to the hospital, which seeing this gentleman is just behind me, hundreds of people have been back to h as an in depth coverage thailand states it's future on fossil fuels, no renewable. i'll just use teams on the ground, bring you closer to the heart of the story. yes another inconclusive main thing to wait to deal with with how much and fees? well, it comes as these right admitted to a flattening a ground defensive of the southern tip of gaza. so does diplomacy still spend a chance in this war? and why does not to this is inside story, the hello welcome to the program. i'm how sion had a bottle of he's around is whitening a ground defensive, rough off. he might tell you, organizations have wound of

a catastrophe. if it goes ahead behind the scenes, mediators are still trying to broadcast east by a deal for possible drug defensive into a lot that has bays the stakes of the negotiations, which resumed this week. what would it take for him on sunday, as well, to beach and agreement as lots to discuss with august? first, this report all the situation in rough israel is intensifying its aerial bombardment, rough or something most city. and the goal is to strip at least one and a half 1000000 palestinians have fled that taking refuge in tents and makes shift show to many have been displaced. several times escaping is ready, palms and following is ready. forced evacuation order as well. uh, equipment. i mean from the, on the car, we were to sleep at home when it happened, the sudden bombing, we didn't know what was going on, the gunshots best from the street to street. we also had 5 digits and had to go up to this morning. then we will hit the missiles so that we were in total shock and

we didn't know where to high up and i'm supposed to live in the bowl. these rated military designated rafa safe. so now it's threatening a ground defensive, trapped between the egyptian border and the mediterranean sea. terrified civilians have no way left to go i think is a deadly series portion. israel has the intentions to carry this out. and the problem is the net to yahoo is argue that there are full functional, how mosque battalions in rockford. now originally that were 24, appraising him us battalions as well now, long use it. this is all, i think, for all located solely in rock by surveys rel, would to carry out, is stated war him of degrading and destroying em, us militarily, and rendering it politically unable to rule the gauze for after the war example feels like a grand evasion of rock but is not just inevitable but necessary. and in fact is important to note that previously these really military late suggested the is

roshan. prioritize ross of 4 grand invasion because this is obviously an area of the 6 on the border with egypt is where most of the tunnels passed through. and how much is elaborate to smuggling operation has been based in for many, many years. but as well as political leadership, vito died in favor of initial operation early in the north of golf and i particularly ran dollars and city as this rose failed to achieve its goals as far as the war increasing slightly so on rock but is of course the last place on the map still and how much is control? how some of these writers have this thing though, if i hadn't made the final. uh, see for how much key made a 2 battalions. do you see the push pull it off as a turning point in the water and garza. thank you, i assume and yes, i think we're at a major what you said moment in this conflict. not just because of the mass save

humanitarian cost of any tool cause a ground invasion. we shouldn't forget that throughout the war. and even in the last week, these are these continue to bombard, drop off. this is not an area that has been a safe zone as they initially labeled it as thoughts when they, us citizens, to move from the city and further north down to the south. but also because of course it is. uh right. it sits right on the border with the egypt. it's at the last, it's seen by the egyptians as a major breach of you know, that, that national security. and ultimately, it brings into the question of why will these 1340000 people go the know the rest of how does that is effectively uninhabitable? there on those services we're on we, we, we've had the talk of funding for months now and, and now we're at a stage where this is, this is really the, is randy government enacting what they promised them the 1st week off to the

attacks october 7th, which is the flat to illustrate all of the is right, the problem is understanding the whole has been all doing the all me to draw up plans, evacuated civilians from the city towards the north end as have so it was basically saying the safe in gaza if the invasion takes place. what kind of impact do you see it, having all the civilians facing of the south or battalions or hang there we, we can't lose sight that the i c j a few weeks ago. said that israel has, is, is plausibly perpetrating a genocide against the pallets and people. and if you look at it through that lens, then what they happens to. ready for the people of gaza is, is as much military as it is a psychological to break the, the will of the people that are hanging on for dear life that have a mass there that are starving. and that israel has, has demonstrated through which we. ready is indeed its intention is to put push

them into the sign i credential roll. that's what seems on roll on for the full phases the really land plus bombardment or the northern part of, of, of guys and then these varieties move to was heine units. and each time that was saying, basically, the reason why the doing this is to degrade the minutes. what capabilities of have my sons in my hands admitted to present as a but also the looking to had to what happens next. now when it comes to it off, i do see how would you see the scope of the invasion if it happens, then what kinds of weaponry do things these riley's believe be using i suspect will see significant numbers and boots on the ground at now israel has encouraged this and significant minutes, every casualties in this campaign, but it is actually the, those policies and the numbers all lower than the initial. all the estimates suggested now and less that just short of $600.00 is ready. the military personnel had been killed since october. the 7th boat at stolen majority of those were killed october the 7th. so 4 months of fighting has been less,

