incidentally, your body as border with north macedonia and sylvia. the small town of 5000 people has almost reduced by health in recent years. so puts a note for lies and workers from nipple bacon stone and project is down to from his business. i still need the food into the often we see foreigners come here to live, so why people leaving there is no prospect. the development, the educational system is really lacking in young people. go abroad to study, and they don't pretend they just get good jobs in the west. north fall from his hotel is this has been school building. the project abandoned of to the 30s, realize the village, no children in the neighborhood. june, cindy is among sets of cities and bulgaria that reflect the countries the cute demographic crisis. it has one of the fastest thinking populations globally, the worst challenges in terms of most economic development, social development,

the loss of some of the young law. so the big majority of work here is population. and the loss of growth of the old agents overlays population and pensioners months in general, lasers slides i think, which in my opinion was expected to happen after the fall of communism. and the opening up on the west, it's migration crisis escalated off to bulgaria, joined the european union in 2007, the united nations development program projects. the country you will lose 23 percent of its population by 2015. in recent years, political instability and corruption have driven more young people from the country dissolution after lack of stability and progress, and the patient's health care and social services. and even in the judiciary and will be demographic was low. gavia is also struggling to contain new both rates with initiatives like jennifer has met in the tea leaves and attractive credit rates for you. some families seem to be having a positive impact for

a 1st time. we have 5 going to a baby born more than the year before. how can we create this change sustainable for more than a month and for more than 9 months. and the only way to do it is the vision of people wanted to the side of the bed is not the bog down is demographic crisis isn't new, it's population has been shrinking over decades with combined with all about migration, it's leaving bulk area, but fuel by getting consumption ready, i'll just 0 can spend 2 spoke at a and that is in use for now on algae 0. i'll be back with more of today's top stories right after the 19. thank you. ok, so we start with driving forces. those are what are the emissions going to be?

and it's not that easy. if you think about it, what are we going to be doing $3050.00, a 100 years from now? that's going to cause human beta emissions. how does the political system going to respond? how does the human psyche get a response? there you get in an area which is really impossible to predict. and the question then becomes, how do you fix up between these events? how do you recover from a hurricane before you have time to really fix it? damaged the question, i guess we might as of drake, that i'll pick up next time is why do we do nothing? thank you. the hi. actually appointments and i have a question. china is playing a bigger role in the middle east than ever, but can't compete with united states to be a peace maker between the palestinians and israelis. let's get to the bottom line. the last year,

after years of possibility between iran and saudi arabia, china was able to get both sides to agree to a d top. something that the united states was either unable or unwilling to do. now with the war on gaza and its 9th month, china has presented itself as a major power. it's less biased towards israel than the west. beijing is criticized israel for going well beyond self defense and argued before the world court that the palestinian use of force to resist oppression is there right and cannot be acquainted with terrorism. for years, china is been expanding its economic footprint and criticizing the world order run by washington. but will that translate to a bigger diplomatic and military role for beijing in the palestine is real conflict . and today we're talking with one who jo, president of the non governmental think tank, the center for china and globalization. and he's former advisor to the china state council, which is china is cabinet. that's one. thank you so much for joining us today. i know it's going to be an unusual show because, you know, typically we're talking about what washington thinks about the world. now i'm really interested in what beijing is thinking about the israel gas,

a conflict other conflicts. and you know, really china's role in the world and so i'd love to get your take on these real guys, a conflict. how is easing pain and the chinese leadership and the chinese population is looking at this conflict right now from your point of view. i guess i guess dave, uh for the for this uh show actually. uh uh, i think that the wall this wall has been dragged on for quite some time now is more than a half year and uh, it's really bad est into see uh, people sought for their and also that, uh, you know, the whole world is watching these and they're leaving the on a daily basis yet, and we cannot solve that to this crisis. i think the chinese positions gotten the position of cause uh is, is very clear john, i the very beginning come damsel kind of uh, you know, uh, violence. so uh, attacks on civilians. i mean that's very clear for, for china. but china,

