may not be a city a to do some of those big groups and i'm joined by maggie will come here today. at maggie. why is it important to you to be here today? what you want from the next income and governments here, and i want the government to put nature 1st. you know, i'm part of that generation where we destroyed the natural world. and i'm here with thousands of other people who are standing up for nature in particular, i'm standing up for speech these that are on the edge of extinction in the u. k. including god. is this one of the deciding issues of the next election? it is the environment is the most important issue for me in this selection. i live in north norfolk on the coast. and so i dropped her, jumping on our beach. and so that's something i, i'd see that every day doing beach queens and other environmental activities. and if it's part of stop. thank you so much maggie. and what might be saying here is reflecting goals. so what we had from a lot of the people here and also

a paul from an organization here and you k that found that 77 percent of 1st testing that the government. so neither political pods is not doing enough to pledge how to help the environment, so it's shaping up to be an important political issue. and while the beaver took out a hit, they sent me hired that by being here, it will pressure whoever is next is below the just give us an idea really of a police presence. we seem demonstrations on the range of issues in the british capital in the weeks leading to the general election. how would you describe the atmosphere of a, of the it's a very joyous, a very relaxed atmosphere. there's lots of families here. people die by a just very young to, to elderly. i'd say the people in wheelchairs, eighties, you know, lots of different groups marching under the same umbrella that we are used to seeing people like just the oil ad extension, rebellion duty,

those low monitors where they disrupt the traffic was throwing perhaps pains. oh, steve, at various things, none of that is happening today. it is a very calm, sedate march, with lots of music. lots of logan's will. people who are saying is that they are united on the same cause and they're trying to show that whatever fraction of say, the natural, the bill times the people that we've spoken to you today say the best way to put pressure. and to show that there's lots of people united behind this issue today is to make it a really. * enjoy for the delay that we have to leave it instead of enjoying on youth teams later with the news. all right, that way. and that's it from atlanta and from us. so we'll see you in half an hour difference during

the correction which is the selection that the best news from across the the as israel continues its own slot in gaza. progressive joyce groups across the world have protested in solid verity with palestinians. so is there a generational shift within jewish communities when it comes to israel and palestinian liberation? and if so, how sustainable is that conversation is coming up with 1st ceasefire talks between from mass and israel have stalled smoking fears at the world as it has no image in inside. meanwhile, in the west bank, palestinians have continued to rally, install it. they are already with god in the midst ongoing raids, interest will discuss the situation in the west bank and the future parents. the

leadership with this week's headliner from ramallah, journalist and ryder didn't by the name, but i go to thanks so much for joining us on upfront. thank you for having me ma'am . right now, more than $31000.00 people have been killed so far in israel siege on guys of the humanitarian situation on the ground is becoming even more dire. i mean guys are struggling for survival. a quarter of the population is facing starvation. i know you have friends, family in guys a what's the situation like, what are you hearing on the ground? and it's, it's such an important question to ask. and yet one of the most difficult ones to capture because no words and no videos can really showcase the struggle of just being alive of just having another breast hour by hour. that is 31000 killed by

direct air strike. we still don't know the actual numbers and including those that were denied medical care and including those that are dying from lack of medicines and access to medical care. those that are injured. and so coming to wounds that the numbers really don't show you the reality of every single day, people having to go and scout and scavenger for whatever food that they can find. and this is a man made problem, this is, this is a condition that is created an enforced tactic, land strategically by israel. and it's not just kill through air strikes. that is for the destruction of any infrastructure less than a day. but it is to the capacity of the palestinian population there and it is to quite literally kill them in order to pay the way for building new israeli settlements, which as we have seen already is rarely politicians and representatives are pushing forward the building of new settlements. in with us, while the international focus,

