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so whenever you, because i mean on and yet they continue to report the close of business . the story of just one of the shall be, should be a no, haven't had been hired for the love of cuz on that's just another blow to on your wife and you, us, lo includes a year long then on funding to view an agency that supports spite of seeing refugees, washington spends with, as well, like choosing some employees of taking part in how much the task. what does this mean for the people of gaza? this is inside story, the hello welcome to the program. i'm hash and i have bottle of the united nations relief i'm with agency or under law,
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provides humanitarian support to millions of policy. and refugees is why as war on guys has made his work even more vital. but the agency is on the prussia, the united states has suspended funding off to is was to have some of its employees while involved in how much the attack on october, the 7th. the agency denies the accusations but has by the stuff implicated and opened an investigation. it wasn't enough to reassure washington, however, on the loss of us support could prove devastating, can only walk into its work without its biggest dona. and what does this be for part of cities in gaza or on the brain consolidation would go to our panel in just a moment. but 1st benton on, on how's this report of the motion is agreed to and with asked the us congress cut a lifeline to the people of god. the believe his budget include the provision for a year long, suspension of funding to enroll you in agency per palestinian refugees. the move
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was pushed by politicians who accused of collaborating with a mass on wrong is a completely irredeemable organization. since october 7th, we have seen how much from us has infiltrated on and rag can not be the conduit for humanitarian. 8, it is clear that it has been infiltrated by a, a mazda hundreds of supports, nearly 6000000 palestinian refugees across the middle east. it runs schools and hospitals and plays a vital role in distributing humanitarian aid in the us. is it the biggest donor touching more than $422000000.00 in 2023. the agency is poor and that's the spending that support could prove catastrophic. and not only for the palestinians, this is not the time at the time of this immense warrant garza and possible regional repercussions. this is not designed to the stabilize the region further by
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weakening and main components of regional stability, which is other a. israel says 12 with the agencies, 13000 employees and gaza were involved in october 7th attacks when ha spiders killed 1139 is re leaves on route to night. the accusations got good fired. the staff implicated and opened an investigation. several donor nations prose, their funding, but many have since restored it is real, has long pushed for on world to be disbanded and has increased this pressure during the war on gaza. owner as part of the problem not possible solution. it is a homos front and it's time to put it behind israel's military offensive. it's placed 1700000 palestinians and pushed the population to the brink of famine and rose road. coordinating aid has become more important than ever its own clear of
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the agency will recover from the loss of funding. whereas the people gaza will survive without support. vince and bonham al jazeera for inside story. the. so how does the roger flat still under one's existence fits in with these rise will? and what would the consequences be for generations of policy is all the questions to raise with our panel in the funds us. we have about sunni, a nasa scientist on does a native who was educated at an on the law school in don't have time and i'm old. now that goes that a to is professor of the institute for graduate studies who specializes in international age and conflict resolution in london is chris gunners currently the director, or they need my accountability projects on formerly an under westbrooks person. however, one on thank you for joining us. do i, what was your reaction to the use of the us was we're drawing it's funding for
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wonder. well, for 2025. you know, i mean it's, uh, i don't say stupid decision space on a lot of ignorance and lack of knowledge. i mean, there's just studies out to see, i mean, it's in a way, it's actually, you know, i mean, i don't know what the middle determinative to provide. education would actually bring people out of poverty, putting people out of thinking i showed you, kate, them knowledge started. that's usually help to a piece, you know, getting actually stopping funding is not the 1st time united started doing and subbing the funding. and actually in a way, the electric, a terrorism directly ton as a decision to stop funding got to these for this year. could it be an indication that perhaps it could just be part of a prolonged process whether us will have to shut down of the owner? why in the future? awesome. since level of security, the for a long time has been the even before though, the servants, the evidence,