is ready to cash these than on that one day. i think these ready military were very keen to get in there for the problem. he has some of the other guests of alluded to israel house based on folding humanitarian crises on his own home, on his homes. and that crisis is also an operational issue here because we have 1500000 civilians crammed into this very small territory that used to be inhabited by around 250 people that so the potential for civilian casualties is even higher than it has been out of its funds since military campaign, you have an acute problem of civilian casualties. israel also cause morgan acute need to avoid civilian casualties. on the other hand, because international pressure and combination is increasing the by not just ration make you increasingly clear, is losing patients with israel, and it was the cx 5. and it was that the escalation hostilities as soon as possible . so as well as in a race against time to achieve its very, very lofty goals that didn't really correspond to a limited incursion,

but time is running out for it to do so. but yeah, when you look at the situation on the ground, you see a totally different reality. i have so 1400000 people shot to him in times without access to food water and met his in the united nations. and he might tell you the fast chief mountain griffith said that the miniature prices could lead to a slaughter nga. you have these varieties as saying the other mental the need to go that because they say that's the only way for them to crush. how about do you still think that the international community can have some sort of leverage to some of these riders for moving forward to i mean, just as also to comments on the, on the previous intervention, answer your question. the question is, do they have leverage is very obvious. yes. they do come. they have leverage to the main question because they haven't even used it. they haven't attempted to. the un has made its please, the security council has had resolutions table,

but the united states has vetoed united states that the largest military of supply and both aid and on sales to as well. no leverage has yet been used by the international community. the biggest powers, namely by the united states to try and prevent the so we sort of talking around in circles because we get these double speak statements from the white house, from, from different podiums in washington telling us that they're incredibly concerned. and they've explained these consent at no points in this, in this campaign. over the last 5 months, have the united states move to actually have it for all the trouble to a number of incidents and actions that seem to full fall out of the um, bit of the rules of engagements in conflict, let alone the intense bombardment that alone the attacking of civilian infrastructure, humanitarian infrastructure, like hospitals and other places. so we're actually more to stage of talking about austin yourselves. will the united states use as leverage,

holding vacations to this point, even with thoughts as low as mountain griffith. very well, points up and drop off new meg doesn't appear that it will use as leverage. so we have to move to expect that that will be no significant push 5 against these rallies. moving forward on this invasion to the ha, i'm out of the south african lawyers when they put together or the, the, the, the, the procedure to was the for the i c j. they were hoping to see the thought process particular states to provide substance submitted to a financial assistance to is well be held accountable. in the case of something similar to what happens, i was, it always goes on, particularly if the invasion of fluffy takes place. is this something that could further resonate among the judges of the ice? a g knowing that the south africans, they have us officially, the ice age i to consider was that a full scale invasion of love? i would violate the into the voting by the court itself. issued yes, i think i think uh, you know, what's uh,

what's transpired over the past few weeks since the initial ruling definitely comes into play. when the south africans have gone back, are going back to the i. c. j to ask for, for, for the rulings further injunctions because of the situation being so urgent with what's happening on the portal itself. so i think they have to take that into consideration. certainly we all hope that israel's enablers over the past 4 months, would have gotten the message from the i, c j and, and put pressure on israel to, to halt it's been barred, meant and to at least take seriously the 6 orders of the i, c, j, in terms of protecting a civilians, unfortunately that has not happened. i totally agree with have in terms of her analysis on all of this. but we have to take the by the administration's hand wringing when it comes to nothing yahoo with the sense of disingenuousness. because in spite of, in spite of the rhetoric, the u. s. has continued to enable and every in every way, i mean, just 2 days ago,

the us senate passed, you know, if 14000000000 dollar aid package to israel. now it still needs to go through the house, but that should tell you a lot. in spite of the ruling of genocide, this is where we are. rather when you look at the post october the 7th through then you don't get a sense of these right? it really have a sense of clarity about how to move forward me to town really oh, politically. because people are wondering why would these, why it is this side now to go for an offensive in rough, like when everything got it is a stick. the typically the talks which are behind closed doors to try to secure a political deal that would pay the way for these rarely captive to be reduced. yeah, i think what we're seeing here is a very delicate balancing act. boy, that's in yahoo because and he does have, i want to challenge this user. there is no pressure from the bottom inspection. i think i was extremely one sided interpretation that is pressure from the bite of ministration. it is a moment launch the behind closed door,