of course has been on it as a, there's an important attention that needs to be paid as well to the west bank. and i see protest, i see rallies of support going on there. but i also see an increase in rates, arrests, killings, etc. what's been your experience since october 7th, with how good the conditions are in the west bank. the conditions in the west bank are dire and of course for polish things in the west bank. there is that recognition and expectation that as soon as israel finishes with besides the, it's going to begin intensifying attacks and the wellness bank and seller attacks against palestinians are increasing and is really ministers are arming. is really settlers who are legal in the west bank with new assault life rifles as they have been since october 7th. and then adding to that, i think, in light of the travesty and how profoundly violent the,

the attack of israel on that as it is that we're not able to fully process and understand the level and extent of attack that is happening in the west bank. israel is using aerial bombing through drones on palestinian civilian homes. it is locking up refugees in their own refugee camps, including elderly and children for days at a time. now imagine being locked in your kitchen for 3 days, you're 80. you have 0 access to your meds. you have 0 access to a phone, and that's become the norm here. you're talking about the increasing settler attacks. there was a response to that, present a bite and decided after the night of nations documented more than $570.00 attacks by settler since the october 7 war began. and he has said he would impose financial sanctions and travel bands on individuals guilty of attacking palestinians and quote, undermining peace, security and stability in the west bank, of course, has a lot of debate about the effectiveness of these sanctions. and even if they're

being enforced, what do you make of the president biden's choice to do that? i think president biden is very much on brand in terms of american administration and their foreign policy the president by then a loud and sponsored and funded israel during this ongoing ethnic cleansing and genocide, old practice has been committed in that as so to say that hey, we're gonna hold few individuals accountable, but we're going to actually keep empowering. the redeem is merely a symbolic gesture for history books that really conflate what happened in reality and what was said and public meetings and press conferences. i think president biden's trying to say face, but even in that mood there was no recognition of israel's in apartheid region. there was no recognition for palestinian right on, on this land to live freely and with dignity. it was more of let's try to curbs

settler attacks the little bit because it's kind of getting noisy in talking about this relationship between the us and in israel. and of course what's happening in, in, in guys and westbank. it made me think of something that happened last sunday. a real estate show was held at a synagogue in teaneck, new jersey, where a number of companies were pitching, land, and properties in israel and the west bank to potential american buyers. now while illegally encroach on the west banks certainly as a new, a vince like the seem to be coming more and more to the for in the us, canada, etc. oh, what do you think about that? well, why do you think it's happening now? so the, the is really practices of continuing the encroachment on palestinian lands, of course, hasn't stopped even during this ongoing aggression after october 7th, we've seen israel continue building the apartheid wall in areas such as janine north of the west bank and other areas as well. and in terms of the united states and canada and selling areas of land here are

marketing lands here to buyers and abroad. and allowing that to continue, especially during the genocide is very telling of how is real is a colonial state. this is how it began by trying to sell palestinian lands on to others and inviting them to come here. but you need, there's also another layer to it is happening in that regards. the united states and canada have actually been pushing for palestinians to apply for visas. and asylum in the united states and canada, especially canada, has really been promoting palestinian departure from here and trying to build new lives there. and it shows you how the form of the population ethnic cleansing has a bureaucratic layer and the, and that's where foreign policy also allows for the facilitation of our, the population as well. did you have any fear about that as a kind of big picture in game? i mean i'm thinking about a few days ago, i spoke to

a doctor that looks different. hospital in 31 of his family members had been killed his thing to conduct surgeries in the hospital, but he's actively taking his family to egypt. and i said to him, hey like, are you not worried that you're not going to be allowed back in? just back in 1948 he's i can't worry about that right now. people to die. so between the pressures of being pushed out from, from the threat of the bombings to the kind of diplomatic, political and economic incentive to go around that around the world. are you worried that this product, the portal itself, deportation is going to be effective? i think we're only flesh and bone. and i think as palestinians, you have, you know, their family that you love any friends and how can you ask anyone to just keep taking it? just keep leaving the bombs, just keep failing your body, eat itself and trying to push yourself a little further to go get some water. so it's understandable because i myself,

