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of the season, these invoices and reference quote forces to act on this united, international cool for peace and to silence the guns. it passed with 14 votes in favor, but it was not unanimous. russia abstain from the vote. they said the resolution had noval ends de escalation of the conflict and getting more aid to those in need . but the question the need for it given recent developments, namely the opening of an aide route. and they have choose the united states of acting in their own political interests. well, nothing yet easy. we have no illusions as to the true intentions of west and country is not great. however, the double standards look particularly glaring, given that those same countries are dragging out the adoption of a document on the seas by in the gaza strip, where genuine mascot is taking place on the organization and human rights watch. welcome to move, however, saying it was a necessary step and long overdue. they called on the parties to the conflict with respect to international law,
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and they called on the security council to enforce it. kristin salumi al jazeera, the united nations. now, jerry is president, has ordered the army to rescue at least 287 students conducted by gunman on the last day. at least one child was killed during the king. nothing in the state of can do not know the 9 jerry. the students believes to be between the ages of $8.15 . this is the 2nd mass adoption in a week. a new york jury has found the former president of honduras guilty of drug trafficking conspiracy. juan, rolando fernandez is accused of corruption and working with drug gangs in this country to protect the us bound shipments. u. s. federal prosecutions have said that fernandez turned hundreds into a knock from the state during his presidency from 2014 to 2022. he now faces a possible life sentence, or large crowds have gathered across the last in america to mock international women's day. thousands took to the streets of the mexican capital. they were
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rallying against sexism and equality and discrimination. those challenges will be taken on nation the see it by one and as the tooth top contenders, hold a presidency. all women ultimately international women's day and front. the government added the guarantee of abortion rights and to its constitution, the fast country to do so. the public ceremony was held in the capital power when find those changes in all that set for me in the spelling of your day. i'll be back with much more news for you here on al jazeera, off to upfront, and stay with the the biggest global that extra and you out in history, the world's biggest democracy, post its own epic showdown. john main screen of off in grandfather viewport box. really focusing on india as i traveling across the country,
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examining the issue of the 6 and the 4th of athletics at this critical moment in the country of history. the india coming soon on august, the after 5 months of israel's brutal bombing campaign and siege on gaza that is still more than $30000.00 palestinians. and seen israel facing a case of genocide at the international court of justice. negotiations continue and a cease fire maybe image, but even if a cease fire is reached, what happens next? will there be account ability for the war crimes committed as the former commander in chief of these really navy and former director of israel, secret service on the aisle and then upfront by the media yellow and thank you so much for joining us on upfront. i think you most uh, as we record negotiations for a ceasefire in guys that continue to advance,
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but many are asking even if there were to be a ceasefire. what happens next? note you've stated that you hope is rarely, society will demand and i quote security democracy and an end to these rarely occupation of the palestinian territories because the 3 are inseparable. but this idea strays quite far from prime minister benjamin netanyahu, whose intentions, which currently suggest taking indefinitely control over the security and civilian affairs of guys it. how do you respond to prime minister netanyahu has plan? well, i look to respond to other than you know, because this is the beauty of democracy. um, i represent myself. uh, i do want to present a disease or the people um, any of these ladies uh agree with me, but uh as long as the primary sir. um, as much as i don't like it. uh you represent the state of view it. so i'm not gonna
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go see anything really nothing. yeah, i'm telling what i believe in. i hope this is wiley's really soon. i hope 0 really some of your audience, for example. and finally sees it is a democracy. i hope that we should have elections as soon as possible, and then they, like, people will vote for, for uh, for another leader. i guess my question is, why do you disagree with prime minister netanyahu? you said you don't like it. what don't you like about his plan? okay, uh, let me go back to elizabeth and just thought, uh where is trying to explain. uh, to form people um the way we understand the reality in the middle used and um they usually point of view of the status of dollar. uh, i think that the experience, something that we couldn't imagine that ever we should face now why it is so
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important to stop with this. because you have to understand is that we went to a war as a way we understand before is it just for but uh, even adjustable must and because more should never be. and the goal of it says, is mighty discussion or debate. oh, why this is a uh, the reason why i do not agree with nothing. yeah. oh, is it uh, the way i understand him. you do not heavy intent. you don't have any intent to. and just for, for him off, it is a kind of an endless war. another idea when i speak about this war, when we fight, um, how much we choose uh, at the meant the least organization. and i'm not c or the part of students are the
