as babies are, there isn't the central bank for boards suggest the pressure in young people to compete is to blame. it has come reports from so touchy hay is a mother to quadruplets. she's on extended leave from her career in nuclear power plants to raise her toddlers with the help of her mother. while her husband is working overseas. and they, they really need, i'm done and i've used the babysitter before because there's 4 of them. i hired to a $2700.00 each. so we spent $5400.00 per month on babysitters alone. what family can spend that kind of money to raise children to the child and her husband decided to try for a baby after he moved to a company with generous child care benefit to the the biggest plus in my job. so which was the culture of the company? they consider my participation in family affairs, both as an invitation, but it's something completely natural. such, workplace culture is rare in

a country infamous for fostering workaholics. in fact, government data shows only 6 percent of fathers employed by large companies and 2.3 percent of fathers in small to medium sized businesses, use their paternity leave. in 2021 been used parents and they much lower compared to woman. but the thing is that we shouldn't blame men for not trying to use this benefit because there's lot of empirical evidence that if menus parents and they've compared to woman, they experience greater penalty. for years, the government has invested hundreds of billions of dollars to try to reverse the de population trend, including $750.00 monthly parent pay for couples with newborns. but with little success, a reset, the central bank report, found that a root cause of south korea's ultra low birth rate was the competitive pressure, young people face, and all aspects of life. including anxieties linked to employment, housing and health care. the bank suggest using competition by encouraging the use

of parental leave programs providing more incentives for people to relocate out of the capital region or half the population lives and increasing the number and quality of jobs for young people. all tall challenges in a swiftly green country with a number of koreans and they're a seventy's, exceeds those in their twenty's units. kim alda 0, so the font is next to an order 0. and then don't forget the website, of course all the 0 dot com for news and sports. i'm not us and stay with us on the the, the is really military bags. the show legally is randy settlements and the all key point westbank the red lines, bulk the borders of the item. you describe just new security. so we're now in the

area, i think you're just saw on those maps. they're all illegal is ready. settlers living just a few 100 meters from, hey, in caravans, in that direction. and they, all me says that it's a necessity in order to expand a so called securities around illegal is way the central suddenly is way the soldiers appear on the old pacific bank. they approach forcing us to stop filming, detained us for more than 2 hours on these confiscation of land around in the galleries rate, the settlements charlotte stadium say he's full proof of israel breaking in some national as the war and ukraine enters its 3rd year civilian death toll continues to mount in large areas of the country have been ravaged by war. so what is the future of ukraine, and will the war spill over into neighboring countries?

that's our discussion this week. and it upfront special the 2 years on from russia's full scale invasion of ukraine fears or mounting that the conflict may become another endless war. the hostilities thus far have led to more than $10000.00 civilian debts and left massive destruction in its wake. militarily, the situation on the ground is difficult to assess, but last week, russia scored an important victory when it captured eastern ukrainian city of this got. so what will happen now are peace negotiations even possible? what lies ahead for your brain in, in russian leadership, good is to be the best today are less you have bus and then go ukrainian member of parliament and human rights lawyer. billy it might be of a political scientist currently at u. c. berkeley. and aaron, match a journalist and host of the push back on the grades. i wanna thank you all for joining me on upfront. let's see, i'm going to start with you band been conflicting narratives as to which country is succeeding in this war. russian president vladimir putin has said that russian

defeat is impossible, while ukrainian president of vladimir zalinski previously said, we know russia will lose. so what's the truth here in your view? what do you, what do you think things stand at the moment? a brain is fighting for his existence. this has been the case since day one, which was back on the 20th february 2014 on russia sauce attached to kramer, nomics premiere and ukraine is fighting against russia's military aggression, aggression being an international crime. the whole world is standing behind you, praying since 2014 and especially off to the escalation of that's a fraction of 2022, to push back from russia to push back on the very top of the aggressive spreading of autographs. and this is, this is the assessment of the situation and what is possible or impossible and what