i'm, i'm having to interest people. i love and colleagues as well and help facilitate their evacuation from, with, as a to egypt. and that, that's, these are like impossible missions to an extent. you have to pay almost $5000.00 to $7000.00 per adult and $2500.00 for a child to form an extortion in order to be able to leave a place that is being slaughtered. that is a slaughter house. i do think that the end goal is to guess evacuate, palestinians that indeed populate them. this is part of the strategy forced them to fleet. the creation of a humanitarian crisis is a tactic. the denial of water entry is a tactic the forcing global powers to feel like they can do anything except now we're seeing the dropping of humanitarian aid, which is actually resulting in the killing of palestinians and the destruction of hospital infrastructure rather than actually feed starving population yeah,

i see us being the populates, but at the same time again, we're only flesh and bone which is why we appeal to the international community, which is why we asked for in demand for the opening over at alpha. both ways. not one way because yeah, we do see these tactics and we've seen what they've done before. but what's different now is the recognition of what happened in 1948 and all the demands of what's to come now that this palestinian and it needs to be seen as palestinian. the west bank as palestinian jerusalem as palestinian. yeah, suffered palestinian. these were taken in 1948 jerusalem 1967. israel's trying to take what remains in 2024. but if we bring back that knowledge, then these tactics would just fail. it's, it's, it's on us to decide whether these tactics fail or not, rather than to play someone that has been starved and try to demand of them to

endure this monstrosity. what role does a leadership play in that? one of the things that comes out of house city and civil society, one of things we've seen emerging is a kind of sense of distrust and disillusionment with a lot of the leadership including the palestinian authority, which is the governing, of course body, which administers parts of the west bank, uh, do you see the p a playing a role in the future either of westbank or guys and, and, and if so, is that a good thing? you know, i constantly find myself stuck between laughter and tears when it comes to that because the palestinian authority has aided and abetted as well as genocide and any talk about a future rule. how, what a plan can you please a little bit about how a lot of people that lives in counter intuitive? right. so the palestinian authority basically came into power $199495.00, was supposed to be an interim government. but instead began receiving funding that by the united states and germany to create a police force. essentially,

that is trained in riot control rather than defense because the west bank was the militarized, under the also agreements. and the palestinian authority took on a role as a proxy army for israel in the west bank. as you see, israel's always saying, why don't you insure our security. so the palestinian authority at arrest palestinians on behalf of israel. it has supported israel. and this is why no one really sees any hope in them. but it is this heartening that for example, a lot of the questions threw out just even before the store was, well, do you condemn him ass instead of really trying to 1000 to what had this is. it is a political party that has grown in contract affect the and then you have the consent brigade, which is the ongoing for him as currently fighting on the ground. and rather than asking palestinians, well what is your imagination of a political party? and that's where this becomes difficult because we've been focus so much on trying

to answer the very much irrelevant questions. little room was left for palestinians to have radical imagination in terms of designing and imagining a new future for them. the who said the leadership choices is reduced to these 2. that's the american system. for us, it's very different. and we've seen leaders come out in times of meet when palestinians with an uprising in the streets, and they found no one, they found each other and they created leadership from the ground. so the ground birts leadership and i think everyone's concern about palestinians, and the deluxe. guess of leadership is because they don't know who to speak with. but for palestinians we are, you know, very much creating in community. and if it's not the soul who is the palestinian leader, why to negotiate? how much more of our lives can be taken or resources taken rather than asking will . okay. these really leadership is corrupt, being led by

a prime minister that is corrupt, whose leaders have a history of committing crimes against humanity and enforcing apartheid. i don't understand why we don't focus on, for example, how we can dismantle that leadership in order to empower and, and help palestinians build their representatives freely. not with a choke hold on, i'm not able to go through. thank you so much for joining us today on a front. thank you so much for having the mark. the since october jewish communities around the world have mobilized and solidarity with palestinians calling for an end to israel's brutal campaign in gaza. here in the united states, record numbers of american jews have joined anti occupation groups like jewish boys for peace. and if not now in some of the largest demonstrations for palestine that we have ever seen. many have noted that even before october, 7th,

