i saw family drama and chuck jago homes rather than kid shows. cooking shows you a for you right 2020 full top your b leaves and much more. don't forget to use the promo code from it that will also orthodox jews in israel 7, it's military. the government is undergoing pressure to end the decades when we exemption. that's as cool is a growing pull groups to join the army as a rule right? is holding draws. it could, it leads to the collapse of benjamin. nothing. y'all, who's coalition this is inside story. the hello there on james bay's, it's a controversial issue that's been brewing and israel for years should ultra orthodox jews and the bill of tree for generations. the community has been exempt for the cold holder can change that. prime minister benjamin netanyahu has filed

the last minute application to the supreme court for it to be at the foot for 30 days. but the control vesee isn't going any way. israel's war on garza is feeling a sense of urgency and anger among those required to sign up. so how much of a threat does this pose to prime minister netanyahu and his coalition? and what is government survive the full out from such a change in policy? what it smell, all these issues with all kind of guessing a moment. but 1st this report from katya lopez auto young, cultural orthodox jews have always been exempt from israel's mandatory military service. that is set to change, but not without a fight. those protesting se, as religious jews joining the army contradicts their traditions and lifestyle. we were along with military the sanctions. the ultra orthodox also received a government in subsidy. if they study the torah full time and religious

institutions, israel supreme court has ordered the government to stop payments for those who defy the draft. comes from a growing resentment among those called to him list. i don't know what we won't be ultra orthodox in the army now, no delays, no politics, and no tricks. the issue is a challenge for benjamin. that's a yahoo! the could wreck his coalition and look them up. he built in alliance with right claim groups to secure his term is prime minister and overseeing an end to the military exemption could be seen as political betrayal. anybody talks any time as it goes there? i'm sure we can get disagreements with the majority in the canals. that would also, one thing is clear to me. it's impossible to obtain a total consensus or it's been a controversial issue for years, but the war and garza has turned it into an urgent one. military leaders say they need more people to lose it,

more people on the ground in gaza. so ministers say they're ready to resign. if the exemption continues a little, what actually mean this nation cannot accept it and it should not be approved. my colleagues and i will not be members at the emergency government, a such legislation policies. and if it enters the little books of these around, the issue is controversial and could mark a significant shift in his really society one that could extend well beyond israel's hor august patsy. a little this with again now is a 0 for insight story. the, the was the significance of oldest full, these riley people and the war on gauze on the, on the question for today's panel in west jerusalem eastern inbox, the president of the jerusalem institute for strategy and security. that aims to advise, as wells leaders in defense. and diplomatic masses in london you'll see medical book is the associate fellow at chatham house,

specializing in the politics of israel, in the middle east, unintelligent. you've met on the rubber pool, is the editor of local coal, the hebrew language, news site advancing, citizen journalism and an independent media. thank to all of you for joining us. i'd like to get to the ultra ultra orthodox for us, but there are lots of countries around the world that don't have what's something called the draw. so let's get to the basic system. first. if i can, do you a from just explain what the basic rule is for his riley's as i understand it, with some exceptions, every one that the a 2 by 18, most of hey you all the way to zillow is that everybody is being listed. so all exceptions, without domain exceptions, one is databases, wayllace, uh, we believe failed not put, not to put them in a difficult position to fight, save a cousins, literally, the cousins sometimes and also the adult adults that the fully salt lake reasons do

not serve and actually eh, ones, the state was the study, so it was a political agreement between the daily thing, leon and z, those people was the orthodox to. it allows him to, lends a legitimacy to send us that we stayed and say agreement was to allow our if you on the on that i believe the new voice in the you, she rained the scores, ohio, the jewish learning to be exempt from service. this is always something you're okay, is a big uh, let me bring in a better on on this because before again, before we go to the specific area of the ultra orthodox, just explain it to be a little bit more if, if, if you are 18 years old and for example, you object to the current conflict that's taking place in gaza. um on political grounds, if for example, you believe that israel is not doing enough to get aid in those,

the international court of justice says, or if you believe it should be a c spa, now is the un security council says, is there an exemption for you that if you, if you, if you have political disagreements with the world that israel is involved in, you know, essentially no, uh there are, there is, uh, you could be extended to the, on the continental uh, reasons. but that is very, very difficult to obtain. uh eaters, and you know, kind of gray arrangement in which, uh, you know, yeah, and uh people who do not. busy to so find, you know, kind of codes problems, you know, they're not so, so, but if you say that you don't want to, so because you disagree with the, with the would have policies off the government. okie dokie patients. oh, you name it. you go to prison. okay, you'll see, let's now turns to the specific subject area here,

