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machine is decimating entire households and because the words of those who survived and with the help of the palestinian generalists phone lines, toes, the heralding story of 3 families and investigates us complicity in the world's most brutal in decades. the night old n biden's wanted us to hold on just either the is what was prime minister said to address a joint session of the us congress next month. benjamin netanyahu, his 1st trip to washington, since he lost his devastation on god. his speech could have big political implications for presidential by them and as well. so what might happen? this is inside story, the
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hello and welcome to the program. i'm elizabeth put on them next month, as well as prime minister benjamin netanyahu will address the us congress. he'll make history is the only word later to do so for a full time underlining the extent of his very power and influence and us politics for joe biden. it presents a tricky political challenge in the middle of a presidential campaign for nothing. yahoo, it's a challenge to turn the screws and show as wells klaus and washington america has been as real as main supply for it's devastating one, gaza whitehouse needs has developed as the war progresses and the election loons closer than now who has plowed on regardless, ignoring us statements, so what will be the impact of this trip both and the us and for nathan, yahoo and as well, we exploring all this and lots more of, i guess in a few moments. first, this report from laura con, united states and mr. diplomatic spot seems to be driving
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a wedge between the us and it's ray. the lead as it comes is benjamin netanyahu is set to address a joint session of the us congress next month. nothing yahoo has already voices and about the us pulse again on the shipment of 900 kilogram booms. i said, it's inconceivable that in the past few months, it restriction has been with the whole weapons and ammunition stores of israel americans closest allies fighting for its like finding the density wrong and our other commonalities, the white house books passing hits back those kind of so deeply disappointing and certainly the vaccine to us uh, given uh, the amount of the support that we have and will continue to provide a prime minister netanyahu the move is putting, binding in an awkward position. no one in washington appears to know what's next here, who will say in his speech and some award, he may use it to pressure bodies and inter giving him more military age on the mays
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or in the 2015 speech to congress. walberg obama was in power. he made a stinking criticism of nuclear deal, but the above administration was pursuing with a ron calling. it's a very bad deal. obama refused to meet us in yahoo! then us to then vice president biden. this time, destiny, all who is likely to address these re the public showing that he's getting us support as he faces mounting public pressure from hundreds of thousands of people protesting against his handling of the war on cause of the u. s. provides israel with $3500000000.00 in military 8 every year, including those 900 kilogram bones. given the sunsets to say they will boy called speech, but he found his, his coordinates neo, who will criminal until this book. one says she'll skip it somewhere. but he has
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allies, senior republican and democratic leaders in congress, invited us and you know who to highlight us solidarity with israel. israel's one garza has already divided american public opinion, hundreds of thousands of people to protest it on the streets and universities across the us to voice their anger. and now many of waiting to see if next and you know, who will use this high profile speech to advance his stay to goals and garza and perhaps get even most support from the us. the north on the inside story, i'll just say around the well, let's bring in, i guess we're old joining us from the united states and washington dc, especially the most senior diplomatic correspondence at half post and cheyenne wyoming is you'll see macro bug and associated follow with the middle east and
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north africa program at chatham house and in boston, and i'm equally distinguished public policy fellow at the american university of babe ruth a very well and welcome to all of us, stopped with our dc inside to up a. how anxious do you think the white house's about nothing. now whose address to congress? the hey, so it says it's a really challenging time for the white house. i mean, when now at a point where a presidential debate is looming between present bite and lends his rival donald trump, and he has the 2nd time to be just a few weeks off to us. the problem is just of the lighthouse is really not even so much about the policy or even guys, or even netanyahu. it's about their own coalition. what me know about democratic folders is of 75, decided if i'm now suppose israel's actions from casa, we know payments and that, and yeah, who is deeply controversial with them at the same time, we know many democratic lawmakers likely to feel, how can we avoid caught them, yahoo, i mean this is our, our oldest allied as a,
