pushing because no one else can see. the vision is key is you to somebody to show documentary spot for can still make it from ivory coast. and the sea turtle got an estimate in zambia, new series of africa direct on which is 0 is you are paying public support for ukraine, faltering, angry farmers in poland and elsewhere of protesting against cheap imports from the war, told country and governments are under pressure to take action. so what does this mean for ukraine is the war with russia interest? it's the, yeah, this is inside story, the

out of the, i'm welcome to the program. i'm joe know that your opinions been one of ukraine's biggest back as an it's fight against russia. among the many ways it's given support is by reducing tariff. sonya craig knew now quick, i've heard cultural inputs, but now you're being farmers of pushing back. they say the livelihoods of being undermined by foreign competition, and they want to trade barriers re imposed. is this part of a big a backlash? and can you repeat? indeed, as is discontent, while maintaining the support for ukraine will go to our panel in just a few moments, but 1st sent them on a hand. has this report. farmers in poland are angry, and they're not the only one. protests have been taking place in many parts of europe. you regulations are part of what's during the unrest. but for many, the biggest issue is cheaper food imports from ukraine that they say are under cutting their business, not the go shows of greatness. susan, ukrainian green is flooding. poland, and bringing is poor and poor. we don't know what to do with our products anymore.

i mean, for the moment then wash it. well, this is out pain. i want the government to take concrete decisions. we want actions, i want the government to understand and help us financially, or to exp, bolt, this grain from ukraine to countries in africa. for example. when russia it, and they did you freight in 2022, the european union stepped into help. it dropped the tariffs on agricultural imports, providing economic lifeline, the crating and economy. since then, europe is also provided more than a $140000000000.00 and $8.00, and taking in millions of refugees bought 2 years on a backlash appears to be brewing with the war. now, entering the 3rd year, the farmers, one tire of 3, imposed to pullman's, prime minister has acknowledged their concerns, but try to redirect their anger toward russia. says it looks just as long as it doesn't mean. usually the problem is not the wish can. it is not certainly a problem of grain and food imports from ukraine. a few people realize that all markets in europe and in poland is being de stabilized by products coming from

russia and batteries. so we need to take all possible measures to stop that b. u is going some way to meet the farmers concerns. i plan to extend a free trade arrangement with ukraine until 2025 will now allow emergency measures if market distortions to come to great. and leaders are promising tariffs on russia and bel ruth, that they say will help stabilize prices. but it's unclear whether that's enough to reduce the discontent and preventive bigger backlash against support for ukraine. sense and monitor al jazeera for inside story. the. we're going to focus on the political implications of the story with our panelists from across the western europe in warsaw. alexandra reuben scott, is a journalist and commentator as a twitter o x profile as a cheese unraveling western europe in t. timothy me, lovano is president of the keeps going to be comics, inform administrative,

economic development, trade and agriculture, and joining us from brussels. it's suzanne lynch, associate editor with politico. great to have you all here with us. and let's begin. alexandra reuben school with you as ukraine increasingly struggles to hold the line in the east against russia, across the border with poland in the west. it's essentially baffling on the front now, among its closest allies within the european union. pony farmers are angry all day right. do you think to be reacting in this way to be venting their anger at you crate in this way as well? i think that so this problem is not the instruction that well understand the trying the cost of the conflicts in ukraine. i think most service palmers have nothing against helping you train this full. and the few people that appear at those farmers protests that you know,

have any kind of co russian things to say of a very small minority farmers. and we, because they consider that the union meeting, the full seating commission by turn loving this axis as well. you try to the common market to the market. um huh. so that's fine. was especially in town and then there's the u. p. green deal. that is also true match or to the, in the nest. so most of this being off of pharmacy in the you, meaning environmental regulation and rules for security and on the one hand farm is addresses to comply with all these regulations. on the other hand, the p union has no issue with blessing. ukrainian grain austin technical ring training showed that it's not something you read the elections also just safety related stream and uncontrolled as the cellphone is an angry about the versus the

