how much is the rebuilding going to cost and who pays from global markets? and economies of small businesses have just started seeing inspection coming down and how it affects the lives? how big a problem is global food insecurity? counting the cost? oh no, just the of us intelligence agencies has concluded, a mass cannot be destroyed a quarter. a movie is randy prime minister benjamin netanyahu has most of this on the slogan, garza. so why does the u. s. continuing to israel to fight to war? it doesn't police can be one. this is inside story. the color that on chang space is,

or i will face all resistance for my mass for years. and the groups boss, tunnel network and gossip won't be destroyed. in addition is rarely prime minister benjamin netanyahu, whose viability is elidah, is in jeopardy as this is paul, right? coalition government, not the comments. so for mass palestinians or opponents of israel. but instead, the view of the us intelligence services, the war, nothing yahoo is on least since the mass attack on october. the 7th is killed and maimed more than a $100000.00 palestinians, and destroyed the false ways of casa. yes, a mass and its allies continue to fight back. so if the intelligence community of israel is closest ally doesn't believe in the coal aims of the military offensive, why is the us to provide it with money and weapons? and with his predictions that nothing yahoos, governments could collapse. what does this report indicate about the current state of us is randy relations. we'll discuss all of this with all panel of gas shortly. but 1st, and we can kinda has more details on what's in the report. israel will not destroy

him us. that's according to a us intelligent assessment of global threats. it states as route, we're probably face lingering resistance from us for years to come. and the minute treat will struggle to destroy its network of underground tunnels and garza the money so it's likely not well, it's really prime minister. netanyahu wants to hear. he has repeatedly stated the total elimination of the group is this ultimate a window for we must destroy the remaining come us, but dinings and rough us. if not, if not, come us. when we grew rearm and we conquered guys up. and then we're back to square one. but netanyahu's premiership isn't secure either. the report predicts major protests demanding his resignation of new elections with the

possibility of a more moderate government taking power. but when nothing y'all here and us intelligence officials may agree, israel's more on goals or trends to become a broader regional conflict. now having lasted for more than 5 months, the guy's a conflict. his world, the middle east with renewed instability, presenting new security paradigms and humanitarian challenges while pulling in a range of actors. the conflict has prompted new dynamics, even as it has entrenched old ones. and at risk of increasing economic fragility, even in countries not directly involved, covering tourism in jordan and egypt, for example, as well as globally and solidarity would come us humans, duties are attacking ships in the red sea. a major maritime star event causing disruptions to deliveries and costs worldwide. the involvement of the who tease which impact by iran underscore is the potential for whitening conflict. us forces

in the region have also been targeted. although the report completes packer on did not have probably knowledge of how a mazda is october. the 7th attack on israel is relations between nothing you all who enjoy the button become increasingly strained. fonts, a dining assessment, these ready prime minister may make things was the crisis has galvanized violence by a range of actors around the world. and while it is too early to tell, it is likely that because a conflict will have a generational impact on terrorism. but for the people of goals of the war is already had a devastating impact image and came out to 0. the inside story that's bringing a panel of guests to discuss this further in boston and then calls for more than 20 years and the kindest on services of the c i a and is now us national security and foreign policy specialist. in london, you'll see medical book as an associate fellow with the middle east and north africa program at the u. k. think tank chatham house and here in doha tunnel

commute is the assistant professor of public policy at the doe institute for graduate studies, is specializes in conflict resolution and international aid, a real team of experts. thank you, and welcome to the program. well, this is the report that we're going to be talking about, and i'd like to read what i think is one of the key quotes from it is, well, we'll probably face lingering resistance from our mass. we used to come, and the minute tribble struggles to neutralize the masses, underground infrastructure which allows insurgents to hide, we gain strength and surprise is riley forces talking about what is your reaction to that? not just as a specialist in the field, but as a palestinian who comes from gauze a generous. um, i think we're starting to have some logic in some sense coming from from, from the americans. and i don't, i don't have to explain why. i mean, look at how this, i must emerge as a resistance, minute to the movement inside by this time i'm not designing probation. i'm the

product is weight information. and when these are the control of the guns and even when the when, when the, when the piece of process the took off in 1994. and then we have also is 40 percent of the guidelines to different animals like to give so many supplements. dropping those into 3 pieces of land and also the the security wise and how much the config storage was, how much in the information. so the either of the realtor buying the goes, but if i gain something to get a bit, of course this item is describe the most thing. how much as we can think of abilities, all of them on the, on the long term. but it's not been time us as an adult, easy as an idea of the moment. but do you measuring again and again, because of the terms of the past. so that's the only path for the piece. so to set

