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i think shows that the news goes like elsewhere and the strip this will this fall from over with detailed coverage, given the lack of international up for it will be up to a residence, a 5 been to defend their very existence in their line from the house of the story were not passion for through this something that helped her serve by the daily life . it's a distraction of, from what she has witnessed. her couldn't read through the caribbean, causing devastation, but allow me to, i'm on climate sorry. it is the fastest and earliest ever atlantic storm a direct result of global warming, i expect say, why is this storm closing so much concern like this is inside store the
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other very welcome to the program on the clock. a storm like no other. that's how her can be. busy pro is being described, does it boxes the current being, it's left, the devastation and destruction in this way can more is expected warnings about climate change and global warming all reported daily and media right around the world. but this storms, timing, it's speed and it's intensity. is causing concern among scientists globally. we'll find out more about space, the local, and the wider impacts of american barrel later in the program with, i guess i will take a closer look at the science behind this particular still without seeing image urologist wrote mccully. first, let's have this report from michael soon. sure. see how the king bedroom is breaking records as a test to the caribbean? it made land full on for now does kind of go on and on monday. so happening about 90 percent of homes is the strongest storm to hit the southeast and creeping into decades to see this level of disruption. it is almost, i'm gonna give you
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a like almost worth of damage of disruption of all buildings, whether they be public buildings, homes or the private facilities. there is almost complete disruption of the electric field grid system in type. the into communication system is completely destroyed. some people who lost a homes on union island, a tiny crop and descend vinson and from the deeds archipelago, arrived in the jamaican capital with tales of what it was like in the middle of the stone. i saw right in uh in my tight area because the topic. yeah. it was a hot for all was bought into the account. uh movies. we just have a lot of different solutions that is, are, you don't like, it isn't on this. on tuesday every week into a category full stone, but for main destructive across the region from the dominican republic. to ken coon
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and mexico, people are rushed to stoke up and take shelter or, and venezuela. the stone brought heavy rains to the northern state of sue cree under the bust. it's bang trickling plumps. separately people have died of being reported missing or trauma. gus off at the bottom, there are $8000.00 houses with various levels of damage. we've already responded with this and civil protection teams are working with the army to document the damage on. they told me at least $400.00 houses are completely lost. beverly is the 1st, how became of the actual season. and the earliest on recall to be classified as the maximum catch would be 5 national weather service planes up trying to gather data to understand more about barrels, intensity and structure side to side. mind me climate change for this tones, rapids friends name and the warnings of an extra or movie season,
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the head will consume sherry, i'll just see the inside story. so what is the science behind this stallman what might just happen next to explain, has, are seen and meter on is from mccully a barrel. is a note with a major hurricane you over there. this, this much, that from the point of view of what it looks like from space is huge. it goes from the coast, if it is way to. right to be on bob. i know since since and lucy had both of which find the effects quite unpleasant, but the devastation was near the eye. it's a beautiful lie near grenada now in september. we think this is a major hurricane happens every 120 years or so. and not surprising, but it's july and there's the worry. it's a unique storm. it phoned in june became in 24 as a category for hurricane. that's what happened there. so that's the earliest category. 5 in july with winds. well, an excess of 250 calories probably should have that categorized. it's the wins just
