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policy you know forward, he's shaking off his leadership. present mahmoud abbas is named his financial advisor as the new prime minister. mohammed mustafah has ample experience in economics, but little in politics. the move has surprised many volumes is escalating in the occupied westbank of israel's war on garza shows no sign of ending so could disappointment shape. the future of the policy, you know, authority doesn't have enough backing from palestinians to move forward. we'll explore these and other issues with people of guests in a moment, but 1st this report from culture lopez hold a young he's a trusted financial advisor of posted in president must moodle boss. i think the need to now mohammed mustafah has been appointed as the new prime minister. this term begins at a crucial time and will include forming a new cabinet and reforming the palestinian authority. but as you know, if it's can do better in terms of fed a big deal with this thing,

but our institutions are providing but the governments so that we can unite our people in the next phase so that we can very unite together on the west bank and also prepare for the construction of guys with israel's war on garza washington has in terms of find as pressure on a boss urging him to restructure the poston in authority so that it can effectively take responsibility regardless that the so that the gaza and the west bank can be reunited under a palestinian leadership for years. the p a has phase. thank is asians of corruption, mismanagement and incompetence and its role within a 2 state solution framework has gradually seated with the look of height. the former palestinian prime minister resigned last month, citing escalating violence in the occupied one spank and a genocide in gaza. but his replacement is all very fielding criticism. in

a statement amongst us engaging and superficial subs such as forming a new government without a national consensus. only reinforces unilateralism and deepens division and there are many divisions among palestinian leaders. many of them only amplified by the war. the palestinian authority govern some areas of the occupied westbank, but coordinates with the is really military in accordance with the also accords. the ph relationship with homeless has been fraud, since it was pushed out of casa in 2007. there are differences between, you know, the c on functions that's very normal and you cannot really expect that all these different. and since you know, what is the result in one single meeting is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu has, on numerous occasions, rejected or limited the role of a post in, in a 40. well, i think uh, some analysts,

same stuff is appointment could be the 1st of many again that restructuring its governance from top to bottom. the other thing, katia lopez, what again i'll do 0 for inside story wish. and now let's discuss all of this without guess today, in a mom to honey, most of the senior pablo, sun analyst at the international crisis group. she specializes in conflict resolution here with me in the doha studio man. so schumann, canadian palestinian citizen journalist, who reported from gauze up between october last year in february this year and from ramallah in the occupied westbank, which owned by most stuff up. i'll go to the secretary general of the palestinian national initiative. good to see you, old. before we get onto the brand new, probably minister of the policy know store to i'd like to speak about the old one and the old government to honey explain to me, why did i well, how much that why did he and his government resign on february?

the 26th was that choice? well, i think it was uh, something certainly uh, not quite the choice, but uh, a necessity of trust on a given the fact that not only do you have a list, be the on song folding garza but also the ph legitimacy. i've been absent all time low. so it really, you know, in terms of the options available, there was very little the p. i have never been as long as they happen. and this isn't just something i've been out since the something to true, but this is something that the p a has been working with for the last couple of years now. even onto how much they are given the, the efficiency of governance, the increase in violence, the disconnect between palestinians on that. so if it's been effective and there needs you, they do not feel actually advocate to them on any political, meaningful level. the most stuff, if i can ask you, perhaps just now i'm going to ask you with your political have to is head of a party that in a moment. but 1st, if you could just help bob hughes,

who is mohammed most of just give us a background on him if you could well, i missed that most of the police to me and who used to work for the band quarter of a period of time. and then he came to palestine and he was appointed as uh, are you calling on regards vice president? and later he became uh the need the or the president of the palestinian investment fund, which he has to be in the inclusive attributes and the last decade. so it's fair to say he has good experience on the economic file. yeah, it is not political. i don't, i mean he presents himself as a techno cut out as a, as a to kind of come, i missed a motor than anything else. and he, i, according to my knowledge is not affiliated with the bus to come out or does it come by to you? but he works for the president who is the lead that will fight to have of course.

