical heritage. and in london, we have alexis backwards here and he's managing editor of the news website center for he is also a specialist and ask in current affairs. thank you for joining the gentleman. i
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won't welcome to all of you here on inside story. now, as we've been reporting sign, a goal is obviously been regarded for some time as a stable democracy. but we're now hearing accusations of a constitutional crew haven't been carried out. and on the you've described to president solve decisions and delayed the election as a napoleon style crew. can you explain that for one of the inspector? good. is this the actual, any of these people? because most of us here expected to have the election house as initially planned. that means on february 25th. uh most of the saint paddy's he once they before that decision got to be no longer going to the most space, even if we have grievances against the government. we are no longer waiting for people straight because we want to provide no great tax afford to postpone one above the exxon's. that's the civic, you know, uh,
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behavior of synagogues. they attach a high value to elections to because they seemed up. they think that they have the right to choose their own leaders and the expect it to harvey. so decision shop many people and it was a piece of what the advance by the president is to say that why do we want to have free and fair elections that 10 groups everyone and to uh, i bought uh, an ongoing uh, concern prices in the sense that there would be a crisis between the judicial and up volume and 3. but the thing is most of the same guys, people think that this is an internet across is quite significant. another look around the region and know that people have the post stage best of feeling. and most of the people about talking about go see being cool. because because i look only been for trade by people in uniform, but also by people supplying power. well,
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as we were hearing that from and don't go, presidents all are saying that he's defending democracy, but he was essentially doing that by delaying the democratic process minutes. so thank you for joining us. can you explain that from view? is that the thinking behind thank you necessary or let me express my products to a mr. see that and i'll record a bit of but let me tell the one thing there is not into no serious prizes or decide on originally. if so, can you describe it or do you given the given name to the cries of content on the price? is that the case before lynn has many reasons that would describe by the present himself and people are witnessing here in discomfort. instead of going for the bar, we have the credit is between the national assembly and the constitutional council over alleged the corruption of custody. show the deputies, it does not from the region. what position,
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fundamentally to group that by defeat is formally by t, which i me is to us issues of corruption. and then they went to the following to integrate and we have the creation of the problem and for the commission of the coverage to shouldn't light overs overdues of august for you. and beyond that, all the procedures for verifying under this is of by the costs are so it comes to the doors, does the producer of the actors. it shows also by the member of the customer show council or a fetus for light to be shipped on this case. on both sides, we have the, this precedent of the necessity of clarify the issue. they say they are accused of being corrupted. rejected all have to be done on both sides. the one thing to get to 3 are the discovery of fraud prevention by kind of this you'll get the candidacy . so you so and then the use it where do i mean measures?
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and to is it to be paid to get to click on this. ok, there's no incentive. oh, you have to be exclusively, you have to have the side of this incentive edition. you come to have no one, no other one, and one of them and it, and there's also a link to here many the order citizens just in how did they proceed to get. they can just assume there's another be, make it, you know, race and they're just going to the cultural, comfortable. and then sort of just the, just sort of the rejection of the verdict of the buses. this kind of need to but i'm sure i'd have to disperse and, and the popular classes. and then finally were still of course, just as a result of eric some and know super to the 2 men to, to put because somebody to of the concrete, this is what it is. now here we have separation of powers, digital showing easy enough to flip the we do the thing one and the exit could do
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a little bit take on the decision. a hospitalization is good because it is and question a position. i probably went to a fee this freedom and then you press any changes and then do i like to some of the things support in the last or to minutes. so i want to pick up on something in the really back to the back to by the 20 minutes. so, so i, i want to ask you about something you just said that you spoke about separation of powers. and i know that something that you said in the past are very proud of incent ago. now, just political, the political movements and, and politicians appeared to be questioning that process, including the president. i know, sorry what happened is of your risk of the separation of powers when middle column is decided to pass along related to the postponement, which is the 1st time instead of the let me remind you that because you got a 1967,
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the 2nd alex by the election, what possible to 9 to 6 feet age by pretty little single sort of fall limit. we should revise. i mean the constitution is just empty. the member of the following members, when they dropped on the table or the speaker of the house, the decision to move forward without getting the opinion of the appraisal. so because it has 3 choices, give them a little hope you're doing up and know what to look for this time prison. microsoft look for the filter possibility to just have to look okay. and why are you taking the, what are they can come to know the procedure then? it could when we've had a view of the president, let's see. do i want to bring? i want to bring alexis into the discussion hand because i'm curious about how united to the opposition is on this. as we've just had some of the vision parties,
