or do you just have to keep pushing because no one else can see. the vision is key is youtube. to short documentary by african filmmakers from ivory coast and the sea turtle god. and may in zambia, new series of africa, direct on algae 0 calls for an immediate cease fire in gaza and growing louder. but he's rarely prime minister benjamin netanyahu remains defiance insisting he's military was backed down until homos is destroyed. so what does that mean for negotiations? and how serious isn't it from yahoo? about continued diplomatic efforts, they seized inside story the

out of the and welcome to the program. i'm joe now. how old and 30000 palestinians killed tens of thousands more injured warnings of a famine and the health care system that the u. n says its own. this is on its knees, yet the bottoms keep fully own gaza. nearly 5 months since the start of israel's devastating war, there's no laptop in its daily attacks on friday. i'm also announced that some of the captives held in gaza had been killed in his rightly strikes. catawba, u. s. and egypt to be mediating to express these 5, but the fee is the constant bombardment could threaten those discussions and israel's killing of more than a $100.00 pounds of students. as they scrambled to collect food aid on thursday is for the threatening to inflame the region. but prime minister benjamin netanyahu insists his military offensive will go on until these goals are achieved. we've already discussed with guests. but 1st this report from when we consume sharif

mexico at the time of talk sort of ceasefire. optimism about negotiations for the possibly troops and gaza interrupted by the killing of more than 100 palestinians and testy as to be to, to collect food. many of the victims were taken to causal cities, fairly functioning on ship, a hospital o u n team that met some of the victim says many of those they still have suffered gunshot wounds. this hospital is treating more than 200 people that were injured yesterday. you have seen people with gunshot ones, you have seen up to fees and we have seen the children as young as 12 that were injured. yes. street a group safe. thursday's killings undermined the immediate need for the ceasefire as food and supplies can and took off. 05 months of his was will, has led to a humanitarian catastrophe. a majority of palestinians of displays and stuff in the middle, but there was a tens child's officially registered in the hospital as having starved to death.

a very sad threshold, similar sat as to 30000 best. we reached all over garza and similar like those these uh, official records the, the unofficial numbers can unfortunately be expected to be higher as well as relentless flights of raising questions about whether it's really prime minister. benjamin netanyahu is even infested. indeed, as his negotiate his book to find in agreement the negotiations for a cease fire the, the, the, you know, the sticking point there has always been the end, the game. israel has been adamant that it's going to effectively destroy god, so it doesn't use those words, but we, we see what they're doing on the ground. we, we hear the rhetoric coming out of is really political circles. they want to make life on livable. they're trying to ethnically cleanse guys are as part of their so called greater israel plan. as long as that remains their intent. there's just not

a lot of incentive for, from us uh to, to agree to, to agree to a deal as well as bombing campaign is also costing you the lives of captives hesitant casa, the military being of high miles, kaufman, forget, says, is really s flags can 7 captives being held in district, the group lanes is really a tax for the depth of more than 70 of the $150.00 estimate. the captive still hasn't garza, the families have been demanding these really government to move to have been from in this to nothing. yeah, who's wound looming, assault and ruffle, is inevitable. after forcing more than a 1000000 palestinians to shelter and shouting, there will be even more suffering and destruction forgot some shoddy arches, eva, for inside story the as

well, let's bring it out. guess now in terms of easier, see, bailey inform is really minister of justice who initiated negotiations of the also piece the codes here in the abraham frat associated professor of conflict resolution at the institute, and also in the bahama to chicago, a professor of conflict resolution and diplomacy at george mason university. i will welcome gentleman to you or we are talking essentially about torques. now we know that around 10 days ago in paris negotiations took place with senior representatives of the us, katasha, egypt, and israel. that those took square a constructive enough that talks continued here in doha involving how mosse as well with egyptian and category media is shuttling between we know the broad outlines of a deal up to 6 weeks of oppose and the fighting faulty cap tubes to be released for around $400.00 prisoners, a ratio of $1.00 to $10.00. the repositioning of something is really forces in the

return of some palestinians to their homes in the gaza strip. but we have no deal as yet. you'll see bailey let me put the question to you in its most straightforward terms. is israel more particularly than nothing? nothing. yeah. who government, serious about talks to end this war about talk to and this will also show, i mean, no government day is going to have an endless say, well, if you ask me about the guarantees, rarely government and its at the, to the, to with the 2 state solution, my answer will be very different. but a i a, a, i hope that it won't take too long. i mean president bowden said the yesterday that the night they, they place it to be in the beginning or from a done on the dance of play mileage. and apparently these are the, the iphones that the question. so they'll about the length of the line