should and shouldn't happen. this is a full for the global community to judge, and i think it's up to you, crane and all those uh, partner and spending time to print to judge. and at the moment everything is the only thing possible. this being done to make sure that there is no victory for russia, and that there is a collection victory for the open air and, and into this conversation aaron, i mean, what do you make of that? i mean, uh, let's see. it was taking a pretty clear cut moral and political picture here. she's saying there's a, there's an active aggression at the legal, in the global community knows the right side of the issue here. what do you say? i have a different take on how this war began. and it's important understand how it began, because that was the key to how this war and 10 years ago i agree, this war began, but i think it began and much different terms. 10 years ago there was a cooling ukraine, there was a democratically elected president, got a call, which he was overthrown. he was corrupt. there were many people protesting him, but the fact was, he was democratically elected. he was over throwing the leaders of the crew. were

members of far right groups, including right sector and so about who the european parliament when you earlier had condemned for anti semitic xena. phobic views they receive top cabinet posts any and to include government, the us plan and really dangerous of all. by backing this cool, victoria, new in the top us official was caught on tape podding who would be the next leader of ukraine. that the new co government then wage the salts on the ethnic russians of eastern ukraine. one of the 1st movies was to try to ban the russian language. in response, you've had eastern ukrainian prize up and yes, rush. i did see, i'm sorry, rush on a 2nd. i didn't mean interrupt you. i didn't interrupt one second. let's say we'll uh, we'll bring it back and i'll give you a chance to respond russian. russia to cheese crime yet, which by the way, a lot of the population didn't support joining russia is ukraine officials admitted at the time, there was a peace process. there was something called the mentor to a court. the basic bargain was that ukraine was gonna recognize the autonomy of eastern ukraine, and the fighting would stop ukraine under the pressure of

a same far right nationalist or a trophic who refused implement minutes, which led to ultimately rush out deciding to invade. i don't support rush as invasion, but you have to recognize that from the start there were opportunities to avoid that invasion by respecting the municipal court afterwards. there was a peace deal reached in turkey in april 2022 weeks into the war. we all know this from multiple officials, nato officials, ukraine officials, there was a deal rich between new crane and russia. but forrest johnson, the permanent w. k, stepped in and said to ukraine, we're not going to back you up. if you make a peace deal with russia, you should keep fighting. and that i think is has let us to where we are today. let's you i'm sorry, but the amount of um, just twisted, fax and basic incorrect information was absolutely incredible. so 1st of all, let's go back to the 201420134 that matter. what was happening in the crate. and what was happening in the frame that the time was that the people of ukraine came

out. it's not just them kids, but across all of you print to protest, you can call, which is regime on his head and putting down the foot on a democratic process that was unrolling in the country. and you trans choice to become a to come on the past to the exception to the easy. and that's when the call, which was you, was often and where the general, for which fleet he went to russia, where he is now welcomed by the function and all of his ability to cover today. you can still have a democratically elected part of a democratically elected president who the population supports. i'm also a government which is functioning. and in the years off to, to my don revolution of dignity, an officer, russia has amex illegally amex crimea. there was no referendum. none of that. if

you are calling a referendum a, an inquiry was where a lot of the people were held the gun point. that's not the referendum. i'm sorry. and officer russian has a legally or 2 fights, and this can be reached of the people we pray are still absolutely united in bringing territorial integrity back to you on a so just another correction, the minister, of course, the sole goldman scott ports were made under a force and any agreements made under force or even threat them use of force is deemed now i'm void and then these are basic international law for you. i security . and then they want to jump in. i gotta move others we want to cover a lot of ground. i make sure both human just jump back into the conversation. let me go to you for a minute. because over the weekend, our russian forces took over the eastern ukrainian city of a difficult, which has shifted the front line. and some say,

it's given russia the upper hand at the moment. but what do you make of these recent developments? i think there was a tech to go victory, but there is no chance of russian victories strategically because you green's military potential and the will to resist these invasion is so strong. that's the real breakthrough on the front line isn't possible. so 5 div, correct is one small. so in the front line, is it thousands get one with us else? look at the list of boards to make about add ons, speech, but i guess i don't have the time. i will just us one simple question again and. ready elected president become a dictator, and another question is going to people rise up a used uh, educator, let's say a yellow jenkins and friends have this demonstration. and then my court decides to show 100 demonstrators. what do you think is going to happen in this scenario?