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someone who's going to cascade us. so there's a lot of anxiety at the white house. i see does also a lot of anxiety in capitol hill with democratic politicians. one to single support depends and fighting, but they also want to be distance from this, from the department. so right, i mean is the bus and right now who the international criminal court is potentially pursuing arrest smart support. so that also taking him outside of storage to legacy beyond this is that that's a real kind of interest which kind of tired prizes this whole moment southerbuys in ministration on the outside. it's real problem. yeah. a lot to pick up on from what you've said, let be come to, you'll see, you know, oper was talking about the address of the democratic policy itself and its support for israel. the republicans is not as much of address for the republican party for a support of israel. so the republicans has invited nathaniel, who yes, the democrats had to agree for nothing. yahoo to address both chambers of congress bucks. do you think that's what do you think that nothing yahoo is trying to do with the risk within the democrats and the support,
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the more unified support he has from the republicans? what will he do with the dynamics of the us right now? you'll see to thank you. i think it's, it's what the attorney or use is doing is actually playing both parties because the system is at the same time it is a concert is a concerted data base in case that the wall doesn't tend to wave into the into, for the last 8 maybe 9 months, so all for eliminating care. some us then it can, you know, she doesn't blame the, the position and these are all it doesn't. but if it doesn't blame the military, you all are the security and the organization is, i know you can blame actually that divide in administrative say the overall i got the munition to weapons from our best i like closest i like the new the one to. ready or the other hand, he enters actually, which i think is a very dangerous area of, of intervening, especially viewing election a you,
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because eventually election you in american politics and not as he is a stranger in doing so he's done it before. as mentioned for in 2015, starting to do the jcp or any agreements. so that's a good time to and $11.00 and a few minutes might be that the starting actually do i pay. i don't have time to in the election and the other home. he's playing is playing cold as by saying, look, you know, it's, it's all, it's all american politics fault if we don't dream the war. so in election, either you should suppose these are and rami. how do you see this upcoming visits by nothing. yahoo! and what do you make of, you know, everything you've heard so far using the death and you all who would use this address to criticize president biden. as we've heard, he has used, you know, a speech to the us congress to be critical of the us administration before president broccoli bonus yvonne nuclear did which joe biden, you know, skipped. you know,
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i will do everything that he's always done as prime minister. and that most of the other is really prime ministers i've done before him for decades, which is to improve his political standing alcohol and israel, and promote the lovely uh, designers does rarely propaganda themes that have successfully for a century now brought the united states as a very back close to the closest. so partner of israel and the, the close of support in the united states for his, you know, as low as been the congress, the president's come and go. but the congress has consistently been very, very pro, is rarely on this practice starting to show in congress there's probably 8090 a 100 members of congress who will oppose as rarely wishes may or not attend nothing. yeah. who has a speech? so this is a totally unprecedented situation in which nothing. yeah. who is known to use the totally pressure,
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the techniques of propaganda and political advantage. he's mainly looking at a domestic audience in israel, in the united states. he has become very soon, but more important than that the palestine issue has become a serious american domestic political force in the election here. okay. and we've seen the way, so this is a really, really unusual but the very dynamic situation. yeah, that's a really interesting point. you make, show me that you are predicting that nothing you all who will use precedent a method is in what is an unprecedented time off. but we have a u. s. congress that, you know, has it, can you help on international audience understand why the u. s. congress has for so many decades, overwhelmingly supported israel. and how is it increasingly out of step with what the us public wants, especially in an election? yeah, absolutely. i think that as a historic bipartisan push,
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disappointed throughout, right on the state of the us as a relationship is a bedrock of all foreign policy. that's somebody created by political pressures and elections. i mean, the doors are fact total only because come and save us right. a pack, which is a big price for a lobby groups here in the us. but other thoughts as that's like specific, a 1000000000 that donors who could be relevant to many members of congress and increasing what we've seen in, in recently as of actually normally because who don't want to not line who come out and say we all questioning israel's policy have seen millions of dollars from 10 to try to feed them. so this is the election as soon as also estimate philosophically important to many legislators. unimportant, tremendous. congress holds the pest friends, right? so you don't get that $3500000000.00 to israel every year. that we were talking about earlier without congress approving it without congress pushing for on sales. the reason why now in such a strange position is that the by whom ministration has created. i've tried to do 2