and the, the number of the, all the ballasting in a general rece the will be exchanged a for a kidney state, easily keeping it and so on. but they do, they place the question again is what the doing the ceasefire. it would be possible to talk with the file base also about the much bigger solution for our problem. and even even they will crises, eval between ease writing but his dns, dns. a $48.00 a may be, maybe it is an opportunity to try and talk seriously about a peaceful solutions as you allude, but there's no doubt whatsoever at, within the nothing you know, nothing. you're going to about the position towards a 2 state solution. they have ruled that explicitly abraham frat let,

let me move on to you. do you believe that negotiations are being conducted in good faith from the is riley sides of how do you see the willingness of how much to cooperate? oh, absolutely not. there is no good 5th and this negotiation there is no trust in this negotiations. i think the solve the major obstacles to a successful seed is buyer, basically, and i'm up show what bennett in yahoo, bite, wing, extremist. but then the whole government was from this negotiations was sort of these all the as lady kept those give a seized by a for 6 weeks only, and then continue the war afterwards too. and as it goes off the map, that's basically what that is, why you lived in and as lady position on this negotiation. now how much who has only this issue of the cap is that they're able to negotiate the why you want a mass or any of a policy would give them a it's only the content that has,

which is the captives in order to be after 6 weeks to be attacked again and continue the war. and now we, we know that the young lady in pensions, from what we see is basically the mass exposures of the experience and gaza. that domain does in have a not happy people, you know, for the phone gases. there is about 70 percent of homes and guys i have been destroyed. the infrastructure has been destroyed all to me and people are displaced . so good luck with the construction and this is not the whole thing and that the american, a better solution is not giving cash. what it says back out about 6 weeks, they wouldn't be seized by it. so no one has given cash. what else is best would it be? see is buy out. so that's the reason. i think there is a huge gap between the 2 bought this between buy zigler. i'm us and bill we

negotiate in good faith that we're going to lease to a better minute ceasefire, sustainable fees via that chances as own a break it through in this negotiation. but the man is very unlikely in my opinion . okay, well that question of why would, how must negotiate a way the key card is something we will return to, but festival, to continue just drawing the broad outlines of this discussion. let me bring it in by let me check holly to look at the international parameters of a deal, the coals growing up, allowed to have a more frequent now from around the world. from europe, from latin america, from africa, from arab states across the middle east. of course, for an immediate cease fire. to what extent does that pressure do you think way on the netanyahu government, a still slow months. i don't know the song, the basic mistake,

but let's look at the competitive route pro to we need to differentiate between the process and the process and do how i am k o i know in practice. so no one can deny that is a degree method process, but i want to know, can we clean it out some the pragmatic pragmatics. that means the end, the results of this process so far? no, because we have a number of a lost in translation problems. when we either need to have and what have them, what i'm sweating when we talk about use for the meaning is simpler, which is put in the fire. oh, this is the logic b, b c, 's of all pick to the news and processing. however, the installation, the is the, the nothing the hours of the do not to go the rain and are considered in the maximum of true spot, open ended pool. this is why we're coming up with

a 6 week pause. so far the, the position has shifted from what it was back in late november when we had the 1st exchangeable hostages and present those thanks to the got the mediation. unfortunately, the white house, the, the vine that was of watching the, hopefully the by next week with me. i'm a big girl, but unfortunately, we're not talking about on just a full 40, isn't i? it is a truthful because my age and this is fine for the rest of the world. unfortunately, these offices and the auditors are coming, coming together. therefore, i think we, we maintain the process for the weeks to come, but i don't see the line at the end of that the, that means we're not talking about the same. what do you think of any particular would? which means booking the fire out for good and then shifting thought the league into the most open. it was you agent between some costs socialism and what is about the

policy is gonna gain at this point so far. there has not been this mind, and i love the point i would like to add it briefly is right. and that then, you know, basically goal set and in this process not to reach, this is fine, but he went but just to find a way out for the hostages and programs, this is going to be the scene in holiday that could be used by any position therefore, i think the black list i want to get is indeed the need for some the communication . what do we mean when we talk about just fine? okay, well, you bring up the, by the ministration, of course, the, by the administration. the united states is ralph closest allied, conspicuous, uh, in the international community for not cooling for an immediate cease fire. there was a resolution possibly coming at the security council for what is described as a temporary humanitarian ceasefire. as soon as practicable, i'm going to ask you, i'll see bailey with the, in the,