i mean, you got this demonstration, it was a dispersed with the use of force and people with shots, people. but you do think the people for us are going to just stand by this and say, how about to you but use our elected president? you know, we should, we should, looks like you raise up against you. so in this sense, my don. ready was not it was, it was a revolution and the response to that uprising in violation of every possible agreement with the next grade year in violation of 19 i'm glad when i went there in an interview with former fox news host tucker carlson. let him know that he was willing to discuss a peace agreement to in the war, but russia has shown no indication that it will renounce any territories that were in x during the conflict. he previously told key that new port territorial realities have to be taken into account if that is the case. can

you see negotiations being even possible? i. i definitely see negotiation as possible. i don't see the results in anything that's a different thing. i mean, certainly rustic and have freak negotiations sending the 3rd year for the people to negotiate like deeds in march, to 1022. but this is not important to put, you know, he's not going to negotiate and he's in his mind. it just you, possible to inflict and leisure military defeats on your credit. and this is case altima. the goal ends the tool to achieve this goal here triggered what's, what does that mean to turn the, is it also possible, really i'm gonna bring you into and that he does what a peace agreement. it's just the, it's just the relinquishment of annex territory. so we won't be part of the state agreement. is there any way? very sincere button agreement, but simply holding his ground on, pardon me, you know, it's not about right near it wouldn't take his own words. now it's about the whole

won't get to the words territories that will help you, but it's up to 2022. and secondly, i see 0 instigation, which in this years to stop the war, even with the steps, basically stealing almost 20 percent or for you bring on that. so i, i see no indication that which is good. so stare, there are, what do you make of it? when you make of that assessment, he said, look, this is an empty rhetoric. you can't have a peace agreement period if you have no one if you have a doctor and or the commitment to permanent war. but also you can't have a legitimate piece agreement. if fundamentally you're unwilling to relinquish, not just crime here, but any of the land it's been that's been annex enable and that's gonna take. well, i agree with the point that putting in now is not going to give up the territory and not just crimea, other parts of it, 20 percent of the new crime that russia has taken. but we have to look at how that is come to be. and my fundamental point is that in april 2022, you would a piece deal or wasting

a stumble between russia and ukraine. a topic printing diplomat. it was part of the delegation recently said, quote, who did everything possible to make peace that had to do crimes. delegation was a member of the credit, and parliament said that we could have ended the war, had we just declared neutrality. that was russia's demand back. that russian was ready to withdraw with pre invasion lines. but what happened, boris johnson came over and told ukraine, sorry, we're not going to offer you the security guarantees and you need for a peace deal with russia. that was an order basically from ukraine's western sponsors to keep fighting. and ukraine unfortunately obeyed. so yes, right now rushes terms would be a lot more harsh. we have to understand. that's as far as you'd agree, that there are no reasonable. well, they're just sure sure. listen, i would love it if russia didn't take the creative territory, but that's a reality now. and the point is for ukraine, the question is, do you want to kill? what do you do when you say it's a reality? i mean, almost the ukraine could have kept all of its territory. had it been i, i get you the boy, i guess my question is, what's, what's the value of pointing to saying this could have been different. at this

moment, you're conceding that there is no legal annexation. you're acknowledging that this is wrong. why not have the critique of the russian annexation of land and the illegal occupation of land rather than say, this could have been avoided diplomatically or since usually wrote in the case of crimea. again, yes, you will have to trust the referendum that was held under russian control, but according to us, government funded pulse of crimea. a majority of the population wants to be a part of russia. that's a factor multiple polls showing that that's not rushing profit data. and the is the anthem, it's just, i'm sorry, i didn't know if you're on deck. leslie, i'm probably gonna bring it in. so you can respond to this in eastern ukraine. i don't know what the popular sentiment is that i would propose a referendums. i said some people have talked about to see, you know, who wants to be with you, but what i'm saying is, you print could have kept all the territory ahead of respect to the medical chords, which contrary to what was said before, was not legitimate. it was endorsed by the web security council. it was reached by the cranium government. when you claim tried to implement some of the provisions there were protests led by alternation was outside the parliament saying no to know