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say, but how much is organization you know, way it is a totally different type before we are parting on to the mentions. one is or the military bottom. on the part of the 3rd. yes, it is a military war, but the, as the most important dimension, is a war of ideas. and what i claim you use if you don't have to defeat how mouse is not enough for this month, the is meaning, meaning every couple ability is probably because as this is what we're doing. but i've seen that the war must. and today, when you, when you talk about an in to the war, one of the things that isn't yahoo is talked about in addition to the actual military engagement is the question of a palestinian state. he's saying a very explicitly at this point that a palestinian state is a non starter. i totally disagree. uh we just have to go
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and um, just to support my view. uh, i see that in this case you know, uh on the road is me. if you listen to the american boys, your band boys, all the out of states and all the most of the states will sign for the piece initiative. i see the you, ron, and it's, you know, his beloved, how much is that? what you did not sign within the 1st year, we did the arrow bins and most of the lord. and if you listen to russia in china or they won't accept the future of 2 states, the only realistic view in order to bring that to this concert. so on at the job, unfortunately, is where the government today do not accept the question because it raises an interesting point about international consensus. you, you say that the world,
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the dominant majority of countries around the world, the arab states, europe, etc, are all calling for 2 states. there's a, there's a similar consensus around the globe that israel has committed war crimes. there is a similar international and global consensus that is real has contravene international law. uh, do you accept what, what consensus on those issues as well? no, i don't. why i don't. and i started, i started by saying, 1st of all, is it just more? and when we tried to on the, i'm not making it just just to be clear, i'm making a distinction between what you're calling sort of the, the inputs us for the war and the actual practices within the, in the war. there are some people who might agree with you with the war, but say in the practice of war, because 20, you know, 30000 people have been killed because 2 thirds of those people are women and children because we can even conventions have been violated by you know bombing
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mosse and in schools and hospitals, because no problem. so many civilians have been indiscriminately targeted that perhaps even if one were to except that the war itself was just as a, as a mission. but in practice it was still violated. so many laws. why do you think international consensus is, is, is so i the, i don't, i don't see that the international concerns. i think that this is a view of the street in many places. but i don't think that this is a view of most of the lawyers. the international you'll have to understand that i have the right a laptop. every target. yes, it is done. and i have to have the i have to explain to me something about uh, is it what, why is it working? god, he still problem, i think because it is the 1st well the 305 d which use it so populated area and there is no way
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plus tax and the gym. i thought it was out to me unfortunately without any intent. serious. this is the one reason the 2nd reason. well, let me, let me ask you what your 1st reason before you jump to the 2nd reason. again, even if one were to accept your argument, that is, that casualties are inevitable in war. that the okay, and this international law does not suggest or does not allow for you to indiscriminately kill civilians. it does not a lot. it does lives. it does that absolve you of your responsibility to make sure that somebody's or evaluated from a hospital for 4 or 4 years. and then, and then finally, then i want to get your response to this. and then also, you know, you say these are legitimate military targets, but when you, when you blow up a hospital or when you, when you destroy a school or a mass, these are not a military targets as such. and the only way they will become military targets is if they were to lose that status. and to date there's been almost no evidence
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presented by the state of israel that these targets have lost their status, their protective status, so that they are legitimate military targets. and even if they were, because how mazda is in there, you still have to evacuate civilians. you stuff that gives the mean time to get away. if civilians don't leave and you don't just get the blow up the place because they, they civilians have been left a, a whole more refugee camp for example. um, what do you make? sure? what is the question? my question is, what do you, what do you make of the geneva conventions and all these other international legal statues that make it very clear that you don't have the ability or the right to blow up the houses of worship, or hospitals or schools, simply because you believe that how must agent may be in there without taking proper measures, and without making sure that the billions are protected? i don't. okay. i heard you. i don't see if i, i not sure that you. if you read, you know, the facts we saw was a respect. it is not that we believe that some of us is using it.