in the tease only us pressure that could force the nothing yahoo government to change its calculus from concentrating not just on a 6 week temporary pause with unknown a follow on. but instead to be looking at something more lost to what 1st of all, he feels thinking about pressure. this is why he's not being done here. you're going to done you. how is the legitimate and elected prime minister. but a, you have many voice, many voices, and many groups in these very little to the security establishment, which is a different view than that. and then, you know, you'll have a, the most of the public opinion they're going to be copying on both as they are, which are not the simple people say, and it any out of that office a be in the position is the they will join the government the guns

a is so the company, the behind the was the to the fat a. yeah, but the difference is about that, how do you manage it the, the next the steps. but if i do not have space, i think that the point with united states is not that they util. bose is the general idea or fe east or a deep including people like my sense that the main aim is to prevent from us from governing guys in the future. if that is issued, then there is no need to continue this se well to continue to less often from the south and, and to keep people and to be killed in whatever. and you. so what happened the other day, weekday? well, we dust these tends to these poor people in, in guys though, in the 100 people apparently a died. i don't believe that any bug of things and that the, these really all me is still daily in order to, to kill them. but these of the,

the resides of offsets the sats confrontations, and it is not cold, it says dime regretfully. and we should definitely declined into going the best way to prevent the best. what better way to present data is stored in the small and it can be in the weekly if we, we'll show that how much is not going to be filed of the of the morning after. oh god for them guys. mostly both my want to to tell me that if you don't mind and the only in the sense that if that is the simplistic and goal simply to ensure the time us cannot go from the gaza strip. i mean, the nothing you know, who government has put out a one page document suggesting that some unknown groups will simply materialize out of the population and take over that role. i mean, that's not a, that's not a feasible plan b, is it the degree we deal with that?

it is not a, it is not the plan. you didn't call it the plan. it does not, is government. it was never confirmed that accepted by the government. i believe that have you broke? have you brought it to the government? a many, a ministers i don't know, but it in my joy, no. well, the rejected deed and the excuse me for saying you get these really very, i'm assuming those, these groups are not going to govern guys. is what cannot they a dress something like that. then they'll can be a kind of a plus b sheep. and it's a, it's before 4 shelled lied for a year or 2 a week. the main, think of the police to, you know, sorry, be, and then it should be the but it's do know a, sorry the whole if we have by then the but the thing is 30 this evening, but the, okay. let's look at how much in all of this abraham proud. you say that home us has no incentive to negotiate. certainly not to give up. it's key code the

captives. however, i do want to ask you whether at a certain point the pressure weighs on how much as well, because we've crossed the 50000 mach now in terms of how students killed in this war. the vast majority of the population living under tremendous pressure within the gaza strip, now facing a shortage of aid facing family and children dying of malnutrition. that incident, we talked about on thursday, absolutely representative of what is happening to palestinian people, ostensibly governed by hamas. at what point does a mazda is calculation change or to do something to save the palestinian people? well, let me test the disagree with us. have been over to you said that the goal is to ensure that pam us will not go with them and goes in the following day. this is totally false because how much has already be at the ones that are question has

probably be around several times that the exit think i think about con, garbage. i think the government that's totally outside politics. so a specialist i kind of makes who would be able to join and one does that, and so that will come out. so this is the solution. if this is the case, the how about the bottom, the bottom as user problem said above design and government at all. so how about says accepted that you need to government with the policy that national those are the which is also what the by bid wants. once the policy, the detroit and gaza, but it, but on the contrary method, you know, as repeatedly repeatedly said that he's not accepting me, but i must move up the, the policy and also to see that you will see bill and signed the old agreement with them it's unfortunate to see you with somebody that he's defending doesn't, you know, despite on his piece of parts of that team at the box. and so all you have uh,

do you want to come in on that? no, this is my make the monk mom. it's done by the time it's done by you'll say please do we think that nathaniel, i would like me to see to and defend him in front of you. i am very thoughtful. i'm about to defending. i'm not doing that, i said the whole piece, the some of the molding of the abraham. i beg your pardon, let, let's put those issues to one side and could consider them the free quite. now i continue please, because i did look at, you know, why am i got the they never met any a whole by saying that this has been born because again, it's a method the older people. and they said that these about like something given the also you know, going to be. and also you are saying that the is not part of the drywall domestic.