to capitulation, police officers were killed because you have unfortunately in ukraine. a contingent of altering nationalists who don't st. eastern new premium to identify with russia as equal and that's why they've been condemned. and there's even in us congressional ban on funding. an army as off battalion, which is a neo nazi brigade incorporated into, i mean, created military and one point on 2014. the best source for whether or not this was a popular revolution, i think is ukrainian public opinion. and you can read from polls back then in the key post in the washington post that the country was divided, but half the country supported the protest, half the country didn't. and in that situation, when you try to force inquiring into one camp, into cutting off all its ties to rush out when you have millions of people who identify as the russian who want to have ties with russia, it's suicide and helps explain why we're in that as, as i went today, but let's your last april, russian did offer a piece deal that was rejected by ukraine on the ground. it said that moscow could

not be trusted to him. hold it, however, deleted their cleaning and delegation to the negotiations. did spell out one of the requisite rest restrooms, asking for thing quote, they were prepared to end the war if we agreed to as finland once did neutrality and committed that we would not join nato, what ukraine consider not joining nato to region in to the war. over 80 percent of the population we bring today supports. 5 grand joining the to this is a result of russian aggression against ukraine because we want security guarantees . and we need real security guards because again, you know, going back into history. russia was supposed to be a guarantee on the prince's security off to you print the nuclear weapons. # back in 1996, the prussia wants to come to that actually ended up amazing. also as he wants to go into history as i run on dollars, this is important in 1991. when you pray, we're going to send defendants from the soviet union from russia. russia was the

country that accepted the ukraine, is an integral independent country with crania, as you can start, was done. yes, because you can start from mohammed doesn't print surgery and all the of the therapies which rush up to date, quote, effective control over was, it's new, it's russia accepted. it signed off on it and then reached it's very work on this very legal responsibilities. so what are we talking about now? what kinds of negotiations negotiations to a fees, a terrorist, autocratic review that's and skewing ukrainians by the day or the, the duration of the last 10 years. and where do you want to come with this negotiation? what get off the premium line, give up the rights to the people, all the people who are living on that line to be bringing in to speak to you printing your language as they want to speak it and pull it in. and let me ask them

once, which do speak ukrainian, by the way, to when people there want to associate themselves with the phrase i live under the printing and stuff, but they cannot because that is a danger to their lives. because showing any affiliation was you print today in burnett school, hans means that you are taking to prison to torture county. i'm sorry. what kind of negotiations are we talking about on what kind of a peaceful russia and regime is eric trying to plan for the organs area. you claim is the same billions of dollars in europe and united states in the form of military assistance and other a and u. s. as in the process of trying to improve another $61000000000.00 in support to the country. so someone voiced the concern about this approach, helping to prolong the war. one us senator call ukraine, quote, america's new animal is more and warned that the united states, as quote heading down the same path that mired us in middle eastern conflicts for

over 2 decades. what do you make of that, that funding and crating to this extent and this, and this approach to funding only allows ukraine to keep them. we're going i see, i see this as the logical because you brings you've not stopped these war. and what loosely the biggest obstacles abuse is what you're fortunate and haven't decrypted . so is the institution with those american uh, military supports the world store because what you would just simply stop it taking you great. so this is not codes going to go. it's not like you for the gas stoves supplying your brain with weapons, then suddenly decides to stoke is invasion because, oh no, they don't get the weapons. you know, i'm not going to take your brain anymore because before 2022, a supplies of weapons through brain or the social diesel beads were meaning mo, uh,

in contradiction to what the tribune is seeing at the moment. and we don't, these weapons, the water will be prolonged because butcher is going to push until she can inflict the strategic defeat because he is ultimately cool in does what is to defeats you great details of what you need to win or lose. so for what do you mean the bluetooth is important to him? i think it's the logical proposition. so stopping the supplies of wherever the force in that same vein, here is it, and you're saying that you're saying that point one would continue to prosecute this war. some have even argued it might prompt him to expand his imperial ambitions in november of last year. russian foreign minister surveyed that wrong, insinuated, bet now though, that might take a similar path to ukraine. think about it though, but is destined to fall to the next victim in the west unleashed hybrid war against russia. i mean, it's not that far fetched mir and i'm going to, i got,