angry of the 30 supplement 1st and foremost before the angry at ukraine. so what they're asking for is, and then bogu on your training info to excellence from the frame. um, they ask the transits as you bring in grades that social products as well secured in a way that the brain is really going to the porch and then transport the way to wherever the means of your train. oh, instead of being uploaded onto the totally small, it says this, i think the formulas will base of this. okay, what sits in the same amount of time? it seems like a distinctly reasonable position for publish farms to take. do you think ukraine is right to expect to be able to? so send it's produced across the border into power into another you countries knowing that a portion of it is offloaded into local markets under, under cutting local produces. so what's difficult for us in ukraine to

understand is why a farmer separate test and ukranian name presented protest, and russian in verse which are going through the bellows, have been the recent investigation by journalists who stole that at least 3 companies. in paula, the buying a ross, the green russian culture dates, and there are no protests of the border was relatives. so that's one conflicting report. and the other one, the protest small. but nonetheless, at the mcdaniel and border, arguing that ukrainian grain somehow gets to see any of the results of russia and then gets expert to back to bowling from there, which is absolutely not true. and then of course, another aspect is how much of the grain gets in transit through gold and how much of the green space in poland. and i think the numbers on the public. and this is a little bit of difficult discussing because no one is willing to talk back. so i think there is a lot of misinformation and there's a, it has become

a very political issue and you can feel that way of being unfairly punished as well . that issue of, of agricultural produce coming in from the bellows from russia is something that don't test the publish problem is to, has raised suzanne. and then tell them to move on to you. what is the your opinions role in a while? a commissions role in all of this back in 1920 to 2022. they lifted quarters in paris at the beginning of the war to help you crane shift their agricultural projects also to try and protect and present level food security. since then, they've set back and watched this situation disintegrate, unable or unwilling to properly come up with a solution. is this a mess of the use making it? is it the use job to fix it? i think the does have responsibility here in id say. it had temporarily lifted that restrictions on some imports. and again, it's going to do so for another year. and it's deciding that at the moment,

and it has got by and for that, with some exceptions, that ukraine is always have certain free trade arrangements with the stretching back assume years. and it's obviously not a member of the you, but it has a relationship with the which allow them to access markets to some extent. but this was a specific decision as a temporary, a lift this ad for these kind of products the, the issue now i think to the you is the fact that the 4 poll opponents have been one of the strongest supporters of ukraine since this war started in the early days of the war, poland and the baltic countries at where the wooden side of india are to some of them are western countries saying, look, this is serious at this war may happen in ukraine, and the last needs to be aware of that. and then once the war started, poland was very important of your grades. so the very fact that, as i was told and that we see these programs happening and voted against ukrainian

imports and agriculture is a worrying sign. i think that support for ukraine is not a steady, maybe as it was at the beginning of the war across your right. so i think that for me then for your, for lead your opinion. well, that's the precise point i wanted to pick up with you staying with you. suzanne, is that i mean, it's hard to deny that it has been a sluggish response by the you to these issues. possibly because they feel they have their hands tied by governments within the you, as you say, we feeling protest possibly less inclined towards you credit than they did 2 years ago. what does this tell us about the state of feeling among you members towards you? kind of what does it tell us specifically about the risk of a spill over into and to ukraine. sentimental anti support of ukraine sentiment among publics within the block? yes. so at the moment, i mean, and i think it, there is no doubt that it's a difficult time. few grain in this war, there's a stay in may with russia and there's a real fear. now that typically after watching the elections that absolutely will

send in the, you know, one way more, more troops at to the front line. and this bad news for you. great. in terms of the, the military situation on the ground. and obviously a, it's stalls coming from the united states that the, you have still a lot, that's a degree. the 50 been in euro a pack, a few paid recently. countries like germany have really turned around our am a, giving it to japan would have submitted $38.00 know, 2 f t paid. and even though in jeremy's case, it still exists. and given these towers misses that you praise added it desperately need on the main goal are showing that, you know, overall europeans are still at the very support of you've trained a warranty page with this war. however, i think what's interesting about this agriculture, an important issue is in this, as we're reading, what would happen potentially, if you prayed, was ever to join the you. and that's really where the rubber hits the role here. you know, it's easier for western european countries to support ukraine,

