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hello welcome to the program. i am how sion, how the bible, the united nations, is warning that garza is on the brink of famine, is why it is that use of preventing humanitarian aid from witching palestinians, an owner, while the main us agency operating in this trip may be forced to stop or is operations? alas though no nations about suspended funding was you back into the oceans? all this comes just weeks off to the international court of justice, or that is why i have to allow. and i quote, urgency needed, basic services and humanity and assistance into the strip. so what if anything can be done to force as well to comply with the routing the best plan to, to discuss with august. but 1st, this report looks of the situation on the ground and gaza. palestinians and girls are living in desperate conditions of the laws of all of us. the most many your children have no guns or dying of hunger. there is no milk for them. there is no
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sugar for them. there is no rice for them. there is no flower for them. hunger is doing yes. i only little pieces of bread today. we are reduced aging grass. on january the 26th, the international court of justice ordered as well to take immediate steps to enable the provision of urgently needed basic services. and she monetary and assistance into gaza. but those living inside the territory say, the ruling is little bull. the empty woods are still there, you guys have little more. there's nothing except showing empty apartment and hunger. my children cry because they're hungry. read, they never received any humanitarian a to a day off to the court's decision. is rel, accused 12 employees at the u. n. agency for the palestinian refugees under what of taking part in her mouth attacks on southern israel in october. the stuff will fly it as an investigation was opened, but it wasn't enough to reassure some donations about 20 countries have suspended
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funding to unreal or said that they would reassess future pledges the un agency as well, and it may not be able to continue it to look up to the end of february, which would come the only lifeline to millions of palestinians. the federal government. if the palestinian people use one rugs, assistance were as good as the as good as data. we have nothing but one run little really living in the street. there was 3 border crossings into casa, to which israel and one with egypt, although israel inspects old people and goods coming in or out of the territory through egypt. both countries are accused of holding up a deliveries to see did not want to open up the gate to allow you mandatory material to get in. i talked to, i can just open the gate. the chip should government vehemently denies it
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as the war drags on you and leaders have described the value of a entering garza as a trickle in comparison to the sea of humanitarian need for all to come patrols out to 0 to inside story to who would talk to i'm a guess in a moment, but 1st let's listen to that. all is who i spoke to earlier to the gender justice and production office of a child of the ox fund fee that joined to be from blah, blah and southern gaza. what is why is whitening last gave ground offensive? i began by asking, heard about the humanitarian situation. the he monetary and situation and wrestling is we're sending find a minute. uh, we are talking about a very limited district bure applicant area. i've seen more than 101000000 and a half i to use most of which are seek and tens of there is a very severe lack of access to water drinking water, domestic water,
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severe uh, inability to access fluid. uh, this all comes into a very cold winter where the living conditions are really deteriorated. um we have a very huge need for me to get kids on his or him to care facilities which are over 30. it didn't, it just starts with me. um, the burden on these facilities is increasing, especially after last night's attacks. that took the 10s of lies and let's hundreds injured and even more degrees situation regarding dish, the dish of the 3rd month. many people better, better be care centers. last night on the we unfortunately, we expect that to, to worst and even more in the coming days and weeks. if this is, it is not stop. these riley armies preparing for this ground,
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offensive in rough block, give us a sense of the best for the civilian population. is that operations, thoughts? we are feeding uh for our lives. basically. then there is the prospect of having to relocate us again to seek a safer place. and as i said before, draft is very limited geographically. so there is barely any place to go to that would be waived room by this room dead grand encouraging way. if it's happened, that's right, it probably wouldn't have been giving us any a whole offered to promise to off up on a city is a law on the safe passage to move in areas. would it make any difference given the fact that in the past, those safe passages will been bothered by these bodies relentlessly is really where you walk in direct off. you, you feel you have the feeling that 10 to spring from the ground and at the evicted as you walk. this is how crowded it is. so i would really like to see what,
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what's the safe passage? eh, what would look like? where would it lead us? i don't think it's possible at all. is well, is under obligation to comply with the international court of justice or does particularly when it comes to allowing immediate and quick age into this trip as a work of the could you give us a sense of the aid, which is dr. to integrate? is it enough actually, it's nowhere near enough. it's um, it's hardly a door open to ocean of all of the needs on. i've been working as a humanitarian for the past 18 years and discharge with garza has been under seas for 16 years. and it's always been a challenge to get supplies to gaza. but what we're witnessing now, what we're living now is unprecedented. a, we barely get anything. we barely could get a b up trucks of a say the,
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as you said, you've been working as a worker for many, many years in goes, i would like to ask you a, a personal question. you have your own assignment. do you have your children? what's next? for you, if the ground invasions thoughts and rough actually, it's not a very easy question to answer it. since i've been asking it to myself for the past month or so. i've been thinking of my mother 5 kids, and of course i feel responsible for their live further safety. but i can freely can decide what to do. i try to plan to 5 saved for place or at least bid lee place they say because say for is very exaggerated word. i don't know actually, to be honest. if i will find such a place, if i find such a place, how will i manage your sins or what would i do?