is going for more properties that be on o, y, a bit of august. i've done it before, isabel and they at each went to the very top piece. what the beautiful, how much is the, it's not going to go anywhere because it's a mainstream political, but it's gonna be, it's an idea of scientology. and how much is that sense in this context, this outcome of the need of is what i do to patient. and the only way for is that i am to and this one is doing each piece not with, with the piano i don't have access with, i think often there's a way to do it to get the dimensions with, especially by the americans. meaning also from the perspective and i realized that this was full of a lot. i didn't bring lots of them as. busy of, of the stage and the officials mode of, of, of mass getting to the seniors. holfer's mom in an easy position. so i think in these moments critical moments where basically they realize what the americans

wrote. but actually i'm thinking that they cannot get to know how much, how much also revising whether it's medically tactics. it's got the gps that i'm going through with this, with tactics before then. but maybe that's something to do for the medical, some sort of being for the being was i'm going to have an end this morning thing, p. okay, time of that and that's bringing plan. um, with that point that you just raised that it's time for the us to support the idea of a c spa, the us, the only country around the un security council table by using is because it's preventing that c spa. glenn, if i'm ass comp, be destroyed, if that goal is unattainable, why is the us administration to still allowing israel to pummel garza? as well as the working title of my book, which is about the terror terrorism of the cold war on terror? a number of years ago was victims of delusion. that title was changed for secondary

reasons, but the, the, the title is apt to the intelligence community has the easier job in creating, in the process of government skin. and that job is the expression you will, you will have heard is to speak truth to power. so it's not as a, uh, a discovery or a change in the assessment to the intelligence community in the united states to say that a conventional military attack on the all g or a, they're political idea or a cultural view point and can't, cannot succeed. yeah, this, however, the, the intelligence community does not make policy. and there are significant elements in the power structure in the government and the political process. that simply don't believe that a conventional military methods are almost irrelevant or actually make matters

worse when dealing with a fundamentally political and cultural issue. and so that's why, broadly speaking, the truth is almost there, relevant, where the facts are almost irrelevant to the power struggles or to support their convictions that are not based on facts but, but, but get planned on that. i mean we, we get this public intelligence, this report that we just seen. but these are the same intelligence agencies that are feeding information to the senior us leaders every single day. the us present, get somebody call the presidential daily brief, present, buying really not. he's been told this for weeks months, maybe since october, the 7th. oh, i'm sure. well not just as october the 7th, very. how about for the last of the 50 years? yeah, i think that is true and i and i, i do not know by and personally didn't work under him or meet with him, but i will get my retirement. so on the fact that he assesses

understands the presentations and assesses the the realities on the ground and gaza in the same way that he has slowly been trying to increase the pressure as periodically happens in the us system on israel. but the fact is that the crude party in the right wing of the quick party, the ultra orthodox parties that are aggressively pursuing the settlements in the west bank, the drive the policy. i do not mean to imply what people often believe, which is that there is some sort of dark cult uh, or jewish lobby, making the decisions but the political, the in the united states. but the political dynamics are such that it is difficult for the republicans in particular. but the american political system to the

pressure is real show much that they would implement policies that everyone recognizes as the necessary or effect based y'all. so you could let me bring you in, and of course we want to know your view of these really perspective as someone who analyzes these ready position plus the we go back to the 11th of october, the minister defense, you'll have guidelines, and we've got so many quotes so i could choose like this one we, we'll wipe this thing called a mouse. i says garza of the face of the it will cease to exist. you've heard what thomas says. you cannot defeat an idea. do you think the senior is riley, won't cabinet, and others do believe they can destroy him ass complexity as well? had the to option either. so it's, this is full public, public consumption, domestic, public consumption. although the notion and they say no, no, i do not do sales. these are they, these are leading to us that the defense who knows the policy in an interest in the

american interested in this case and it hence. and so that the, the assessment, i think the, the action and one can understand and go off the october 7. but the governments for this policy, so this strategy and instead the feed, they are low as you know, before age and, and in almost the vision by, by revenge instead of thinking straight towards his achievement. but i think to the point to start, the most important thing for me is the point of the if the one to the feet from us is actually to make you to politically. i know logic is relevant and full and suggest and also the palestinian. and those penalties, as was also there to be a peaceful solution, the 2 state solution, something that because a toll full but a stain in but by feeling loved instead of 2000 probably stain in saying in guys uh most of them uh civilians, children as well this is not something that was separated between

a month and an end up, and the rest of the, of the, of the polish stain is and this we, so there is an increase in supporting in from us. and i think is a, maybe it's too late for this government to we assess its aims which cause for a new government that actually can look at the day after the war and kite to reveal the relations we have with the police things which not based on a 0 sum game, which is not based on the, the old security valid. i'm the ok. you also get the, i talk general. i guess all those comments you made, the annual focusing on the current is ready the government. but the report also says, these really population proudly supports the destruction of home us. so if the bite and administration is hoping that nothing y'all, who will decide to bring the war to an end some day, very soon just by himself, with that backdrop, with this rating population that supports the destruction of hamas and doesn't support the 2 state solution. that's not gonna happen any time soon. is it?

