object to him, that response, also the prime minister shortly after you met with him made clear that is really troops will be moving deeper into rafa. will the united states simply stand by as action is pursued? um, even with 1000000 palestinians, more than a 1000000 palestinians being held are in rough. i've seemingly with nowhere to go in. if i may, congress is now moving ahead with a bill that would pair aid for you. green with aid for israel, with the ministration endorse any potential package that once again prohibits on rough funding. thank you. that's impressive. now i'm, i'm taking you that, that includes the questions of all of your colleagues as well. is that right? and i don't think so. can do that to this. all right, starting with the, with the 1st part, look, as i said, we've looked very carefully at what came back from us. and there are clearly non starters in, in what, uh,

what is put forward. but we also see space in what came back to pursue negotiations to see if we can get to, to an agreement. and that's what we intend to do. and i'm not going to speak for israel or anyone else involved. but again we, we, we believe the space is there and we believe that we should pursue it with regard to rasa. look, as i said before, israel has the responsibility, has the obligation to do everything possible to ensure that civilians are protected and that they get the assistance they need in the course of this conflict. so any a military campaign, military operation that israel undertakes, needs to put civilians 1st and foremost in mind. and i suggested again,

some ways to do that. and that's especially true in the case of raffle where there are somewhere between 1.2 and 1400000 people, many of them displaced from other parts of, of gaza. so we want to make sure again, that in anything that's, that's done in any military operations, the situation for civilians is 1st and foremost in mind. and that the necessary steps are taken to make sure that they're protected and they have the assistance they need me. you suggested some ways to do that. well, i just want to, i just went through a number of things that we are just real to do now on the building on what is already done in terms of both the amount of training assistance and civilian protection. and as i said, within the case of rough itself, that's an extremely important because it has such a dense population,

including many people have been displaced from other parts of a dozen. and on, on book the we were deeply concerned by the allegations that were made about the participation or involvement some of its employees in the, in october 7th. and it's imperative that as the one is that it's doing that there be a thorough investigation that the re clear account ability and that there be clear measures put in place to make sure that this can happen again this. so the personnel working for it, we're not in any way involved in terrorism or the events of october 7th. so we know that or the work that performs the functions that it performs have to be preserved because so many lives are depending on

and so going forward, we're going to look to the actions that are taken. and as i said, it's in imperative functions to be preserved and then would potentially support in a package that still prohibited funding for on. i'm not going to get ahead of our views on hypothetical pieces of legislation, although there was already in a package that the ministration endorsed our evidence. that funded i'll, i'll leave that to the next. thanks. thank you. a 2nd for the next question, gil temporary with the counselor team you specifically 3, thank you for the opportunity to give them a return of the team. it seems to be that the entire vide, induction, and visit the as well. the future posting and state and normalization with our, with your rep. yeah. is collapsing that the no says no, we'd copied and took any form of listing and state. so do a review says the normalization with these will only be considered after an independent palestinian state is founded in 1967 borders,

which it is. jerusalem is its capital. so how does the us intend to break this deadlock? and the secondly is regarding give at the hostage deal after we listen the tonight to pray minister nathan, you know, that says that the, how much does the demand. so the illusion of a how do you find this page? is you mention the for negotiation and that do you feel different than you always exhausting? every possible option to bring back these? well, the citizens kidnapped and helped us to buy a mouse or again as well. the politics is intervening. and lastly, why did you cancel the your visit tomorrow to kevin? kevin, shall. so this is good. we have a, i think we have a trend going of at least 3 questions. first impression uh the last question 1st uh, there was no plans as

a to crunch along. so there was nothing to uh to cancel. um, one of the things we wanna make sure, as well as i said, is that assistance be able to move smoothly and sustainably. but there is nothing to cancel. second, um, i guess i'll go in reverse order on the house, you give it again i'll, i can only repeat myself that clearly. clearly, there are things that how much send back that are absolutely non starters. and i assume that's what the prime minister was referring to, but i don't want to speak for him. but at the same time, we see in uh in what was sent back a space to continue to pursue an agreement. and these things are always negotiations. it's not, it's not flipping a light switch,

it's not yes or no, there's invariably back and forth. and as i said, we see that we see the space for that. and given the imperative, given the importance that we all attached to bringing the hostages home, were intent on pursuing. oh, finally. as i said before, you know, we were before october 7th, pursuing the possibility of normalization between israel and saudi arabia. and in fact, i was scheduled to come to israel and to saudi arabia, i believe, was on october 10th to to pursue that. and in particular, to focus on what we already knew, the fact that was unnecessary pulse then you component to any normalization

