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examining the issues of 6 and the 4th of athletics at this critical moment in the country of history. begin beautiful. coming soon on august, the after 5 months of drills, brutal bombing campaign and siege on gaza that is still more than $30000.00 palestinians. and seen israel facing a case of genocide at the international court of justice. negotiations continued and a cease fire may be image, but even if a ceasefire is reached, what happens next? will there be account ability for the war crimes committed as the former commander in chief of these really navy informer, director of israel, secret service army, iowa, and then upfront the i mean a yellow and thank you so much for joining us on upfront. take you month as we record negotiations for a ceasefire in guys, a continue to advance of
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a mini are asking even if there were to be a ceasefire. what happens next? now you've stated that you hope is rarely, society will demand and i quote security democracy and in end to be as rarely occupation of the palestinian territories because the 3 are inseparable. but this idea strays quite far from prime minister benjamin netanyahu, whose intentions, which currently suggest taking indefinitely control over the security and civilian affairs of guys it, uh, how do you respond to prime minister netanyahu has plan? you know, i look to respond to other than you know, because this is the beauty of democracy. i represent myself. i just want to present these are the people many of these ladies. i agree with me, but uh, as long as the prime minister, as much as i don't like it, uh, the present state of view it. so i'm gonna go see id read. nothing. yeah,
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i'm telling what i believe in. i hope this is way at least we listen. i hope the world really some of your audience for example. and finally, since it is a democracy, i hope that we shouldn't have elections as soon as possible. and then they like people vote um for uh, for another reader. i guess my question is why do you disagree with prime minister netanyahu? you said you don't like it. what don't you like about his plan? okay, let me go back, elizabeth, and to start uh with trying to explain. uh, performed people um the way we understand the reality in the middle east and um they usually point of view uh on the status of the builder. uh, i think that the experience, something that we couldn't imagine that ever we should face now why it is so
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important to stop with this. because you have to understand is that we went to a war and the way we understand before is adjust or but uh, even adjustable must and because more should never be. and the goal of it says, is mighty discussion or debate. oh, why this is a uh, the reason why i do not agree with nothing. yeah. oh, is it uh, the way i understand him. you do not heavy intent. you don't have any intent to. and just for, for him off, it is a kind of an endless war. another idea when i speak about this war, when we fight, um, how much we choose uh, at the meant the least organization. and i am not c or the part of students are the
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say, but how much cause ation, you know, way it is a totally different that before we are parting on to the mentions. one is or the military bottom. on the part of the 3rd. yes, it is a military war, but the, as the most important to mention is a war of ideas. and what i claim you use if you don't have to defeat how mouse is not enough for this month, the is meaning, meaning every couple ability is probably to cutting this as this is what we're doing. but i've seen that the war must. and today, when you, when you talk about an in to the war, one of the things that isn't yahoo is talked about in addition to the actual military engagement is the question of a palestinian state. he's saying a very explicitly at this point that a palestinian state is a non starter. i totally disagree. uh we just have to go
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and um, just to support my view. uh, i see that in this case, you know, uh on the road is me. if you listen to the american boys, your band boys, all the out of state and all the most of the states will sign for the piece you use, your i see is up on the run and it's, you know, he's by law. how much is that? what you did not sign within the 1st do we do? we do the arrow bins and most award. and if you listen to russia and china or they won't accept the future of 2 states, the only realistic view in order to bring that to this concert. so on at the job, unfortunately, is where the government today do not accept the question because it raises an interesting point about international consensus. you, you say that the world,
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the dominant majority of countries around the world, the arab states, europe, etc, are all calling for 2 states. there's a, there's a similar consensus around the globe that israel has committed war crimes. there is a similar international and global consensus that is real has contravene international law. uh, do you accept what, what consensus on those issues as well? no, i don't. why i don't. and i started, i started by saying, 1st of all, is it just more? and when we tried to on the, i'm not making it just just to be clear, i'm making a distinction between what you're calling sort of the, the inputs is for the war and the actual practices within the, in the war. there are some people who might agree with you with the war, but say in the practice of war, because 20, you know, 30000 people have been killed because 2 thirds of those people are women and children because we can even conventions have been violated by you know bombing,