but they feel it's not their problem. if you payments to join the you would, then we cut out that issue where you bought this huge concrete, but a huge agriculture and markets now become a part of the european union. i think that's an issue for a lot of countries, which is perhaps why ahead of tune parliamentary elections. and the issue of accession has been parked for now. alexandra ruben is good. i want to ask you about as the sort of sentiment involves within poland, with remembering that poland has taken in millions of refugees since the war began around a 1000000 and a half of actually settled the is the risk of their situation inside poland. becoming untenable. i don't think the situation will become untenable, but for the current government, which has been in power only since december, the cheese, remember, was the actual period of time. it's the coalitions of the 9 pause in this government which are very different political programs. so um, what keeps them together is the,

some kind of political change of how long it will last, nobody knows. and you have to present problems in this coalition. so 2 business policies and you have an intellectual, maddox calling, that is something we have visual elections in naples, we have you seen elections in june and then we have potential next. and especially in the regional directions. well they have full child in the country side, and this is where the 2 cousins, awesome. so the government coalition actually get those from. so this is a very contentious issues at all. and i think what the government is trying to just trying to find the balance between healthy right and the same time satisfy the needs of the products. farmers they makes you can send it to gp and they have cost would be like should quite last funds 20 percent of people is somehow working in the as a cultural section. so this is the difficulty that you have political issues inside

of countries. that is a reason why the ukraine cannot change of status on this other social issue. because for the printer, i think i've ever slept in some sense of what she said. it's equally important. that's why i don't believe the solution will be out soon. and we have seen on both sides of the mental still didn't walk. this is an speak to common, discuss this issue on the 24th of february. now, which does events you would like to pass? this invite you to publish trusted those. um, these are what we can see that this is actually becoming more and more contentious quite as far as the various model of the training process shields. so um, well this creates some kind of distortion of coverage. a sorry to interrupt. i have a talk to you about this balance thing of interest. so these balances are having to be weighed on both sides of the board, the team assignment amount of take us into this thinking in the ukranian political mind. presidents, the landscape outraged,

he was at the sight of ukrainian grain being spilt on road sides and rail sides by ponies, pharmacy quoted, a mockery of you cried. he's got to walk a very delicate line, hasn't the presidency lensky between trying to keep these markets open for revenue to be generated to be able to pay for the war. and at the same time, not alienating. he's nearest his closest allies by undermining or dismissing the cuz concerns of the constituents. yes, absolutely. so residential and skin ukraine is extremely grateful to the boys. people for support. and the support is felt strongly. i recently was traveling through bought and it is there. people support people fuel crate. i think the situation was farmers is indeed unfortunate. but hospital, this is indeed the few brand new farmers in discharge or the longer on that more

competitive because they have more investment and capital historically. and they simply bring. 2 um, sometimes better quality on the same for you, but definitely the cost is lower. now in principle, this benefit to consumers in particular, impala to, uh, having more competition. and, uh, but it is version of course the purchaser spot info. so that's a typical, very classic example of political tension within any country where a local producer some more consolidated than consumers. and therefore they have more political spend. no, you're probably doesn't want to jump into this at all. so we don't want to in any way, make it more difficult to figure out political compromises either within the u. o, as in paul a to or undermine to support within the, you know, for you. what we want to is to find a solution which would be a win win, and my view one bears my personal as an economist on is that people are looking at