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it is because we know it. and we've presented real. real evidence in every case is the case of moss, is a case of hospitals which we do not a dock by the way. so what i'm trying to explain is at 1st was ever in which is, this is how much the organization or what we called the bottom it can. garza is using the civilians as a human issue. i'm not inventing it, you just have to go to the internet at the what, what, whatever, whatever it is you haven't, that's there, because today they're actually no evidence presented. it's pretty heavy. this go on my website for the last 10 years, the mazda website,
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how much the website they're saying that here's thing the here proof that how much is using human shields, is that on a mazda is website, is what you say on the phone. how mazda. com is it? uh, we, uh pick 1010, i have a few minutes. you know that to give you those phone. yeah, i'm just asking what the evidence is because you haven't present any evidence. you just go to the masses website. i it is in your and suggesting it, well, how much is the website they acknowledge that they use human shields? that that's your argument. yes, yes, yes. okay. um i just, i, i only know i have no, but let me finish my arguments and then do whatever you want. ok. i then you go, how most websites, and for the last 10 years or was i see this flap the geez is to bring in the middle of the sentence in order for these writings. so just as matter civilians as close as possible and send the why we love this then. and then what we support say this is a strategy. and in addition, you know,
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in gaza they built this. you all show that i'm the wrong city on god. you're only by how much activities and how much columbus. no, let us do you need to see me. you can hide there. if it is true that a mazda strategy is to hide in the middle of civil society and surround themselves with civilians. if that is true, are you suggesting that you didn't have a right to attack them there, and indiscriminately killed civilians? on is not only case in which we know for sure. this is how many totes are. unfortunately, when we enter the target, unfortunately and resolve any intention civilians it died. so what i'm saying, so israel is now killed 30000 people over 12500 and those of those 30000 people are
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children. on average 10 children are losing limbs every day. and as a near starvation, there are several reports of people eating, grass, and animals the to survive. this is the reality. at the end of november, you said that you called don't think that the military can achieve its goals without doing exactly what they are doing today. now, now as we said here, now, as we said here in march of 2024 with 30000 did go 2 thirds of the women and children, 12500 kids that 10 children losing lives every day. these still believe it, the military is doing exactly what they have to be doing. no, no, no. i said just the military action on the if you asked me, we have to stop immediately as this is why, why do i do know that the reaction on the military goals,
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which we cannot you every day. why don't we go to the fighting? we are treating nothing because because of your money and your human instead of disaster, which is creating even given is not what we want. this is the intention of how much. and we are using this wall, not because we are noisy or the bottom. how does it last week? i'm able to do this. for example, when there are a 100 people or a 112 people were killed defenseless, effectively while waiting for a humanitarian, a truck, and is rarely, 4th is killed them even though they are not engaging in any kind of military action . how does what, how, how is that, how mazda is fault, and not just these really militaries. for me to stop this interview, it just to push a button. if you go, if we still go, i know you're willing to push a button. no, no, what i'm saying is under, under what circumstances i saw and under what circumstances, what is
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a modified of doing some of these actions? i'm just asking awesome. read to every interview, just like the war, and we have to abide by the rules. and my question for you is, when a 112 people are killed, thinking humanitarian a by, is really military forces. is that how mazda is part, or is that purely the fault of these really military? i'll give you an opportunity, answer. not each is the responsibility to know what it is, a human disaster. that's how much was that to be created. and we did not understand it and we are going on with the use of military power. what i'm trying to explain my view is that we have to agree with ceasefire immediately because we are noisy, the war of ideas. the 2nd, the motion of this war is the level for us. and in order to dispute how much we have to do so we need or what we can do in order for this month to it's
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really very power. and we should not go on doing what we have to do is to create the horizon as opposed to the horizon which all the world support. so the egypt, jordan, and the rates learned, oh is it out of state or sign or the other presented. zip . they zip how much will be depleted, how much will be defeated on your wishes, create it better, not your fault, but a scene. is it for you guys? now the moment that we should create a process that's going to bring us to where they react your space, how much is the page that you will not be supported by more than 15 percent of the students. and then you be able come us up days there we stay as
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a police because they know that i have no problems. this is my view. understood in december you spoke about how there are too many, what you call chaos agents in israel, whose political goal is to create a human disaster in guys that you call this radical and fundamental stating, quote, this is exactly the theology and the strategy of isis and of al, tied to how are these k us agents in your estimation? you're just the pool, some soft is where they put additional. and so i can tell you that via and smoked region, just eating know goldman, i totally disagree. reason. unfortunately, these are elected. unfortunately, they brought us this disaster existing. well, this is exactly what,
