the one of the 8 generals who protect the items from evil spirits, highlight when he was attacked online from the looking time when these he was quick to find back. it's a good thing. oh, what's the kevin? what's it, i mean, you didn't clock it. i you see that one down i'm go, what's the jack on it that one of kevin's huff tie when he's an huff, paraguayan although he grew up in brazil, he was raised speaking, taiwanese, nope, mentor. we have people from a lot of different places coming to taiwan. you know, and especially the aboriginal preparation here, if you were to say of the traditional or did classic counties feature, the aboriginals didn't really have the counties teachers in downtown type. hey, a new generation was pew autonomy is the mainland china put them. china is a thread, no, none says to home and it represents values that keen to disavow it is not only for we are so we are not. we are not that we don't share the same kind of lifestyle,

political aspiration of the governance. our connection to the world. i think these are different ways to think about this new tie. one these identity to that new identity is a sensitive issue in taiwan. last february, protest, a storm to commemorate sion of the 1947 massacre or the nationalist government at the time. the speaker mayor of type paying the pull to great grandson of chiang kai shek. the chinese president blamed for the mexico as the to to a memorial serves as a very visible reminds it's a time not long ago, when the chinese government hunted down in prisons and killed thousands of people. he'd been living on taiwan for centuries, toys this time when he is culture event, the preserving their identity through language tied to the dialect unique feeling.

the language is the culture as roots root of the culture and the language side, the end of culture with dice, and the means the whole group identity group of di previously banished from schools and public life tied g is undergoing a revival is a new generation of time when these find a voice that suits the distinct type density. tony chang elgin's here, type pain. and of course you can follow that story and all that we're covering here . what else is there? if i look to 12 website developed as of adult comments updates, it's not today we'll continue to monitor the promise of us e sign in gaza. in the coming hours, we shall see what happens and that will be with tom mccrae in the. i'll just say era news, you're watching officer with me. so robin, let's be time to complete the what constitute extend? so we can talk to

a see i want you to start with just the fence right as to what happened this independent. we want peace. we want the education, my wants to be the we don't have lead them in different countries policy and it's going to get 50 percent representation and accountability and benefit knowing that was a service at this point. but then you're saying you don't have your reports with it . i should just trust that unity austin is 5 times the crew that used to produce outstanding gentleness. and i'll just see her integrity in the seats of hi. i'm steve clements and i have a question. hospital by hospital. israel has been annihilating guys. his entire medical system, but what happens when it's all gone? let's get to the bottom line. it's probably more accurate to come. busy to health care apocalypse and

a health care crisis. a few months ago, it was shocking to hear that palestinian doctors had to perform operations without anesthesia because israel was balking supplies or watches, so many thousands of people were being killed and injured every week. and patients were flooding floors in the hallways across causes hospital, thousands of people such sheltering your hospitals because they're supposed to be safe, even in what time. right. well think again, why the hospital after another has been surrounded by is really tanks bombed, rated, destroyed. nowadays, the entire health care system in the gaza strip is on the verge of collapse. and more than 600 doctors and health care workers had been killed by israel in the last 5 months. and malnutrition and disease are spreading due to the choke, hold on, just about anything getting in. and the word shows no signs of stopping soon with hundreds more palestinians killed and wounded daily. so what's gonna happen when causes health care system totally collapses? today we're talking with dr. fire off my global health director for the department

of emergency medicine, an advocate christ medical center in chicago, and also in chicago. dr. moore, i am getting a human apologist on colleges who co founded the palestinian american medical association. thanks to you both for joining us. this is a complicated, a sobering topic. doctor ok mad you just as i understand it, spent 3 weeks in nasir hospital in con eunice. and i'd like is best you can. you've written about this in the chicago tribune, but i'd like you to give a feel for what is happening there. that is often not seen on tv, not disgusting, shows like this, but what is the real life situation of god since right now in hospitals, in, in, under attack? yeah, thank you for having us, steve. this is an important topics i do want to mention, especially with what's going on most of hospital now that people need to be aware that most of the hospital was the last remaining trauma hospital in the gaza strip . um, it was a hospital that prior to the war was,

