areas of so dad were cinemas, were shut down to key to go and find stuff opposition to cinemas still remains. we just don't want films, so please suck up and leave last and the most of the done on out to 0 today and it has the world's largest number of displaced people. and the majority are facing fairly often more than a year of conflict for fighting is now spreading to other areas. so what will bring an end to this conflict? this is inside story, the welcome to the program and several, then you the people have sedan faced, the devastating conflict for a little more than a year. no millions of people have been displaced, thousands have been killed. and now there's a threat of famine agencies or warning. the nation of 49000000 people is at risk of

collapsing. sedan sits in a strategic area of northeast africa with 7 other countries, sharing borders and resources such as the nile river. so what are the regional implications of this conflict, and what can the international community do if anything, to bring sit in back from a nationwide food emergency. we'll put this to our guests in a moment. first though, this report from image and camp. they want sedans become the world's biggest humanitarian crisis. 18000000 people are going hungry. time is running out for millions of people, including $3600000.00 acutely malnourished children quad risk of famine. and they have displaced from the lands, living on the bobbins and cut off from here when he, terry and 8. he added a farm and will likely take hold in parts of the country. some production site, it could be 500-0028 1000000 deaths aid is very difficult to deliver.

when it gets through, it may be looted. fortune, you know, to 0 provence, dealt the bread boss, get the country as well as and with more than a 100 people recently code and the tax length on the rapids support forces. and this means even less be produced. 70 percent of health facilities in more effective areas and no longer functional according to age groups. with increasing parlance and hunger, that would be more refugees. knowing 1000000 people have already being displaced most internally but 1800000 set to neighboring countries, egypt chad, ethiopia, and start to see don who is a result of the conflict. again moving here, we're going between the omi and power minute tree rapids. the peak forces general up to thought to overhead is leading the seed needs on forces. we will not submit to, nor will we retreat to a surrender until they lay down their weapons these back

to will definitely. and did you pick tree of the suit and these people and the victory of the suit and these armed forces. while mohammed hung don zacalo as the head of the rapids support forces once before a kid by the seed of these only possible genocide has been reported in western doleful by the records of neat full season there. otherwise, coming up to 15000 people, the intense pointing continues in an old fashion in those doleful states pocket control. by this evening, these ami among which is not 3rd tuesday, are assessed and other groups. one of the things that to me captures just how invisible and or if it is war, is, is that we don't have a credible discount. we literally don't know how many people have died, possibly to a factor of 10 or 15. the number was mentioned earlier, 15230000, something gets at 850000. tarianna also says the conflict is at risk of escalating

the weapons flowing across borders. and for the people that see done, there appears to be no end to the suffering image in kimber. i'll just sarah the inside story, the time to bring in our guests in cairo. i'm god for read as kind of executive director of the sydney's think. think fick, roof of studies and development, and addis ababa, dr. le, didn't know good. a leadership member of the pro democracy movement. the civil democratic forces alliance. and in boston, alex devolved executive director of the world peace foundation based at the fletcher school at tufts university. a warm welcome to each of you. i'm good. let me start with this. is it possible at this point to say who is winning this war? we're about 12 months, 14 months into this who's winning the safety service, but actually the no one is a, uh, this is our, uh, so between 2 actors are both losing as the biggest loser. the existing varies,

varies uh in the back of easy because i'm getting the car back to the bar around the with the army or the losing ground. i'm beginning to ground the song of a is, but it's losing going over all over the control over that can be kind of the same thing as all as if you decide to use me, she has a mover and so not to have a project to hold on just a series, no. uh, any uh, sign of normal life, easy to use. uh, control by exotics and univision design and some of the use of deals internationally vc these items uh, competing these airforce designs. uh, move on to the, you know, be done on no mobile phones in bringing in to uh to the company. everybody's lucy found one of the this is, is i'm somebody needs me to use it other than i'm going to put essentially the same

question to you when i speak to my son needs, colleagues, they're telling me that, you know, within their circle of friends and relatives the general consensus is yeah, the, our staff is gaining ground the, our staff has the upper hand. what does it look like to you? a book you sent to assess for having me here? yeah. i think uh, what have you said is uh, the 2 that uh, the bbc reading before industry days. people that i barely told me to turn in crisis. uh like number of getting to the best people. if i mean hours on that that is that can you already post but yes, as you said, uh many when you speak with me on this, your day is going to say that the other stuff is getting the hang on the golf button. but uh, the actual question or the importance of was the minifee shields before who did you benefit from before and this is all right. ready uh, point to the, lets say brother book or the ncp, the region uh that you sold