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how much expect it is. this is why the celebrating as this is why they are getting support to buy more and more for the students, and more and more people in our states that makes that makes it so. so from your perspective, it's not been to be met benjamin netanyahu. all this whole cohort of people are advancing or kind of extreme is city ology design to create humanitarian disaster. i. by the way i, you mentioned that, you know, i don't seem to, this is what you wanted, but to use it created a partnership and you do not. you do not control scholarship, right. and are or is this problem is this extreme is coalition guiding the policies of israel? yes. and are they being successful in guiding the positive israel and persuading? nothing else up to now? yes. okay, so you said that just so i got this right. there are extremists who are guiding the policies of israel towards humanitarian disaster in guys that these people are
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successful and intentionally creating humanitarian disasters in gaza. and yet when i ask you more, it is a little responsible for humanitarian disaster. the say, no. do you see the contradiction there? you said you said the guiding him successively towards creating humanitarian disaster. and then i say, hey, there's a humanitarian disaster and you say it ain't our fault. please explain the contradiction. the contradiction is just how much is responsible to this disaster and we are stupid, you not to have to. okay, this is the way i explain it. okay, this, this is a 3 mile from us. and we do not understand it from the very beginning. and we often surprise, unfortunately, but a studious, studious offerings the price because we not understood that this is
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a 3 month from us. and in addition, we were a lot because after the service of october, we had to go to war against time us. and this is the result. so you believe that the problem here is that these really government at this stage has fallen into her mouth as trapped by exactly right. exactly. so falling into her mazda track doesn't absolve you from your responsibilities and international law. it doesn't absolve you from the crime genocide of either the number of any of the natural law. the 1st thing, sir, man, i have to do something you do not understand what juno started this point about. what's inside of what we've done is i do general side, is that people in the whole or in part, in a whole lot in a whole or in part by international, in a home or in part based on a racial ethnic pool or national identity. that's going to international law and we
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are getting one percent of the child population guys has been killed at least one out of $75.00 guys has been killed. we do not test. it will be the students. we have to what was, how most particularly palestinians l. our generals are saying again and again and again, we have to ever see in all the incentives because this is not all. so just to use your example, if, if the, if the commanders are saying do everything, you can not to hit civilians and a 112 civilians are killed while waiting for humanitarian aid on arms. and by all accounts and not at all, confronting is really military who's responsible. i ask you again. first of all, it was a huge reason. if you ask me z, we try to bring you many target 8 for the never seen and exist on board was attacked by people the
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most. any good to me. it was a huge problem, a huge mistake and i hope that we shall not doing it. it was the military, it was, it was the idea of some mistake. you're saying it wasn't even understood. it gets a little bit because are there any other things that was nobody's thoughts. i'm glad you've already moved on. that's the reason why i'm saying, you know, i appreciate you say i appreciate you saying earlier in interviews have something different. so i'm, i'm glad that we have clarity now that it was their fault when you, since october is this case. yeah. the most, amc, i said was, what was it, how was it? how mazda is what you said? it's not anyone's fault. the case. okay, what's, what's your, that's fine. well, we don't to put well the audience and we'll see for themselves. i'm new called for the release of jail palestinian leader of motor one. but i'm deep which is also one of the current demands of him. as you said, that this would create the conditions for meaningful negotiations. from anybody who
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is viewed as their nelson mandela in recent polls suggest that he will be a prime candidate to lead if he were released and they were open elections. right. do you believe it has released can lead to more diplomacy or a way for it in the conflict? i've seen just the process that i see is in the military operation. we just use fire and getting, bringing back or the hostages and raising all day. but i see the prisoners that we have to really get ahold of what jesus did and was hearing believe what i'm afraid of that. um, is that zip i've seen here we go to elections, we out the political horizon. and i hope that when we should create a party to go to resin, which would be supported by or the world america. so during the or the states,
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a way to be released on exam there we go to elections and the way i understood the policy and the societies they didn't vote for uh, for murder on the 20. and the would you believe he's not how much he's not the most active you believe in the states you float? because he did not believe that we should do 1st thing in the states unless there was like. so whether he was right or wrong, i know discussing it. now this is the story we didn't stay doing also, but a student, the mistakes all across the states, as the responsibility is sure, i'm trying to discuss the future as this is why i see that when it was a really to raise it and what, but his name is with go to elections. you should be really. you should be a company that is or what i understood posting. is there any volkswagen,
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