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so media platform, cruise, these court challenges over the issue of freedom of speech. but before that this would have to pass the senate with detailed coverage. people here come from places where this whole nice, nice, the full health services a close that comes off from the food from around the world. now migrants rights advocates are taking the federal government to court, saying it has failed in its duty to care for migrants including children, gaza facing fan in israel's genocidal assault continues after 5 months of slaughter, mostly with western supplied weapons. international pressure has amounted to little more than words, so what can bring causes suffering to an end? this is inside, stored the
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hello and welcome to the program and serve any a as israel's brutal war continues and checked guns. as 2400000 people now face the imminent risk of famine. one of the world's most densely populated areas has been reduced to medieval conditions by is really a tax and cruelty. its forces have killed almost 32000 people and wounded 74000. the injured and named rely on the health system. it's either destroyed or under direct attack. those who have managed to survive, no face immediate danger from starvation and disease. with only a trickle of supplies reaching, garza destroyed water supplies and sanitation systems, meaning everyone is at risk of infection. meanwhile, the united nations discusses resolutions. western leaders wring their hands and appeal for restraint. despite some having supplied israel with vast quantities of weapons being used to destroy gaza. so what can stump israel's leader, benjamin netanyahu and his government genocidal war? how much time is left for the people? have gaza?
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will be discussing all this and more with our guests and just a few moments 1st though, this reports from michael socially the daily struggle for survival for the millions and jordan is, was booms and, but it's a mean the date is the most, some can hope for 5 months, if it's reads, relentless bombardment has left 1100000 palestinians hoffe of cause us population facing catastrophic levels of hunger as well as leaving me at the goss. this trip is dying slowly, if not from the missiles, then from hunger, if not from hunger, then from dehydration. in northern dosa, there's virtually no food available. when animal bowed feed has run out families the pounds to survive. you and back for both says simon, is imminent. you for them policy chief joseph brand has accused as well of creating the conditions plus toleration and using it as a weapon. no, for nga,
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we on no long island on the bidding of, i mean, we are in a state or funding affecting housing of people as well. is provoking for me they just unacceptable. starvation is used as a weapon or will yes, this database shouldn't as use as a weapon on. well, let's, let's say that or not the question. also like with physicians for blige, international requests, as well as an occupying power to ensure people receive food and medical supplies. garza has 7 land crossings, but only to drop off and cut in a bu selling are open for food and a 10 of the books. tom says, just so will 15000 trucks have been allowed in since october 7. but this rattle
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began. it's florida on cause that's less than 20 percent of the minimum required to chat. the says lendy is really security check. so holding up crucial live saving 8 is well denies limited supplies and planes. humanitarian agencies for failing to distribute to those in need. 8 convoys and palestinians nearby had been attacked by his friendly forces is rarely professed as have obstructed convoys to still have us what we do if we connect them now, fighting stops, you have full access. there's huge commodities of central things like pool water medicine going in. it can still work is found accused of genocide at the international court of justice. it's really prime minister benjamin netanyahu has no plans to stop to. despite international warnings,
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not to, he's vowing a land invasion of the rough or the last place of refuge for the 1000000 palestinians were forced to move the by the is fairly ministry for palestinians in gaza. this know, despite but the from is really strikes hospitalization and to seize on the consumption grief i'll just 0 for inside story as well. otherwise, the agency that's been the backbone of delivery of basic services in a to palestinians in the occupied territories for 75 years. sam rose is the agencies director of planning on joining us from rafa, sam palestinians in the north, as we know. and as we've reported, have already begun to starve to death. 23, approximately in the last 2 weeks as the largest state organization in gaza, kind of on the was still a vert, a large scale fan, and we will. and then the situation would get very serious if, if options one site can, and very, very sadly intrinsically those,
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those conditions have come to pass. but we are in a position where we can take an action to prevent an already very catastrophic situation from getting and fall off to us and, and for that to happen, we need to happen. we need to start and now we need to start yesterday. we need to increase the access to ghost coming in opening of more crossings into a gauze, and we can continue to service the population and then know are already in the highest category of, of, of, of starvation and hunger from the south. and we need to start serving them from the north and more importantly we need a sustained c, sorry. it's only with us or cited c, 5 at 80 or other required conferences, can get it. and, but also the commercial site. so can start opening up again and bringing in the supplementary materials that people really needed to meet the basics of life. and
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also, you know, we've seen of a trickle more 8 as you know, reach northern gauze or recently, and you said what currently cannot reach palestinians in northern guys? it's been the case for a while now. so recently we seem to come and boys of trucks make it to the north. we've seen one boat delivery and we've seen some air drops. and so some of our viewers might think, well, this is good news in the sense that it's the start of something right to the start of more 8, especially to the north as director of planning for an want and someone who knows what it takes to feed an entire population at scale. can you speak to that little bit of aid that we've seen going it? it is certainly measured in the situation was before. uh but it, so relative, given that nothing else was guessing in before that and its been incredibly difficult just to get a trickle going. uh, the un we tried, uh, we were seeking uh, approval and permission to go know almost every day. in february,