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the evidence and then the uh, the firewall. well, i mean the importance of the presents, it's a living. there's so many other still has probably been off of the not, but often i use the 6 or 7 more of all the complex that they don't have most on the plan with all that's considered ones is mainly that it gigi's. and so all the other stuff has been on the mat existing is an international. the is an international evidence for a living system. your rights, these people start to think of the status of the disease. and the 2. 1 is the final step and much of this conflict happens. and by the time you're thinking roy is basically if it is, it's like i said, if it's f r to shutdown, i don't know uh, diminishes succeed. then basically this would be the cost for it as long as i mean,
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but the method of wondering what i mean dr. motor could use isn't have as no consequences whatsoever. and, and the, and the issue is that, so i think the timing for me, is it the more the, the question i mean. mm. the final decision that come from a business of a person inside the of uh, one foot wide split firm and in the got a square in these cars when you, when is he also the i, c, g demanding for more expansion of a more if i'm not going to be is on the at all to have what the solution to this as a unit of submitting a then that you want to come in this. i thought complicity with that. i have, you know, what list moves and so on, fives of this, this resolution for me because i used to fill out for the us of installation costs . there was hope that the spending bell will, would include that, that optical about the $350000000.00 to be dive back to,
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to on or why given the fact it's legacy history since it was established in 1949. and the fact that it gates has for almost 6000000 policy in refuge is spread across many countries. that didn't happen. is that an indication that the american is up to any of the chapter under, as well as the, is the tools in the spill, which makes it clear that in the beginning of 2025, the funding would return that specifically a po. so let's not make any assumptions about the us, but to be clear, this is a political attack. the eclipse, with talking on ro is an attack on the, to an attempt to di da, turn it into a mortgage issue to be paid. you know the agenda on that on the same school. so it's an attack on a, to 60 sion. i'm not going to be one of the very polite, it's one of the foundations of middle east peace. certainly make no mistake go. but it seems like a time on of you, an agency by
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a single member of the general assembly. so rather than that perhaps so we can talk about what we see something much, much bigger. it's in a time on the middle east peace process on multi lecture lives in itself. as far as the economy is concerned, it's taking home in new jersey time because normally with an adult, the simple adult you to see which these are allegations made against the tool of the south bend is completely set means that no evidence produced by means of fool uh now what we're seeing is these, raise it to discredit our controls. going down to the kind of tional crossing point, i'm going to be clear, concrete consecutive 50 truck. oh wow. what is, what is it do? it is the truck's going to cancel good intentions, but it's a girl all the containments. it kind of as long as they know on the way they use this, they're not being able to, to deliver this agent. no, it's these. railways were built in the truck from going down there. so there's a lot of that in this,
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but i've been talking to sol as being rough. they're all full of states that have come back to increase the sol dues. the you a couple other ross to discuss much to $25000000.00 to this pills insignificant compared to the so the saudis christiane at around will do the full uh oh, did you make it to move the goal? who that 200000000 to to come away from the pga tool. but let's get to that. the fire is it does. it's all beginning to come back. let us thing is a terrible in the side and a whole bunch of this relentless genocide that school is flexibility to what to do . so i'm root canals that say continue on until june. so let me see what happens. the big problem now is it keeps getting a lot of the stick with a i'm to be clear, it's be as ready to go thing that and now the incremental number increase not just was believe that the really the commit to general blah,
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blah. since i'm getting installed, now we go, i'm re being bought from the news, but to be clear that as of all, the issues of the provisional measures folded by the international court of justice on the 26th. so like, let's go, let's take the call and say, here's the evidence that was really genocide and by the way, the i c. c, which does a criminal cost of the lot, but it's the, the best guessing was lady. so the issue with florence, full max of yahoo to the defense minister just to zip the piece and so that a lot of the world can do it wants to know the best way to, but frankly, just say regional piece. let's try to unpack, what does this mean for the people of for the policy is we've been talking about the almost 6000000 refugees that are live in different parts of the well, no, i, you, your life has in a way or another being shaped by under law and does that when your thoughts,