i actually would like to see uh, you know, this is not really a goal will be on the uh, you know, the, the, the, the toner is, of the, of the human uh, you know, the security because we see a lot of the casualties of the civilians, we see a, there is a committed, tiring crisis happening. and then we see there's so much international effort. so international consensus is un resolutions wants to bring this in. want to to uh, you know, say as far yet we still have not seen that happening. that's really, really, i just bought it to i, i think, to, to, to manage fridays. and i really, uh, this made to, to read it to the want to see this was through continues. so we're hoping that we're going to really see a ceasefire. we're going to see some kids make things going on. and we see that to, you know, the whole world community and of course china can work with them to really stop is a crisis that they're really happening. uh, all right. is for too long to,

to lot of schools are beyond the imagination. you know, i was interested in the various chinese liter statements that from their perspective, that is real to actions right now and gaza have gone beyond the rationale of self defense. and i think that's a pretty bold statement from, you know, compared to others that china has made. and i've been to be honest, i think there, there are americans that may, rightly or wrongly they think they're fair to both sides. they think they're fair to palestinians and that they want, you know, to protect palestinians. but they have this relationship with israel that seem to have no boundaries. and i'm interested in how you see this and whether you see america in sort of a hypocritical moment. and whether or not um china is willing to weigh in more greatly to basically to say, to israel back off what it's called possible. i think that the, that exactly happen to us used to be the,

the replacement of cause. they are trying to maintain the, the sort of a hostile war order. but they are really looks very, very uncomfortable now. and then particularly all these cries that we see the double standard probably applied to, to the situation a southerly. uh there is and there is a large uh, influence of, of colors of the user in, in the united states. but, but that we even see about them for the diminishing and but, but did, but go to particular apartments about the yahoo actually uh still hang on the pilot there. and uh uh, you know, the wall is really beyond the, the, the, you know, the, what the, what the necessary goal is to, uh, to, to retaliate. i think those over 10 times more probably attach reduce or even 20 times more. which is, which is uh, which is a word beyond the imagination, the suffering of the, of what human is hiring people the way location of the one problem 5 told me in the

part of standing on the god that street and the particularly we have seen these cries is going on the under the, the, the do you know, the casualties of the children, the woman i know there's a sufferings about that displayed on a daily basis and you're leaving room. this is really beyond the people's imagination. so i think the china actually of calls us that probably its, uh, its average china has been, uh, talking to uh, old bodies. my big originally john as a minister of somebody until the up arrow. but minister meeting with chinese leaders. i think john, as uh, you know, really, hopefully that, you know, we should really solve is fundamentally, was, was to stay solutions, ways to ways really stop the fight and of a c inspire, you know, let's gather you in resolution uh you, in place and the really to put this uh, uh, to the end up being the basis really uh, you know, really law, me and i thing unbearable poverty with such a kaiser is going always such

a large attach a deal, the civilians, which is a really a totally beyond the, you know, control, i think that that is really very unfortunate, very tragic. i think chinese government and john is people who is really getting more and more uh, you know, really attended much attention on his, on his cries in law and wants to get involved and wants to help. absolutely, this is a, there's a great desire on, on the chinese side to, to really want to see a piece for making going on as a reason to the chinese government as a announcement good to donate the 500000000. i'm be a full team anytime aid to the people in gauze. ok, i would really calling for open know the china is open all the rest of june packages and really say the situation improve and and the state of crisis stop. we all woke up in washington dc, one day to the news that china had had play this key role in normalizing relations

between saudi arabia and the wrong. and i tell you if there was a whiplash effect, people said, my goodness, that was sort of america's terrain. and that sort of what we did and, and china in a way, jumped into a role that we hadn't seen before. i'd love to get your insights and not only with israel, gaza, but china is, you know, kind of new diplomatic mission around the world. the role in, in, in surprising ways and, and what is driving that right now. actually i think china know how does actually increase the it says a soft ball, but in the salt spit using the joseph nice term to because of china. i, you know, know as the open bob and, and the last for the 5 year john and growing to the 2nd largest economy and trying to become the largest trade image was over 120 countries. so the worst the ad plus bird is vital to china's grows and, and prosperity as well. so,