a bunch of people that national congress bought the that was already in the country for the 2 years. and that inclusion was, uh, what, uh, the reason was from them and they, they get now from follow. and these be what i can say back. why did you say they are the beneficiaries of this war? yeah, just a simple question because uh they are getting use of this water uh to put this thing that needs to be put between the choice. busy continuing door with all their properties and they are going back to color because in the transition and uh after the insurance, this uh part to get it sold for all the social life. all the institutions were on their ministries and their biggest for this in the security secondary i, in the i mean the parties and instead of just about to be the both for this month. so that's why they did this more, especially the human that was asked to be this marketing this uh,

this bottom from the bottom, you know, from the security. so you're, you're accusing the stuff orders that you're choosing the supporters of a former president who has no jail tomorrow this year. and who is the pose of instigating this conflict between the r assess and the army so that they could ultimately prevail on a over a, a subsequently broken country. yeah, exactly, exactly. does this exactly what happened the disorder and the one of the team they have like $4.00 to $9.00 disorder. they weren't able to file a big or in this world. i actually need to finish on the audits. and most importantly, to finish on the civil side and distributed coordination that is at the, the submitted a $45.00 days on the function. if you want to use the payment, i can even because it's pretty much a month, one of these and see the other thing very clearly in this part of the general season, i guess it operates on 66 hour days or 2 weeks,

and then they go to the destruction of the infrastructure of the country. that is, this would i need him to help and to, to inform this what i chose, that they can be by the team to explore. and then they both are deceiving. what's the not happening right now? they stuck into our full the people and as been ahead of speech between the, between the tribes. so this is obviously not as of this uh to alex you've been a student of sedan for decades. does that explanation that we just here match with how you look at the situation? because we, we are talking about this conflict as a conflict between 2 parties, the are assessing the army and now they have the intel of this bill. he's telling us there's a 3rd party that's operating in the shadow of to, to try and be the victor essentially after the, after the, are assessing the army have, are done killing each other. i'm paraphrasing here. so i think see the exact origins of the outbreak of fighting some 1213 months ago.

always going to be contested to those accounts. and narrative septic was actually an under attempt to come by. a general i meant to you there are assess that was the immediate trigger on this no doubt that he has his science on, on the holding part and putting pumps to pay a civilian from to that. but i think the key point is that the fighting has started, but just trying to see if these state now it's destroying the certain these people, the question of the survival of millions of secretaries is in doubt. and as the war has gone on without a credible or an effective conflict resolution process, it has become entangled in regional and now doable rival rates. so until recently, i think the argument could be made that the keys to resolving this light in the air and welding and re out an apple dumpy. but now out of desperation,

i think because the suit, the signees armed forces has turned to the wrong. and to rush, while the uh, the recess is, is dumping down on its alignment with united arab emirates. and this is making an attempt to resolve it in almost impossibly complicates. and we will drill down on the, the regional tentacles of this conflict. but since you've all mentioned obviously that the, the biggest loser here is the sidney's people that we do want to put this highlight this and put this on the map right now. earlier in the conversation, this is alex arguably the biggest humanitarian crisis in the world, right? it is a numbers, the biggest displacement crisis in the world. there's no debate about that. more than 8000000 people have been displaced in some internally, some of cross borders and they've become refugees. so biggest displacement crisis in the world. but also there's a fam and moving for millions of people. so if,

if gunther is the most intense episode of the best of ation and of the well today sit on is the launch is by magnitude. the numbers of people are fed to the numbers blank. keep to die and it comes about not just because of the war, but because of the result, legacies of previous was the people who were displaced and previous was enough for and the new by mountains the, the food crisis and the collapse of the economy need. but most particularly the fact that the 2 key belligerents of both using stop ation as a weapon. so we are assessed, we can characterize as a live between machine ever with every wherever it carries like a swell have loved because it consumes everything necessary for survival, leaving the people absolutely desperate. while we ami generals on the other side, are you trying to strangle the are assessed by shutting off or material

access all surprised to carr seth control areas in the hopes that will bring the, the reset to its knees and in the process the suit. and these people are co, isaac, where between a i'm a and a pennsville and uh, descending into ferment on, on a scale that we just haven't seen pull up for decades. it's f. so good, both sides, both the, the r assess and the army have been accused of atrocities and violations of international law and human rights law. the r assess, in particular, is notorious they using sexual violence and for using starvation white. and i forgive me for this now you've question 14 months into the conflict, but why? why do they inflict all this pain on civilians whom their purport eventually at some point in time to govern if they win this war? that indeed is a whole is taking place. as i said earlier between 2 about 5. since we use

