a need for the release of the last i've gone have implant on them will be retraces as steps, revisiting because that's it. that's further on present echoes of background with this documentary on the jersey to his israel and breach of the un court's ruling advance and national court of justice boarded. it's better to end acts of genocide as want us to prevent incitement. to commit genocide or facts. foss with more palestinians killed in guns every day, who can force as well to comply. this is inside story, the other. welcome to the program. i'm adrian. instead of going to the united nations top court has ordered israel to prevent and punish actions that could lead to or inside genocide and gaza. it also ordered much needed humanitarian aid and basic

services be allowed into the strip. the ruling was widely viewed as a step towards ending as well as war, but in the weeks that have followed troops have continued to act with impunity. intensifying the indiscriminate killing of palestinians about permit us to benjamin, that's in yahoo is threatening a possible military offensive in rough up the southern most point of the territories, palestinians are trapped with nowhere to go. so what can be done to end as well as brutality? we have plenty to discuss with, i guess the 1st, this report, saunders noticed you don't have some things you can stick as that. on january the 26th, the united nations highest quote, determined that was multiple evidence of genocide in gaza. it was a historic moment for palestinians and his it goes to the international court of justice, then ordered israel to take all measures within its power to present act the violate the genocide convention. but in the days that followed,

israel seems to have ignored the ruling. in fact, according to you and exploit francesca opened, as it appears to be in breach of the court orders in just over 2 weeks. since the i c j routing, the army has killed moved in 2000 palestinians in garza bringing the death toll to more than 28000 since october the 7th. in the same period over 3000 people were injured. the health ministry ones, these numbers will only rise with victims found under the rubble every day opened as a point to the continued demolition of infrastructure and the ongoing lack of medical supplies, food and clean water. as for other examples of israel's violation of the court's orders, it could get was prime minister benjamin netanyahu was ordered, has made a treat to roll up plans for the round defensive and refund in the southern most tip of casa one more than 1400000 displace palestinians,

2 thirds of the population, a sheltering in the city un facilities that are operating at many times above capacity schools. most churches and holes have become places of refuge. people are crammed into tents, make shift shelters, while others a sleeping on the streets would be disaster with the launch an attack on the roof. uh huh. uh they will be the muster of genocide, a criminal, the word criminal right. could say, while the i c j reading may be a legal victory for palestinians, many of king how beneficial it is. if israel defies its old as in gaza or, or i'll make a pedroza al jazeera inside story. so let's bring it, i guess, for today's discussion from rough uh and southern gaza with joined by usa from uh,

chicago residents and advocacy officer for the norwegian refugee council. here in doha is one robotic colored. it's a of a jetta. leah, an online news websites. he's also a non resident fellow at the center of the conflicts and she monetary and studies from london which went by name gordon and a professor of international law on human rights at queen mary university. they was also a board member of the international state crime initiative gentlemen, welcome to you. well, let's stop with you. use that as the any signed the, the israel is complying with the i. c j's orders. genuine to didn't see any difference either with me before the decision had been made by the c j o. at off the not, not been a does not send you that. and now we're talking about the fact that the, instead of the thing i could have somebody $160.00 is i'm video is more than a 1000 feet. it's a lot. and yeah, and unfortunately i use,

based on me to use that off. i didn't see it any change, it didn't change the amount of a that in into a rad job. i'm. i have after that because it situated in the north and bottom, got it and got the city which i'm pushing down to. now our hands on a side note we, i'm not able to provide that suspend to the bottom doesn't because we don't have an access, it was allowed but investigated to the local incentive for a few amounts of the items. and off of that unfortunately often that tax of one of the it's actually a bit of advice on the, on the go central. none of the dates are being sent to the northern part of guns, or i'm just gonna leave the connection that i'm or talk more about 400000 citizens living in a phase i listed on a minute. we used to coordinate, we use the code on demand that we have a the that's due at the very different payments. eventually we have a payment. what time are you looking for anything to pay that? unfortunately,

they don't have any option in front of any of the boxes you guys have to provide them. and if i need to get the service situation in gaza, unfortunately the situation have been being changed. and use of people must be particularly worried about israel's threat to launch a ground defensive. the in rough. uh, uh. where will people go? and that's the question everyone had said about if i had a family, so i'd been displaced alpha i've been display save a lot of times this is now became kind of expert in displacements. i'm far from the options that we had before. any person that i live in, the apartment goes into battery. i have been, i have flipped from a place to the about 4 or 5 times. now i don't have any other options menu. all of us have been to that been in the offer and more of that 60 percent of the housing unit in general, or because us the room had been destroyed that they made and how soon unit out in dropbox. so even if they would push someone ends from about 5 to be in for the for the again, unfortunately, that is no options. we don't have any place to go down to the city on the north and bought them drugs. i totally destroyed some of the areas under bombardment time and