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as you went to school, was that you had your own dreams and then you went to the us and you helped design the light. will lightweight robots have had a couple so for now it says, march 2020 perseverance rover mission. could you give us a sense of how was life for you back then? when you are the going to run by owner was not only about, do you know, i mean, they just, i mean big part of the modification. i mean like, you know, by them. so some of it was a big employer. so i mean, working with a lot of a lot of like a lot of my teacher, them a lot of them in the goods of the jobs they give people. so these jobs i mean, and poor people's life. so it can actually, you know, but encouraged people to, with a new cation. i mean, i never was considered to be one of the best employer impala science. a lot of people like take a lot of bite and that's, you know, i mean, cuz you can only bring back to the community, you know, like, i mean, bringing up education. i'm thinking of knowledge. i mean, think people out of, you know, out of darkness. i mean, this is, i mean, this is the feeling. i mean, this is what helped me. i mean, the, you know, mean my 1st 9 year out of my k 12. i mean, that were all in our schools. i mean,
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it's very sad to see today like every single school i went to and guys have been actually destroyed completely. and you know, i mean it's just like, you know, i mean there's a, there's a literally happened to me the 1st day they were attacking schools like be empty. i mean, they actually use the motion and motion explosive to pull up the schools. and based on what we just seen was already directly targeted and targeting education because i mean, you know, in some ways, you know, i think, you know, that that's the targeting the future over the pallet. senior people targeting the whole, i mean, you know, i mean there is, you know, i mean there's biggest ration, but one, cuz see somebody be able to actually went to an owner. what's cool on being able to be successful and make it somewhere around the world be able to provide knowledge to the entire humanity in our entire planet. and that's the way i really look at it . and that's all i mean, it just bizarre. so good to be slightly bad. i mean it's really sad to see you a lot. that investment does have investment into the future of the future of, i mean the, you know, let me not just the palestinian started told him his future of actually, you know, thinking, you know, having humans to provide, you know,
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to the entire universe. meaning, just like, you know, i mean, we just, so i'm just taking anything that actually stopped education i think is i think it's a, i think it's, that is a mistake. and you know, i, i'm not, you know, and honestly like, you know, in some way, right? now that we need to work on actually be able to bring back the funding or i should have but buy ultimate it's um, i mean it does all sound like a north of guys on guys is like, i mean on what you like for a sec. actually it's, it's, it's almost its own government. so i mean, the big part of the, you know, the big part of the economic medical systems and educational systems. so, i mean, a lot of that is going to be lost. you know me, a lot of people will lose their job. so i mean, in that's, you know, you can just imagine everything going to come out of that time. if we are to look for alternatives in the near future, i would step in and take over, given the fact that, oh no to what itself was, is too long history and has saved the lives of policy and in a way, never done by any other organization. over the last decades,
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i don't think there is any other alternative don't. it was as long as the thing and go just for the life. i mean there is no final supplement. there is no good a find a dispute between the thing is i don't see the good. and this is the nature of, i mean, the unlike for example, they like the admissions office. you my blackboard for the, the, you in the, the cs automatic g agency and which has on monday to reset the, the thought to be able to compensate. and could you use the order was the is the sort of thing that gives you the finances of the takes place. and so it depends on how this, what, what do you want a whole classroom? i mean, if they box them, are you uh, is that like your guess to say the meaning isn't as been the days off. what
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happens? what is all the controls for the professional process? controls every aspect to fly those guys and then decided to stay in the buyer, then it's going to be the sort of course this was the, i mean, imagine the government lift the lead. you still gave the surfaces to 70 percent of the population will model within that, it gives the from go. so if you go away from there, you go to the function. but the owner was more to be under construction or was about services. i'm all told about about everything that, that done that has to do with dig up at a student of the g g. so we're going to go on what i mean. it's going to be at the thought of disaster and added. yeah, chris, and i'll do us a saying that he's going to be there with $175000000.00 the funds to of the