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the button. uh, how will i move there? uh will i be able to move, for example, last night we felt it was a line taken care jim, and i was faced with my children waking up at 3 am, and they were just too bad making, like, let's suppose let's move. and i honestly gro was, i didn't know how to move, where did that with that the districts would come in if from doing, take the risk to go and district, then more or do i stay and wait and, and the risk being hit. so it's a very, very difficult question that we keep asking ourselves every day. every day. we just told that we, that they wouldn't mind is someone will manage to store all of this before advert. actually grab did vision because it's really up. it seems like the end of the line for everyone here to drop off of the
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best to bring in august from new haven, connecticut with joined by audiences. a professor of international queens university and ofa of united nation is on the question of palestine and in london. is chris goodness, for most books, person for under uh who is speaking to us in an independent capacity. welcome to the program of the easy way and has until february 25th to report to the i. c. j way has done to combine with the 6 or does it issue today would put more emphasis on the humanitarian aspect. do you believe that is right, is doing what it takes to ensure that a consistent delivery of age into this trip. thanks for having the hash and uh, insurance you know, uh, since the provisional measures order of the i, c. j was issued on the 26th of january. there been 17 massacres. committed in the gaza strip. 2000 killed, 2000 palestinians, killed,
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of course. and obviously as an severe intensification was situation in sales, we now have $1400000.00 palestinians, which towards the south, on the border with the egyptian side i and the prospect of permanent forcible transfer of this community into egypt, either through direct bombardment and the nurse or the tribunal that compels ap result or over time through starvation used as a method of war. and the cutting off of humanitarian aid and assistance this community looms large. and the situation on the ground is, is tremendously difficult. on the order of a neck of the sort that we saw in 1948 and beyond. to chris, you would expect that under the old as issue as by the i c j, the focus would be pretty much on delivering aid. ensuring that the situation is
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contained, however, is while appears to be not preparing for its ground offensive. united nations such as a general, i'm telling you, go to reset and wound that the is riley evasion would exponentially. i'm quoting him, increase what is already a humanitarian nightmare. what would be next, full, gaza, if the operations thoughts it will to be very clear. we all already see starvation or mass scale mazda in griffith. the most seen a humanitarian in the you, in the system, such as a several weeks ago. the full $100000.00 people are truly stopping to be clear. starvation is a slow motion. mexico all day has mentioned the number of massacres that we've seen . so it is this a professional measures or the big a mastercard is the stop ation. and to be clear, those member states who are presently these funding unreal,
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all complicit in that slow motion mask. they already complicit in violation of the genocide convention, which makes it no obligation on state policies to prevent its genocide. the clue is in the name the, the conventional, the prevention and punishment of genocide. there were 3 of the 80 got to choose. first of all, that's all i think is quite right, said is the foundation provision measures. sadly, it is a violation of international humanitarian law, which is by clear that food cannot be used as the width and that the war. and there are many other, by the way, i know violations that we now see, including provisions for the protection all civilians in time of war. i'm sorry falsely, it is a foundation of humanitarian principles, neutrality, and impartiality. which is why i say that the logical illegal immoral the funding upon what needs to be introduced immediately on the rims needs
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to go out of halls, way mountain. this is really also to give him a safe passage passage to the middle. we know it's really save passage means it means the killings on industrial scale well needs to happen is that the neck a few as well as the 2 pine power needs to the population, which is not just on the he's the techy, it's on the it's bones it's convincing what we, i so jake has cool a plausible genocide. again, it's 2300000 people. what needs to happen is a israel needs to open up and give protection to these people immediately. audit octave is ta been saying about since the i c j is that to referee disputes between nations. because of the relentless bombardment, the targeting of health care facilities, ambulance is the access roads. this could be a strong case for the i. c. c to prosecute is riley soldiers,