a growing number of jewish people across a diaspora had been questioning, not just the actions of israel's government, but the very idea of a jewish state, especially one that comes at the expense of palestinian lives. how about sending a freedom in palestinian self determination? so are we seeing a significant shift within jewish communities when it comes to israel and palestine liberation? and is there an opportunity for lasting change? joining us to discuss is rabbi alyssa wise, founder of rabbis for cease fire and former co executive director of jewish boys for peace, and were also joined by eva bard, what national sports person for, if not now. well, thank you both for joining me in upfront. all right, bye. i'm going to start with you. uh you have said since october, 7th, jewish anti zionist organizing against genocide has erupted on an unprecedented scale. peter, by known a jewish parents, predicts, quote, questioning the idea of jewish statehood. will be a current in american jewish life that it has not been since the american jewish

scientist consensus was established. in the 1940s. you've been a leader within the jewish left for decades. is this like a a turning point when it comes to the question of israel? i think so for sure. one of the things that we've seen in this time is that the organizing that actually been happening for decades is coming to fruition, right? so i think that what's happening right now in the jewish community is there is a calling of the question, right? who are we on a moral and communal level? and how far are we willing to go to defend israel and the jewish state? you know, i think for a lot of people who have not yet been called off the sidelines on this question, they're being called off now because there's no way to be neutral on this question . you either are standing against the mass slaughter of palestinians and gaza or your for there's really not anywhere in between. even research shows that a younger american jews are becoming increasingly critical of israel even before

october 7th. and there was a growing generational split between the american jewish community when it comes to israel and the occupation. oh, why do you think we're seeing this generation on divide? now? i think there are a couple of reasons. i mean, the things that many young jews are taught growing up on the sort of miss solid gee that the, the v is, is successive is really government's have required to be able to claim jewish support around the world, which they need. it depended on for their foreign policy. that mythology is dependent on the house and he is not being fully human. and then young jews go to college with pals to me and peers, or they follow young palestinians on social media in this moment they see how this to me is broadcasting on instagram, the genocide that they are going through at the hands of the is really government um, and there's a shattering that happens of all of the different mythologies of like a land without a people for a people without a land on the idea of being the most moral army in the world as id of soldiers

right now are posting videos of the war crimes are committed on social media on and young jews are saying wait a 2nd. the values that we were raised with of justice and equality are totally in congress with this. and we refuse to check them out the door when it comes to the post and people and i was raised with, you know, it's overwhelming amount of holocaust education. i feel very, very clear on what has happened to so many jewish people um during the 20th century . and so it should not be a shock to anyone that i'm out in the streets resisting what i see as an attempt to wipe people out. what was i taught in my jewish education? if not the ability to recognize and attempt to wipe people out when i see it. and that's why thousands of young jews are in the streets right now or otherwise. in october, you founded rabbis for c spine. you have said that jewish teachings actually demand in, in to israel's honest lot in guys it, can you explain what you mean by that?

uh, well, i mean the truth is, one couldn't approach the sacred text of the torah with any lens, right? it. so we had rabbits for us, these bird choose to read it to pull out its ethical and moral core. and when we do that, what we see is that the most sacred obligation that there is for people of faith, jews, and not just use christians, muslims. everyone is the idea that all people are made in the image of the divine. and what that means is that we must treat each person as sacred and each life as sacred itself. you follow down that road, right? if that's your central spiritual obligation, then how does this massive slaughter and gaza? how does the denial of food and water, and medicine destroying hospitals, where you know, the humanitarian crisis, like if you can even begin to like, wrap our heads around that, right? it's such a desecration of the divine. and for us that rabbis receipts are we pull on these