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things at once. it's tried to say we are pressuring israel on civilians and god, so by pressuring israel and ending the war and seize fire. at the same time, the administration has been aggressive with congress just recently, they pushed congress to release small size of truck to israel. this is something that top democrats didn't want to do. so that's a real dynamic here where the, by the ministration on top democrats in congress on together. and on the flip side, the on the spectrum, title, trump is relevant because not and young who's hoping to come right out and say, i'm trying to help elect donald trump. but by creating this impression that democrats don't know where they are in. israel impala sites don't have anything to offer. he's also bolstering plugin meant that donald trump and republicans have said, which is maybe democrats, or just abandoning israel and jewish americans. and that could be irrelevant and put in an argument that a lot of democrats have scared about companies on the. yeah, and again, you'll see, you know, this is similar to the question before, but how much can nothing yahoo take advantage of when the democrats don't seem
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united. the republicans are not just republicans, but the far right and his own coalition. you know, does he have something to gain at home from criticizing divided administration in front of the u. s. congress to yeah, i think that sort of nathaniel feels comfortable playing the statesman way. no one actually believes the many anymore. and i said, well sorry to say that is, is really important because that means that it cannot do inactive states. it wants difficulties or, but doesn't want to simple within the hour sources. instruction, motivate the senate. so chuck schumer said recently this is, i should the election. it's one to again, to ensure these are the secuity, but the doesn't support the way that these are to conduct the woman goes. and how you are used to say is, is, is very different console doing like instance. and what i know device in the nation doesn't do a very good job with that from that. then you know,
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it's all about his police because all 5 of her, i think it's a, it's, it's roughly reminding all over the that's, that's the facing collection. so i mean these are, and one of the reasons that you'd like to host about so desperately and foam and from the government is because of the school and co options. i'm so sorry to play. yes, he's basing. is that and then we'll take the statement and it's always very popular and he's like, if you're seeing as standing up to f one enemies and for. ready a like, any think you will gain some, some points that are the same time. what is the game that he's playing? and i think this one of the danger is that to you, mike ali made altogether the closest i did. you meet so so desperately in times of crisis. okay. and brought out the really interesting point about the senate majority and data. chuck schumer, johnny, why did chuck schumer agree to inviting nothing? yahoo! and i think may it was he agreed to this visit, you know,
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to nothing. yeah. who addressing both chambers, when in march, he said that nothing you all who was an obstacle to peas. and as you'll see, said he cove elections in israel. a good structure, more like by done like let me, i would like most of these characters and the executive and legislative branches of the both governments are 2 faced lie. it was, they don't know how to keep a commitment. they only know how to act in their, in the service of their own permanent incumbency. and for this really is in the service of total american support for israel. you know, the americans are a, the government is making some criticism from the who are here and. busy and stuff about the. busy about the united states has been and susie aspect consistent out from cheer leading supporter of the as rarely, genocide. this is an extraordinary situation where the u. s. at israel together are
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being taken to court of the united states and other places for genocide of complexity and genocide. so the us government is not an impartial act or the us government certainly is generally governments or one party, the american congress. there is one element in this dynamic from the support for israel is still strong, but it's not as strong as i used to be. and this is the big story in the united states, up in all the traditional foundations of us support government support for his hero. our framing of the edges that haven't collapsed but they. busy are offering at the edges, public opinion students, intellectuals, media, labor unions, church groups, political parties, even members of congress. busy criticizing israel, so chuck schumer this, showing that he is above all a 2 faced typical successful american politicians who says one thing, a lot of changes or the next month because it's more beneficial for him to change
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of these guys. and some a girl lady is becca no, no sense of consistency. the principles. they're political animals whose aim is incumbency. and we're seeing this, we'll see it played out and many, many ways in the coming what the difference is, the big difference. as i said briefly before, is the palestine issue has become for the 1st time of years of this conflict of domestic american political factor electoral political factor and nothing. yeah. who's coming to college? there's nothing new, but people supporting palestine all over the us as you know, we don't know how that's gonna play out. but this is a completely unprecedented situation and they have nothing, you know, a presence is trying to take it back to its old ways where the congress of supporting of the, as rarely as the jewish people. but then they don't understand the as rarely as the