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officials for atrocities committed against the people of gaza. are you that you should that be a case to be prosecuted? i am, but we know that we know that the boss of the prosecutor has at the file opened. he is investigating the situation in palestine. sadly he's been taking a horribly long time in order to be so. but all of the events that we've seen on folding in the occupied gather stripping, indeed, and occupied palestinian territory since 7, october and before are now increasingly before his team in, in hague. and so there's no reason to not to believe that the matter is more no more urgent for the office, the prosecutor, which, which you should be moving, that as soon as possible. i think i'd like to also offer the following. um, there are about 7 border crossings. with you guys, a strip generally one into egypt and 6 others into israel. and the point that was
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raised by chris is an extremely important one. that is to say, these roommates are so concerned about them, knowing the 1000000 and a half people, or more in the gas a strep, who may be subjected to bombardment, and want to remove them somehow and provide them with safe passage. not only is the negative, the obvious place for them to go, but the viewers need to understand that upwards of about 80 percent of they are about the population of the gaza strip are themselves not from dallas, or they are palestine. refugees registered with unreal. and they originate either the original refugees or their descendants. they originate from those refugees who were ethnically cleansed and 1948 from areas in what is now israel including the negative. and so wouldn't be out of the ordinary for these re lease to allow those people back to their homes. indeed, it's a requirement under international law for these, or at least to allow those people to return to their homes. and in this case, under bombardment, the world is on its head,
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all the result of the complete disproportionate, unnecessary response to the october 7 attack against israel. chris, the i guess the back to of, of the applicant lift took situations that you can see and fold in gaza. octave is hobbies thing basically that you need more than 500 trucks to be crossing into guys on a daily basis, to cope with a massive demands of the people now to us by the, by the tip of the world by surprise. one of his studies was hateful. convinced is there some presidency to open the roof? crossing venza is right. is that a thing of this is of the same time to have their own unit, the co got which the as is with united nations, when it comes to the delivery of 8. and which basically says that the reason why we are a big bit ticket us is that we'd like to ensure the food delivers. don't end up being in the hands of how much productivity we're talking about people who have to wait weeks and weeks and months because the mic, how does it itself is not working? is it politically motivate to think it's hot questions the address to me,
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how shall i would say unequivocal yes of cool. this is a little politically motorbike. seems to be very clear. this is the political agenda, all the fall, fascist writes israel. you don't have to be a conspiracy theorist. you can just google it. look at the things that are being said. it'd be cleansing dawson about destroying life in gaza, preventing any kind of cigars, a sudden make no mistake. well, lies behind. this is the notion that if you destroy abra, if you destroy garza, then somehow you'll guessing the weight of the palestinian refugees, the rights of which uh, not to be clear on the guessing would have on. right. it's just the un general assembly, which hands down on was monday as h. b, a subsidiary organ of the general assembly and only the general assembly can change on was mandates. secondly, the policy for refugees, all people, they have a in
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a level rights group, individual and collective rights. and those rights also include the right political rights of self determination. of course, it's refugees that can make 3 choices, including the rights of a ton integration, where they all say pass just with the complex, getting rid of forcing these residues to another possible factors. no, getting rid of the biggest problem here is ready, freshest rock, which is they all individuals. they don't people with a group and collect 2 products and getting with them on ro, pushing them out displacing would solve the problem. doesn't change the fact that they don't people with the right. it's the right to dignity, the right to justice, the right to counsel ability, the right to prosperity and the right to so 7 nation. and that remains, that human beings all. do you see the pictures of the people's suffering in gaza?
