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we want to take it back to our breaking news story and has of all the sources of towed out to 0, the groups 5 to 100 rockets from southern 11. i'm just really ministry positions across the borders. the 2nd day that rockets are being launched for more than this, we're going to go to is in a cold. and they would say no, but we're talking to us that big of corresponding most i am in southern let them just a few months ago. he was saying that if he was talking to us, we could hear the strikes are going on. what is it you've been hearing? well, we heard the is really just break the sound barrier over baby roots. this followed has palazzo launching of at least 200 rockets and drones at various military positions along the border. they hits various locations over a wide area if you like. and for the 1st time targeting a lot in the that's approximately 35 kilometers from the order. so the deepest strike yet by has been lost since the start of the conflict. both sides really in recent days in recent weeks have been sending messages to each other as escalating
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rhetoric about about the possibility of widening this conflict. now hezbollah, launching these rockets in retaliation for the killing of a regional commander. there are 2 main commanders in the south of lebanon on one elbow. nami, he was killed yesterday and then the parent is ready. drones strikes and the other i will tell him, killed the less than a month ago. so for hezbollah, it is very important that it responds, it's retaliates and that's retaliation is strong because it needs to deter israel from continuing these targeted assassinations. and it's not just that for hezbollah, it is important to show that it is the phrase, the wage board is really to launch. and to expand this conflict along the border. so an escalation, yes. and we are getting reports about the possible possible casualties among is ready. so there's at least one that according to his reading media,
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this has not been confirmed yet by our me. but this escalation is still is still within the rules of engagement. the unwritten rules of engagement that have been put in place by both sides in the sense that uh, both sides still, but going after military targets. certainly thank you very much indeed is in a quarter in be route. they're bringing us up to date on that situation. patients and groups representing them in size because we are protesting against a prolonged dr. strike medical professionals of suspended surgeries and outpatient treatments and some hospitals post houses have called for an end to the industrial action. more than a 1000000 people have been affected by flooding in bangladesh. authorities of one danger is flooding levels. in 15 districts in the cell habits division in the northeast, tens of thousands of people have been isolated by flood waters sizes more have been evacuated to temporarily shelters after continuous rain for nearly
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a month. to can barrel has scraped past the southern positive jamaica, bring with it, winds of up to 225 kilometers per hour and heavy rain. it's the most powerful storm to hit the camera being so early in the atlantic product and season airports in jamaica is capital are closed, and people have been evacuated from low line areas, bottles left a trail of destruction across the surface kind of being killing at least 8 people, a sound. the bottom line is next and don't forget, it forces lots more information and backgrounds as well as pictures as well on the website. i'll just see the don't com. i'm real boddeson. stay with us on the interrogate. the narrative is the us has continued support for israel,
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affecting it's global standing. there's no question about the united states has effectively complicit to the genocide challenge the rhetoric. yes, they look that correct, but so is the international community. can we also say that deals? the cornerstone of democracy is having a free and open democratic pro upfront without hire and steve clements and i have a question. if the point of the 1st us presidential debate was for each candidate to prove how unfit the other is for office, what's the verdict? let's get to the bottom line. the us president joe biden and former president donald trump had their 1st face to face debate. and it was obvious that the democrats are in some serious trouble. bite and mumbled and stumbled this way through his talking points and lost his train of thought at several moments. by contrast, trump was more energetic and displayed more self control than he did during the
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2020 debates. both called each other liars, criminals and the worst presidents in the country's history and their views on america couldn't be more opposite prophecies of failing nation. while biting argues that the us is the envy of the world. and the trash talks about golf. now their campaigns are in full swing and they'll be taking their promises straight to the american people. so who has a better chance of winning the white house this november? today we're talking with janelle king, former deputy state director for the georgia republican party and orson porter, political strategist and former white house political director in the clinton administration. or so let me start with you and ask you, we recently saw the democratic and republican debate president trump and president biden. how do i go for president by a play as well? thanks for having me. and no, i think it was a, a tough night for democrats overall. there's really no upside on what happening.