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it well one in particular car and one day he was bought from running his party, requested the delay, but others have completely rejected the delay. they've said that they're going to come pay in any way, alexis, what should we make of this? is that difference of opinion and your position? i'm using that power. i said yes, the, those splinter your position is not a united funds that don't study their power because covering was, has a very specific issue that, you know, he has this jewel citizenship fisher. and his 2nd, i'm funny senegalese. so that does undermine the power because ultimately you have the lucky cell and then you have a number of different groups. you have a different position because kind what, for example, does one to the life and doesn't want us to be sort of the others want to keep coming? i think ultimately the specified. the point is there is a constitutional crisis at the moment unfolding. it has hit a tape and if i very stable democracy,
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that's the biggest take away. i think the defense of crisis is on sites and 2 people don't like consent to take on that they, the system was within your position will add to that uncertainty because the result to united voice you have a number of different contesting voices who have different agendas. and then as one does that you have protest as fulfilled that they've been disenfranchised. they feel that this was, i will put unity to speak and to choose who they were going to have in control through the french as a government. and they feel it that's been taken away from they've had agency withdrawal informed them. so this is a real issue for, for some of golden temple. i saw some of these guys in some way if i refer to with a lot of this seems to come down to intentionality, right. and many people. and so we've been hearing believe that this is present mackey solid trying to, to hold onto power in some way. we saw the unrest that took place when it was possible that he might then be running for that time. he says that he wouldn't
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don't do it. how much trust is that? in this sense that he will relinquish power? when it comes time we have just up so that if you want peace, you have to be such a base. you have to show guarantees. now i'm speaking from becca, about antenna is cut off. that last time it was cut off, it was doing demonstration into a bunch of bunch of sweet. that means that uh, some illegal moves i made. and afterwards measures i taken so that people are good not going best. if you look up here, internet got most of the people, the majority of the people they one piece and they say, we are against this month. we have 16 state months from religious groups, from trade unions pump sewage society organizations, ordinary people. everyone is shocked and no one could measure that if you out from abroad. this is not a gunshot of crisis at the beginning. it has to be boxed right to. and that's the
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reality here. and the thing is, i say the people is how the last page. uh, because uh, before the opposition political obligation, they ask several times to have a party, a month with committees on a number of topics. like, for example, the way the corporate 19 budget has been use or mismanage, there had been a demons to have probably a month or comedies on, for example, the people were killed during demonstrations, but no surprisingly in a matter of days, we have a fire montoya, committee investigated, alligator judges about the course of judges about, you know, uh, judges from a controlled car. and most of us have a clear reading of these because the ordinary people, they weren't going to be not citing. there's
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a set. what do you always be bought from the position, but they weren't f one deputy, and the current government knows that they, we lose bo us with no money addictions. they know that be a good candidate. good step. when the elections say they want to buy sometime. so that day we choose a good by stupid of your actions and also have the, you know, hope that a good using fix doing extra that's, that's the feeling of good may go to a follow up to us. that the stuff when you take on reading. so whatever it might be said for me, i got a perspective, you know, we could have this reading and the thing is, it's not only saying go all the neighboring countries from the fund copies, but yeah, using the same quick sense of 2020. so if it was sunny, got only we could say that there's something happening, but it's like general is generalized about them. so that's good. i love the school, i'm in place. they loved ones really felt alexis, i see, you know, doing that obviously that this is a regional issue. we've had the regional book echo us come out there quoting,
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for elections to take place as soon as possible. the african union are doing the same just how much power do these regional groupings actually wield when it comes to implementing events. and i think the brutal truth is that they have very limited power in these situations. these are situations that have to be dealt with internally i'm, we are sitting them being expose, the lack of power has been exposed, particularly across, but also via your so i'm a to us, this has been a pleasant week for the worst task and block because we see the share molly between if i so saying that they're looking to leave and then just going back a few months, we saw how they were offensive pretty toothless and responding to the crew. and they said they tried to have a muscular response where they said that, you know, nothing was off the table including, i mean, the trained convention and they had to back down and nothing happened. and instead we've seen those 3 countries. the come in bolton as well as the near the end of
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last year, we saw an attempt to, to ensure everything that appears to have been an attempt to prove that any besides as well. so this is a real problem and each time a, a cost can say is the bell proof of dialogue. and then if there's a crudo code for speed to return to a democratic rule. now this is from i imagined as a hammer blow to them. and i couldn't, as i say, it just shows how ultimately tooth as they are, they can't really intervene. there's nothing that they can do the route and leave as they can pull to really be full, full, and faced situations. well, we know that have service have been observing democratic setbacks and set a goal for some time. now it's not just when it comes to to these elections, but they're of interest of critics on the defamation laws. i so freedom house also move to center, golf and being categorized as free to, to possibly free and under your in doc or how these being felt on the ground that particularly also by civil society. yesterday, people started to demonstrate. and as i said,