this a 0 sum game where it's either bullet farmersville you printing and farmers. but in fact, they couldn't waste jointly into infrastructure investor jointly into storage because in the joint place in better products. and that's the required football season to step above the problem and find creative solutions. in fact, what we have seen is the new brand new grain. uh, transit through boeing has been steadily decreasing all in the course of been weren't exactly the cause of the book dates. and then in fact, it was an increase in through other doctors such as hallmark and some of the your investment and ukrainian investment in international investments into infrastructure brands. in fact, all of these things have gone into bullet. so i think we're in a very unfortunate 0, so i'm kind of political argument and we'll have to find a way to get out of this. now the pictures on great be on the, on the,

on the ground is probably a disturbing point out for us because 1st it brings us, the memories will follow the more insight or just the last century when rock that start up. and 2nd, we know when i did bring under view styles and attacks, so people die, it's really, it's really insult. and so it's, it's really unfortunate. i'm going to pop that issue up to hold onto more until the end of our discussion. because i wanted to talk about the residences of history at the end, but just picking up on this idea of a 0 some political calculation happening. suzanne lynch, you report from the heart of the you in brussels. there is this parliamentary election coming up in june. there is concern about 5 or fall right, a groups piggybacking of these fama protests and growing sentiment against ukraine and the war is it, the case that you create is essentially now taking back seat in the politics

ahead of that parliamentary election and that it will suffer as a result of local politics concerns to do with the far right. i think on definitely the junior being part of the elections are way on. every thing here in brussels at the moment. i think this is a reason why there are the new fiber caution from the european commission from the european commission president ers have underlying about how quickly to move forward with the next steps for ukraine joining the you do you need or state agree to, you know, give the green light to you. craze joined the you even though everyone knows this well, i'm for every country takes years at. but there seems to be a sense of the physical to slow down that at least at, even though they're going to come forward with some proposal over the next month or so that any big decision by you leader would be made after the elections. because quite frankly, they're worried about stroking any kind of an anti you both in the, the lapses holes are already showing that across the constant we could see

a surgeon support for right waiting fire right parties. and we're seeing prop farmers protesting, not just in poland, but all over europe, from road to paris to here in brussels. we've seen a lot of very kind of violent approach that's here. the hard for the you with farmers annoyed not just about imports instant you, but also be use green climate policies that they say are very targeting them. so all of this is adding to a sense of anger from some part of the electric before the due to the actions. so i don't think they're going to want to move forward in a significant way with ukraine's membership bids after the you before the elections are out of the way. your time time time is something that ukraine just doesn't have a moment to affect middle vandals when he imagines that with all of this going on, it's going down extremely well in the kremlin. yeah, so, so i think the problem is, is happy every time there's some argument was in the your because when you your

country and you bring the group benefits from the excited about this. so i think we'd have to be very, very careful. we have to be above this decision makers, experts, media ability, since it's all responsibility to understand what the crown is actually doing in eastern europe. and if you great falls below. the point of view in refugee is important, but to get that and the roster will not stop, i'm not sure this will actually try to take on may so, but they definitely will continue to follow, arise, and undermine the union is approaching. so in that sense, this is an example where in the 1st of the way, the public defense and political system board benefits kremlin. elliot, i want to make it very clear. it doesn't mean there was any one on the part of the professor. so anyone who's actually consciously doing something, but we have to be careful and when you need to gauge and, and mobilization and finding ways to win win rather than spite within each other.

that's exactly what kremlin wants. alexandra reuben's good pick taking on this idea that this plays into pollutants. narrative pollutants, hand pollutants, idea of the time is on his side that it is only a matter of time before corrects and use your pin. so solidarity. c. poland joining countries like hungry in slovakia in taking a distinctly and to ukraine. stent as well was we have seen the hum, gary and resistance can be broken and has feedback is waiting to hear from you small the, the issue you see, the issue here is the, um, the laura, how's the cost um and from the beginning that was basically a, this is going to the cost um for your brain, especially firstly, but then also for the whole coalition that supports you print summary. see if we have to change the way we provision the countries with, with natural resources,