a quarter of this be the score of distributed solutions that have been updated by many small files by any. and when you call me and i'm going to small part of those are these feeds in nature. it's a 5 she needs. yeah. so as long as you stop least by then, but she, you want the brother, he's there uh, by the brother on to the, to, to conduct the center. most of these teams, they're behind right now. they are conducting the same sort of activities and so forth, disabled services, say a bit, 6 year, one how tools it can be used buying to provide the things that people buy. we need, uh, their products. and this is also maybe going to, uh, one of the factors that room g as a whole, which is, which is the amount that needs to be home,

then that is how about to start the one who's benefiting from me. so i didn't do as far as the sir for the jim dot like so i'm, he's done is i do the uh which allows me to get the info. but these are good, they're doing things. go on all of this. that is one of the, of me in order to define the people inside be resolved on it or x different things on. if i have an actual the, this was due by the diesel, all the meetings or distribution on these just those boxes are all difficult. repeat, understand, times one, but you can grab the changes on before we leave this within use um united states i believe those, you know, without exactly be just clear to some already been met. it is that's in the last 100 sage. the going be about to stop is old. all is me jimmy,

the sausage or even before before. it was a beautiful day of life, giving him to complete the deals and trying to create the tentatively energy store . disadvantages, i won't see from that joseph. these homes are here said killing. yeah. so the be honest, you don't over $100.00, the cd, you're getting a lot small. you need to give a one. the more on the stand it on the installer to give you the speed of the sake we're just going to do some good things. a little foggy, if this is a small city, the way to see the 5 years so that there was 55 julie bye. i mean go by the duties that are on time. illegal. the exact those safety by the way or the same as like being again his dollars. yeah. the are assess at that they were actually fighting uh,

the army in 3 camps outside the village that was ultimately attacked. the army and intelligence forces and the, the, the local civilian groups that have organized for a few years now in sedan across the country have said that more than a 100 people were killed. the un says if called for an investigation. and we don't know the exact circumstances of what happened, but there were, there were videos that came out of that of that attack that clearly showed many, 00. can you do the probably this is the just man and i told him that we don't exactly don't know exactly what happened once we know that there is 100 of these people that needs to get here to my daughter. so the 5 of the bottom to me, very small distribution was that there is no way to access the per 100 pounds. uh the yeah. the, the, you ingles, these are really about law. yeah. because usually it's not. if it's the case as

there is mobilizing the seeds, brian is kind of leaving out of unity. he's using the beautiful this at the heart price, all the things these prices. yeah, no, look they, they, you, it wasn't saying we're not sure if the, our staff is behind is that you and just wanted more information that did say that the videos emerging out of that event were absolutely heartbreaking. i haven't heard any voice in this conflict who came out and said no, the are as if is not behind this just to be just to be clear about that. you, when you do so from the i think it's the only is the, uh, the honest if you don't know. so for me is that there are people. what do you just defining circumstances towards the honors, it'd be in a conflict. any conflict usually ends when either one side wins or when both sides come to the negotiating table and strikes some kind of deal. do you see either of

those options happening that there been many peace efforts? none of them have come through between the r, assess and, and the army. and it also doesn't look like one side can convincingly wind militarily. okay, that's, that's an important question. and actually uh to ask this question is important to have a better. yeah. and it to a negative delta so, so i'm going to just say that to be executive, it actually is underneath the meeting the portal. 50 seconds. it's not much on this company or 30th day. what's the price? now there are 2 sides of that right now. there are 2 sides fighting is the, are assessing the army. they are the ones who are deciding sedans, future right now. uh, yeah. but, but actually, but actually the, once you put the, the mold, the little yellow t boned default. busy and the what i was benefiting from before and was responsible for supporting the piece black balls. and the sparks which is on board and 40 the bees that goes white people, they don't one or 2. and then another one and call this morning. and they on the

table, or do they have a decision on what's happening in the near future or in the low future or the apartments are also down. and this is, this is not that exec page. and what was happening, the sep, will say, brother, the comfortable and yet the printer and the i'm the just the introduction into the social life and their situation. so they point the television or video. they wouldn't behind the call in the 20 to 20. yes, it was done by the same at g, but let me say, okay, we have a mistake and we come back by the, the payment and the last agent and, but on the is let me just get off the before. so the issue and the complaint i hear what you said, i hear what you're saying you, i hear what you're saying you've and you've made that point. but my question is, let me take this to alex now, why have the peace efforts failed so far?