agreement. so when i saw the conference and saudi arabia just a couple of days ago, he repeated to me his desire and determination to pursue normalization. but he also repeated that in order to do that, 2 things need to happen. one that needs to become engaged to there needs to be a clear incredible pathway to a palestinian state. so as i said before, you can see the path forward for israel and for the entire region with integration with normalization, with security assurances with the pathway to a, a palestinian state that entirely changes the equation and the future for the better for his release, for hours for palestinians and in so doing isolates

groups like a mouse isolates, countries like iran that want a very different future. but as they also said, going down that path pursuing it requires hard decisions. none of this is easy. and so it will be up to us, or at least to decide what they want to do when they want to do it, how they want to do it. we'd no one's going to make those decisions for them. all that we can do is to show what the possibilities are, what the options are, what the future could be. and compared to the alternative. and the alternative right now looks like an endless cycle of violence and destruction and despair. so we know where the better path lies,

but i don't minimize it any way. the very difficult decisions that would need to be made by all concerned to travel down that path and on. laguardia, with the economist. thank you very much century um, can you uh give you some very specific words uh, own in describing this vision for about your past. what do you actually mean by clear, credible, irreversible time down past the policy, the state. i mean, the cuts are and again, today you spoke about security, digital receiving security guarantees and insurances, from its neighbors. what does that actually mean? what's on the table for israel if it goes down this path? and would that include additional us assurance as to israel on top of the arrangements, conduct this? thank you. look, i'm not going to get ahead of the get out of things or get into um specifics. i think those, those words speak for themselves how they're, how they're defined, how they're made real. that's the subject of diplomacy. it's very much the subject

to the conversations that i've been having in the region as well as here, as we flush that out and give real substitute. but i don't want to get ahead of it. what i can, what i can only add in, in response to the rest of your question is it's clear to me from talking to many of the countries and the reason that they're prepared to do things with and for israel that they were never prepared to do in the past, including the steps that would uh, further address any security concerns that might have. and similarly, the united states has prepared to that to but the, the details of that, the substance of that these are all things that we continue to talk about in, in these conversations in our diplomacy. and we'll bring it into ever sharper focus . because at some point, yes, it will be very important to perform exactly uh,

those details and see if for all parties concerned, there is a credible pathway to walk down. and again, i believe that there is, but there remains a lot of work to be done in the, the weeks and months ahead. the final question goes from a jim june with elders are english. the secretary, thank you. i have 2 issues. i want to ask you about the 1st is regarding the fact you've spoken about the ports of creating a pathway for a palestinian state. there been reports that you've asked the state department of view options on potentially recognizing about indian state. so i want to ask you if that's the case, and if so is that a type of pressure point that you feel is needed to get israel to agree to cease fire and one that could ultimately lead to a 2 state solution. that's the 1st issue. the 2nd issue i want to ask you about is the fact that israel has maintained that how much needs to be eliminated, that it cannot have any role in governing garza after the war has ended. weird is

the us currently stand on this? is it in any way acceptable to the us for how much to be playing a role in governing gaza in a day after scenario. and what would us policy be toward from us going for the short answer to the 2nd part of the question is no. so the 1st part of the question, look, as i just said, their number of, as we're, as we're defining the, the path forward, including the pathway to a policy and state. uh, there are a number of policy options that people may propose as part of that process. but our focus today is on all of the diplomacy needs to bring it about, including again, getting a ideas, getting proposals from, from all concerned and putting those together in a credible and clear plan. so that's, that's where we are. and as i said, we'll continue to have these conversations to engage in that diplomacy to really

sharp and focus on all of the different elements that would be necessary that would be involved and that each of the parties believes is, is important. thank you. i thank you. thanks everyone, and apologies for keeping folks late. hope you get a chance. have some dinner. thanks. hello, you've been listening that i do us secretary of state, i'm st, blinking addressing media and tell her views, often musing with as rarely and kind of stimulate as now as even reporting. he has been trying to secure an agreement with israel following a proposal by him off. he has just said that while there awesome can't non stop to is not business wide and i'm us proposal. he says that create space for an agreement to be reached at some point of view as well. what could that would? let's just wait until they get the link and says in his meetings, he pressed as well in concrete ways to strengthen strength and civilian protection . and get more aid and he said that her mouth didn't humanized is really is on