so i think we need to set that up between the issue of supporting 2 state solution and the the destruction of from us. i think this is again, this is in the action to october the 7th. but if there is any population, i mean to cut it must be the same day and certainly population with also the to a peaceful understand that they've been, you'd see shifting the is that only a public public opinion we saw he's failed 2 years ago though of the times that no one wanted to speak to the piano in these i and it was the guy that is totally st organization and also changed it. unfortunately, it didn't types. it's one of them at the conclusion of space. so i think we need to and towing to a political process politic, public opinion can change if the changing of circumstances from well to piece. but for this you need new leadership. you move the new disclose to offend the society. and then i believe that we see it also public opinion. this is more susceptible to

it. they say this goes well, the way this report works that we're discussing, it comes out every year. and this report then, is debated in the senate senate intelligence committee and the intelligence treats have to answer questions in that senate intelligence committee. and they were pretty striking exchanges in that committee. listen to these questions, aust, by the senator tom cotton, the republican senator ex military officer who served in iraq and afghanistan. and this is of the questions he asked is israel exterminating the palestinian people? and senator, all i can say is do you know what i said before? so is that a no, you do not believe is realized exterminating the palestinian people? i think i think israel's, i understand israel's director haines. do you believe israel is exterminating the palestinian people? and i really don't have anything to add to what director, for instance, center, so time of your reaction to that there they will open about some things but and

also about all that as well. it's, it's so it's sort of supporting, james, i mean, i mean for good enough time and clear answer on this or i didn't, cindy, do you want this contract in this order is, has been more or less. i mean, we understand that. so how big was 711 from the us? 7 to 2, but as an image on days late in society. when the sunday, i think of that adventures with a lot of things just advise, nothing justifies. this is eunice are the last thing. i mean, the way it's be from talk to the targeting of civilians. yeah. it's, it's, i mean, i mean, i mean it's, it's, it's, it's the more we can, we have what we're watching on the basis. i don't think i think it's, i mean i know some people are going to send up the us the like the shoulder, the beginning contain and when that's the best the. but, you know, i mean,

the district stuff. no, because this has gone too far. and the, i mean, i mean, i hope this one wishful thinking behind the simple, not one the timing but for this. but for the same reason i make it understand that it's starting to end this. you come out that there's a backup, something new. it's called that as it it has been going on so far. let me remind you of you, what are some of yours or something, james? and when, when, when these are the withdrawal from the god, the set up in 2005, and then we have the connections. and then the, the complexity is that all of them, how much to boulder you're going to damage in the nation from 2006, then 2024. what's never seen is really is order or to interact with this ladies. i mean the, the, the week off of the see bought something else. is they the soldiers? i think the generation now she sold the houses and shrieked points and all,

and destroying every element of their lives. and this is hard to find sort of the, it's not the end of the story now. so what, what worked for us for students? what really met this now? is this the united nation that yes, i mean, even my sent for the use domain on the issue of resistance. lots of option a resistance. what's the zip resistance? what's that thinking and thought you might have this that's not the students i agree with from as the overall seems. i agree with that that comes with but you kind of collectively punishment entire nation the way it is or it is doing what has done and goes up on the side and the support this war entity. so let me, let me, let me bring in plan. now we heard that clip from the senate intelligence committee, this is the report. i think it's worth getting some context with you because you worked for 33 years in the c all. yeah, you worked in the field around the world doing secret stuff. i'm sure you can tell us about, but you also prepared previous versions of this report. this isn't just some snippets of intelligence information. this is the key report is yes,

it accurately reflects the consensus. no, there will always be varying opinions into watches, but it gives us the consensus of the intelligence community. so a lowest common denominator sometimes, well, you negatively will miss certain new us. however, the question that we heard was, on surprisingly political and objective and malicious, frankly, because it made a binary issue out of a terrible complex, the situation where the director of the d an i and of the c a couldn't really say a, in a setting in the, you know, hearing that there are the elements in the is really government that the, on the far right, the ones i leave it to before to would probably be very happy and they actively be seeking to re occupied. and in fact, they said it's explicitly reoccupied

a gaza and expel all the palestinians. the are in terms of the sort of information the is really go. yeah. kind in terms of the sort of informations that they will be transmitting to us leaders, intelligence information. they don't make public, they'll be all sorts of questions they can all so that we have suspicions about the they'll be able to talk about is really targeting and whether the really targeting civilian target says so many people, including rulings by the international court of justice. i'm making clear the so this, so the president biden is called say he doesn't know what was going on. county such a hard one to answer if, if there are reports that the united states, the obtains of whatever the origin data are considered reliable left is really government were or is targeting civilians. i am confident that that would be made public that that's