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mosse and in schools and hospitals will be because we don't practice. so many civilians have been indiscriminately targeted that perhaps even if one were to except that the war itself was just as a, as a mission. but in practice it's still violated. so many laws, why do you think international consensus is, is, is so i the, i don't, i don't see that the international concerns. i think that this is a view of the street in many places. but i don't think that this is a view of most of the lawyers, the international know you have to understand that i have the right, a laptop. every target use it is done. and i have to, i have to explain to me something about uh, is it what, why is it working? god, you still probably monday because it is the 1st oh the 305 d which use it so populated area. and there is no
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way plus tax in the gym. i thought it was out to me unfortunately, without any intent. serious, this is the one reason. the 2nd reason, let me ask you what your 1st or even before you jump to the 2nd reason. again, even if one were to accept your argument, that is, that casualties are inevitable in war that the okay. and this international law does not suggest or does not allow for you to indiscriminately kill civilians. it does not a lot. it does lives. it does not absolve you of your responsibility to make sure that somebody is or evaluated from a hospital for 4 or 4 years. and then, and then finally, then i want to get your response to this. and then also, you know, you say these are legitimate military targets, but when you, when you blow up a hospital or when you, when you destroy a school or a mass, these are not the military targets as such. and the only way they will become military targets is if they were to lose that status. and to date there's been
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almost no evidence presented by the state of israel that these targets have lost their status, their protective status, that they are legitimate military targets. and even if they were, because how mazda is in there, you still have to evacuate civilians. you stuff that gives them being time to get away. if the billions don't leave, you don't just get the blow up the place because they, they civilians haven't left a home or records you can't for example. um, what do you make? sure? what is the question? my question is, what do you, what do you make of the geneva conventions and all these other international legal statues that make it very clear that you don't have the ability or the right to blow up the houses of worship, or hospitals or schools, simply because you believe that a must agent may be in there without taking proper measures, and without making sure that the billions are protected. i don't. okay. i heard you . i don't see if i, i not sure that you. if you read, you know, the facts we saw as a respect, it is not that we believe that's how boss is using it. it is because
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we know it. and we've presented real. real evidence in every case is the case of moss, is a case of hospitals which we do not a dock by the way. so what i'm trying to explain is at 1st was ever in which is, this is how boss the organization or what we called the bottom it can. garza is using the civilians as a human issue. i'm not inventing it, you just have to go to the internet at the what, what, whatever, whatever it is. and you haven't, that's there. because today are actually no evidence presented. it's pretty heavy. this go on my website for the last 10 years, the mazda website. how much the website is saying that here's thing the here proof
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that how much is using human shields? is that on a mazda is website, is what you say on the phone, how much dot com is it? uh, we, uh, pick 1010. i have a few minutes, you know that to give you those phone. yeah, i'm just asking what the evidence is because you haven't present any evidence. you just go to the masses website. i it is, and you're suggesting that well, how much is the website they acknowledge that they use human shields? that that's your argument. yes, yes, yes. okay, um i guess i, i only know i have no, but let me finish my arguments and then do whatever you want. ok. i then you go, how most websites, and for the last 10 years or was i see this flap, the jeez, is to bring to the lab for the middle of the sentence. in order for these writings soldiers to you as matter civilians as close as possible. and send the war, we love this then. and then what we support say this is
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a strategy. and in addition, you know, in gaza they built this. you all show that i'm the wrong city of god. you're only by how much activities and how much columbus. no, let us do you need to see me. you can hide your if it is true that a mazda strategy is to hide in the middle of civil society and surround themselves with civilians. if that is true, are you suggesting that you didn't have a right to attack them there and indiscriminately killed civilians? on not only case in which we know for sure that many tardies are. unfortunately, when we meet anybody target, unfortunately, and resolve any intention civilians it died. so what i'm saying, so israel is now killed 30000 people over 12500 and those of those 30000 people are