it's not like nothing has been done. it's not like there has been no diplomacy. there has been the jetta talks mediated by saudi arabia and the united states. there's been a patient based initiative under egypt. leadership, there's been, i got the african regional block. there been discussions in bahrain so they've been multiple attempts to bring the 2 sides are assess and, and, and the army to the negotiating table. none of it has worked. why? so normally we just worked on these efforts eventually cancel each other. oh, it's being really a dismal failure. fall festival american and united nations diplomacy. the americans gave the file to, to saudi arabia without the real plans of what to do. and very quickly, they got one agreement on a between the 2 sides on respecting civilians and providing to monetary and access which has been a deadlock to hasn't been observed. but then when it became clear that nothing was really happening in this process, in general, others began to pilot and it's been

a failure of effort come diplomacy. it's been a failure of or a diplomacy to i'm positive you along with, with many that the, the strings are really being pulled at in, in the middle east and the are well this, the road to peace and sit on, runs through re add an apple job in to some extent even develop, eats because of that as well, and indeed kind of wrote and i'm guessing with those plans on board. and i'm guessing it should understanding all the very least minimizing the damage standing . but everyone has that, that favorite horse in the ranks, but as the radius is run late, the rind is a forwarding an in into this air and into his neglect without any international leadership. the, the, the chaos that we are seeing is, is on folding. and it's getting more and more difficult with every posse month. so

i'm good, what's good? what's it going to take? you heard alex explain. you know, how deeply involved, many regional countries are in what's happening in sedan. the united arab emirates has been accused by a un investigation of supplying drones to the recess. iran is now reported to be supplying drums to the other side to the army, which also has egypt backing russia is now getting involved in possibly switching sides. because the wagner group was initially reported to be helping the, our assess, still are reportedly, but now the army is dealing with russian officials to maybe have an arms for port arms for port deal, right, where the russia would get a port on the red sea. and an exchange the army would get russian weapons. so it's all complicated and i'm not expecting to yours to necessarily explain like follow every little tentacle of it. but the point is to say there are plenty of countries that have an interest in what's happening in sedan. rent right now, and the question is with all of that in mind, it does that how, how can

a solution be found be found if there are so many diverging interest? yeah, i agree with you on how that some of the pieces equals the. the folks have been a product, there's nothing wrong the floor and the lack of a lot of hands. uh, sort of the structure of getting that by the way, the, the limit times i see for a demon. but there was never meeting blowing force man because you belong. now let's meet if you face to go ahead. zane said why? because in the morning does anyone fusion has always been so focused on the agreement? i think this is on, in the point i think we should just stop by initially the additional say the purgatory did, you know, i think it'll get him positive on the very last a on the projects and i'll send you an after that. we need to give it definitely because you said, i think because he said that then that means that if you just separate it from any

other one, if you don't have a new one, is that we need you need an invoice made, make any games. and one of the get to see kind of look what would that look like that there are these mckinney names that's on place these to get this done by for ease of course, is that so the, you're not going to drive it even better. and also that is uh doing for these drums out of the you said that last year actually the rate is going to be gone. so uh, with the source it is the additional so it's difficult to read, you know, sources. so what's needed right now, just the need a few of the you in for the to the use the spot. what the do you mind um all the security going to be utilizing each or how about how long does the server uh to be limited by just me getting seems to uh,

to be sure i see saturday so that the, even the smoke side where you can see, it seems more how big the visibility associated, but be a little bit of i vision that is all of this new the migration. uh, he's a see, i really need a few years so that he's never difficult to manage associated about the because the before we go into the f 150, choose united times batteries from dish. and then, what is it going to cost is that your company one get same results were committed crimes given to die. i look forward to is that if the police should know, it was ordered by the army needs reforms. i did want to size. uh, it's a bunch of, i mean the order was barely to move slowly, you know, dropped, and all that it needs to be dismantled and it's empty. just a matter of is the green way. does that mean that when we cut off,

i was they didn't do that, you're getting to be there. so you know, the existence things are okay. all it is a big to the parts of the community bought the engine was like drunk florida be so however they bought them to gave you an email to go to uh, hold to go. uh that is a function of videos. you know the 2021 and then after that they see that there is no, i mean to, uh, that was probably just the meeting on the terms of sir, the gentleman. that's all the time we have for this discussion today. we want to thank you very much for the time you've given us today. i'm good for reading tired . dr. la, the new good, and alex develop. thank you very much. thank you too for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website,

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