a factual issue. less subject to political interpretation and shading and so on. so i don't think that there's the information of that nature being withheld or papered over the political dynamics from the far right to the the central left and is really government. those things become fundamentally political and more delicate for a, an intelligence official to comment on. but the factual targeting issue that would come up you'll see in this report, it also talks about what the ron is doing. it says that it raining and lead as they assess, did not have full knowledge of the mass attack against is rather, it also talks about it. robin's road in lebanon, and iraq and syria, and in gavin, in the red sea. what i found interesting about that is it all comes in the report onto the goals are heading. normally the us administration tries to separate these not admit they are causes of because a will and nice things. now there is that there is a recognition that those,

all these issues are connected. now they have sometimes they'll, they'll, their own causes, the one disability if they, they, they signed by this time a conflict easily. so then that a space. but at the same time, if the, the, a, the, the issue is not the result as a result of different, it feeds into other conflicts. so we have this form from the fall of a, uh, even before saying that, you know, he has no knowledge of, of the 7 in, in, in advance. and it's in the same issue. but at the same time, there wouldn't try to tie that is was, and these are the ideas, as long as, as, as, as possible in these, no doubt, taking advantage by any plays it's, it's a loan game. also, boxes, you know, they'll to, a, to balance. it's, there is a button though for generally between these a and any of on,

and also to detail do like that states. but i think it's important to see that i'm not reserving these early by the same conflict as why the implication in the region and to be honest with the old plan in there a fault. there's also questions about the future of ness and yahoo and his father, right? government saying his viability of his colon coalition may be in jeopardy. and there may be elections and protests and coming coming. now that's, that's quite a political judgment as well as an assessment of a political issue. it's not taking sides in a, in a political manner, however, but it's going to close on ethical problem is it's going to cost political problems potentially. is it not that not going to like hearing that issue in, in, in the, in the next one. yahoo. com no, they will not. they will not. and, and i will also wager that the already z is really nothing to yahoo government is

taking actions to undermine the credibility of the people who may in united states . you reach this assessment for the political figures to agree with it or try work with it that that's, that's certain. yeah. no it's, it's not a good thing for the government to hear, but it's the fact that it would seem to me is pretty clear from the millions. it was rarely, as you have taken to the streets for years, but nothing yahoo, it is at best surviving. the because of the, the support of the far right. the only, that's it. you'll see in terms of relations between israel and the us. how damaging could this be given some of the comments we've had recently by president biden and prime minister netanyahu the if i may assess to say, you know, you don't need the intelligence assessment a to, to realize that the viability of that anyhow, government is dwindling rates enough to a public opinion polls one after another. and this, this would suffice as full as,

as sold intellectually to deal nighted states that then you always an ongoing damage to this relation. it became a liability. and the way the what was conducted became reliability. on this relations when president biden said they will hopefully call that as saying that, you know, if there is it, there is a need for a come to jesus conversation eh, talk with, with, with, with, and you know, is actually attending the funding. is that that's yes, they need the new leadership because the shape need to change that there is a need for you money to an a to enter, to enter the guys as soon as possible ending the quantities that, that can save doesn't paper for you money down disaster 10 now if i could, if i could have a final word from you, i. ringback do but begin to feel as a palestinian watching this,

that the truth is finally being spoken by some western leaders. for example, joseph burrell, the foreign policy, chief of the you said recently starvation is being used as a weapon of war. we've known that for months, but he's only saying it now just as this intelligence report is only coming up now briefly, please. a jim. yeah, i mean yes but, but again, we need more actions they need to, as the leverage change is, are, is behavior. if you're not me was leverage. if you don't know sanctions, if you don't lose, i don't know whatever you have on your menu. machine die payment is a government then it's just old, but it's dean has named it actions. i think everyone is shut off with a with that from this conflict that has gone from to me and they said it's kind of diminish. we'll get to the students and the other way at all. it was also so i think that is, i mean with all the sacrifices with all this love should. this is this, this culture could be an opportunity to bring it on

a piece for the 2 sides. if there is any of what i think then when it comes, then the whole, the car to you, i'm the then the, i mean, i mean it's the decision though it's under the, even though sign cute to all of all guess what? joining us today, let me call, you'll see medical book and time of comm mode, much more detail in context on israel's war on because it can be found on our website which is 0. don't come inside story. is your spotlight on global issues? where should we sign up showing on the spot like next time that it's not a post on our facebook page, that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha, inside story own messages on x. a handle is at a inside story for me, james, based on the team here in doha, stay safe. i'll see you very soon. the for a week to look at the world's top business stories. how much is the rebuilding

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