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around the inside of the on the strongest. when they're in the category 6. so category 5 will just go up and up as the stones get with us. now, barrels of course is fits like every tropical storm by the rooms of the surface water as it is warm, are in the atlantic and the kind of being by 2 or 3 degrees above for long to navigate. this isn't going to change, might even get worse, might get warm and still, so you're sitting more energy for every storm that forms hence barrow early on to major and that will still getting bounding through the car being, which is warmer than normal pos jamaica still is a category full still, slowly lose again. she's a goes further west submissively. but what does this say for out of season? well, in fact, the season was already full cost to be rather with to know what codes have up to $25.00 named storms. what about the average? maybe 7 major hurricanes, that's a category 3 or above the average of 3. we've had one already. and the dr. desires, you know, the warmer water, which is a very well,
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but certainly in the hurricane pounds i'm letting me in here, which is the pendulum swing almost the opposite of el nino. it just adds more input to so the conditions are right for a very narrow season. and you see how it started. all right, let's take this so we can bring in, i guess none, orlando in florida, it's daniel guilford. he's let me draw just an app and start scientist who focuses on how climate change effects harkins heats and local communities for mary a. p a is in bridgetown in barbados, which is just being batted indeed by heart and barrow. and she's the caribbean delegation spokes person for the international federation of the red cross and red crescent societies and take the technical lead on involving crises and dissolve those. and you have sonya is in manila, he's the southeast asia executive director green pace and a former climate negotiator for the philippines. government will welcome to own of you. let's go straight to the region festival red ram area. yeah. you ought to
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pulling red cross personnel to get in and try and help with this catastrophic situation. well, it's all your eye witnesses saying about the severity of this hurricane. so good morning, good afternoon. i'm good evening to or you'll view us. i'm re se and bobby this bridgestone and i rather the so what's the probably doing population on this sunday into monday morning in bridgestone and bobby the, the deposition on the south coast in particular was immense. i mean, over 200 and drive the fishing vessels have been destroyed. on 20 boards found there was major damage to the ports of bridgestone. and then we also had damage to the fisheries industry. but even that synopsis pills in comparison to what we're seeing and grieving you to, we have red cross staff and volunteer station in benita. and i mean to live through that in the divers beasen is immense. as you saw earlier on any program,
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terry who has been completely seized that 98 percent of an island is gone. the communications on carrier costs. so down people are still trying to make contact with their friends and their families. every building has not gone on touched. i mean, that's just to we have it's countries that are in the past the barrel. i mean it's, it is amazing to think about the, the structure langley devastation and union i live in st. vincent on the granted begins, the communications are still down, the airport has been law schools, churches, the main hospital, all destroyed and is keeping going as we speak the hurricane barrow would be impacting jamica. and the point is right, uh, we was absolutely emphasized here, is that just how early this is come in the season in? what is it to be a very severe harcum season?
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i mean, it's july. the main part of the hurricane season, typically in the caribbean, is around september into november, maybe the beginning of october. that's quite so easily. we have, we have mobile. so look forward to, if we really take a look at the forecast, and we have to think about what these constant impacts on the region having. it's the 1st still of the season and it has gone through 8 countries, the projected to go through each country. so far, is this really what we need to expect for the next few months in a region? okay, well that's also that question now to daniel guilford. and i know you grew up on the floor of the coast. i understand not so far from the carpet in the gruff observing a big stones, barreling in, at, as a climate scientist. now you also have deep knowledge of the climate systems. now we have as read was just saying the are these kinds of re 5. how can ever, how surprised all you at this and how concerned all you full the season the head?