october the 7th, but said that that cannot be a license to humanize all those. i'm just hours after the u. s. claim to strike on the wrong link on the, the, in a rock which we've been reporting on thinking spoke of how to run. and its proxy is continuous cycle of violence and said that the us is trying to prevent escalation. well, i'm not joined by algebra senior political analyst, my one bossard here in the studio. and uh huh. when you and i spoke yesterday, you said going into this meeting with nothing. you all can. lincoln's turn didn't sound very promising, having heard from him today, what do you make of his turn now? even less promising. this was probably, i mean, every time you think that there blinker with head new bottom, he finds yet another bottom to it. it's uh, it's quite inquiring about actually because if you would imagine 4 months late that he wouldn't be repeating the same. is there any lies on lines and sound bites but to succeed in doing that?

even when issues that had been debunked already during the war, like you know, how much jesus hospitality has caused for command centers and sure thing rockets and all kinds of stuff anyway. but i think that there's couple of points that really highlighted this. i'm not sure what it is. it's fig claims or, or sound bites or propaganda that he continues to, to sell us and to buy sign photos, right. your point that we mentioned and we, we also by the way, mentioned yesterday, he said that that he agreed with is read or, or got the commitments from is read about for us to be protecting civilians moving forward. yeah. he said that they were concrete steps that he put on the table that i didn't hear and specify what those. why. so the washington post on november 31st headlined,

blinking secures commitment from is read to protect civilian lives and cause since then 6000 additional children were killed by is right, the number i wanted, the civilians in gaza. so he presumably either i mean either cynically or i'm not sure what kind would would be. he presumably secures commitments, but those commitments are actively falls. and then here the peach of again, today know and alter was that the commitment the secure, the november 31st for is the be protecting stuff. it is exactly the opposite of that leading to the death of more than $10000.00 people. i know it'd be that as it may then there is this uh, this other point that highlights this, this paradox or this contradiction in his, in his approach. so. so the united states is, is

a part to that general side and cause it's a part to, to, to the war crimes. and guys are spotted to recollect the punishments in gods, but it provides arms, finance, and protection, and, and diplomatic protection for you, sir. but the secretary of state is trying to be here, i don't doubt telling us how the united states and this was by the way, the murray on point at the moment. you know, people are dying and guys out. that's good. that's give them some flour to eat. right. people are getting killed every day and guys, they are the space and guys are they have no home. and guys, let's give them words. let's give them more of the same hot air that we've been giving them now for 4 months. so it's a, it's a real sad situation whereby he, again and again, the defense is right. again and again, please advise as far as advocates says that how much is proposals are non stock? there's what doesn't say that's nothing. the host points are non starters,

because nathaniel has point days we're going to continue the war until the very, very end. and we're going to continue to offer you bye guys for the foreseeable future. how is that the spotter? well he's, he's also sad to that, as well as completely unjustified. and it's war against to last. he was clear, he said there's no space for a mouse. and a day off the scenario, all we any way closer to is he's fine. he keeps using this phrase, extended pause. and now that he's saying that there are parts of the proposal that and started with this space to move forward. where is the space? what is the next step now? so this is the thing, right? that apartment is something you know, basically said everything good could be said to, to check the status, just our agreement. but he didn't actually go to jackson. he said everything possible against every thing possible. i guess the united states effect this is again one of those, but a duck says right. this war, the past 4 months have prove demonstrated,

right beyond doubt that is red is totally dependent on the united states. does that dependency relationship between is what in the united states and yes, the spike is dependence on the united states. the united states is subservient. how does the government, how is that possible that the superpower continues to peddle, to advocate for the small little criminal government? that is, that's cutting out genocide and god. so it's quite a bright mind boggling. actually, i'll have to say where this goes from here saying as he says that there is space for, for conversations to continue will even that for now, they're all in the shower on today. we're seeing if, unless things get your thoughts as a way well, let's move on to some of the news now and in democratic republic of congo. thousands of leading to guidelines as violence continues to intensify between the only and the m. 23 onto group phases of now reporting this around of the town of

stuck in the east. a critical step before reaching going by the capital of north keeping the companies army and un peacekeepers have been struggling to contain the on the scripts advance on the city. the situation in socket is very bad. heavy fighting between the soldiers and 23 levels. they have attacked was heavy guns and bones fell on the 16th the supply. when leaving for going up we saw soldiers running away from the positions as find interrupted between deem and the rebels. that's why we left the find him was too intense and the settings were running from the fighting between rebels and soldiers. we don't know where we can go, but we can't survive. and the situation is too much for us. but allow, we, connie has worn out from blanco or yeah, yeah, it will notify from the if you said, well, 100000 of people are running from such as, which is just because there is