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humanitarian processing, the west bank and gaza. and this is likely, again to us the us age and all the u. n. agencies to take over, but either as they were going to be able to fit in the gap because we're to send to, to a and 10 method basically saying because of the symbolic image of, of, of, of other lights out of the way has been associated with the bodies to be applied on the policy is inc, as a in particular, it would almost be possible to have an alternative to fix on the case be delivering soon have 13000. so we're running the $200.00 schools. it's called 23 health. and these are people deeply embedded in the community. there's a level of trust between the people on the, on the another to just come in and replace that which by the way, it's so sad. and i say grow people like monitoring griffith, the cd much humanitarian in the united nation system is involved and talks about kind of the service of food distribution springs all to wi fi the world to programs
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if they could suddenly power. she did install the food distribution, snow on the how the culture it, how does the culture tangible property? because let me tell you that is the best, the international system house in terms of be trying to teach in new york, but also have the input structure. it have trust, it has the to distribution center, it have the warehouses, but most of all, it has a culture. it's a deeply rooted in policy. just say to right now, i'm wrong with each other. all the products, the only difference on the us a, on the house, the head of us to in the play with a is really focus of the 2 subjects. are you really telling me the american aid is going to have come to mind weapons and money a, a terminal, but it's a full city. this is not about security to chewing the ceasefire. there was no restrictions. it just simply went to the normal without any checks rules, whether it's part of these really tactics to develop garza and to destroy. and i
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will tell you this in the general assembly. the other members of the general assembly say, are the ones who decide, well, i'm gonna speak to them and they just won't change or race. it will be not a fall, right? ruth state the state israel, that's trying to launch this political a topic by the way. it's not just a political type, it's an operational attack. they're trying to prevent these, this and you in the system has between 50 and 70 visas waiting for approval. and by the way, it's also been done with the complexity of the objections. it was the objections with back to the store to lead love to really going into god are they were the ones that you called me. it's really don't even have a presence in route, but you know, there is a conspiracy by many help. it's beyond the un officials who i think the deform more to, to step out and support and install this crazy conversation about having the services to talk to a people will only on the right now to install mass starvation. very clear about
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that. no, i, if i ask you another personal story as a nasa scientist, i know that you must be a mo, most of your life. pretty much preoccupied with looking off to the din lights of a very distant universe looking for indications that it might unravel something very interesting about a potential for another live the. but then when you think about the goes away, you came from massive destruction. normal schools, no more hospitals, do you feel like that the international community is abandoning that policy and people the people of casa? oh, you do a bad thing. i mean, i mean, the majority of the lot of the commission community, i mean, the government seemed they are in cahoots or, or they're, they're mean they're part of a plan. i mean, it does seem systematic. everything guys going through, i mean, it seems, i mean, an active plan of ethnic cleansing. i mean, you know, distorting from the 1st day. i mean, i go in a ship a hospital and, you know,
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start seeing the public gotten the building up. i guess the she for hospital and then is like, you know, you can see everything is being space for our plan to clearly use like, you know, if you've been forcing on a lot of north of guys in the beginning, it seemed like us to completely like leaves the north, i mean, they just, i mean, and it seemed the whole world sitting there and watching as they like. it seemed like a payment crushing it as a plan. and you know, i mean, i'm the only one is fighting of the people on the ground right now. i mean, just by resisting and just live. i mean, is extremely sad to see of the word actually just witnessing this. i mean, you know, i, you know, my parents were trapped from you guys or for a full month. and, you know, mean being actually, you know, they had for an passport. i'm literally a dream and government completely ignored them. i mean, i didn't get any help from the us government. i mean like they don't really. i mean, the way i feel like leaders don't care about us. i mean, we just another number uh, you know, just people around the world that just, you know, the worst of the world don't care about, you know,