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and then the question basically itself once again, who is to be held accountable for the uh, the slow delivery of 8 into into a district? is it the, is riley on, is it that the neighbors? is it the international community, or is it just simply bureaucratic hurdles? yeah, i mean, in the 1st instance hash and that would be the, is really as occupying power in the gaza strip. they have an obligation to this sounds rather all. i didn't know the circumstances, but their obligations under international are to protect the civilian palestinian population in the gaza strip. not bombard them indiscriminately, and you start patient against them as a tool of war. so in the 1st instance, that under international law, its these rabies who have the obligation to protect that population, including sure the provision of humanitarian aid sufficient to scale and so on. as per not only the i c, j, provisional measures order of 26, january. but general public international law, law,
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belligerent occupation to fortunately the convention and so on. but in addition to that, you have the 3rd states who have an obligation to quote, ensure that israel respect the terms of humanitarian law, common article one of the 4 geneva conventions, as well as under the provisional measures order of 26, january. they have an obligation, as chris said earlier to prevent the commission of genocide. and that means providing means and ways to ensure greater humanitarian support to the cost and young people in the gaza strip. not less. and therefore, the funding of entre runs counter to their obligations under the genocide convention. i just wanted to offer the following, based on the procedures. we have evidence 3 days after that the provisional measures order was issued by the court. we have clear evidence in the public realm of, of a conference taking place of by the these really far right injuries. i'm called the quote unquote return to gas conference,
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at which at least i think 11 ministers of government appeared. and 15 members of government, uh, the cabinet, forgive me. they were there. and in this conference they are open calls by multiple members of the, of the is really a body politic as well as governing structures. saying that basically we want to return that as returns re me settlers to the guys district after we ethnically cleanse the guys as strips lost in these 4 month period of coverage over the gaza strip. is the simple truth. the israel is using the events of 7 october as a pretext to best include clinton's 2200000 palestinians, or as many of them as possible out of the gas a strip. this is a strategic goal of israel. they've been open and public about their interest in doing so, and their actions on the ground, their military actions and so on. now the subject of a provisional measures order under the genocide convention of the i,
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c j the lot or demonstrate all of that. so the, the story really is about how to steve off to stop the ethnic cleansing of the guys a strip as even worse, the possible genocide of the people there. chris, the, when you look of the orders issued by the isaac a, there was, it was, i mean, all of us that 2 key components, what fact? so then when it comes to the decision making process, basically the they want to to make sure that there was no genocide the intent and that aid goes to the gaza. what's next? my god zones i on this is why am i asked you about under why? how do you see the future full guys? a now that the humanitarian aid lifeline on why? hands by a flat. well 1st of all, on this question, oh the, i see, see the i c j i see accountability as a very broad campus. so yes,
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that's the i c j which is due to face to face between states that the licensee which can bring cases against individuals. but there's also the work being done in national geo sections just the day we had was yesterday we had a really in hollywood of on supplies. it's clear that they cannot make precious touchy recently down grades is the can nomic relationship with israel. so there are many other things getting all across the board, i think as far as a people gossip are concerned. i think the future is bleed. i think the while you have a situation where they in some actual community colleges want maya good in the united states, canada offer pad a on the one hand to continue supplying weapons, as well as diplomatic and political support to the united states. as you seem as in the security council, so the same time, the phone, the very organized, ation established by the united nations to bring the humanitarian release of the