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yeah, well hurricanes are kind of like giant sheet engines. they take energy from the ocean on the surface kind of like what brought mentioned earlier. and they converted into is and they taking us fuel converted into wind speed. and so what we're seeing out there in the atlantic right now are very warm sea surface temperatures, unseasonably warm, as you mentioned earlier. and these conditions are kind of like what you would expect in september. and so these hurt this hurricane barrow that is moving through is releasing conditions that are unlike anything we've ever seen before. is unprecedented. total and a storm is having unprecedented impacts. and we are quite concerned, you know, it is only just a lie and we're seeing september like impacts. and so what does this mean for the rest of the season? certainly the sea surface temperatures out there are remaining warm as long as african ways the sort of the disturbances and the atmosphere keep rolling off the african coast. we and we're going to have those warm waters and there's plenty of
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fuel available for these storms to sort of develop and then begin to grow. and so we are certainly concerned that in line with many of their predictions out of the national oceanic and atmospheric administration and other other groups that have made predictions about the season that it will be an extremely active one. and that this is probably the end of the 2024 hurricane season is actually just the beginning. so we are concerned about what these impacts are. and we just are very cognizant that if you're along one of the coast lines in the caribbean or the golf or the even the eastern seaboard united states. and this is going to be a time where you need to be careful attention to what's happening in the tropics. done to just just take this on a little bit further. you say that the booming ocean is a driver of this, of these hurricanes. why is it the warm ration temperatures, fuel harkins and big storms and cycling? oh yeah, that's a wonderful question. so a hurricane is almost like the engine in your car. as you push down the accelerator
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fuel comes into your engine and starts to make it turn into and speed up and, and in a hurricane is very similar, and you get some sort of fuel source and on our planet that fuel source is the warm ocean temperatures. we see we're seeing more motion temperatures that are quite a bit warmer than we would have seen this time of year in the past year is that there's something like 2 degrees celsius warmer and this can have big impacts and these hurricane because you add more fuel to them they can spend faster and faster, they have that opportunity to grow into. the real monster is like the hurricane barrel that we're seeing right now. and so that fuel source is sticking around. those warm ocean temperatures aren't going anywhere to season. and so we expect these hurricanes as they begin to develop in this area. they can see that fuel source, they can take advantage of it, take that tensile energy that is stored in the ocean, and converting to kinetic energy in the form of wins that can really provide a lot of the damages that we're seeing right now. it's in, in, in the region,
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and so as we think about what's going to be happening going forward, a lot of this heat is rob mentioned is here to stay. climate change has sort of tract, more energy in the earth, in your atmosphere. that energy eventually gets down into the ocean a surface which then provides a lot of work for these storms be able to fuel up with. uh, so this is something that is a major concern for only. i mean it's got internally with human, sorry to jump here. so i'm going to be looking at where it's kind of changed as being fuel by fossil fuel emissions. great, inclined to kind of blanket around the yep. sonya so what's being experience in the car being now is experienced appearance right around the world. very familiar scene, of course in the philippines where you uh, what are your thoughts about what we're seeing in the car, being in the context of the west and the effects of climate change, especially in the philippines. yes. just watching the news coverage and listening. 3, all right, now it's certainly recommended send by the serious all of the of us say things paula said we have seen for the past many years and certainly. ready the want to
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keep my home phone in the monthly piece of advice when i on and thank you for being in support by frontier i just 3 years ago. uh, which uh indicates for us. uh, you know, most of these uh 5 boys have become more disruptive and caring so much in 1050 many deadlines with what the, the intergovernmental panel on climate change. just saying around the more frequency of 5 categories, $3.00 to $5.00 tropical storms. and that's very boring and i can only imagine the suffering that's happening in the caribbean right now. i've seen it with my own eyes here where we live and, and i can only really sympathize and, and, and pray for the best for those who are still struggling. ready pick up the pieces and, and racing against time to save lines and homes, the 3,
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what are the global discussions around climate change in relation to harkins like this? all the voices of those countries like those in the carbon. indeed in the philippines of the pacific. and those countries in the, in the costs has of climate crises like these. all those voices being heard. i think situation like this for us caribbean weights has to be heard. how many more barrels we're going to have to live through? we haven't gone through hurricane maria and emma in 2017. behind hurricane dorian in 2019. no way here again with hurricane barrow as the strong this hurricane to hit the region in 20 is this early on. it forces the conversation, we are at the forefront of the crime with crisis, but no longer i because of the crime with crisis, we are living and breathing is experiencing it. every single the, our lives on livelihoods of being impacted. i mean, how do we quantity 5? so it'd be done how much that we've seen. how do we quantify 98 percent of an