so what has happened these, that china, of course, for example, you imagine about, in those made a piece do, forest, rudy, that any ron is, which is great because china is the largest the trading nation was both countries. china buys a logic older and i'm 90 percent probably be out there aspect of it and it just to china and to the war probably. and then that's really a big good influence. so i think that the, the, the information but particularly uh, you know, from what it is and probably if i'm either use stuff on the iran impala view and they also had the see the nice in positions. they want to have a ladder to calm down, and then they don't want to do is sort of the us. so you, because, you know, they were involved in the us was involved in the was and either in the amount of conflict between them either is the so they may have somebody nice on the clean me some but incredible. i like somebody never had to evade it. or never have altered by the any of the territories. and that china is the largest treated nation with

all of them. and it's very natural for them to come to china. and china is willing to engage more to, to make the peace. but it's, it's to the chinese interest and also to the warm pulse markets. so i think that's what happened. what has happened for making this to between a user and a bit into your ronnie and, and so what is because of china is really wants to show who down to, you know, the friend who is both countries, a one jonathan priest don't do it, please let stop, give me a face, stop it. and then they probably will don't, because they, they respect china as the 2 largest traded invasion of, of both of their contracts. so it's about happening actually in a be those even for the, for the, for the god, the conflict. china is the largest stringent result are but nations, china, the 2nd largest trading asian was the israel. i think china used to maintain both as good relays with both arable and a 0 above and a time when calling for china interest. that being said look. busy you know, let's, let's really come to the end and that's really solve this issue. and the find

a solution to that. and probably china, but think of now is global solves, would have more influence on china. originally, it is something ways, the 0 a 6 point piece of time for a for ukranian and, and roger and conflict and the i, the turkish for me is to convert those things to do a few days ago. imagine and the saying that the talk is also would like to what was china to help on those conflict in, in a me that is the only in uh, you know, russian on your credit. so. so i think there's a lot of things that to china come play a more active uh, uh, you know, peace, me making and peace me the agent role now then used to be so, so i think it's also because china has a vested interest to see a more prosper and more stable book just for work that is really binding site and both drawn on the war. do you think there's a pathway with the international institutions to be more effective in these

complexes? i have to tell you my, my view is secondary general once it can't do it. what, what are the, is there a resolution besides just having constant paralysis in some of these, you know, horrible bleeding ulcers in the world that involve real people's lives? absolutely i, i think that, uh, you know, organization like you and, and, you know, also the security council could do much more. absolutely. the problem i see that now is that we're having all those problem in the world. so much conflict and on top of that climate change, you know, yeah, i saw a secretary good or is, was mentioned today, you know, we should stop using all those up for you and the gasoline advertisements and things like that. so there's more challenges appraising, given the eyes to be combined, uncertain emmanuel, a spec. so i think the big, big power, major power should really gather back together and work together. for example, at the you show the gaza. i will do it really is it said that why can we send the

un peacekeeping force to the station there and actually separate the uh, the, the, the, the conflict, the parties. i'm not making sure that there's a still space solution be implemented because it also. and so the, the fundamental china is that the, those baird power sometimes with different views of the, you know, they actually have a, you know, company come on them, solve the sanctions, the trade was and all those things going on. you so, so that the difficult to reach consensus, but even, you know, even the united nation rates are concepts as national security risk because as, as you, it says, it doesn't have a binding power sometimes. so it's really absurd to say don't happen. you don't, i mean for the secular cause of the, what is really the bad rolled up the war piece and that is really the, the things we, we, we started off to the 2nd world war. i know such a powerful country is formed the united nation and that's a good cause a kind of stop. busy or small original, you know, you know, cause i,