um, did he the be okay, well i want to get your political views on, on him in just a moment. but i also want to make clear what the of panel thinks palestinians will make of him generally up to you mountains. so you came back, i think from gaza. you would that for 2 years, you're not originally from gaza. your problem is originally from jerusalem. but stream 3 weeks ago, is that right? you came back from gallagher. i'm sure you're still in touch with people in gaza. what is the view that you're getting of this appointment? thank you for holding the enrollment. i'm about up to you and your guests. so even before, even i think it's just an appeal response on behalf of the americans requesting president our bus to put a new face in order as they move forward and trying to change their strategy towards trying to get to the back under the understanding authority and and the

piano um i think that the people and the ones that i now i do not think that this appointment would have any kind of positive impact on that humanitarian situation or the political situation on the ground. you have to understand that even start the inside, that stuff is divided 5050 between um the home. but between the what our bus and, and how about the headline who called at the resides in the we and i think that one reason why he was a point to this because he holds the keys to like conduct the bottle with. he said, you know, he folds the investment funds and he understands the economics. and if that is going to be id, but with them, because they think that they can utilize him as a techno cloth in the process of the building as a, as a new face level designer, steel. and i think again, this is part of the general american strategy towards that as a, whether it's through mandatory economics, politics, or even the social norms to honey. i would like to know what you as an analyst to

try is to take the temperature of people across the palestinian territories in gaza and the west bank. what do you think the feeling is on the streets? in response to this? i think the 16 is very much in keeping with us support for the flip side solution one, the office palestinians account increase or israel has been peddling for the last few years now is economic piece. so just let me do this. so did you think he's the he is the chosen us candidates, or is it just the us one to change and he is the change, the president, the boss has decided to put in place or do you think they actually specified him as the prime minister? what's your thoughts on that kind of thing? and leadership is not something that's entirely determined by the palestinians themselves. unfortunately, and often it will be israel and the us that will determine who those particular chosen candidates will be. and so, i mean, he sucks any someone that does kind of say clearly the us have consented to his

appointment and he's certainly someone here as mr. lucy and you know, there's a pointed out that he is someone who will centuries favor way between us. now i think the issue is not necessarily my list of, of i say it's what this appointment ultimately represents, which is uh, as i said, this is, you know, printer is seen as us support ridiculous. i solution one that says economic release of any substantial, effective political rights to palestinians under and, and political checking projects, securitized government. now, in terms of any drastic change that this can actually produce posting as an awful by directory can disclose coming on this, they know that ultimately, as i've asked remains head of state how it will be concentrated within the hands of the us to a sofa. so it's about say, so israel and his allies is he has a state to sounds, dr. almost all football gucci. thank you for taking off your political house at the beginning of the program. you can put it back on again. now you are the secretary

general of the product and you national initiative. and there was a statement from other key groups and factions, including your own. it's a statement from hamas islamic jihad, the popular from, from the breaks to palestine. i'm the palestine national initiative. i read it, it says for me, a new government without the national consensus is a reinforcement of a policy of exclusion and deepening of the patient explained to me why you are so opposed to this appointment when there is nothing good about it instead of the time of the stuff up there, so maybe it's not that good. some additional, the issue is about something larger than that. the question here is these changes out and response to the phone. what kind of the phone? there are totally forms that, that on the table here. one day for them is the american is the only one. and that one doesn't care about anything except to making the listing and also to, to remote acceptable to isn't it. and that means it's a good, it ties into the police to me and also to, to you've been fab though. and that means sustaining

a deposition on the status of the city and also the destruction within or slow process that was kind of the buyers that are in the ready. so it's a process on one side, but they want to keep the balance to me and establishment in that place. that's not the kind of thing for them. that's what you want. and it's not up to, is that a lot of united states to decide the least with the government assembly shall do with us. and in which way that the phone that we are demanding has 2 sides festival . at this very crucial moment when we are encountered, it goes through and when we faced the general side, didn't garza. and when we faced 10 of us, that evasion of the people and the destruction of infrastructure and even b o q patient, not the on the of the guys but west bank as well. we need the strong, dignified national leadership. the 1st step would be the establishment that if i only 5, but this thing i knew the trip is that should include on board at the conference is also out in the b. i know, and those a lot of still outside the piano and that was the essence of what we agreed about

as 14 different political groups in moscow and the most recent meeting, which is that everybody should get into the piano and this will create, i own a 5 nationally, the ship that sits stuck on the phone, but the people want is a democratic reform, not that security for them. as i medical ones, we are very surprised that the united states become of democracy ever do it accept and punished by and what people want is the collections that i those the people that need that it's really, i'm the practically something that we've been deprived to them since 20052006 the biggest problem we face here, it was the continuation of the student elections which should have taken place in 2021. because of this, we have no separation of boards. we have the, the executive structured as small executive structured input the show the system of new just not the of system as well as executive system that has to change that for

me want is democratic fee elections and separation of powers that's on democracy means everyone else in the world accepted by this time, what does that americans want? the strand secluded security ties structure that serves the interest of the palestinians, and that this will be the and in my opinion this, but i shudder from the united states as counter productive. and that is not the leading to a proper form. on the other hand, the public wants to see are unified processing the ship. they don't want to see this division continue between different forces between how much on site that they want to see the unified structure. they want to see a democratic structure. stuff showed up is capable of fighting any form of corruption or nipple doesn't go to clear on the list. this is what people want. and i think i want to position you is nothing about this, but so no, that is the position is about the need for a different system and a different approach. but i thought of them staying within that. i'm so what has been during the last 31 years. okay,