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big tremendous supports they have from the 1940s until a few years ago as freight and as you frame crating. um, but yeah, i've been able to make a i'm, it will be really interesting to see how it plays out before the election and crucially on election day off. but you know, some of the mentions numbers that you yourself have mentioned 64 percent of democratic lucius. think israel is committed war crimes and guys, a 56 percent believe it's commissioned genocide. that's according to the doctor for for progress. think tank of the democrats worries about what's going to happen about their support in the election campaign and on election day. what are the, what's the calculation they're making at the moment? you know, i think the problem is really interesting was that cheerleading right. the americans being too drastic, shelly revived. he's another was that's quite common non washington which is enabling right. people are very aware that these are us main site insights dropping . you asked me bombs on hospitals on children. it's
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a us spot blockades. so there's a lot of concerns. some will make us a lot of people out, some of the who have printed these weapons sales on well from budgets. i, i just invite us to zoom out, right. that's a real desire to personalize this and say, benjamin that me, oh, horrible man. the opposed personal obama. but for a lot of these have are crowded low because you have a comfortable reality that having to fees as again ronnie said, as part of the site has like risen to the floor and it's unprecedented to be these . everybody told me cuz i'd be off by didn't you do anything about this earlier? right? prior to october 7th. might have we gotten to this place of silence all the time off of the top, which led to many is really being killed in costs just being taken. and now it's a pretty southern housing policy. it means that so this is creating a broader conversation. i think that's what democrats us struggling in the them, but we have to offer a message that's not just we want a dismissal for the government. we want someone who's not benjamin netanyahu. it has to be a new c, some spots under cod, section 5, but seem to so it has to be about how do we get to be some stability,
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right. how does the fact that we are supporting this middle eastern ally, not in time, less and was a new me over this is not just the shadow of donald trump. it's also the shadow of brought a war, which is a real concern for americans. so that's one that's the thing. economic childs as climate change. other issues, people do not want to be thinking about the risk of 11 or more, which is very real and make sense beyond that in yahoo to a lot of the it's very political and military establishment. that's something congress is thinking about as well. so i think you're going to need these bigger picture on says to occupation to a possibility for really actions in gaza and to broader long term sustainable stability. and not just how do we hold in that and, you know, and so the, certainly that's what the democrats are saying that they want the actions don't seem to match what they're saying. you'll see what do the republicans want and all of this because they're the ones who extend of invitation to nothing. yeah. to yeah, and i, i can de adele plain politics in which this will because out of time to undermine
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that, by the ministration there want to show that, you know, it slipped enough to bite. and s s is august said the to electric state and name is what happened. but i know you guys that they think they can even have it and they wouldn't even even more will type things in, in gaza. and this thing, this way, so of what we see right now, and sometimes we need to go and see between these started. so the context is the neglect. so these are the values standing policy in the united states by the installation of the community. so it was a long time everyone, so there was a states of scroll down, a few things thing either it's counting, both old can get any, any was and it was obvious, it's one point to another, it's wood and get to where else and the serpent was that evidence and what's happened since since since then, and it's running stuff to play domestic politics, whether obviously it needs to have in the middle of. ready all in the united states is never good news because they're kind of way to continue. and instead of as
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a change of ministration in the, in the united states, you might expect that the extra works for them to teneo complains about enough enough. i'm your nation of them, sorry. which by the way the administration would be nice. it's would actually being if it's cool, i've been rectified. so the situation is getting then just guess in, in guys are in the west bank. we don't pay enough attention. what's happening in the west bank because balance there is getting reservation is moving, drenched, and then then then as a circular violence which, which makes it was the we say a government because he's already government and security folks as complete as it contains. at the time the situation left and on and the both of the is, is on the village or for foods cable from me. and you also mentioned the international community that how does the u. s. congress? is it aware of what it looks like to the world to invite a man for whom the international criminal court seeking a rest once a will crimes for crimes against humanity?