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and no one expected and regrettably it was, it said to be that the buying team asked for. but what i think you also saw was uh how many people are closely watching, what's going to happen with the selection? and i'm sure when you see the viewership numbers, it will be at a fairly high level. unfortunately, i think what you saw last night on both sides is the frustration is the voters have on whether or not they're actually being listened to. and some of the policies that were brought up in during the debate, the discussion were never fully discussed or get after or answer. and i think you will have boats differ crafts walking away a little bit disappointing with performance, but the motor and some of those wednesdays. wondering how will these candidates be
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able to help me with some of my kitchen table of issues. and unfortunately, you didn't hear a lot of that. and now, you know, think that republicans out there that you're dealing with are happy with the debate performance they saw from donald trump. or, you know, it just depends on who you ask because the party, the republican party as well as the democrat party, is kind of going through an evolution where there are some and do both are devout, i should say, supporters on both sides. however, i will say that we're the republican party united, even though there are several different factions where we will unite is around the fact that we know that president trump displayed a much better a presentation during the debate. it was very clear that he has the energy held in their capability to do the job. and it's unfortunate, but that's where we're standing today. it's unfortunate that there are a lot of people who are feeling as though they have to bypass character in vote
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based on capability. that being said, i do think that president trump is going to win in november as long as a president biden is currently in the rates are still in the res. i don't see how binding can recover from this because what he displayed is what we have seen and what we have stopped up have talked about for the last few months. so i'm interested to see what the democrats do from here or so let me go back to you and, and just ask you structurally, former senator clermont caspell said bite and had one job that was to reassure america. we assure americans that he's fit for office and he failed. so what are your thoughts about this focus on physicality as opposed to policy and once intellectual capabilities? that's a good question. i mean, uh, at the end of the day, the beginning of the day in the middle of the day, americans want their president, and i've seen it firsthand to be and to look presidential. and there's no debate
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on that. and i think there were points one on the trump side. unfortunately for the buying g to that point. but i will say that you're right to say that there is a, you know, i think it's a 129 days before the actual election. so they are going to be moments where the each candidate may have an issue tripping over a stage or a pre getting their wine and a speech and, and in that hasn't changed, you know, over the course of the last 100 years or so in presidential campaigns but what has changed is the speed in which voters are able to view. uh, exactly what's happening on the campaign and the speed at which the different
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campaigns are able to use those incidents to benefit their candidate. so they're going to ministration the new cycle didn't move as swiftly as it does now. and whatever buying struggles he has will be in real time. uh, the upside of that is the speed with which americans may forget. so what i would say is it is the middle of the summer. it is right before the 4th for joe holiday. and it wouldn't surprise me that the, the, the base vote that has been with them for the last year or so will, will forgive and forget potentially and, and give him a 2nd chance to recover. thank you for that. janelle, i want to, you know, ask you, are you comfortable with many of the claims which, which in
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a fascinating way cnn didn't knock back. i mean, there were many demonstrative bull mistruths that president trump laid out there. i mean, one that just glared at me were abortions after birth? that is technically uh that would be murder when you spoke at the phase of freedom con conference recently here in, in georgia. i think it no, i think it was in dc. sorry about that. when we spoke of that conference, recently he made a statement about, you know, abortion, and there were a lot of people there, particularly a lot of hard republicans that believe that we should a federal live abortion and a sense of demanding that it's no longer, you know, a radically to get basically, and so i do think that's something that may touch them. but lastly, the physicality issue. the only reason why we're talking about physicality in this particular raises because president trump can't talk about policy. i mean, sorry to present it by then can't talk about child policy. his policies are failing . so now it leaves us to have to talk about other issues as well. and so when you
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have bad policy and weak physicality, it basically just shows that he should not be in that position at all or so let me ask you if you understand the nuts and bolts, the dates the calendar is actually possible for joe biden to step down to have an open convention, what are the issues of concern when it comes to the nuts and bolts of the legal apparatus of running a campaign before november 5th? yeah, i think, you know, a couple of key things is, dates matter. so the convention is coming up august 19th through the 22nd. as i mentioned, we're a 129 days until the election states are now just starting the process of. ready putting names on ballots, probably in mid or late august. so it doesn't give a lot of time for democrats to put a new name on the on, on the ballot,