let's examine why perhaps the us don't want elections that i'm going to ask you what is rather ridiculous? hypothetical question right now, because clearly, garza is under a desperate situation on the palm. bob meant the, the, the, the forms continue to full and the westbank is on the, is really locked down. but i want to ask you one by one very quickly, what your view would be if it was possible to have elections right now. what would be the role result to honey? it would be an absolutely meaningless exercise if, if the functions like how much are not allowed to partake. yeah, yeah, but so honey. so honey, i'm asking the question, who is the most popular right now? what would be if there was conditions where you could have get the views of, of all of the palestinian people. how do you think the product and then you and people at this moment in time would devote i think it's still very from insure to

tell right now, you know it's happening because it's still work from a short to gauge what the actual physical examinations are. people on the ground, i think regardless of when the concept of free and fair elections at this moment in time, is something that is completely off the table and if it what took place, especially with the absence of console, which isn't no condition to be hosting elections but it would be a competing, meaningless exercise. and the way things done and be in touch with me and you already made it very clear that they would not accept any sort of trusting interactions right now. and he selections that they cannot create a time the results. oh, okay. so you didn't want to answer the question man, so i'm going to ask, put the question to you. you just come out of jobs that 3 weeks ago. okay, i'll put the question a little bit different late, right, that's like taking to up to honeys to on these cannot on so who is the most pop pull up political falls among palestinians right now. the definitely so um i'm originally from the west bank and i have family living and doris and the right. now

in addition to having family from my wife's side living in garza, i can tell you for a fact that others, teens will vote for the party that's willing to present them in the best way possible. palestinians are proud to people kind of standards of people who want a policy. that's what a government got to give them security. that's to give them a photo to definitely be able to give them economic structure. uh that's with unified them. so in my opinion, one of the reasons why elections, i'm not being held this because right now the p a in the way that the, what are the best and his people are willing. i'm not providing any of that either to the west bank or of course the guys are so definitely won't be there and it's caught and for me right now. so it will be one of the other parties for sure. would that be uh, how much or else wise talked about gucci or you would be accounted as if there were these hypothetical elections. but where do you think the support. ready lives right

now are within, we don't need to invent that. that's the clear to somebody didn't go with the buttons that have been done since 2020, and up to now. and if you take them all together, you will see that there is a clear attend tendency here. need that opened up by listing and thought this would be able to get the absolute majority. you know, we have a fully proportion of system which means to have that majority, you need 51 percent, i think. and i need to go to the elections that will take place. uh not, not saying good bye pick. i'm good. how much would it? it would be florida, this stick democratic system, but what, what the, what would happen? we could see an increase in the support of her mass for sure. and because of the room numbers assistance, but we wouldn't see upload on a stick democratic system. and clearly there is a substantial amount of people who want to vote for that they have said buffy sat in democratic align non for how much. and that is very encouraging, in my opinion,

totally below that a stick democratic system where most in good party has absolute majority will lead to the formation of questions will lead to democratic reform will lead to a powerful but listed in your logistic of guns in way out of the government has to be accountable to and i, i think that that is the expected results. and that is know that and those who don't belong to see but this thing is have it through democracy. those who want to impose the events on palestinians like also the, the mentors, impulses and police stadiums. in my opinion, don't want to see democracy because democracy means that anybody who negotiates on the, on behalf of other students have to listen to what the majority of palestinians want and that is sustaining. and the product, think about us to be on national rights to honie, the new prime minister when he chooses cabinets, and when he is fully in office,

he has a background. as an economist, the economy is in a desperate state. tell us how bad things are. well, the economy has been in a desperate state since the last couple of years now. so it's called the carpet. and so, yeah, it is, it is going to be quite a few, especially given now that you've, since the 13th of october, you've had the institution of an ex, what hasn't mounted to your effective economic siege on the west bank. and now the in terms of economic damage that has been selected as it again, it's still been very difficult to assess the full scale given restrictions on has meant that includes the various organizations. and i was like myself to actually go in and seriously assess the damage. but it, i mean, he is going to have quite a talk on his hand in trying to read you many of the palestinian economy, especially in the west bank given to a given the also since look to buy either prior to that we, we saw, you know, significant amounts of done as a t done to funding being pulled up the few years from 2017 off until 2023.