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children. on average 10 children are losing limbs every day. and as a near starvation, there are several reports of people eating, grass, and animals the to survive. this is the reality. at the end of november, you said that you called don't think that the military can achieve its goals without doing exactly what they are doing today. now, now as we said here, now, as we said here in march of 2024 with 30000 did go 2 thirds of the women and children, 12500 kids that 10 children losing lives every day. these still believe it, the military is doing exactly what they have to be doing. no, no, no. i said just the military action on the, if you asked me, we have to stop immediately. as this is why, why don't you know that the reaction on the military goals,
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which we cannot you every day? why don't we go to the 5 d? we are shooting nothing. because because of your money in your unit, instead of disaster, which is creating event is not what we want. this is a function of how much and we are losing this wall, not because we are noisy on the bottom. how does it matter because of this, for example, when there are a 100 people or a 112 people were killed, defenseless effectively are waiting for a humanitarian, a truck, and is really forces killed them even though they are not engaging in any kind of military action, how does what, how, how is that, how mazda is fault, and not just these really militaries. for me to stop this interview, it just to push a button. if you go, if we still go, i know you're willing to push a button. no, no, what i'm saying is under, under what circumstances i saw and under the circumstances, what is
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a modified of doing some of these actions? i'm just asking awesome. read to every interview, just like the war, and we have to abide by the rules. and my question for you is, when a 112 people are killed, thinking humanitarian a by, is really military forces. is that how mazda is part, or is that purely the fault of these really military? i'll give you an opportunity answer. no, it is a responsibility to know what it is that you really don't have disaster. that's how much wanted to be creative. and we did not understand it and we are going on with the use of military power. what i'm trying to explain my view is that we have to agree by ceasefire immediately because we are noisy, the world of ideas. the secondary motion of this war is a level 5 years. and in order to dispute how much we have to do so we need or what we can do in order for this month. and it's really very power. and we
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should not go on doing what we have to do is to create the horizon as opposed to the horizon which all the world support. so the egypt, jordan, and the rates learned, oh is it out of state or sign or the present is your zip. they zip how much will be depleted, how much will be defeated on your wishes create. it does not your fault, but a scene. is it for you right now? the moment that we should create a process that's going to bring us to where the reality of states, how much is the paint that you will not be supported by more than 15 percent of the students and the from us up days there will stay as
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a political minority, i have no problems. this is my view. understood in december you spoke about how there are too many, what you call chaos agents in the israel, whose political goal is to create a human disaster in guys that you call this radical and fundamental stating, quote, this is exactly the theology and the strategy of isis and of l k to grow are these k us agents in your estimation? you're just the pool, some soft is where they put additional. and so i can tell you that via and smoked region, just saving all goldman. i totally disagree. reason. unfortunately, these are elected, unfortunately, they brought us this disaster as this was, this is exactly what,
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how much expected. and this is why the celebrating as this is why they are getting support to buy more and more for the students. and more and more people in our states that makes that makes it so. so from your perspective, it's not been to be met benjamin, that's in yahoo. all this whole cohort of people are advancing or kind of extreme is city ology, designed to create a humanitarian disaster. i. by the way, i, you mentioned that, you know, i don't think this is what you wanted, but to use it created a partnership and you do not. you do not control scholarship, right. and are or is this problem is this extreme is coalition guiding the policies of israel? yes. and are they being successful in guiding the positive israel and persuading? nothing else up to now? yes. okay, so you said that just so i got this right there are extreme is hor, guiding the policies of israel towards humanitarian disaster in guys that these
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people are successful and intentionally creating humanitarian disasters in gaza. and yet when i ask you more, it is a little responsible for humanitarian disaster the, you know, do you see the contradiction there? you said, you said the guiding him successfully toward creating humanitarian disaster. and then i say, hey, there's a humanitarian disaster. and you say it ain't our fault. please explain the contradiction to the contradiction. is that how much is responsible? does this disaster? and we are stupid, you not to have to. okay, this is why i explained, okay, this, this is the 3 most from us. and we do not understand it from the very beginning. and we often surprise, unfortunately, but a studious, studious offerings the price. because we do not understand that this is the remote