the bottom. myspace has tried to shape this war. it is getting increasingly frustrated. and he's rel, i'm a power of non compliance in what it wants to achieve and what it's asking for from these raiders. but it is pressuring these ladies behind closed door over time that may become increasingly public. so that to me, yeah, i thought pressure on the one hand to de escalate or agreed to a ceasefire, or at least to tell us how this ends. but what, but yeah, but you know what, it is that the coalition within israel and that's and you know, who is dependent on a fall right. coming as you who said, we will talk to the government if there is a deal to at 3 the hostages, the ends of the seas funded doesn't add to the mazda store. this isn't matching the best interest to remain on video as for as long as possible. and as a result, we see israel basically expanding its campaign because the military is not getting a clear enough and basically direction of the most and the political rational and

subordinate. the, you know, uh, rubbers, of the general consensus who this, both of the weather absolutely don't believe that there is any push by the international community all the, i'm not, it goes to put an end to the war in gaza or for any leverage on the is right is because, but so this aside and look at the scope of the massive destruction and the loss of life in gaza. and then you get a sense that nobody's doing anything to try to help the policy is half. so with this have any kind of impact on the folks on the way to come up with a political agreement? i mean it's also actually quite interesting and how they're running concurrent. so all of this language coming out to be is randy will cabinet and from the prime minister that focused on and off off. and i, you know, we, we continue to be in the cycle where we get a flurry of diplomacy from us officials to come to the region. and this sort of, you know, initially it took some proposal that has been amended and shaped into something that it is hoped that can be some meeting in the middle between is relevant and,

and i'm us, i'm, at the same time i would just sort of unit wide in the scope a little bit. if we're talking about a political agreement, we kind of look at how does that in a, back to what has happened in the west bank since october 7th, thousands of public opinion. and so i've been arrested hundreds have been killed just since up to the 7th, let alone pre october, 7th in the bottom. and since you in disposition and you know, an increase of civilian militia at the hands of the national security minister, this government is ralph has a very clear co current empower now policy. it is looking to implement under the guise of this war. and the fact that under the guise of this one apartment in the us of its 6 to route out from us and the 2 are not mutually exclusive of one another and then not working separately of one another that very much in terms of and i agree that, you know, method, yahoo is completely dependent on this far right coalition. within the same sense

this far right coalition is dependent on the current circumstances of this war to continue to conduct its behavior and its activities across the entirety of the occupied territories. so even if we want to look at a hostage agreement and so kind of see spot in, in the heads up with a hostage present, a swell in the last one that we saw more is kind of sinews were arrested, the were released. so the entire team of the tired trees and seems to be taken into account, which is not being done on the part of any of the actors around the table speed in cairo, in paris, or at any point that they've mentioned recent weeks of my would it be possible for the toddlers, the gypsies, of the american to now to some of the differences between how much and is why this is why this done is why it says that they would continue even with a deal. they would continue the fight until they crush. how much, how much on the other hand is saying they're not going to go ahead with anything unless there is strong guarantee of a permanency is by and these right is putting out entirely from guys that would be

possible for the mediators to not assemble those differences. unfortunately i don't see them coming together. maybe narrow a bit, but ultimately i think these 2 sides are too far apart. israel i think is intent on the, you know, in pursuing this campaign to the end and nothing else was made that clear total victory. what that means is a bit more obscure. some people are reading into it the, the elimination of how math is military capabilities. others are reading it to something that you know far more sweeping against the palestinian people in gauze i mean towards the latter, but i don't think that nothing, you know, has any intention of stopping. i don't think there is even a prioritization of the hostages that remain there. if so is or it would not be carpet bombing the gaza strip. you know, its already killed the 31 of its own people including 3 that were shot dead waving white flags trying to escape. and so i don't think there's, you know, any,

any other interest here besides pushing all the way to the end. and, you know, bringing the, the full weight of that military machine down on the pulsing and people that are there in the gaza strip of us the sound of the, if it was going to be any evasion of rough or has going to be both on the ground now if you look at the of the geography on the landscape, we're talking about the area of that boat as egypt. do you see these riders moving forward? if this thoughts, pounding, those of areas is going to be closer to the mid to both of the egyptians with the potential massive spin over. yeah, this has as the site attempt, your thoughts as lead, you know, consequences is something that is this more is looking less and less limited to the cause of straight. you know, we've had the mention of what's happening in the west bank. that's the unfolding situation on the 11 and board. and this comes with not responding over to the agent, which is the cc machines was not there and they have warned as well as any, any such spell it as a would basically operate the peace treaty between both countries. i'm what cc

davis trying to do is to try to induce a stronger response and president by the gypsies. we'll be talking to the americans and say, no, we need you to stop these, right? he's going into rafa or at least minimizing that presence because we kind of have this for the next. we kind of anything looks like we are all complicit in the ethnic cleansing of the gaza strip or the fullest migration of golf and from the southern garza into so and i put into because best buy has these people have nowhere else to go? is role when let number to know. i took all the city to the end which has been essentially reduced to rubble. i didn't well, i mean, well let them come over the border. so these 1500000 displays people on that add more desperately have more destitute than ever. but at the same time, that really, you know, clear exit strategy that for these people. and that is where the bottom ministration on egypt should stay at the movie. pressuring is ralph. okay, try and come to the conclusion that how so should we take they've just seriously with the rules that if they offensive takes place,