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only 25 percent of those missions was approved or when they are approved. as you say, they're bringing in 10 truck set, bringing in 16 trucks. they're bringing in 20 trucks. this really is a draw in the ocean in terms of loss need and what are we bringing? it really is the basics. it's allow us a so and so it's comes through. these are the types of foods that can, can provide a minimum color orange inside. so the minimum number of calories that people need, but they all fall off from a nutritious diet. people need new traitors, my car and nutritive sending. fitzsimmons for somebody to see, they need fresh, fresh. fergus? nothing on top about it isn't just the the food situation. it's the water situation . the sun, a nation situation. the almost complete breakdown of the health system as well as country music. uh, i'm sorry for a 2nd. can i jump in? because this is important, you said that you have been seeking every day approval. so that would be from israel approval by israel to send aid convoys up to the north,
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and most of them the majority of been rejected. what is the rationale, the israel? just to clarify, this was in february that the you and the sol permission for 20 full missions to, to the north. this is the un us as a whole, not only 6 of those $24.00 emissions. one reason why is really the various reasons, incentives of a issues with, with paperwork kinda and approvals, processes. it might be to do with the types of items that we were seeking to bring in as i saw some very difficult to understanding what the russian now is as those of us who've been working here for, for some time. no, the agency isn't under, as you said at the top of the show has been here for 75 years. we are an a situation where i'm fine. awesome. we just received a no, we don't get clarification as to why permission we have not been in grounds. that is why appears to be a lead arbitrary or fabric dysfunctional system. sam rose,
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director of planning for unwinding largest agency and gaza. thank you very much for your time today. let's bring in now our panel in room. we are joined by francesca of the easy who is the you in special ref? what's her for the occupied palestinian territory in brussels? we have our one honda who's the middle, the senior advisor for advocacy and policy of the agency. mercy corps which is operated in gaza since the eighty's and in southern gaza. we are joined by fit on a raj and aid worker with aust. them who lives in gaza if you don't let me start with you and you're also in addition to being in an ox fam worker. and we'll tap into your professional specialty in just a moment since you live in gaza. and i, i know you've told us on previous shows that you're also a mother of 5. i'd like to know how your family is doing, how your children are doing and how you have managed to put food on the table over the last 5 and a half months. and um, yeah, thank you for having a um,
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this is actually a very difficult question. how we do. we're just managing to survive. how we do it is very difficult to answer. as i said, how do i put food on this day? but for my family is even more difficult to answer it. and it's, uh, there is a huge light in the absence of who's commodities, isn't the markets to find, even if you have the cash to buy it, which is also something very difficult to get by for all of guns or fast at the button. there are the solution into that for you and you don't find anything to buy, even if you have the money. there is no produce fresh for the jews. we haven't seen fluids in more than 5 months. we can find most or the kinds of visitors in the market. there is no full trade. there is no means there is no, any kind of the animal through to, you know, eggs you know,
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manic. it's really difficult to find something in the future. so you try to find something just to survive by and it's main weekend food and dried food. and yeah, i go through the struggle every day. what am i gonna cook? how am i gonna secure the ingredients? and what can i do? the substitute you, they're missing ingredients, and let's not forget that we are almost to the middle of the fostering mazda grandmother, which makes it even more difficult because i'm not going to speak of how we used to have them on down before what we used to have on our news before, but the minimum of the new additions to have for a fasting get eh, person is not nearly available. so it's very difficult for so the everyday. so you're like new starting today and you're asking yourself, what am i getting a goal today? you don't decide because the there is something that comes to your mind or because
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there is it a gauge and or because there is something in season. oh, but usually me planning. the scenario is not bad. you just look around. see what's available. it's very listen very, the very, very little to try. and then you start thinking how to cook. there's like, we don't even have access to cooking guys to diffuse a, to even to this, to, for a fire would to been the fire. it's very difficult. so also may think of a food is not as easy as you can imagine. are what you're with mercy, core, mercy core has trucks. as i understand it, waiting to go in, can you, we've touched on this before, but can you explain to her of yours? why they're not going in right now. i said, thank you. i know let's just to start by seeing what she has just shared with us is 100 percent preventable. we're not dealing with a minute, simon and guys because of a natural disaster because of an, as, as greg, it's