a fight in between the, between the 2 levels and also the d i c, i mean, they've been fighting for a week twice now, but this one and you're getting ripples. i will try to take over the ministry thing, which is the last one before the toner, from wilma. this is why you have seen all these people and they've been in this socket for more than one muscle. right now we're running from different areas on the 4th or off labels this morning. we still don't know what to do there, but was all within the press. it goes up to now we can see the bottom from the place where we go. and i was on hundreds of people on the right now trying to go in the city of wilma, they've been already in this area and the right to know they're going to see another i the prisoners because they've been around here. there is this, it is, how does i go inside and are those i say they need to go 1st thing to secure it because they don't trust where the invitation disclosure showed. those are both on

the bus and co otherwise, you know, like on it will go on the democratic republic, of course, at least 27 people have been killed and more than 50 injured. and if i'm lost and focused on southwestern province, a bunch of stones, it comes just a day of general elections that also bank reports now from the whole of death and destruction after a bump. the last of the candidates office introduced on province. these are the conditions focused on selections that being held into. no one has yet to change responsibility in the past, but they've just done has seen a tax card that by separate just the human commission of human rights. it's expressed consent of, of one to incidents ahead of this vote. they have been attacked some political parties and candidates during commission. it has cold and authorities to ensure a free and safe vote. just the election make you think you, john, i'm way here to present an election way and no one's life is under threat. you can cost you about to anyone. you are free to do so. down forces and police will be present for you safety courses by those boxes and by that papers sealed,

and under high security. with more than 120000000 people are eligible to vote. this is a huge task. more than 90000 unfolding stations have been set up across focused on national and professional seats would be decided in this vote. but with the security threats in some areas, it's the ministry that's providing the security. but it's also the major treat that's been accused of interference. 650000 military police and power ministry have been deployed for this selection. $100.00 dining those days, no campaigning, and the 24 hours before the vote. and on the election day, there are limits around pulling stations for canvassing is made. you'll have will. uh, this is the bag with the ballot papers. they will not be opened. they are sealed inside will only be out of bins. and the presence of pauline agents, the elections will be fit. the run up to this election has been controversial with the leader of the main opposition in wrong calling in jail is being viewed by many of the most sensitive addiction and recent buckets. sonya history, international observers, as well as international media present to take a closer look at have free, free and transparent voting would be a sort of vague,

i just did all the hold of buckets done prosecutions. we then say they will enter their investigation into explosions, and then we'll stream one and 2 gas pipelines. vast amounts of anything were released when those pipelines, transporting russian gas to germinate will ruptured. in september 2022, the prosecutors have said they don't have the jurisdiction to pursue the case. maurice has one of them stuck on a. this is something of a we can things what has been very strong swedish involvement in this case. it was the sweetest navy the found, 2 crates as on the sea bed in the swedish economic zone, under the baltic and international waters button, the economic side, as well as the remains of explosive materials. and that led to this investigation being opened into what the sweets, 10 major sabotage. but the analysis and the swedish media this week is that the swedish authorities simply want this to go away. that's what have

a result they bring from this investigation is just not good at the swedish interests. you know, for example, there's been speculation that ukraine or ukrainian groups were involved in this, in this sabotage. but if, if sweden come to that conclusion, then it could cause problems for european union support for q have in the defense against russia. russia, again, have been a been implicated. they perhaps have the strongest motive of to, i guess applies 3 north stream. what cuts off to germany before these explosions but sweet and have a delicate diplomatic situation with russia at the moment, especially given the application to join nato, and that you don't want to to cause any more problems that without strong evidence rush it in turn have implicates it the u. k, and the u. s. suite a would certainly wouldn't want to come to that conclusion with

these 2 countries being at that very strong allies side, perhaps the conclusion that they've come to the prosecutor from the office behind me saying that it's a matter of jurisdiction. that no sweetie citizens or swedish territory was involved. it is a convenient way for them to close this without saying, we don't know who did it. it's been a hot potato, one that that hops, happy to pass over to germany investigates is now the work is germany is major efforts have threatened to extend the strike instead of loans. i don't meant operations came to a halt when more than 25000 crowns to off wilkes, off the job for 27 hours. hundreds of flights across the country been cancelled affecting more than a 100000 passages as well that set for maintenance dogs the entire for this news out. so now remember you can always find more on our website out. is there a dot com?

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