which is the cultural also adults community. let's 1st the account exactly who these people are. if you could give us a little bit of a history lesson, i mean these are the jewish communities that were traditional clothing and brace, tradition, oppose building values and practices. just explain to me who these communities are and where they came to as well from it was many of those, all adults came full formation to google, though. nowadays you have or call to adults 5 year old talk to docs when they pick on speed. politically speaking, they have to piloting the in, in the connected shots and they have with that the size. and i think it's sort of reminding elegance and the view is that's many of them actually oppose design east idea. they also said this is pretty, i'm thing that messiah. so the idea off establishing a state went against the 13th. and they so designed this movement as a sexual one, many of them were socially so liberal,

and they were full states. so the phenomena of them moving many of them. you know, you have all thought adults that actually live for hundreds. sophia's in the, in, in what's known this added society and then the phase of but many of them as i've talked to, of 1945 and off the coast. and the tendency to begin was to stay out of politics, but realized that by staying out to fund it takes, there is a heavy price in terms of, of being close to, to power and what the power comes with. now one of the things that define you mentioned earlier, and there's only days of falls that come through the 1st 5 minutes to exempt that on for hundreds of them from sales in your, in, in, in the, in the military. and the idea of, and i think the 2 pillows to this exemption, one is, is i think the some of the most extra that have soft spots to most of those will dedicate their life. it's a start the day joyce. sure,

the g. and i think also that is so which become more and more important as we come to the topics today is the needs to follow the needs of the most secure. the policy is whether it's in the past label only codes and nowadays. so they're supposed to know the form in coordination without paying set. then they do a logic of a price when it comes to the issue with the palestinians. a from then if you can bring us up to date, you said earlier, you store the, the estimate was about 41948. how many now and how politically powerful of this group it was, i say is our symbol. oh, holds h quotes that will not the listing and up to a certain day of just the whole says out, let me doesn't call you. so we are talking about the close to 70000 of the youngsters between age of 18 and 2425. it could be called into service,

but the exam, this is a quite a large number is a pretty good follow up with the, with adults. and so you'll see as mention, yeah, is increased over time because they are not the left o, y a but things are made to politically in the, in modeling terms. and they basically can join any coordination and the sales soul as they can maneuver the politically much better. it is a result of that, that is a get a lot of, uh, the, all of the benefits of the states. and the recently, in the past maybe 20 deals, they have become paul, also liked we blog making a quotation was done, you know, also enjoys that land was, uh, was on that of that. let me explain minutes though, and uh this uh, what it should is now is go slipping by the issue of at least the matter. and then

let's, let's bring it right up to date and why it's become such a huge issue now. seems to me, there are 2 aspects. one is the conflict and goals are in to there's been a long running costs process, but seems to be coming to a head 1st in terms of the war on gauze the how, the fact that this community does not, i believe there are some developments here to fight, but doesn't send soldiers at this time when his route is at war. how does the rest of the country feel about that? has always been there sensitive, used to the fact that the suction dodge communicate, that is going to be good because the birds rate, the ease, is twice so even to add 3 times higher than the same. the regular and the rest of the population. so the tension that uh such a large number of young people do not so has always been the sensitivity issue.

certainly offset the, you know, the shock of october 7 and the war on guys and the fact that it is low loss, the low didn't $650.00. so joe, that's a whole 3 gay the remotes that were killed. 3000 where wounded uh, soldiers. so the army really needs and these kind of have the prospect to use of a prolonged war in gaza and may be in the and we don't know where else so, so uh, in the all, he really needs more. so just come think about that the need at least uh, more 7 townsend soldiers, new soldiers and, and the drafting the regular draft. and that's, uh, that's something that, uh, put smoke pressure on the, on to develop something on the, on this tension between the secular side. just being so and the,