that's really absurd. i, i really think united nation should be, should just standing. it's a, a implementing a power actually been, you know, like you wouldn't peacekeeping for, should be actively employed. use the in stop the guys outside and the that's really i think what we can do and also being able to just stay solution, you know, proposed by, of the, you know, your getting congress recognized by it. but it's also proposed by china and given us the object that present by the nose, us as post a solution. why can't we implement that? i mean, there's a concerns of what to stay solutions. let's start, let's, let's, you know, get the resolution on that to do it so, so this is really, fundamentally we have to solve that problem. otherwise it's really incompetent. not only for the domestic politics, but international politics. we're power lives. and now we go to the, those, not the officers, i'm new challenges on a new cartridge that, that are going to happen more so we have to really put all acts together and to

stop these war and, and making peace immediately, such a powerful comment. let me ask you a question. more about a geostrategic picture in economics, you know, is real view a, the india in united states have announced a new effort to open a cord or from asia to europe. maybe it's a different form of a belt and wrote initiative japan is announced a new global partnership with united states and looking at is china feeling any of that pressure or you feeling very comfortable with what you've got? you know, i think you actually will. i me with is a, is a positively, you know, 10 years ago, 10 to 15 years ago. nobody is the think about the global solves only initiate in a go. but the bottom project on china been down, you know, or 11 years of china proposed about enrolling initiative, which is great and all it, it's really i agree it's, it's a god that chad never reactions. all of that. all the congress got into really looking for this infrastructure deficit, the global you structure deficit. so united states football is a big bug,

whether war bass or w and you propose a global gateway. i know we have an indian you where you and your boss say ok, the indian uh your economic carnal. great. if all the countries wants to put more investment, you know, putting more projects into this, we'd be very good for the payment. now when we say a lot of times being part. busy but not really saying much actions, for example, but don't really need to for the last decade. the match, the don't over one trillion us dollars. i bill the streets, all them project, but it'll rask developing countries. so what are the other countries of the concrete, the, the 3 adults will you have to be seen, but i would like to see the concerns is on the global universe. doctor baptist metro work together. you know b, i b, sir, www. goble gay. doing india you, me to use the your because on the card. well, that's all combine that. hold to come by. let's use one back. let's use the age of info starting to mess one back agent the bottom back asking to develop and back.

you know, you open to them back. let's go though the follow backs the share a similar charters and the white kindly worked together so. so i really see that the climate change is one of the big concerns is infrastructure deficit repairs. i'm not a conservative, but let's work together. uh, you know, robert, that we're all going the different directions on quality and they did a lot of redundancy and waste. so i would really like to see how we can work together and try to walk comes the form is the one you said b r i is walk up the ser wu, a global gateway, a lot of the similar initiative to join hands that to work together so that will be a china's book approach. henry, let me ask you a question about russia, china, a, say, russia, ukraine, since you mentioned that, do you suspect there are more things that china can do in terms of putting mediator of nudging it's friend without boundaries? russia and ukraine into an arrangement that would end the war and conflict between

russia and ukraine. we're weird or raise your thinking in that as well. actually, i'm in china as a, as a gradually filed a, this is a, this is ready to go all the about a and about post tunnel a set up right. beginning, you know, i wonder what boat called the sovereignty charge. i enjoyed, it should be respected, but while when i shall come to the agent present, she said no nuclear weapon should before you. great, and should be utilized there. i'm evelyn, present. my com can present, she called the presence allows you to ride off of that. so china is really a, be a substantial play or no, uh into this john, i have a stop. i am well impass of the way it was a traveling the business related to countries and always say, you know, if it was a sub, this nato and the west beloved. uh, you know, uh, coalition is really not able to really put the angel this war vendors. there is a global solid is really getting very annoyed into account is like brazil,

like turkey, india and sauce separately. they will want to me, they want to do something. i think china is, is actually play more role now to you and you have agreed terms with those, uh, uh, you know, long non comm sleeping countries. right. you know, russia is by the way, with the, with the waves and they told you, but the child and all the, all the goble saws as not in the frightened bodies. so they could be really, really in a good position to be a mediator, to be a peacemaker. and as i say that happened in china, just so you should have statement was a brazilian and told you the form is things in page in the grid on those many of those points. so i say more and more about john a couldn't be a more, a peacemaker and mediator for these guys, of course would want to work with you as an you to work together. but, but the, the, the position of a child is clear. you know, if it's piece making that's got all the complex parties to the piece making please talking ok summit. rather than just wasn't excited. let's get both sides to call