the database is about loads unbuttoned and civil and it has been has been an inside pocket bridge and other areas. now we audited as between designated things and then you can go to from the left side. so even though alpha has, as a city, doesn't have that capacity for many, many of the 4 of these amounts of people who are being displaced about 5 more than 1000000, 500000 seats citizen in 55 square. going to miss out on leave without any option or solution or any hope in the rising sort of solution for the situation. nobody. what do you make of what you just heard the from from use of israel in breach of the un quotes rooting. i would argue that it's more in breach of the ruling today than it was on the day that the ruling was issued. so the, the nature and intensity of these really on slots on because the stroke appears to be changed. what has changed as a geographical scope, which as we've discharge,

has now extended to notify from the southern gaza strip. i think the other change is that time is a factor. so as we've just heard what had been hunger and severe hunger a month ago is now an actual found. and we've also seen that israel continues to blockade, continues to shoot up, aid convoys. snipes at um, ambulances are killing killing their staff and so on. so i, i really don't see anything any change and is really conduct except for the worse and with the additional factor of time. there's absolutely no reason to any judgment that was valid last month would not be at least equally valid. today, we'll leave the legal arguments and even just a moment, but politically, what can be done to force israel to comply? well, this is a decision really that is in the hands of israel's western sponsors,

particularly um the united states and the european union. we had a statement today, i believe from the white house indicating that the united states does not want to see any combat. and about 5 over the period of the dawn, which begins in um, around march tons. because its concerns about the regional repercussions. but what that into effect does is give israel a green light to continue and even intensify its campaign between now and that day. it's quite clear that if the united states wanted this to come to an end, it would take no more than a phone call from the white house to these early prime minnes shirts, and it would end instantaneously if they've made a choice that has made a decision they have an audiological commitment to israel's campaign. they are supporting it without qualification or reservations. and the consequences are what

we're seeing on the ground and what's on our guest and uh, and our fastest informed us about neve and they pulled in london. is it possible from a to a legal standpoint to determine yet whether israel is in breach of the orders issued by the i c, j, requiring it to take steps to protect palestinians rights and to cease or activities that could constitute genocide? i think it is possible to claim what beth israel is a breach, but israel's also we are saying that as well as also preparing a legal defense it's not as the 2 for speakers. no, it's not changing really. it's strategy off the ground. but it's actually instituting 3 know the, all the interventions to create a defense 1st. it's on chick a series of investigation to particular instance where it says may be war

crimes. what carried out we, we know that from the cost of these investigations, usually target soldiers, not commanders, and surely about political leaders. as if we look at 2014, after israel killed over 2000 pounds spent. yeah, there's only one investigation went through and then the 2 soldiers were found guilty of the only $200.00 pounds. so i don't think these investigations are serious legally, they're burial port. we also see how israel's a pack are united nation and relief and work agency. and the, the idea behind this attack is also a legal like the 1st it wants the claim, the method much the evidence provided by the south africa in the south african

applications. it is not true, it was given by un bobby's and like the you what the like, what a rob they to could be some way aligned with the quote unquote terrorist. and therefore, we should not believe this stuff with this setup, but it's uh, it's a bench that gets the phone or off stop support are not totally stop, but the type of limit the planetary on the 8th that's coming into the concepts trip saying, hey, this is a terrorist organization, we need oops, 1st to uh what, what is being brought in. and 3rd, uh, we see that there is much less genocidal. excitement empty is really media, but it's important to to understand that the issue of intent is not only the trips

up to be is randy. politicians is by the soldiers. but it is also the kind of actions that is roles painting. and so there's also the question of circle specially tense, namely, if these are all tax alpha, it will still be a, a in south africa will still be able to claim that it is covering it out, or skype. i've been tapped, that needs just just briefly, if you can legally then can be done at this stage to force israel to comply. i mean, what are the implications here for the i c j and, and it's a far as a there's a few questions here. one is that the i, c, j itself is solely a judicial arm. it's not an executive barn, but even if tomorrow morning, the i c j. rule done a sees fire or role that immediately much more humanitarian aid needs to come into