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this money by internet is cut off because my internet is what people use for their daily plates. but also if people want to demonstrate their, i'm the normally they coordinate using mindful small internet. so you could see that people are really sharp, but the thing is in fact, we have to go deep within the ground prices. we have talked to about the $9.00 to $63.00 crises to say that this was a sort of breast done. but what happened at that time, you know, in cycle for an africa would never have bought for independence. no. oh. and we could even say that whole countries to some extent have been hot was or be caustic show. this is a topic that we dealt the ways with my global funny people on how late this book, but to say that 9060 street was a way to get ripped off of the candidate tools. and that's what that is in the sense that you wanted to get rid of french. great. but they say it's impossible
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that you get rid of the transcript. so what did people say that's think about these a little bit more basic. well, this has to be taken with a grain of sort of why, because of people who sent it goes, people are automatic. people are asking me deeply about you, bailey, about you. and they have been fighting against the body to go to us. and despite the political gospel, have their own liberty. but the thing is set got us all the african countries from the front of one era. they have been never allowed to choose their own details to free and fair and inclusive elections. you will have no record of no political liter looks. he's country factories harnessed and the one for brick reach out to get rid of the you know, to fresh read on the francophone. i forgot that monday to read an election. you have no record about that. and in sunny go, that these, the, that goes out as big because for once you have young people whose seems to be
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harness, we'll see what the people are. and what about the body of people and who prints. so normal and predictions. but this has never been allowed in the history of fall before an effort that seems to be in dependencies. and we're seeing it in the style is somehow and it goes to the because our books like ali, the only way sometimes how nations have been able to get read for a number of friends for many to resolve all of the color odyssey we are using exeter had been short, many thank goes i'm not advocating when they go to us, but i also think that this has been the problem. so any time you have a leader that to try to dispatch the school, you have to ensure the policies in 96 city, we have that. and so they go, well, i want to bring the minister back in. now to explore that the route for right now in terms of, of what you were calling a crisis incentive. all there's a debate as we've been reporting on, if they'll be a vote on august 25th. we understand that the constitution requires elections to be
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held at least 30 days before the end of the president's time by my understanding. and i'm not supposed to be april 2nd. so minutes to how is that supposed to work inspected. there is no modification of the praises, but we have just a general vision of what we have in mind can be 6 if to 7 is wrong, then the decision taken by the name of the problem is. so we definitely that the election told the only persons for a time limit that will be precise in the new demolition. and the current of the coming to prison will be in office until the solution of this new succession. so let me tell you one thing. there is no list of drawers, statesboro that can be logistic. can you present mattress? i'll be able to be able to and they should still be recall. remind 2 over 2 ition
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to everyone to each of us. the run for another turn. yes, but a couple of minutes at the end. tumor is such a gun. this is such an conflict. don't situation. i have the minister the i'm sorry. so i do want to ask you about this because it appears that there is a proposed exemption to the constitution that's in the works for a 6 month delay. and people are obviously concerned that if, if that pos is that, that could then be repeated further delays. what would you say to that? no, because it depends on the problem in, on the executive power. only the fundamental can pass lower village. if you do have the strongest possible minute or any other major, but more be no, no below can be implemented. it's not, are not to probably do to by the present and let me try to present microsoft will never probably get something that easy enough ever before. so they go into the
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equation, social cohesion, necessarily unity based on the separately. so it is, i can show you this coming to me in our present like a solid. so to be one to what somebody said or somebody says he will ship and then we all this thing to the following. we are working on that. but let me, let me tell you something this morning that you just for towers. the really need to do new elections and send a go. what if it was you from here is how likely will, how soon are we like to to see elections incentive all a but it was built in, this is going to show the perfect, promotes it free for you and pretty much electronically includes the ones that are giving it shot, and we're still the glue that's through the criteria to compete with the quote terms. what would that well, that minnesota, where the fall money bar,
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it was on the phone to put an understanding of the game to have taken to the stream. it had been, it was months on guys support is a lot of people who have taken to the streets incentive all over the past year had been support as it was, the thing was most of the different given himself. and so part of it except that he hadn't looked around because he had the present problem, which was set to the by the judiciary and internal measures taken by the judge to put you put in that room. and then what about the body member form a, find a member as going to be able to accept the deputy of somebody if he was over here that i'm terms of legal basically all the wrong. but i the prison microsoft called before a national dialogue which oh, i mean talk to, oh, sealants is that the members are every 10 degrees was i mean for the, in the,
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these are the kind of go, can ask you to say and then come with opinions ideas and proposals that can improvements address on and lead us to try and fix it. includes instruction when people discuss when the back up in that isn't is possible. but in terms of risk of the overall instead of good is a country based on the overall. and let's see that what is this 3 student will then be multiplied by problem. and then by, by the parliament we have the new model. the, the site is the free and fair elections on the go, the level, and the reason that you called about prism to discuss on. so i'm afraid we're having to leave our discussion today that helps. but as you've all reiterates a, just how critical free and fair elections off of the country and, and we do certainly hope that they do take place in senegal, soon, and in a peaceful way. everyone feels that their voices have been had finale,
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