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island being destroyed and it's not only one, it's more than one. we've seen it and carrier who is seeing it. and st. vincent the impacts in poppy, the in saint lucia in jamaica and dominic in trinidad and tobago. the list goes on . how long does the list have to grew? before we take action before we release talked and listen to, to the voices of people who act before friends of this kind with crisis, we need to have more spaces. so our voice has to become defined on, on voices, to be heard. because how long are we expected to suffer the consequences of the crime with crisis when we, when he contribute the less than 10 percent? to low carbon emissions. yeah, over to you what, what are your thoughts so one of the biggest challenges we face in terms of finds, the last thing is i believe just to define it prices. if obviously,
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some of the fossil fuel industry sense of the 4 of these prices and the slowness by which international, the international community and nations, big, serious, i'm beatrice options offer this pricing swap. we're seeing right now are examples of what we've been seeing it to happen. in the future, if we do do not apt, urgently on describe this and, and what we have seen, those are very difficult in this international negotiations is, is, of course the best. but the answer is that lie behind that. this is big issue. busy also want to mention that the tricky part about storms. when we talk about define advisors, if it's only been more reason that the, the scientific community has made it very categorical. the climate change is driving martin's in pens, farms. and then this is the be the reason,
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so that's why the science of pac abuse on being able to ocean the police because the boundaries around finally adoption has not been seen in recent times. and, and then i think all of this extra assignments, extremes that are happening along with the world right now. and i just farms levels on heat waves should compel leaders to pay caption. daniel, the thing is that you say you have always kindly streams going on like the hurricane barrow bits. meanwhile, develop nations continue to subsidize fossil fuels to the june of trillions of dollars. yeah, there's no real incentive for big oil and big gas to ease production. but if we continue to wilma planets in the way that we are doing, what does it mean for these weather events that are already reaching extreme? a yeah, at the climate system is going to respond in turn right in the more fossil fuels will mean that the temperature of the plan and it will continue to rise. and as the
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temperature of the planet rises, these impacts like receipt and stream heat. hurricanes like hurricane barrel, which is being impacted already right now by climate change will continue to be impacted by many changes here. right now there's an impacting us uh, in real ways real lives are being affected by the storms. so it is critical that we come together and work toward solutions to, to sort of solve the, the climate change problem that we are all collectively in the world, dealing with it. and these things are expected to not change. we're going to have this heat with us for a long time. so in addition to mitigating our impacts, we're also going to add to that and change the way we live our lives to protect ourselves from the worst of impacts. so it's really important to be continued have conversations with anyone and everyone who lives in that climate changes here. it's happening and we need to do everything we can to reduce that, that we've done. and we've been having those conversations for your 20 years and more going back in time and,
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and action is not happening. false enough. that's right. we need to make it immediate changes right now. and one of the challenges i think is sometimes the climate change can be a little abstract. it's far away. maybe it's in somewhere else, but climate change we can see through hurricane barrel, the extreme heat way is the spring flooding we've been seeing around the world. it is happening right now. it's no longer an abstract thing. as we just mentioned, we now have this science to point to particular events and say this was made worse by climate change. or this intense event was made more likely because of climate change. the science supports that, and so what we need to really be doing is making, having our policy support solutions towards reducing our climate emissions and the climate impacts hopefully going forward. we're looking at pitches just a 2nd to give a pass agreement at crossing the line back in 2015, which is almost 10 years ago at rit. there's been
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a ross of elections across the world this year. yet the climate crisis has hardly been on the agenda, not of the u. k. daughter of the united states governments clearly believe it's not a vote when i look at the end of the day, it is a hot topic issue. i think people necessarily don't want to, as they say, put the head in a block for what is being described as style just as abstract phillips. but it's not abstract too. it's as we are living and everybody is our reality. and we need to focus on the reality. we need to focus on accountability because the crime with crisis was not started by small island developing states. but we need to ensure that we protect the most vulnerable in our communities, who are default friends of this kind of crisis. we need to maybe stop being a little so politically correct about it. and we actually me, as i said, the conversation has been going on for 20. is we time to take action was not, no,