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a hand made hand made. and so there's a death is preventable and there are very concrete steps at actions if they are taking today. we can stop this from happening in terms of them again, isn't it? of a delivery that is being implemented right now is one of the key drivers for the humanitarian catastrophe that is in god. so the inspection, because in the, uh, the ability of what uh, items are allowed or not allowed to the um, deductible schedules and requests changing requests that come from those radio. so it is about what was in the trucks or not. uh, they are able to view things to this humanitarian situation. the fact that that has the gaza has many land crossings that are being blown except 2. and even these 2 crossings have very limited capacity of an access to blend all the direct lightning
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up on the other side. and this is a key driver for the situation. we have seen efforts by the international community and governments doing air drops and building up here and goes a name because his name that can deliver more aid, upscale and gaza is woke up. we just need to look at the conditions of whether this is meeting that needs, whether this is providing a security, a safety for the people who are receiving this aid. and for the aid workers ward that you think this is a, it's very clear that these conditions are not in place. what can make these conditions in please is a payment of full ceasefire images of his fire opening up the crossings because the ard was sent up to deliver it a skills and stop babies and children from dying from malnutrition, on hunger. stop all this bit of a disease is that is being caused by the level of water and drinking on save on the
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water. so there are concrete actions that can be politically with the political will be implemented. and then tomorrow we can start to we can say that all the human attendant organizations are lined up and are redid to scale up that the human 30th day that it deliveries and physical dishes are in place. okay, you know, but you mentioned stop babies from dying. i'm going to put a pin in that and i have a question for you for the on that and the depths of incense in particular. i'll get to that in just a moment. francesco, been easy. let's bring you into this conversation. you're the you in special rep or terrific human rights and palestinian territories is, is real deliberately starving palestinians. yes, i would say so. so 1st, so let me with things in context because it seems that there is the important, the government that is missing from the conversation in this context that he's the buying power has the response and the delivery itself a den relief to the finest,
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dancing god, the who are the protected people to protect the population, although is the leads them as the end of the, a little sign entity of the whole. he's well is not doing that, but it, is it talking, destroying remove the brands layer rendering. use this all checks that are in despite and support for survival because it is well it has heat the, the, the, the fishing boats, the unable as was see that was saying there is no way to produce food anymore and got so even what was necessary in the school, it's absolutely rocks on the, the, the betterment of the conditions intended deeper. so yes, easterling by aging black and leaves franklin frank, monthly, international and whining starting have know and provoking and using started ration
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as a method a war. but there is another element here because in independent experts of the united nations and refutable scholars have been talking on the general side general science. it can be provo to, to intentional starvation because the government calls the no trust me by a near to me, which by the way, he's really storing because he does scale the over 30 does of people it doesn't during the over 70000 people. and even when he got the key or directly the members of the printer, oh, it's creating the condition. we try how it can be to, to bring about the destruction of the policy as, as a protective group of functions for, to be says, allow me to just want to be very clear as an international lawyer. where are you on this question of whether or not genocide is occurring? we know, of course, is real stands accused of genocide at the international court of justice. i would also note for a few words that you had warned early on with other experts you had warned of the
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risk of genocide occurring in gaza. and i've seen some of your more recent quotes earlier this year saying it's very likely that genocide is occurring. where are you on that? now? i'd be spending the laughter for monster managing, investigating, providing context, analyzing israel, this conduct all those cds, each row statements of statements by political leaders and media, sorry, leaders and actions of the troops on the ground. and i concluded that each row is for meeting generals. how, you know, we present a reporter for the team to record to, to the human rights council next week on the subject. oh this, i don't believe this was known. you so you're, you're telling us that there you are as again you in special rep return. this is your job. you, you provide reports that illuminate the situation and give context in your capacity and capacity as an international lawyer. you're going to get
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a report saying that yes, genocide is happening in your view. yes. are we very cool. all right, we explain the facts of the complex and the legal analysis to argue why. so that is, i mean, i concluded that these are the change on assignment of setting before setting the force together with other birds. she said, how much did you lead t y now? okay. uh, that will certainly make news when that report is published, will look out for it should uh uh, back to you we were talking about babies dying. and it is just the fact that in any population, when there is a storm nation occurring, it's the most vulnerable who die 1st. and that means infants. and after that you have pregnant women like tating women, you have patients of chronic a chronic illnesses. you have the elderly, but you start with incense, so starving a population really what it means is, is killing the next generation in this case of palestinians. accent, they are,
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the francesca was, that clearly says a exhaust is or is committing genocide. and so anyways, getting off sick, the upcoming generation is something they've been actively doing by targeting baby's killing sugar. and like thousands and thousands of children are killed. thousands of 1000 like 17000 children are list unaccompanied because either they lost all of their families or they're separated and can be or united with their family. it is. this also is a targeting over children of the upcoming generation and huge numbers getting off infants and even started getting medical facilities making. it's almost it's stream li, difficult, almost impossible for a pregnant women to give birth and save conditions as also can engulf and friends. and i believe you were saying the water is a drinking water and preventing access to supplies to