gaza. the only arm that can make is real. do that with them. the united nations framework is the security council. right. the ice itself as no and portsmouth, thank goodness, it's already talked to that role. and despite the fact that he is following, and i'm a probably, uh, the, i see the south africa kind of looks uh, apply again to the b i, c j and say, listen, be the situation is getting worse, these roles beginning it's on so out of their boss on the last 5, it's much more dangerous. can you issue other measures such as, was interesting about the things. although i would say the 1st missions exposures,

the only way to comply by them is a 6 of us by piece of paper. yes, it's fine. okay, use of how much picking up on on what they were saying that you've touched upon it and do it one of your 1st offices tell us more about the situation on a to cause is right and says that it is enabling the entrance of humanitarian aid in the cause, at his close facilitating the transfer, any amount of aid requested the scope of incoming a. it is only limited. it says by the handling capabilities of the u. n. and other agencies in the gaza strip. you'll saying both the best, but no improvement in the delivery of the availability of a drive. yeah, unfortunately, a few looked a vague junction side. you can see how many drugs are waiting just to be allowed to be in the settings that there is a huge problem with the supply chain did send in terms of pay huge where they access to our system. and to clarify the needs that we should go about agency and

unfortunately we've done our, the processing, providing the aid into guys that needs usually change before we we are, we have the, the, a benjamin in our hands. unfortunately, if you go again, so that jumps inside of the loaded up, you will see that tons of trucks out wait things to be allowed to go inside that process that it's taking really long the amount of trucks. i'm not covering 10 percent of the need in 150 to our advantage be today. why do we need to be covered at least a 1000 to be today? we as long. we never we didn't reach that number of drugs. ok. it's rex into guys that we will spend facing famine in the north. i know they've got that sort of situation in the area and another customer situation and about 5 because we cannot, we are not able to do our role without having the aid. the aid is way, think when the other side of the board that are waiting to be allowed when a daily basis they have to be,

they have to that's actually to be scanned from both side budgets inside vase that you decide. we would expect things that off that open and get them shut on, that the number of a k trucks would increase, but unfortunately we didn't see any difference either before or after. and it's i don't think that we need to look about the obligation as a way to, to do that. we need to think about that for me. humidity and respective. bit is huge. you need that is i've got that stuff. it cries is one of the most complicated a guy cries is on the planet. and i think without the allowing 1000 so i could do today. we are going up phase what we had facing guntee in. don't know if and that that. another thing is that to be highlighted, that, that issue and rough uh, out of savings, what's going on on the nose as far as that, the, because we don't have access either for communication information that we cannot be on the ground to understand exactly what's going on. but with what we receive from relatives, family members or friends from the north, it's heartbreaking, runs our,

our hands up to another tides in front of back because we cannot, we don't have the ability to access to the north and bottom thing. does the city to provide that system for time and we'll be talking in depth about the about this whole a issue on on next inside story on the on monday morning rabbani um yeah, i see change orders or a test not only of the the, the quotes authority, but of all the signatures to the genocide convention. but why the deafening silence from from any of those nations i'm, i'm a water pressure if any, this is rails failure to comply with the course provision the load is put on the us, and other is really allies. well, the court's rulings are binding on all the state parties to the genocide convention, and that includes the united states and that includes each and every member state of the european union. what we've essentially seen since their initial ruling is business. as usual, you take, for example, the netherlands were

a number of human rights organizations have sued the government. i'm seeking a court order to order the government to stop supplying spare parts for the is really of $35.00 jets that are raising the gaza strip to the ground. and the court ruled in favor of the government that fits reliability as a supplier. and as a, as a commercial supplier, trump and the other considerations such as the government's obligations under the genocide convention on monday. so there will be an appeal of, of this initial bowling and it will be very interesting to see if this time the courts decide that to yes, the genocide convention does apply not only um to adversaries and not images of the west, but to western governments. um, as well in terms of the united states,

i think we have to recognize how deeply ideologically committed president biden and his most senior aides are to and as really victory. their real issue with this real is not what is real is doing to policy citizens. but what is real is not doing to policy and is in other words, as rules failure to achieve a military victory against a policy, an armed organizations. that is really the only significant difference between washington and the israeli government. and. and as professor gordon said, the i, c, j does not have enforcement mechanisms. and what we've seen is western governments essentially acting as if that are free to ignore their obligations. visa v as real . and it's a genocidal campaign of the gaza strip. they've gotten bought as the law say about countries likely us who hold influence of israel countries but a that are also signatures to the genocide convention,