could accommodate around 350 patients. and after the war it had well over a 100 patients. and with that in mind, there are over 10000 people that were sheltering in and around the hospital. so when you walk through the emergency department and you are moving through the different parts of the hospital, you see people everywhere, you see children and their families that are sheltering in the hospital in every corner and in the hallways. and so it really is an overwhelming scene on top of that can units for the last 6 weeks culminating, and the reading of uh, of, and most of hospital was the center of his ran the military operations. and so there was an incredible amount of destruction and death that was taking place in san eunice that was already overwhelming the hospital system prior to it being surrounded prior to it being rated prior to over 70 members of its staff being abducted. and many of them being injured in the process, i will share this with you. i mean, we would see so many different injuries, shrapnel injuries, people who are stuck beneath the rubble after their home had been bombed or who are

victims of drone attacks. but this really kind of solidifies what we're talking about when we feel like the health care system is under attack. there is a surgeon, his name is dr. charlotte, he's the last remaining surgeon at north have hospital. he's still very, are now despite the hospital being rendered inoperable. you have to realize that the military does ran. the military has cut off the electricity to the hospital. there is no water in the hospital. it's functionally just a building. it's no longer a hospital. but doctor kind of shared with us that over the last week while the hospital was surround it and people are being told that they need to leave. and despite being told that they should leave being shot in the process as, as they were trying to leave the hospital perimeter. he said in the 4th floor where the operating operating room and theater is. one of his nurses was shot in the chest and he had to perform the surgery on that nurse. you know, a health care provider can easily become a patient or the victim of this war. but they're really kind of solidify that, i think. so people can truly understand what's taking place here. i think people in

guys meet the false assumption that hospitals would be the sanctuary place that they would could be protected and be safe there in time and time again. they've been proven wrong and these places have come up to the to well let me ask you a question. you know, what's, what's been floated in a lot of the media in press. is that the infrastructure, the civil infrastructure in gaza is essentially has been infiltrated, controlled tunnels built beneath by hamas that hamas is inter go in integrated into those healthcare facilities when you were there and you were operating in those 3 weeks is as, as a doctor, performing did you have any sense at all that how mosse was weaving in and out of that final last hospital in gaza? is there accuracy to those claims? it's uh, in fact i noticed the opposite. i saw tons of women and children. i saw pregnant women. i saw kids playing rings around the rosy in the pediatric division of and us at hospital. nothing that i saw suggested anything like that. in fact, we saw horrible stories of families losing loved ones in their homes being

destroyed. and i'm looking for tense in an already crowded area and thinking about having to go further south that off. and i know uh dr. moore, i used to, i know very well has been took as that as well. and i'm sure that he can tell you the same thing that there is a decent amount of people in the guys who are looking for help or rely on help. and you know this, this sort of narrative. i think it's, uh, i think it's not something that spells out you don't really necessarily see it accurately on the ground. that's the case. and at if you are the founder, you help run the palestinian american medical association. tell us about the medical association and supplies and how you're trying to essentially envelope this crisis with aiden support for the people. you know, 1st of all, thank you for having us both set that and myself. we're happy to be here and you know what the posting in american medical association was founded in 2013. and we've been operating in regards to that in the west bank for the last 10 years.

with mainly focusing on rebuilding the health care system in the west bank and the guys including, you know, providing medical supplies. and we just actually built an intervention to rebuild unit, to serve the whole population on the issue for hospitals that just became functional in july of last year. it took a little bit of difficulty and challenges even before the october 7th started. and that's important. you know, to ship the light on when we talk about the health care system and that's it for 17 years old blockage because it has been under extreme conditions. and people have been suffering of lack of resources by all means. you know, you talk about, you know, the bottom line of, you know, what's happening is that the, you know, 1st of all, we know that the majority of hosp because have been destroyed out of maybe 35 hospitals that serve best value over 31. have been destroyed suited clinics, and in terms of outpatient clinics and outpatient services. that being destroyed, you're talking about hundreds of thousands of chronic condition patients who are

unable to get medical care. we're talking about, you know, thousands of women who are, who are pregnant and able to get the kid until the end and so forth. and i mean, you know, that of course understands. are there, you know, having said that we have also, you know, as mission scheduled to go to in march and we're bringing time to bring more and more people of critically needed supplies and critically needed specialties. we have over 1500 volunteered healthcare professionals in the united states towards the who's are signed up with the policy and american medical association and ready to is all. hopefully we can bring them as fast as we can. and as much as we can do to, to bring healing and hope to the promising and people. the other thing that i think is important to mention, i think, uh, you know, the doctor might have knows this very well. we're both a part of organizations trying to bring people in. we've been trying to get people in since the end since the started. and it wasn't until january,