the published again for the to major down in the us and saw the radio. and, you know, we've, we've seen that even though they have tried to search for alternatives and use that still hasn't been able to make concepts or the loss of, of, of losing those 2 huge, substantial donations. now, in terms of what she start, she is again, we still don't know how he's going to be able to get things back on track. but you know, it is, it is going to be quite a task, especially while we continue to see the ongoing economics. the restrictions are freedom of movement and switching on the west bank, which is what has given no indication that it is for control of any time soon talk to most stuff or you oppose his appointment. but do you think perhaps given what you've just heard and you know it so well of the tone of fatigue that perhaps some of the donors might give some more money now because there's a new prime minister. so one to sort of re a lot as well. uh,

they might talk about that, but we don't see any actual input. and actually the international community at large is responsible for the continuation of the district, but it must have cut against. but the students, especially the united states companies like united states so which 10 does not vote for a complete on to don't seize fire. so data responsibility, not only is there and they have the level under complicit with it and, but they have to actually participate in some of this crime that is happening now about the future. look of the damage is so huge. we are talking here about the destruction of all universe. it is, is it a destroyed set at the hospital? i'll just go to the 6 that destroyed more than 100 attempts facilities. they destroyed more than 75 percent of people's homes. just admitted that the loss damage is been under the bed,

would require no less than $50.00 to $90000000000.00 would out of the countries are going to provide that. and that's why i see the huge challenge we face the fact that we are having to know 110000 palestinians couldn't do it. and that's 5 percent of the population. we have 20000 or from children because of this war. we have a total destruction of infrastructure. we have 1000000 people suffering from diseases which we are trying to have now to deal with that no single palestinian political thoughts government installation. it requires the unity of everybody. it requires that we own together in the one you and if i need to ship so that we can fit these, he was trying to mobilize also what they bought as possible to help our people afterwards. but the most engine, please, is 2 forces that are allowed to go, sir, we cannot do anything. go to be fair. i mean the thing,

go ahead and find anybody as long as it is the continued still good bye guys. or do you think that that technocratic government will be able to bush is that a lot of guys are all the kind of work and does that without the cooperation of the conferences there? of course it's impossible. that's why the 1st step would be the stablish mental $525.00, but it's taking a leadership and then the formation of the government has to be an option of consensus process. nobody wants to be in the government. it's not that the issue is about the government has to be accepted by all the others, so that they've done what a good was the power of the signal society, which has to practice a lot of sense for these items. a lot of sense organization and a lot of democratic participation in the life of the fact that so many of those have disappointed us. so many countries in the region on the outside, within the back to our suffering at this very moment. okay, you've talked about the importance of

a tech mcgrath across the government in terms of what happens in gaza months. so you've just come back from gaza. you are obviously watching things very, very closely. and it looks like that could be important developments that all cease far towards resuming yet. on the other side, you have a prime minister netanyahu sitting is finalize, the, the battle path plans for, for a rafa offensive. we don't know if this is a negotiate employee. what are people telling you in garza that you've been speaking to about how worried they are at this moment in the the month of ramadan? if you look at the recent history of the over the last few months, uh, very similar events happened before. the invasion of different cities across was us to the people in the plaza are extremely worried that off wouldn't be invaded, and that they would be forced to leave it as a step by force into the egyptian border. and to enter the exemption of the area. hence another repeat of 19481967. and this situation that

is critical uh from, from hold perspective. um, i think the dock sort of stuff and, and mr. honey gave a lot of numbers about how bad things are there and you'll continue to the 4th one . this 247. and if i was a member of the european union or someone in the americas, i would have seen that i have put billions of dollars off investments into infrastructure, into trying to build the values of democracy and human rights into the population. and the over the last decade fall now gone into the wins and robins because of the way that the americans and is there any is have access to them because i don't think there is a trust anymore with the people as a given any new government that has come up in west bank and we need to like the guest said elections, we need 3 unity for. we need people that's accurate to, to present that. but a scene in people and the free people, freedom loving people at large in the world. everyone is watching and what is

happening now and the is going to change history. the question is, what is it going to happen over the next couple of weeks when an immediate permanency is why it happened with throwing day? was there any forces or was that off and vision happen? let's see. thank you very much to all 3 of you for joining us for today's conversation on inside story to honey, most of the month. so schumann, i'm most stuff i think about gucci, which is 0. it has teams reporting from gauze of the occupied westbank and inside israel will have the latest news and developments 24 hours a day for analysis and detail, and go to our website, which is 0 dot com. we want your views to find us on facebook. facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story, or use x the form of twitter, where we're at a inside story from the team here. and so how please stay safe on james face. i'll see you soon. bye bye. for now the,

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