the old chart adults, it's has to be added as a fine. so i think the last, i would say 15 years fuel into drugs to, to got to become major los the founding part of it. them. yeah, i was calling diction describing coalition, right, doing bill. and therefore boeing big james may come. yeah. when i add the 2nd, what use quote and that would be the campaign in the team that you started, he's going against. i can now. he's also aiming at bill to auto docs to be to because because this is the weakest, i would say the chain of the, of the, of the, of the writing book because they're not liked by disagree loans that don't really liked by using the, the religious, the match those religious,

the set of those them outright buy them because the 2nd is go to the army and the hotel it looks don't, don't know the zionist, as, as you'll see, mentioned or not, the crowds are nice. so there is tension down the weakest, a part of the rights we duncan doable when deliberate the camp attacked. and they are also. ready an easier target as i said this, you'll see a been a long running court proceedings going on here. very long running just to bring us up to speed of where we are now. because that has come to ahead as well, at this time when israel is it will a yes because of many issues be owned actually the military service says, i think with the, the fact that the voting pets and the all talk to adults, the pension oil. so, you know, in advance to find the election,

how many member of method they'll going to, it's how many seats they'll going to gain, and they can become king's macros. with this also cub that they want, they do illogically between falls more and more religious lows. and moving towards more elastic states which upsets that, they're more liberal in mind that then on top of feet, what upsets menu of, of the, of the sexual does the 7 though, mean that those are a lot of going to them. adults, all adults at the age of 18, they actually are paid by the government. so the bunny consuming knows it's what i mentioned earlier. i basically spawn, so by dollars or later, you know, fill 7, dial me then a going to to work in something that in the, in jump that generates well as in the society and pay for those daughter a don't 7 down me be start the in the so a bunny consuming those topics and issues mainly it's, it's joyce jurisprudence and scholarly that's not going to adjourn the gender.

that's with what smell decides across of justice. says that if they don't serve in dial me and then also that this money from the public pills shouldn't be big. it'd be paid to base the button because say we know it's, it's enough time to actually to create some, we call it the we fin the building. they tell you everything, every society who actually those killing the building, whether it's in this case, minutes or service eh, today, think it possible this economy and all of the one that actually if you look at this that this fixing is then those tall adults pay $19.00, so when it comes to taxes towards to what the sexual 0 $1.00. 0, at least the $611.00. those are not say, or the call to those religious does not to talk to those. and that's what the kind of for, you know, the pin so that i call through justice and the decision by de la ais quotes of justice is trying to rectify of ephraim this current headache. so prime minister

netanyahu has, as we heard, comes from the justice system. of course, of the pack dropped this over the last year is that the prime minister was having a battle about changing that system. well, i think this is some things that happened so many god is a all the is a divisional follow betweens. at bottom, it is a supreme court of justice. so we say you can say that i could say to many of the democratic countries, i personally a favor, you know, limit things. apollo as far as the so think of just send that in both and it says the values on the list on the site essentially says we should be made by based upon them in this model juncture. and but they think that they usually see is different . i think the 2nd bill and population is right to buy it from the dealer. hey dulce, the all settled, all the dogs and even these demographic things continues and naturally to

continue because it can be somehow managed a, it will make the secular, at least a neighbor, the smaller of, uh, you know, and uh, you know, as a, is very society as uh, its not tobacco don't make it as an adult adults. national religious will tell mother an orthodox people and a loud spot adult with tradition and then i use and the secondary. so i have to let me know if they have been, you know, is the founding elements of but it was easily state and did they become maybe, you know, the ends it's, it's a struggle for follow. and of course, you know, he's not, the only is the 2nd, at least what is happening with a so is that it was a minute. those was, was old, old adults. so, and this was basically confined to alex and mom got the elements of the population

in a little bit of a to bring a change in the as a habits all said, what all the adults may be as postings and to some extent into modernizing and becoming both all the mother and economy and sale by changing someone has good reviews and new meetings over the political influence. you'll see if i could ask you to take a look inside prime minister netanyahu, whose coalition and just explain to us how divided the cabinet is on this and how much of a problem it is for the prime minister, who in the past in building cabinets, has been described by some is a bit of a political houdini. how's it going to get out of this? one is what it's it's, it's a tough one because if it is losing the overall to adults, if they're leaving the correlation, he has no correlation because it wouldn't be photo though. so, most probably by, by people like care benny guns and, and, and i, or ice and cold,