we were able to start getting these delegations, and i mean, we wanted people to be able to get in, get on the ground, see what's taking place and come back and be able to share what's happening. because as i'm sure you're aware of steve, i mean nobody's getting into to the gaza strip, but i was gonna, i was gonna ask you, i mean, i just simply wanted to ask you how you got in. how did you get in? how did you get in? how did you get out what, what does that process like? and just one other question, you know, it's so impressive to hear about the number of people who want to go in support. but what are the ethics of that as well? i mean, this is a war zone. so many people over 600 healthcare workers, doctors, nurses, and others have been killed. i mean, i'm just interested in that dynamic, which obviously has to be stressful for you and, and for them. yeah, i mean, you know, the w h o i think uh when you talk about how the security situation is so unstable, the w h o is forming these emergency medical teens and they're looking at n g o is like met global and pama to provide the volunteers because you can't just

send somebody to, to a guys that you because you're not going to be able to sit, to ensure their safety or their security. you just mentioned how many people have been killed from the health care world. but everything, i mean journalist, we're talking about un agency workers. i mean all of these people are at risk. nobody is safe and gaza and everybody acknowledges this. so the w h o decided that they would take on volunteers and they would help coordinate the entry for people to get into the gaza strip and get out of it as a strip. and i'll tell you what, you know, be getting in through the w h o, it was great. it's a, it's, it's nice to have a big you, an agency being able to help you get through that border. but it is absolutely a difficult situation on the ground and i remember being at and also hospital and feeling like the f 35 was going to land on top of the hospital. every bomb that was striking in the parts of can eunice, the hospital building would shake. we had the emergency department window break while it was there, from the shrapnel that was flying through. so you know, no one is spirit and no area is safe. but i think, and i, i think you know, uh dr. moore,

you can definitely talk about this. but the reason you get so many volunteers is because people have been watching these events unfold for the last 4 and a half months. they have felt like they want to do something they felt like the entire world has let the people have guys a down and it was time for us to work with our hands and get in there. and i think, you know, i think dr. mike, can definitely speak to how people are feeling here to the diet, in terms of the palestinian diaspora. right. let me ask you a question. i don't ask this slightly. yeah. it's, it's a, it's one of those questions that i, i, uh, i hesitate to ask honestly, but you know, is real, this really miller, teresa is it is at war with, from us. do you feel that is real? is it work with just how much is israel at war with something larger? is the number to speak the tools, you know when you talk about the hosp, because the number of hospitals that are being destroyed and like i said dirty are 31 in hospice of 35 primary candle, outpatient facility 125 health care facility is targeted and damaged 124 ambulance

is 340 medical personnel is between, you know, those water killed, those who have been detained by his radio thursdays. and it's hard to believe that this is only targeted, you know, against a specific uh, a group of people and palestine. i mean, in addition, we all know the number of children that have been killed and the number of women that have been also then we also know the suffering of all those patients with the chronic conditions. so it's very hard to believe that this is, you know, award against a specific group of people in palestine and you know, the suffering the, extends beyond a specific group. and we know it's touching the life of liberty, palestinian, both in the west bank and gaza. from our standpoint, it has people in the medical field. and what we try to do is try to focus on the humanitarian aspect of this and provide the object they needed medical supplies that human being, deserves with these conditions and beyond who is stopping a getting in. what is the geo political reality that that is stopping

the aid from getting in from your perspective, both having been on the ground, but also someone organizing externally significant support resources and, and, and human personnel to get in doctor keeps on it. yeah. you know, in the united states here, from the beginning of the crisis, we started the medical supply campaign. we have a warehouse here in chicago, and we were able to collect, you know, 2 containers worth of equipment. maybe the worth of hundreds of thousands of dollars, medical supplies mostly dispose of the medical supplies. and we also had another warehouse in kansas. we would like to be able to ship one can seen or so far as what we have here. and again, it's old because of the extreme complexity of the logistics of lot who is that receiving and where are the supplies going to go? and it does not like you said it is what it does, not peasy. that's again talking about what we can bring from the united states to