that could you put dies the decades old history to between these violent egypt and i would love to confidently say that yes, you could my personal feeling is but now is the time to suspend the company of a treaty? i think that it is the only thing that may consequentially put some distance between the us administration and these ratings and, and you and have the us, you to significant leverage to ensure that the homepage doesn't go ahead. sadly, i, this regime is incredibly a, generally a bunch of us to conflict. it does not want to a red skin. and i think in part the messaging over the last 5 months from the united states, even it's as late as 2 days ago when president biden insinuated the presidency. see, despite the mix up of the countries, the presidency had tech support are closed for a few monetary and aid. we know at the time that that was an issue with these rand, he's not wishing to have 8. and once it does need people out,

so they don't have confidence at this point, i would argue that if they what the presence of suspend the treaty, that the united states would actually take that seriously. having said that, egypt says rules and not a very very um, sort of logic to major need policies, decisions, especially under this leadership. and i don't see the cc regime following through as much as i do believe it is the right policy. wanted somebody to, to this point, all of a, if you look of the, of the latest diplomatic bush, it seems to be pretty much centered on this deal. but you look at the booze a big so you've got a sense that we've moved beyond the phase of a deal and we're looking for new security arrangements. so was always great. who's going to take over, guys that is going to be a new policy and leadership odyssey, you know, thought it to what kind of, what do you have is this, is this a legitimate thing to happen now, or do you think this is talking about? but as they are themselves the ultimate, they have to decide in the future. well,

certainly the palestinians will have to decide an agree because nothing will have any kind of legitimacy among the people without their consent. but i think, you know, what's, what's taking place so far in terms of discussions has largely come out of the united states to find a way for. ready word, they are kind of grasping at straws here, bring the policy and authority back. something to that, that of fact have the gulf states that use their best oil well to rebuild. but when it comes to the perspective of those states, herb states, the gulf states, they don't want to be roped into a project of, of rebuilding without some kind of passed away to a permanent piece. because then in the end and they are ripped into kind of the same trap that the pulsing and authority has in the west bank in which they are doing israel's bidding, their policing and governing on behalf of israel. while israel continues to colonize the west bank, you know, judy, eyes, jerusalem, and all these kind of things without doing any serious steps for peace. ok, so i think the goals each very wary of being complicit and what is real has done

and fitting the bill for israel's mess. girl, this guy's been fold. how so? how loudly. oh, but i find i really appreciate it. you're inside looking forward to talking to you and then if you, so thank you and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. i'm 0 dot com for further discussion. go to all the facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a j insights slowing can also join the conversation, the contacts how to handle this on a j inside starting from the hash him on by the entire team here by the if a child does not die from the bombing, he will die from the cold that no clothes, no food, nothing. no diapers was 5 and children in attends of one square metre

towards continue without having a hostages right now the specs for the governments of the country for texas on october 7th, this government failed miserably competed beyond well taken without hesitation for them died from power. they finds out, well, we live here, we make the rule, not them. they find an enemy and then they try and scrub it, people with that and the people in power, investigate explosives and questions. they use them to be of our around that one out. is there one somebody shoot somebody else dead. most people expect the police to arrive with handcuffs on that person and take them to jail. and then stand your ground. you can shoot somebody in getting your truck

and drive away. is that unusual? that is very unusual because we're talking about the crime of murder, but it's a very clear in the statute. they don't want anybody arrested. that's why it's a get out of jail free card. it's time you pull the trigger. what do you think the shooter wasn't arrested? because of the law? i feel like she's hiding behind the stand your ground. the injustice for me is the driving force of why i do this to show people what it's like to live in places where injustice isn't something you read in. the news is something that happens to every single day, whether it's a war, natural disaster, whether it's political corruption, making sure that they understand. and this simple language is absolutely crucial. the cities already 50 percent evacuated, most of those people actually left in the early days of the world. i couldn't do

this job without the best cumberland, best produces the best pictures and those other people to ireland in order to be able to get that message out to the world. the investigating the use and abuse of power across the globe. now to sierra the these riley metric continues to show loss of the hospital in southern gaza. hundreds of patients and the stuff are trapped inside the ponds. that means a them, this is i'll just say are alive from dell hall. so coming up growing international pressure on israel to health,

it's flying ground defensive on rough off of thousands that remain desperate for food and aid pro. so be on. so claims fixed.