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systems to these people though, i think there was a real problem. but to be clear at austin being here before these people would strongly was it is, i hate to use that. what was it is in the face of a plausible genocide. the fire panel role, people authentic that to you kind of a role of people, that identity and that destiny, frankly. okay. how do i do that by subject to the to what's going on very well, i'll leave this terrible, terrible as it might seem with them. i says, both of you mentioned the model legal obligations of a 3rd party is a go to audio fast on the south african lawyers hoping to return back to the end of this month the to the i c j and say that basically a given the track records of the i said you, referent disputes between nations. there is the potential for them to say, wait
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a 2nd. if the americans, the bates and the, the, the, the europeans, you are not able to use that leverage with these varieties in terms of telling them it's about time to stop the voice about time to deliver aid. that could be a case for them to prosecute those nations for that inaction and not willing to move forward because that be a process. okay, so far yes. in short, yes. as i said earlier, all signatories to the all parties to the genocide convention and have an obligation to prevent. and the moment that they were put on notice by the court on the 26th of january of the possibility of genocide taking place is the moment that based on the court's jurisprudence, they, their, their obligation to prevent is triggered. now, to the extent that those 3rd states, canada, and, and others of the you, k, france and now there's kind of the united states,
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do not take effective measures to prevent they expose themselves to 2 possible cases brought by other states including south africa, but non exclusively to south africa, other parties to the convention, and bring any claims against them before the court. basically saying that you failed in your duty to prevent the nicaraguans, for instance, hasn't had now attempted to join or rather to intervene in the south african matter with israel. that's just an example. so it is possible that you can have further litigation before the court did it. you know, it would depend on this 3rd state in question. some of these states have sort of attracted to the jurisdiction of the court with declarations submitted before the court. that pre date, the, the, the south african matter. but there are some states who are exposed. that is, that is a possibility i take so we thank you. thank you. of course, as you were running out of time, i really appreciate your time audit and says and chris to get his thank you very
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much indeed. as thank you to for watching, you can see the program again any time by visit our website and visit i dot com for further discussion. go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a giant sized story. you can also join the conversation on x and that is not a j insights. sort of let me ask a lot, a lot of the entire team here and they'll have bye for now the the they begin with breaking just north of rasa. 2 in southern garza to algebra 0, john this have an engine and is really trying to strike correspondence. it's not, i will not, and camera land locked out with both hit and that's how we understand is in serious condition. they've been transferred to the european hospital for treatment
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a lot. in con eunice, he's really only has destroyed the northern gates on the wall of the last the medical complex. and specifically those buildings for weeks nasa is the biggest the hospital and also south. is there any forces have told everyone sheltering inside to evacuate the premises? and so the hundreds of despised palestinians of that. but let's go straight to our correspondence on the ground honeymoon when he joins us now. from rafa in the south . honey, do we know how is smiled and put off focus through what happened? yes. well another tragedy i against the journalist on the ground covering what's going on within the past 45 minutes, our colleagues acknowledges 0 double all mark i was. is there a correspondence as well as his camera? man? i am of the mother in northern roof. i particularly in mirage area that's in the northern. busy part of or by city there where in the field word document thing the
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living conditions of this place, palestinian displaced families in that particular area and documenting the horror that they have experienced a live disprove. within the past 24 hours as massive areas, right, targeted, a major parts of rough ice anywhere close to a 100 people have been killed. they were directly targeted by the missiles. it fired by a drone, directly targeting them as the where and right there covering the living conditions of this place. palestinians, family, intense and inside residential homes and evacuation is owens both of them where rush to a nose job hospital that's in central rough. i. how about a 15 to 20 minutes away from the side that they were targeted? but the fact that the jar hospitalization, mid sized hospital doesn't have.
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