one of their responsibilities on the international. but you certainly cannot be complicit with genocide then i think what williams showed and said is that there are several countries now that have been complicit with israel's genocide or violence both by supply weapons and money and by supplying political support. and i, i know that there are several lawyers about preparing a capes against the united states and the u. k. governments for a complicity. i know that the foreign office in, in, in the u. k. has expressed serious concerns about israel was committed war crimes. in the gaza strip at a time when the u. k. government continues to transfer weapons to be as well. i

think these governments, they will also be careful and these leaders need to be careful, but the history will not judge them as being that's taking part in, in, in, in one of the worst genocide on the 21st century. yes. if i'm not sure what your, your message to the will be right now. i'm on this issue of whether or not israel is complying with the i. c j is orders. is that a guy it is that is that he's not being applying to die. c, j, but then you commitment to that would need as an international committee community to do that role. unfortunately, since the beginning of this war, we didn't see any an action for that on the water lead the us as an event itself, as i come through who was leading the world. unfortunately, we have not seen at the audience if thoughts, thoughts still being that's what's going on. and what's that, what's going, what's taking place in god. god is in human and we don't see an action from the

machine community unload it. the, the, once again, we are failing and the international community is failing us as far as spinning and viewing bows. are we from that the american community to that investigated, to concert tonight? the nation now the i c. j. i think that no more efforts can be done for palestinians, and that was the last step that could be done towards designed to save the lives of fat athenians and goes on to this madness. and we don't see at election, and unfortunately they have to send, had very sponsibility is because we went ahead and responsible. okay, in front of us on the history thing. what normal body, what are the implications then for the as really political establishment on, on deciding whether to comply or not with the course professional orders and as is israel ministry in lock step here with the government or is, or is there some on the east and the ministry i'm, i'm sure there is a news at the level of both the political and military leadership needs

of all being put under scrutiny. and i think on these, at the tremendous moral and political loss that they have incurred by now being found to be plausibly committing genocide, particularly given that as real as so reliance on the goodwill of western public opinion. and much of that support comes from the image of israel as being somehow reparations for the nazi holocaust. um now as real as associated with genocide as a perpetrator and not only as a victim, so this will have severe, long term consequences. but i think in the present moment, i think these really leadership isn't really looking at the find points of the law . it's not even looking at the hague. nothing. yeah. who was very clear that he won't be affected by anything coming out of the hague. in terms of this military campaign. he's looking at washington, and he's looking at brussels. those are his political one for that matter,

legal terms of reference. and it will be on the basis of what emanates from those 2 capitals, that he will decide what he will and will not do next. they have to do to pick up on, on what one was saying. the israel, of course, has a history of pushing the limits of instructional laura, i wonder, to what extent israel's governess is, is circumventing its own domestic legal system to justify its, its actions in gaza as well. we have not seen a substantial increase in humanitarian that's demanded by the court. we have not seen a significant change and the repertoire is of violence deployed as the guys and the decrease in the killing of civilians. and these i think, uh, we wears the same level of civilian death as we saw before, the large school a. so i guess it's a contract, better shift quite after we have not seen any in dire need of investigation of

those and citing genocidal violence forgiveness divided by the court. so it's really government, i think has been assigned to that in many ways. it is going to ignore the code or reduce the legal establishment, as i pointed out earlier, preparing a legal defense. but i think we also have to remember that in that time, you know, has and personal interest to continue with this. more of the power spin young people because he knows that the minute he will start this more then he will be under immense investigation and he is rarely public will demand his resignation. so the only uh uh, what is keeping the yeah, well actually in power is the war. and therefore he is saying as i think we're

bonnie said before. but despite what the international community said, despite what the court said, despite the been what the president of the united states and said, he's going on and instructing from the military to go into the, the, to rock. and so i think there is now a kind of a clash between a certain legal establishment within israel, but the still respect o'six v i v i c j and i am the political and military living leadership. that was correct. that gentleman, i'm afraid we're going to have to read it many thanks to your use of hon ashmore and rabbani and they've gotten as always thanks for watching. you can see the program again at any time by going to the website. i'll just here a dot com for further discussion. join us a facebook page at facebook dot com forward slash 8 inside story. out of course, you can join the conversation on x on handle the a page right inside story from me,

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