with gas, all this i've cost a lot and there's an actual process of, you know, being tired of starting to be a little bit more now. will that how it has to be deliberate and you can see that they often also pauses and issues come into play like in the us or the republicans of connected uh the issue of health when you train, we're solving the for the price is the price on the border with mexico. so this one which one's political impulses and bangs coming into play and then this will. so the fact that you agree, it wasn't prepared for this western you. it wasn't 6 headphones for. and it turned out that it doesn't have the capacity to deliver weapons and ammunition in the mountains that are necessary to the talk to restructure this defense industry. but these things take time. yes, news. so before that happens, use will test. so all of these issues have come together as a full countries are looking at costs because they're looking at their elections and they look at people complaining installation,

rising prices as well. so all of this is coming into play. that is very important is my opinion. um, but the thing receives the healthy needs and the records it needs now because if it does, then the roll will be over seen and you will win. okay, and i think this is something we have to on the line and someone will be in this. i, i want to begin to rep a discussion by bringing us back to where we began to angry farm is in europe to black, blockading the border with ukraine, spilling tons of ukrainian gray and on the roadside to offend me. the amount of you touched on it that i wanted to ask you about you credit and commentators talking about how those images trigger memories of the hollow. the more they started an era of forest farm and that led to the style of ation of millions of people. this is incredibly potent rhetoric to you, support it to stand by these appeals to history as well. so the problem was

this, i feel sad. the indeed is very powerful and there is a need was people, but they can go either way. so is it that we are upset up all of that they are doing something to us, or is it that the cause of all of this, of these concerns of this conflicts of these frequencies extra with the kremlin again? and i think that's due later. and so we have to remember that indeed, even in my mind, i did the very compelling mental picture of people starving in your brain. and even now we have 40 percent, according to some estimates 20 percent according to some other estimates on the farm or july. people are dying and every day people are starving. and we actually have to expert solve all good, some of our products because we need money. and when he bits money to buy weapons so that we can defend ourselves. and you know, it's, yeah, i want to control myself. it's really, really, really, it's the real we have died. oh, it's real. and so, you know,

when we got caught in the politics, i'm with go to this, but 0 some mentality. when we build women, we environment, this is just, you know, this is just, it's costing why i come outside of course and no one knows us. no, not a dollar, a support, not the ability to support. but we have very great who, who this the for the may be in the century. but the 1st time you grant has a chance to defend itself. but you're right, this image just remind off what roster has done to us and continues to do a temp temp of 5. thank you. alexandra reuben's got a final note on history, these borderlands between ukraine and poland. but since the war began, have been a super highway for refugee is going one way. weapons going the other back in the ninety's forty's, these were killing lands. blood bugs happened the between nationalist ukrainians and polls who died in the 10s of thousands. it was given the history or at least

a very subjective notion of history. is that the very base of this entire war, it feels as if these are the tensions that urgently need to be resolved. would you agree? well, i, well, i would like to go back to the history of the mass exit because we up the advisors on this issue and selling anything. how to, how to treat this also. i think let's leave the house for, for now. the whole, the most of course, the terrible massacres which, which each happened to tell me the size of the russians fossils. i use a saw him, but so far so close also is associated with that a in a strong images. but i think i think mistakes have been made of both sauce. i think that sometimes also the reflect that is coming from the thing inside of every time something doesn't go to class on the way. maybe ukraine thinks it should to say that we are usefully use for russia. is sometimes a little bit. okay. well, um,

so i think this is also something um, i think the thing is, diplomacy does how he thinks level my opinion. and um, i think all these filters are suppose i'm being sold, but it has to be with those. well, my thanks to all of our guests, alexander rabinski, to my faith middle vaughn defenses. lynch and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again. any time by visiting our website, delta 0, don't com. and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a inside story. you can also join the conversation on x, r, and leaves at a inside story for me, joe. the whole and the whole team here. good bye for now. the, the bits of talking destination for travelers seeking them either paradise experience. but the idyllic archipelago of fiji is

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