i want to get your take on this to, i mean, they've occupied parts of georgia and, oh, wait annex premier, it pardon me in 2014. and is a full on invasion of ukraine in 2020 to one could argue you don't need a crystal ball for this. this is, this is inevitable. and, you know, they're just very shortly. that's in the beginning of the work. there was an official statements by some russian junior rule that the goal is to make a land score either to model because part of my door goal does needs to be a. ready russian troops and so the idea was to one goes, so then you bring and to wonder ideas. and so make avoided the, you know, to does needs to do what do you bring in standard 3. so. ready taking my goal is definitely possible in this scenario. and so it was almost denounced by russian. so they didn't go as far as actually seeing that they're going to exact model. but they said that the goal is to make this quarter door of dignity at the trash rules

from the actual russian standards redo the data to the i'll do it to what kinds of these do. so it is not finished and you do certainly ensure that the view this comes down to whether you're seeing russia is acting as a fundamentally aggressive expansion has power or whether it has legitimate security concerns. georgia, 2008. that happened because george attacked the russian allies 1st. russia that intervene. unfortunately, george, i think got betrayed by dick cheney, which encourage them to watch that operation and made, gave them the impression that the us would have george's back again 2014. we've already gone over the history, there was a crew that happened whether you like in a corporate or not. he was over throat crimea, historically, is part of the russian sphere in house for us as most important naval base. there was no way russia was gonna let crimea fall into the hands of the government knows no talking about joining nato, which by the way was previously outlawed on the funding constitution. if roger was expansion his wife and to take donuts in the honda in 2014, when the leaders and the brakes were republics, were begging to be

a part of russia. russia said, no, let's do the math. i don't know where it goes. i mean, every, the imperial power that has occupied later and explained, i always say there's a security concern. the only thing is a strategic military purpose. they, they never just say, hey, we're being, you know, warmongers and everything is taken out. there's always a good question. and it's a legitimate or not the part the question was, do you think i should take you more? do i do? i see them expanding to go off after nato countries? absolutely not. that would be suicide. or that would be inviting more with native world war 3. they are in ukraine because of ukraine's significance to russia. william burns was a current director of the ca. he bought a cable in 2008 warning that ukraine for russia. it was a red line across the spectrum, whether it's put in or his liberal critics, because of ukraine's historical significance to russia, including having people inside your brain, millions and who are a family in russia to identify as ethnic russian. and that's why it was always crazy to try the dry ukraine into one camp. why not let it be neutral?

respect that you have people in ukraine who hate russia fair enough to do people in ukraine also want to be a part of russia. so the projects on the 2014 has been to integrate ukraine into the u. s. light order. and that's when catastrophic. let's say i wanna renew is i want to respond to aaron, but also this fundamental question of, do you see russia expanding even further and continued this sort of pattern that we've seen since 2008? yes, russia will expand once given the chance. and if nobody find spots, if you praise stops, twice and back, russia will expand. and what will happen is that you will have russian missiles directed at a number of western capitals located that you praise the fall most west and borders which will lead on for me and will be reachable within 2 hours. if this is something that you want for the worst ones, i'm pretty sure that the answer is no. and this is why there's also role of support for you right and drove off and i'll just come to the nation by pointing back

towards rush on something that i want to get straight. iron has implied so many times that's deep writing is almost like the profits of either the us or the that the piece you praying is an independent country. fighting for its very existence. it says not to be any foreigners coming from any other country, but the people of ukraine, r o b, that heart their wish to preserve that holes protects their families and to re gain control of our own land. and this is what has happened, and we are grateful to every single country that is spending the find us with military support financially few, military, ne, i'm any other support from how that can be provided to make sure that the process of russian and rushes or to practical on the porch and on the under a whole bunch of other publications does not spread floods up then rushes borders and we're trying to push them back and making any kind of negotiations and peace

with russia without actually having security guarantees from a number of countries is impossible and will never be possible. i think this is where i'd like to to these things and make things clear and just discuss. all right, that's all we have time for, unless you alia aaron. thank you all for joining. i'm sure. all right, everyone, that is our show upfront. we'll be back the a wild animal tone from its habitat to satisfy the illegal one's life trade loses its survival skills such re discovering them as possible with the little house. a park ranger facing retirements grapples with the prospect free of simulating himself to city life. monkey man,

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