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like we can sacrifice these people to, you know, or send somebody great or plan, you know, and so it seemed like, you know, money and you know, like a resources are the most important thing in the life in the world, in the people the future in a few minutes, i don't think is even an important thing. that's like, it seemed like very directly from the policies. i mean, the timing of actually, you know, forcing on what using otherwise is part of actually the, another part of ethnic cleansing. and i think i don't, i'm not sure if like, the us is actually aware of actually their participating and supporting and beating not only eating the, i mean, you know, i mean, and i, i know when i way extra screening is there, i don't know why because you know, the financial responsibility of people on that i q patient to go to back to buying power. so, you know, i mean, so on some ways like, what's going to happen next, you know, i mean, i think, i think there is a big question mark, i mean, do a lot of, even though, okay, i'm not the, i'm not even sure what's going to happen. a time and when you look at the list. so the biggest contribution to us as donors, the how the us followed by germany is sweet and all way japan friends. and that it
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was best question why on which wildly out of nations stepping in to make up for the deficit. do you think that is a political win or not for the time being? well, i think sadly, i mean since the onset of these this way of normalization deals with so many other countries is that on and the number of countries, i think that it does not change. i mean, the sofa states of the, the, to some investment agenda, the farming enemies between them. and they said, i am the economic interests, political interest. i mean naming, i mean us, the student goes as of the comments, the 2nd or modular biology from them. that's that said the, the kind of to you guys are the security. i mean, did you decide on what i was exposed to the complex complexity i would say and also
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weakness. because of course they have the, i mean they want to put more pressure on them is the, they have so many tools that can specially because i'm not as an option to basically signing these these. i mean, what's the most that i'm the, we don't, i mean even with the, except for the one projecting job. that is, i'm not mistaken. but it's, i mean, when it comes to the minimum, the minimum of the account due to not doing it. and then suddenly i think, uh, i mean, we understand, i mean this comes in the context of the spring has, has its own, the position and the money out of the genes as both of the above. but what, what happens in the rest of the time as well, okay, are you talking and how much this is identified? the more no, that is really the thing that is about a steam. and this is what baptist about and blood pressure is a chris,
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there are talks behind closed doors for the, for the sake of a deed, when it comes to goes about. it's no secret that it also talks about what's next full gaza, while the international community, the us of these writers are saying how much would have no say we have, we would like to have new entities taking over. could this be an indication that when it comes to what's next full gaza, the us in particular followed by is why i would like to make sure that the organizations are getting into the office of the needs of the people should no longer be mostly affiliated with you and, and that, and you make kind of them is going to be put into place as well. that is certainly the issue of the far right the most. all right, it doesn't exist as well, which is why it's pointing to this attack on, on the makes you pass the suggestions possible. these things need to take the positions of long are going to know to the i c, j. as evidence of genocide. i would like to see full 200,
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maybe 200 members of the general assembly, which students unwrapped. it's monday, stepping up and say we will not allow a long road member plus it's back to the, to the monday mission. all right, so she is going to stable mat, solve the issue. i last see the security council, which is due to the phone, right? and the patient bring that to back forth until seamlessly is going to happen. and i want to see some break lines to bottom age of power is released region, which is all the destruction is a red line. if this continues, you will not be able to have slide slide the cells, which all could say that was all red line to destruction of on the we will talk more about what they should and you next week is really committed to allowing her to operate. because to be very clear, as i say, the political check on on role is a political, it tends to d, d to follow, which is in itself an attempt to get to,
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to, to, to destroy a 2 state solution, which is one of the plan for middle east peace, the nothing is nothing but peace in the middle east is it strikes the 2 state solution is by my part of the movies, the by the aids. it's well is to get away with the story on the scale who it's about. it's of course about saving millions of people from salvation, but it's also about providing a real estate from renting piece in the middle east. the decades to con gentleman were running out of time. but how for the we've got a chance to further expand on this issue in particular, and the meantime to a pursue any time the risk of this. i really appreciate your insight. thank you. and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website and just see the dot com for further discussion. go to our facebook page, that's facebook dot com, forward slash a j inside. so you can also join the conversation on x, i'll hand it is as
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