them to talk to all to. and this was a through dialogue. so the goes uses through a communication and i think that is really the john his point. one of the questions is, is the bricks itself paralyzed in its efforts of the tensions between india and china, within bricks keeping it from playing in the role? do you take the bricks, notion seriously as an alternative way to think about how you know power and frankly, global problem solving gets done and we'll, we'll make this for our last question, but i would love to hear your thoughts. yeah, yeah, thank you. if that gets there, but i think this is a great question actually. you, you said that the bridge suite was one of us. and so you can now me go, but i vision, you know, that that's actually the, the attraction. we see the base country dog over the last year. i know we've seen the purchasing power to power of the brakes is already larger than g 7. and the adults cause also uh the, the brakes. uh, there's another ton is on the calendar lined up to john briggs. i know that the you

need to talk is it for me to start told me at suzy june, that he's going to attend briggs plus assignment, and that next next week, or sometime. so. so i think, you know, this is really important that even though there's ideologically, or maybe, uh, the companies start maybe different, but breaks country all the favor economic globalization in favor economic development. i'm not subtraction of a big countries where the you know, all the, all the other lies. 1 security or security of his eyes. oh, well, made it to realize, we see the nato expanded. we see 5 lives. we see all colors. we see quad that we see comp, baby do you know, or you name it all the lives by the way to produce a lot of the bread, the bundled, but really the increases the minute our budget of all the country so. so i think that the final, really a solution to that is we still have to keep the pos biology and the hidden band to the possibilities of the biggest risk. and we cannot really, uh, take the,

you know, we have to avoid that risk. so, so the risk that the best buy it is really the biggest risk we're having though. so i think we have to really push continuously, hold economic, go by vision, prosperity. i think about exactly what john is doing, trying to do with the bill photo really in this day of john as a a, i be a much running investment bank trying to join the c b b. b wants to job that on china is a part of the us impede the largest free trade agreement award and trying to wants to have a you know, all the economic, the cobra just saw. i mean, it was african, not the american oscio, central asia and gulf countries. china is the big country personally because i think over others actually i see the brakes are too large that you know, they want to be the bottom. there's a good nomic organization continue. so, so i see the difference of these are, you know, uh, brakes is not even though they are not really a so established. so they're still needs all the room to improve. not perfect,

but that thing they were present to the right trend i'll be can on the go, but i vision continue. and of course, that is word oh, those brakes country, global sizes that are fine all from the global knowledge because when they don't care, they are getting on the development that much now. and then the current more problems with, you know, oh the security issue. oh those oh, those increase me that or a budget i know those issues and that's where a squeeze the saws go besides. now there's, there's multiple back to anger, to the property. and that's where i think breaks represents a new alternative. i'll be can nominate governance issue where if we're not working together, that alternative will become one more attractive. fascinating one who? yeah, founder and president of the center for china and globalization really appreciate you for joining us today. thank you for your candor. back to sleep. so what's the bottom line? everybody hates the enforcer of the rules. but the hard truth is that the world needs enforcers, whether we like it or not. why? because some conflicts cut so deep that the warning antagonist just can't find the

balance that delivers safety and justice from each other. so the enforcers may global rules, which of course tilt in their favor for almost a century the u. s. is believe it, it alone is the premier diplomatic, economic and security for solving global disputes. and of course it resolves things its way. but more recently, other countries are entering the field. china is reasons are clear. geo political competition with the united states. i don't think china has deep roots and concerns about either palestine or is real. but on the other hand, if it can get some credit with air of states, india, ron, by playing a balancing role in the crisis, then all the better. and that's the bottom line. the of the us is changing. why aren't we? we have civil cells from the living world alley re uncovered,

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