the people who needed the most and goods that to the hospitals. now, speaking also in egypt, we wouldn't be able through, you know, collaboration with other organizations to bring some, you know, basic food supplies or tends to host the people who are displays. right? and again, the flow is very limited and the procedure is very complex through bringing stuff through the border. so i think the part of intake, which is that i thought border, you know, 1st of all the 1st of all it is control, you know, by is gibson government. and 2nd of all, it is controlled by that. how much or how, what is the capacity of the border that can bring in? and that, of course, you have to go through with the procedure of inspecting and making sure you know what is being brought right? is, you know, mean, so it is a very complex process and the same thing applies actually to bringing you medical teams. it's a very complex process. requires a lot of work and preparation. when we did a show recently, we had a show recently with folks who were very knowledge about and run in under

a situation providing support and that that roster area of the population as well as from 300000 people to one and a half 1000000. now, so that the scale of need in volume, but dr. off, but i would like to get your sense of what you think from your experience is impeding the delivery of the supplies that so many say they're trying to give find this is that like who's getting in the way? yeah, i mean look before october 7th, we know 500 trucks of 8 or is getting into the guys a strip every single day. after october 7th, we know that number went down to 0 and now we're at a plateau or between 80 and a 100 trucks entering every single day. why are we not at 500? where's the bottom mac? and if you ask the people that are all involved in this process, they're all blaming each other. and my conclusion is that everybody is to blame the chips and government to the israeli government. the united states government there needs to be the will to bring in more aid. and if you talk to the heads of these

n g o's underground, they're saying we need around a 1000 trucks a day. keep in mind since october 7th, not a no fuel has entered into the gaza strip. and i can tell you that why that's a public health disaster. we need the fuel, the power, the generators to keep the light finding the hospital. so what's happening at the junction border and buffer is no short of people, not having the motivation to increase the abs entering into the gaza strip. why? that's the case. i don't have an answer because we're dealing with the worst humanitarian crisis since world war 2. and i'll tell you something as well just because there are trucks getting in, there are still severe restrictions. i'll give you one example. when i was there and most of hospital there was a young man who's john had been shattered after he was hit by a drone, his draw had been shattered. it's very simple to fix this. actually, you just need a metal plate. you put it in the job, he'll, he'll, he'll do bit, he'll do fine. he had to sit there with his shadow job, unable to drink any water, any food, because no metal medical parts are allowed to enter through this border. now is

that reality doesn't change. you can bring in a 1000 trucks, but if you're still restricting the items on those trucks, we're still going to be dealing with a very desperate situation that talked about what would you tell doctors who wants to volunteer or nurses, or other health care professionals who want to go to god. so what council would you give them? i mean i think it's important to talk to our colleagues on the ground there and figure out what they need. that's hard because telecommunications, it's so often blacked out while i was there, there was a telecommunications back out of 8 days. so physicians going to communicate with each other, hospitals couldn't communicate with each other. so it was a major issue. but it's important to figure out how we can support the local health care workers who have been working nonstop since the beginning of this war, who are not being paid while working. 24 hour shift. what do they need? they are incredible clinicians. i'm telling you, steve, these are some of the best doctors i've ever been around. i mean, they are just so amazing. they don't, they're doing a lot with a little. how can we help them? what can we do? and then when you come back, if you're able to make it out of guys,

okay. once you come back, your job doesn't stop. that's when it becomes even more important. you need to start advocating for their relief for their protection, for humanitarian aid entry. and most importantly, we need a ceasefire now, i mean, it doesn't matter how much age you're bringing in. if they're still f $35.00, spying over the skies of the gaza strip. we're still going to be in trouble. we're not going to be able to stop the bleeding. why? when you see hospitals, when you see doctors without borders targeted, it's just what does it say. you need a game. it sees that the risk of, of going or being and look as a is a huge and it says that no one is safe. and what does that this bruton war is not paid in any life, no matter who you are. and no matter what you do, even if you are a doctor, even if you are charged, even if you are american, no matter who you are and what you are doing and guys that you are a potential target and the risk is there. everything said that, you know, we have a, an extensive process for the physicians who volunteer in terms of, you know,

making sure they understand the risks involved. we also have these aster training courses that they have to take before they go. we have to make sure they get the vaccines that they need and they understand the complexity of the situation there. and we have to check on them on a daily basis. you know, having said that, i have to tell you from my private experience, visit being and because in 2022 and from what i hear from the people who go there, you know, the people in the hospital, the doctors, even the, you know, the, the, the regular people who are stationed at the hospital, they wouldn't do the best they can do to protect the doctors and to protect the physician. so we'll go there, they would put their lives because they understand and appreciate that what, what is being done for somebody to volunteer and to decide to go to guys a doing this condition. it always speaks of there's some flexibility there isn't. that is appreciated by the people of guys a, an ever human, the darian organization in the world. and we won't continue to do this for as much