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the leader of a country who the international court of justice is investigating for genocide? yeah, the answer is that is lovely of the united states congress, especially the republicans have no idea about what's going on in the world and especially what's going on, at least as i said, the type of politicians. and i just want to stay in power and exercise so that the benefits of power, the higher the tremendous higher make the project them cool. army of all this is the policy american and the is rarely strategies and guys are failed. and then loving on a failed. and i'm, i'm secretary blinking, who was a cartoon like character who pops up every saturday morning, making another trip to them at least, to try to create a enhancing around me on a coalition which they've been trying to do. something alexander had was foreign secretary many decades ago. so these temperatures have no idea about how to deal
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effectively with the power forces and the human sentiments of the people all around the police. they only understand the use of force, and they only understand the use of assumptions and compelling people to follow their imperial lead. but the strategies are failing. the us of israel have a terrible time, the loveliest and in the world, the other them being and banded them, taking the cord and all that. they're wildly isolated in a new one village and other for a hand. they have very, very little respect and they're losing their respect within the united states and within israel as well. so this is an extraordinary, really important historical moment. and certainly the most pivotal moment in my career. and i've been doing this for 55 years now. since 1968 i started being involved in the least issues publicly when i was up to the course of the, the us. and this is the most dramatic moment that signals serious change. a
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structural change within the us, within israel, them at least within the countries. if you look at his bottle and come out of some sort, a lot of others. what think doing the governments are all, you know, they're taking vacation somewhere. southern france probably. who knows what they're doing, but they're not doing very much at all. and the israeli government, a strategy is not working. the american government strategy is not work. so the real faithful. a freefall and certainly some would argue a complete failure of the international community with the one gaza, very much continuing, and it's 9th month on the use. see this trip having an impact on the was old i think that's a real hold from the by the ministration, but they can have this impact, but it boils down to it, but some of us leverage, right? the sheet is where the decision making and what we think consistently from the administration is really more rhetoric, a toyota, rav of them, any kind of real pressure on benjamin netanyahu. in the speech, in so many ways is
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a combination of the right. these really leadership feels not just entitled to unchecked american support on a comfortable american sport consistently. it feels beacon come to your capital. i'm not sure you and that's the moment we're right though. i think the biggest sort of opportunities for improvement to come from the region because that's a real sense of the strategic costs of a small you've seen saudi arabia in particular, which the us are reading, want us to see signing, to deal with america and with israel's society and excited give us a solution that address as policy and concerns consistently. i think those voices pushing back against the violent ministration may be the only possible week up, paul, because we do know they haven't been moved by the mentoring groups. we haven't been moved by student protests to as all people domestically in the us. perhaps reasonable mean internationally. those play has been pushed proof lessons and i will have less than a minute left in the program. i'd like to give you'll see the last word regardless of what happens with the speech has method yahoo already won by being invited to
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address the u. s. congress, as we mentioned more times than any other world leader to i think so, and this will probably, this is the get the ability to see if this, this invitation. that's what you want to have done that teasing in data. states in these are the context of the mental, he lost a more reasonable call to a fees each correlation. and 2 weeks ago, living government, actually the they, the united states, i'm calling this is actually telling you, my lifeline. the best thing in our inside the and i just have the chromecast. so we get to because if you haven't gotten back to church or they understand that he's an obstacle for beast. and these are the needs that spelled a li election in order to start looking in a very different way to end the war, to, to come the situation down and then to move the play into how to resolve these are the but a single country. it's won't happen often and that the and the 10 year old and no
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one should say extra sewing or lifelike. mr. mckelvey, thank you so much for your time. you'll see medical book and shand bush. i live in washington dc and ami community in boston. and thank you to for watching, you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, which is 0 dot com. i prefer the discussion to go to a facebook page that's facebook dot com, forward slash a inside story. you can also join the conversation on x a handle as at a inside story for me, elizabeth put on him and the entire team here. bye for now. the a unique perspective. one picture is not going to tell the entire 8 months of the genocide. however, it is bringing attention to advise that this has not been rough and looks like
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