and that happened yesterday, though we have new times we'll see joe done for a washington post or put unfair to me that it was due to the, as somebody firing on the, uh, what's the flow of domestic good old people hungry people that they're going to don't get food, not saying that, not be able to find out who if i may be, am i think that you'll see was making a slightly different point. i'm saying that they would simply standing there with a pre intention of slaughtering palestinians. let's leave that for the moment. to one side, what i want to ask you about abraham is what would make how mosse put aside it's preconditions and step in to it with a gesture, if you like, in the interest of saving palestinian lives to end this war, what would make, how high must change its calculus to do things one as a better man i'm see is find out that the environment water is demanding about

except bon jovi and nothing at all. um his to fascist. and it says, uh small groups um the big a piano and i'm about to start by the list of the where is the man that gets these 5? so this is one tool. i think no problem government, the government involving the policy number for the house is not on the following day with the release of business from both sides. why is that? we're talking about a $100.00 to $20.00 is a to present us, but there are, if $1800.00 policy, another prisoners in the present, most of many of them are a children with no trial, their own as many of them on. but what school, the detention administered detention, but that is why you're with no trial was normal. yes. but no one is talking about that. this is, this is the issue of

a justice. it would be for both sides. that that was the was fun. what it was funny give it a bit of stuff to give us about a 120 later presents, but no one mentioned that the prisoners. so what is the justice of this issue? and that's why, well, i guess we'll see names even more that they've been treated as list human out of somebody you with this is not acceptable, and that's why what's making, unless we have a wonderful thing both about this are treated as the point of human being i don't think we're going to see an end of this lecture unfortunately. ok, mama check out. we increasingly listening to this discussion, listening to the, the polls that exist between the east riley's and how much on the palestinians. it feels like the united states really is the only country that holds the key to unlock this paradigm. what i want to ask you is going to change the

calculus of the byte and administration. is it going to be more violence against civilians like we saw on thursday? is it going to be domestic pressure waiting on him in the united states in an election yet? or is this really simply about bible's own decade? sloane determination to stand by israel no matter what. before i address your question, let me just make one comment. i had to hire the specs for minnesota. used to be named the girl wants to book into early ninety's, but now i printed a form and the way is become in the corner. just stick about a minute. nothing you know is action and i think we know nothing more than a 100 people died. i don't think of just as more accidents, 2 other boys. yes, we mean the great power. they broke the peaceful house so. so most of those and then it happens to be united states, but the deed is a split within the us at ministration to buy documents region in particular. and

now between no believe that the us should same as the situation been, should put some pressure on both sides. the storage is just fine agreement. then we move into more than romantic model and the student and the other group that is led by secretary of state to bring cannot unfortunately, or even put in by doing it any else to try to get by the gate. how much and then reach what they call the day, and these are 2 of school phoenicians, nothing. basically, i'm not sure that the number even steve is one, even kills more than 30000 individuals in go that we've, we've given the position of how much because it's living should be in the winter bliss and all those the heads of how much a girl are willing to start play 5 and up to $200.00 pounds. and in the video, they've seen the number of multiple working in

a know he's paying for the design. unfortunately, they are putting the blame on the idea and the whole world now has realized that we define them as with surgeon, is to provide in full military and diplomatic. i'm better love for them than i was actual. so do we need to, to, to point and do this to didn't point wouldn't be when the, by the brain can look at each other in the eye, then realize that these, the open ended supports. the new is cool and there's some losses both. okay? no problem. i think as one of the more last, when do you have a position there, but i expect that's one of the key to put the pressure on it. and also have the coverage will come put similar pressure on how much the, the ship to extend the formula. be all what's going on that kind of fortunately. and then you know, is invest in both the degree in an open ended room with no vision. the no strategies we need and then we need to approach the end of our discussion. you'll

see bailey and i want to ask you the window of legitimacy. it's euphemistically cold. and israel, this paint this, this power runs by the united states of israel's actions in the past and in the occupied palestinian territories. do you believe that window of legitimacy is closing? i don't think so because it depends of what's going to happen in the near future if it is possible to change the situation to go seriously for peace. we did the, the, the, all, i believe the whole world there wouldn't be a very happy with you said a situation. and then what ever use well in the buddies the yes, we agree a don't yearly and otherwise we'd be accepted by and allowed by the will. of course you've got full beat. nothing like that happens. we cannot and diesel. we cannot go

for peace. there is no other government in use, right. and then i think that they it would not be very bright future day for us. and especially for the piece can be easily a gentleman by thanks to all our guests. you'll see bailey abraham for help and mamma to check how we. i'm thank you to you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, delta 0 dot com and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a j inside story. and you can also join the conversation on x out handle is at a j inside story for me, joe and holland, the entire team here. and so that's good bye for now the what constitutes exempt. so we generally talk,

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