threads of jewish respect a little bit, somebody who has it mets abstract though, right? there are actual people died. 1139. use that on october 7th. and there's an abstract question, but then as of the, the literal and immediate urgency of protecting jewish lives right now, in israel. what do you say to those? i think that it's a mistake to think about the mazda attack as an anti semitic attack. i think the mazda attack was an attack that was targeting is relays and these real estate for decades of dispossession and occupation in apartheid. and so it's part of israel's project has been to completely conflict zionism and judaism. so we are meant to understand that anything that israel does, they do kind of as a jew in the world. but it was not a jew, israel's, of state. and they need to be dealt with and treated as any other state. what with the same account abilities, and i think that when it comes to we understand what is our object,

our moral and spiritual obligations. and this time is, you know, as the persian port room, you put it best of, i come into the world at these see this, the sword dropping from their hands even at the ark of their rage because we understand there's just one flesh to wound. and that's the idea. there's just one flash. you can't kill palestinians and torture palestinians in the way that israel's doing and not think that that doesn't also cause injury, whether physical or moral and spiritual to the jewish people. and as rabbis we feel an obligation are we took on a responsibility when we became rabbi is to serve the ethical core of jewish people and it, it, we wouldn't be doing our jobs if we still decide lightly israel permits these heinous for crimes. so we're going to moment a moment of great public awareness outrage pain, and considerable organize, and specifically in the american jewish community. do you see us building on this

on this and try it, trying to a full fledge movement this work? i think this is definitely a turning point in the days after october 7th. the thing that was happening in the streets were that american jews, many of whom had lost, is really friends or relatives on october 7th and people who were murdered in that attack. as well as palestinians who had had relatives murdered in the decades before and in the weeks and months since we were together in the streets saying, we will not be divided from each other. our safety and our futures are tied together. this is not about size. this is about humanity and whether or not we can have a shared future as humanity and, and against a us foreign policy. that was, you know, sending funding bonds to the is really government ostensibly on behalf of jews with use industry alongside policy and saying absolutely not on this is the total and

complete breakdown of the idea that you can have your safety at the expense of palestinians. and the alternative is emerging in the streets where people are saying, actually what we need is equality and justice and freedom for everyone. we need safety for everyone, and that's how we'll secure a thriving future for all as well. i was what do you say? you know, one of the things that i'm watching carefully now in the past couple weeks is how more and more people are calling for cease fire. right? those web sit on the sidelines for a long time, right? it's been very troubling to see that it's not just the right waiting, but the middle, the center of the jewish community has gone along with this war. but you know, they, a lot of liberal organizations attended the war rally that happened in november where john, hey, he of christians, united for israel spoke and at a certain point the, the crowd was challenging. no, no ceasefire. right?

but somehow that is more palatable than being on the side of peace. right. and they have stood against. and so i think that the, the reckoning that is have in the jewish community is going to take years to resolve. but i think those that are calling for cease fire now are doing so very carefully to not align themselves with the broader piece movement. and i think they do that at their own peril. because in this time, up until this point, there has been at least within, for example, the christian community, a kind of what mark ellis, the ecumenical deal were in exchange for forgiven christians for the guilt of their role in the holocaust christians. go along with support for israel, but this is a time breaking of that because there's is a moral limit, right? those kinds of commitments can only go so far, but one is real, crosses a line which as they've gone way beyond crossing a line. at this point, um, people are no longer going to be willing to stay silent on their critique of israel, which the jewish community demands for peace and inter faith relationship. so i

think we're going to see a total reworking of the ways that alliances are working across space across race or cross movement. and in the wake of this, i think the whole jewish community map is going to be redrawn either by what. right, by this wise man. thank you. everyone's that is our show up front will be back. next ask, we can stories from african perspectives, the museum, it is the menus to same se mailbox from some people to short documentaries, by african filmmakers from the media and gonna, knowing that i'm active, you contributing to the change. it's really a rewinding feeling,

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