the joints only because of, of, of the wall. and they are due to leave at the correlation. and for the little to the, this is one of the major issues. one of the source of the supporting them is because they, the one that puts pressure on any correlation on any government's environment. nice still to exempt. and from, from a minute the military service, the, i looked us 6 the delta square and i don't, i think it's, it's the question here if the can legislate because all of this for legislation that can change the decision by the court of justice in a way that it's, you know, then that's why it's so important to resist. what's nathaniel, quoted the phone because whether it's isn't and i, in and most, most paper in the news that i think that's exempting adults. all adults he's on that isn't but, but the ways to reserve, he doesn't mean that symbol window or door tall to dogs,

which at the age of military service should be a, should be mobilized into dial me the waste a result of a. so some of them that want to join down may be mobilized by reducing the financial support or for binding consuming. now maybe taxation of those that don't save any incentivized those want it to want to solving though me. but this needs to really emission the discussion about this issue because it's the vice of the country that are on the picking up on that point. i mean if they were forced to serve all these ultra orthodox, how exactly would that work? would they be willing? so just would they serve in front line, come back units, what they work, cohesively in the military. what's your, what's your view of my and i think this is very far away photo. uh so basically you follow me tomorrow. ready 2 uh the, the,

the lo is abolished below that it allows them to not to serve, isn't published and they should so and funding from the government to stop to there if she goes to the, the baton code seminars should start tomorrow. i think the chances that this will happen over the saline uh they may uh, refuse to serve. uh and if we're talking about tens of thousands, i think it would be impossible for, for, for the army. uh, 222, dot com. uh, thousands and thousands of the issue that was uh, a 2 not happened. uh the all me is completely unprepared uh to, to, to get them day. you'll have to understand that they come also with the very limited to can you cation, general education. they don't know english for example,

they don't, uh, they don't have lo, method methics. it would be simply difficult to induce them. uh, you wouldn't have to change the all be in order to, to give them to opportunity for a culture, a meals and a cultural training given. meaning that they read notes, training with women. and so it gets very, very complicated. they think the issues to allow is small parties of co, i think nothing. yeah, we use it in a very weeks point i. we point to, i think that the tension we in these own camp i'm not talking to even in the general public with the is own care of growing uh, to allow for uh, all these go to the doctor. so it's not accept that, as i said by the settlers photoshop. okay, let me, let me, let me bring a frame in on that point. i mean, how difficult

a moment is this for the prime minister netanyahu not just this issue, but there's the failure to free. the captive still being held by him asked as growing tensions between the us and israel, particularly over the planned rafa offensive says you've got a un security council resolution to set so international court of justice provisional measures making israel some would say i'm getting more of the prostate, just how difficult is this now for the prime minister? obviously, the always in a very difficult position and because of the domestic problems and international blood pressure is wanting. so all the way change is something and this means a defined to some extent is a united states on zola. so we share the same goal of different things. come us wednesday was ignited states as well as many of the companies a and a he will try to find a compromise on say,

it would go to docs in the spring because this issue becomes sent to the ends of next election. it would be more ridiculous. lisa, actually i will think about something about it. you'll see um if we just look at this, if, if nothing, you know, who was to full over this, i mean in the middle of israel still involved in a conflict in jobs. so what then happens? i assume you have new elections and then he stays on this to kind of take the probably minutes to doesn't deep i'm about it takes a long time from my experience of to organize elections in his route. he could still be prime minister quite a long time, even if he was toppled as well. if the, if the, if you believe public opinion posing the quite a no, continuously consistent that the public wants nathaniel out and not surprisingly so, so what these are needs is election manual paper that supported the nathaniel and includes volunteer. and the last election say outside that they don't want to see

that then you know, any more was 5 minutes. still not even the cold, because info. they're looking for something at the end of the day. what do we send? these are domestic and until nationally, the mess that these are these like know in the name of nathaniel always all over. it's where the foaming the most that i, twink and incompetent government in the country is a silver not being for the panels. folks. toville 7 at the, the judicial, the traditions this sort of distribution a on the independence of the tradition of a, what we seem to always go to the, to those this or because nathan, you always facing corruption tied. the style is starting to stay indifferently as 5 minutes to know though, also to stay possibly out of j and easily have to move forward with only if and when it's on the always out. you'll see thank you very much and thanks to all our guests today, e from inbox you'll see medical book and metro and wrap a pool. and thanks to you for watching,

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