as we can. well, let me just ask you about the eco, the point, sorry, i just wanted to say like, the, when you go there and you're speaking to these physicians and you're letting them know you came from the states. it's also a signal that despite whatever the policies may be, that there are people who aren't standing in solidarity, you will understand and they want you to support you in whatever way you can. so the one thing that i want to bring up a point that you brought up is in regards to the military is claiming there at war with somebody or whatever it's taking place. and i think doctor might have made a strong point that the numbers speak for themselves. i mean, when you talk about 70 percent of the civilian infrastructure is destroyed, more than half of the hospitals are totally non functional. they've been damaged. the universities have been destroyed. the only medical school campus has been destroyed. you can say you're at war with anybody that you want to say. but when you look at the fact that the ground doing a good job at what your objective is, it's not working out very well. and there's an incredible amount of human suffering and loss that's taking place. and so, you know, i think that, you know, making that point about, just look at the data of the numbers, the facts on the ground. it speaks volumes. and it's really concerning right now

gentlemen. i ask you both, we're either at a cross roads where there is no end in sight. and what we see the horde of keeps going on for for a very long time. or maybe there's a deal, a short term deal or mid term deal. there's a ceasefire, there's some ability to get to a different equilibrium. i don't know at the time of our talking right now, which of these past will be on the question i have for both of you is, are you prepared in your own contribution? and we're thinking about this, how, how far will you go, how long do you see this going and your commitment to what's evolving there entity reply to provide relief and support. uh, to the people of god at dr. hoffman. i mean, we're going to stop at nothing to try to provide the support for the people of guy . so because they different they deserve our support in the situation that they've been placed. and it's horrendous. i mean, right now we're going to be advocating, day and night for a cease fire immediately, as well as humanitarian aid entering as well as hostages being released. we want

people to stop suffering, we want the bleeding to stop. we want to be able to start rebuilding this a very devastated and desert and destroyed small strip of land called the gaza strip. and so, you know, this idea of there may be this operation that's going to take place in dropbox and you mentioned how many people are crammed into the office right now. more than a 1000000 and a half. this idea that of this work and continues of 2025. it's unacceptable. and we're not going to stand for and we're going to work 24 hours around the clock to make sure that the children. and because uh especially the north of guys are who are sorting through animal feed to eat right now, that we can get them some proper meals, some proper care, some of the attrition. we want to make sure that the pregnant women or being kicked out of hospitals for hours after having a c section can actually have a proper space on prenatal and postnatal care. so this is of paramount importance and we're not going to accept this continuing any longer. dr. keith and i last word . yeah. the, you know, i think it again the bottom line of all of this and what's, what's gonna stop or where are we gonna stop? i don't think we're gonna stop as an organization is uplifting. an organization

would have been committed to supporting in the health care and poster. and we're not going to stop for any reason. and what we need really is an immediate unconditioned in a humanitarian ceasefire. and to allow on condition of the medical supplies and human opinion, a doing starting to visit. and we also need to immediately start doing efforts to rebuild the health care system because that, and save the southern and go innocent women and children. and that's, that's the bottom line of, of, of what we're doing and what we will continue to do. dr. fire off model, recent volunteer at nasa hospital in con eunice and dr. and why i keep that co founder of the palace. they need an american medical association. thank you so much for sharing your perspectives with us. thank you. thank you for having yes. so what's the bottom line in the gaza strip? it seems that he is really are working along 2 tracks. the fast track is the bombing and drone attacks, which have killed and maimed, a 100000 palestinians in the past 5 months with no end in sight. but there's

another track, the slower track to make gaza unlivable. so that means destroying schools. home is mosque. bakeries, power and water supplies, roads just about everything. and it means blocking food in medicine to the entire population of 2300000 people. if israel gets his way, disease and starvation will do what armies can't on a massive scale for now, as long as the work goes on, it feels like we're all stuck here watching a horror movie with a big difference that most people have shelter, medicine, food, and water within reach, while the people have gaza, just don't. and that's the bottom line. the a unique perspective, that's the place inception. does. they told the palestinians to go to on heard voices, to humor. i try to highlight the absurdities inconsistency, but upon proceeding the landscape, connect with our community and tap into conversations you will find elsewhere to

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