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a baby formula to meet a certain feeling medications. and then uh, supplements, and nutrition, and supplements. it's all actively participating and command golf the upcoming generation. as a mother of 5 children, as you are there, say, and the kids take that or more children as well. it's so nice. there is something, but i kept thinking go month stuff like how. what if i knew is one of the, of my children, how am i gonna use a news? one of the, these are children. you know, i get thinking of that. we're also working with case loads of children who are traumatized, who are under eulogy and the risk of immunization and psychological, through my consequences. and on top of that, they're hungry. they are hungry to death. we are starved to death, so the children don't know really and goes on where to go for the next a blow to come. you know, it's really difficult to other children. and specifically,
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one of the questions we asked at the top of the program was, what can end, this are why you're in brussels and i understand you're also advocating for guys and it's population there. i wonder within the you won't be, i don't know exactly who you're talking to and maybe you can give us a sense of that. but i wonder what response you are getting within the european union to your advocacy for palestinians. and gosh, because the facts are now a 5 and a half months into this conflict. undeniable. we are currently as an organization at the mercy poor. we have a big team here and working collaboratively together with other i n g o as a team members to engage the intent, the european human to the a forum where there are or leaders and funding ministers to present the small data p and union or gathering here for the 2nd forum and of course gather is prevailing and everyone it's like gather is the topic of this year for him.
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and what we are trying to do here is to get the words leaders, especially for those who haven't or not there yet. in terms of the analysing dodge and violations that are happening in gaza. but also calling, i'm putting old in weight appear shirts to have a ceasefire as soon as possible. so these are our targets. we're trying to show them the evidence and the needs and the fact that there is no time left to be hesitant to take these categorical positions and put the all the pressure to stop the bombing from full length on the beginning is still what is left for from being destroyed up in the gates open the borders, i believe that's where you're advocated, but what, what kind of response are you getting? and there are definitely work leaders who are already calling and are being very
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vocal about all of these conditions are all of these needs and there are others who are still not there yet. and again, as i said, we are doing a lot of private advocacy public advocacy. um, just to show that they continue to block the prospect of having a ceasefire and getting up a more innocent life will be lost and it becomes to a point where it gets their responsibility to stop the bloodshed and the stop they, they the more likely to be lost and also warning from what could happen and drop off the only place that is relatively being safe. although we know that they're civilians being killed, the injured every day, all over the guess that's true, but at least to stop. 6 the invasion on anybody to read discussion and reflect, because this is going to be also the last name and the girlfriend of the human to respond francesca. there's a question i've been meaning to ask you for a while. i've interviewed you before,
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but you so you weren't international lawyer and now you're within the un machinery as are you in special rapport or? and the you ins. primary mission is to keep the peace, prevent conflict and it, it is, it's failing. i mean, i'm not breaking any news here. it is failing, and it's in a very visible way on this particular conflict. i wonder being an insider what you've learned being within the machine. i've learned that the theories of significant legacy, of, of the expecting that to then to gain access to the united nation fits them through the 2nd world war which deals the term means and each to the ultimate, to call us to determine the auction. or indeed, auction of the united nation. so here we have a, the countries from the global south that are actively trying to stop
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the atrocities in gaza and a general lack of response because i'm sorry, words of combinations means the role 0 right now. better in the state of the press because it's just a inside delivery injury. so now either, yes, we are facing a finger on the united nations system, but i cannot, i don't want to blame the organization per se, because we know that they see you with the security council has not been functioning because all the beatles over and over of the united states, the same united states who's been an army who's been providing financial support to israel and now it's also building a p, a 2 door to door if the bombs do not stop falling on this bridge shut on the overall destruction of gaza. so it was my level frustration
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has reached the point of no return. i can tell you okay, i'd like to, i'd like to think all of you for joining us for this discussion to see donna raj around honda and francesca, albany z. thank you so much for your time today. we appreciate it. and also to sam rose who joined us earlier of course, and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website alpha 0 dot com and for further discussion, good. our facebook page at facebook dot com forward slash a inside story. you can also during the conversation on the x, our handle is at a j inside story from me. so then, yeah, and the inside story team here in doha bye for now. the the latest news as a phrase, several philistines were killed as they were trying to get much needed food to survive with detailed coverage. families of captive before joined by thousands of
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