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from us. and in addition, we were a lot because after the service of october, we had to go to war against time us. and this is the result. so you believe that the problem here is that these really government at this stage has fallen into her mouth as trapped by exactly right. exactly. so falling into her mazda tract doesn't absolve you from your responsibilities and international law. it doesn't absolve you from the crime genocide of either the number of any of the natural law. the 1st thing, sir, i have to do something you do not understand what juno started this point about. what's inside of what we've done is i do general side, is that people in the whole or in part, in a whole lot in a whole or in part by international, in a home or in part based on a racial ethnic pool or national identity. that's going to international law and we
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are getting one percent of the child population guys has been killed at least one out of $75.00 guys has been killed. we do not is it will be the students we have towards how most, but you're counting palestinians l our general us, i say again and again and again, we have to ever see in order not to get serious because this is not all. so just to use your example, if, if the, if the commanders are saying do everything, you can not to hit civilians and a 112 civilians are killed while waiting for humanitarian aid on arms. and by all accounts and not at all, confronting is really military who's responsible. i ask you again. first of all, it was a huge reason. if you asked me z, we try to bring you many sorry for the never seen and exist on board was attacked by people the
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most. any good to me. it was a huge problem, a huge mistake and i hope that we shall not doing it. it was the military, it was, it was the idea of some mistake. you're saying it wasn't even understood. it gets a little bit because are there any other things that was nobody's want, so i'm glad you. i'm glad you removed on the inside. you know, i appreciate you say i appreciate you saying earlier in interviews have something different. so i'm, i'm glad that we have clarity now that it was there for when you since october is this case. yeah. the most, amc i said the most part was it, how was it, how much the spot and you said it's not anyone's fault. the case. okay, what's, what's your, that's fine. well, we don't to put well the audience and we'll see for themselves. i'm new called for the release of jail palestinian leader of motor one. but i'm deep which is also one of the current demands of him. as you said, that this would create the conditions for meaningful negotiations. from anybody who
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is viewed as their nelson mandela in recent polls suggest that he will be a prime candidate to lead if he were released and they were open elections. right. do you believe it has released can lead to more diplomacy or a way for it in the conflict? i've seen just the process that i see is in the military operation. we just use fire and getting, bringing back or the hostages and releasing all day. but i see the places that we have to really get ahold of what jesus did. and was he ready to believe? what i'm afraid of that? um is that zip i've seen here, we go to elections, we out the political horizon. and i hope that when we should age 40 to go to rise in which would be supported by over the world america. so
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during the i or the states, a way to be released on it, then there we go to elections and the way i understood the policy and the societies they do vote for uh, for model and the and the model. but would you believe he's not the how much he's not the most active you believe in the states you float? because he did not believe that we should do 1st thing in the states unless there was a fight. so whether he was right or wrong, i know discussing it. now, this is the story we didn't stay doing also, but a student didn't state farm across the states as the responsibility is sure. i'm trying to discuss the future as this is why i think that when it was a really to raise it and what, but his name is with go to elections. you should be really, you should be a company that is there way. i understood those 10 is there any volkswagen?
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mr. i alone? i appreciate your time. i look forward to talking to you again soon. well, look to soon, but thank you very much. take care. everyone that is our show upfront. we'll be back next. the the
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condition of a thing so she needs this, you know, this is the sort of female surgery and not a week and of course the spirits in the face of a dis a bond committee can you see and then i move to me the
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performance to try and meet a domestic audience with the elections around the corner. the un criticizes the bite and administration's plans to build a temporary port off the coast of gaza to facilitate a delay of the time so that it's good to have you with us. this is elsa 0 live from the whole. so coming up today is really strikes destroyed palestinian homes and southern and central gaza victims are being run.

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