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it was then. what do you mean by let the politically correct? probably some point of we need to tackle the issues of hands on me. so talk of the issues in front of us. we need to take the well overall ice off. we need to bring next spaces like this. do bring a lot more away in this car. t and vision to what is happening in these countries that are being affected by climate change and put of human elements and because of the human element that stuff is the most and is the you one of the month that needs to support as i've called the accent in terms of the policies i'm making, the policies are reality. because if we continue to sits on our hands, we're going to continue to have more barrels. we're going to continue to have more dorians are going to continue to have most of the phones. and we really need to start putting the human agend at the full front on the humanitarian agenda at the
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forefront to protect the life livelihoods, of people who are routinely impacted every single season. but okay, these be super thugs, re, i'm going to move on because we're gonna go 3 or 4 minutes left. and i want to come to both of our other guests that yep, festival. and you mentioned the process. how do we make that a more meaningful and the question is, isn't the mechanism itself broken? the un framework itself is, is just not working. there are certain indications stuff we need to put pressure on the international process is i wouldn't, i would agree with you a little bit broken, but it's our best option right now in terms of getting old countries of the. ready uh, the concrete boards meaningful solutions for the climate crises. i would say every politician will doesn't talk about climate change based on the wrong side of the
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piece 3. and we will keep exposing these or leaders who, who are not addressing and confronting, describes just like they should. but as a price is it's daniel, despite of the renewable energy is gaining ground. there is a growing demand, especially from use movements around the world to change. it's not too late, is it? it's not too late. you know that the fact that we're dealing with barrels says that the impacts impacts are already with us. but there's sort of a range of what impacts we could be seeing in the future. and if we reduce our, our fossil fuel emissions, our greenhouse gas emissions. right now we can sort of mitigate and reduce those impacts that we're going to be seeing going forward. and this is really good evidence. what's happening with barrel right now is really good evidence that the climate system is already responding to the decisions we make. so that's actually kind of an interesting story because it says that the decisions we make right now will affect going forward. and so it is critical that this moment we have these
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conversations, we continued connect, what we see happening in the real world to the decisions we are making about how we admit things, how we produce our energy. and it's critical that we think about that in this moment and make the decisions going forward that will protect both ourselves and future generations. yeah, if you have what on both sides of the fence from negotiating to activism at this point in time, where, where do you find hype? do you truly believe that we will get out of this? so there are days when we confront the arctic and it's like very being buried in the it keeps you, we just really felt the leap plus turned in and seem to go. but we have to wake up each morning with hope and hope is stronger than fear. and therefore, we should just keep believing that another world is possible that we can make this happen. we can make them just energy, condensation, possible in our generation and,
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and create a world that it's just of it's safe. and that's that, that is meaningfully incredible for everybody. this is, this is about justice. be somebody fairness, those are suffering from the most adverse impacts of the finance prices are adults . so then keep it said the leads to this problem. and therefore, if we have any faith in your mind, if the site is the faith in your mind, if you that we will be able to find jaspy this and, and, and the result of this crisis wants. and well, let's finish and the region ria at this difficult point in time for the car been, it must be hard to find any optimism. a tool is new what, what are you thinking about the is ahead and how we tackle this crisis. it was to agree with what be inside we can't, we can't allow ourselves to things like that. we have to be optimistic about the future. we have to reduce the organizations like the red cross to support the
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community development and community building efforts at that level. because the communities, all very 1st responders, so we need to invest in community and resilience. bellingham, community preparedness, so that we know what to do. and we knew how to adapt on able to sort of chat the cost, followed for the future. we need to understand the risk of the relatives a lot better so that we are able to plan and prepare for them. and we have to do that with an open mind with an open spirit to be able to accept the hope that's going forward. because in the caribbean, we are refusing to accept that this is going to be the be all and or for us, we need to be able to be more resilient. and in order to do that, we have to have a positive outlook on the future. right? as i say when, if not now we'll have to leave it the thanks. so i guess daniel guilford remedy.
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much of the forest land was clear using fire the lift to high found a price, and this is, it's like we are in the war. that's also the time where i decided to take this seriously. the we cannot wait for someone come to help us, but the in the i see them will. yes. and you'll be like them to see also that deforestation was the biggest threat to power wait, applied voices of the people who so the for us as a way of making money. there's so much loaded and new forces. so to people who live in it, when it came to land use as the indigenous people of the island,
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