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but more importantly, before the convention to unify around one candidate. so that's, i would start with there's only one person who has a decision to make here in order to even consider making this work for eliminating the discussion entirely. and ask joe, by until we hear directly from the president buying on what he is thinking, which last like you heard, of course, full response from the vice president. his campaign today has been fairly vocal about staying in the race. and i was just back at the event in north carolina you, we are much of the same. so personally, i don't see he making a decision any time. so particularly before. ready or the upcoming holiday. and if
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you should make a decision thereafter and decide to withdraw that gives us a few weeks before the upcoming e a r d and c convention in chicago. and then as i mentioned that only a few weeks before these early balance go out. so you know, all i have to say is the longer president by makes and making the decision whether to stay in the race or to drive out the heart of it. it will be, we offer democrats to move forward and the unified front and more importantly be legally to make certain that his name is on the valid or whomever's name is on a valid as a replacement. and all of these bound ground states, you're hearing at least on my, on a bunch of funding sources. but until the leader of the party speaks and says what his intentions are. i think, you know, this is all good chatter, but very hard to believe. uh, at this point that he would make
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a decision to drive within the next $24.00 or 48 hours. so i live if you uh or says, oh, go ahead, you know, right, yeah, i, i agree on one thing. i do agree that it's a difficult decision, it's going to be really hard to do it. however, i do disagree on the fact that we have to wait for joe biden to determine whether or not it's going to drop out. i'd truly believe that who's going to decide this are the donors when donors say i'm no longer investing in a candidate that is feeble and that can not get string to services together. that's when the decision is going to be made. i don't think it has anything to do with 5 minutes to be honest. i think that by then we'll get to that convention. and if they decide that they no longer want to support him and they have someone else in mind, they will put that person up and they will get those delegates to vote for that person. i truly believe that that may happen. and i, and it's because it's really the term is, are really based on whether or not the democrat party wants just to be competitive
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or they want to hand it to president truck. i'm interested orson in your thoughts on how the communities, particularly communities of color, are going to feel calmer. harris isn't the automatic success successor, and you actually have an open primary where, you know, someone like california governor, governor newsome or jena right moaned or the secretary of commerce or michigan governor gretchen witten or others come in. is there going to be a negative cloud, a dark cloud over this process that i'm not seeing? yeah, i mean i, i think those are all things that uh, present buying i'm sure is considering as he makes his decision, which ultimately i think will be to stay. yeah. but harbor said, if, if you know, you saw a different vice president here's last night and a lot of people were calling me last night say, you know, are of what she oh, why, why was she used more often and who is this person and we need her more than never,
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particularly, and some of these based both african american communities, if she were to be leapfrog uh through this process, which i don't think will happen then. absolutely. members of, in the democratic party, particularly after american women, will feel as though they have been wrong. and she's done everything that's been asked up from the party itself for her not to have an opportunity. i think it brings in chaos and chaos right now for democrats. actually, we saw what happened last night is, is not a winning strategy. so i kind of disagree that you know, a, an exciting convention is good for democrats. it may be good for television, but i don't think it's good for votes. fast saying, janelle, um, you're an entrepreneur and you've been very involved with the economic policy,
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i think is how we 1st met and talked that there, you know, there was another statement that, that donald trump made last night. i'm just wondering where it stands. so we would watching the numbers of black community, hispanic community and others and, and their softer for president bite. and then they were 4 years ago. uh, president trump is picking up some support from communities of color, but also cornell, west jill stein and robert f. kennedy junior, are picking up some of those votes, but last in the debate, donald trump said he talked about black jobs. he talked about hispanic jobs, and i have to tell you that the hackles went up on the back of my neck. it sounded very racist to me. how does that sound to you? and does that impact the recruitment efforts to pick up some of the communities of color out there in america's political equation right now. i feel like it was a bad choice of words i. i feel like he was trying to make a point in the way in which you went about. it was just not good. but here's the
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thing. you're standing on stage for 90 minutes with no notes. and so a lot of is really coming off the top of your head. and what i think he meant to say is that jobs that are going to benefit the black community going to benefit the hispanic community. whatever those jobs are, i think that's the point he was trying to make. but that being said, the minority community, particularly the black community, it's not leaving the democrat party simply because the president trump, they're leaving a democrat party because president bite and lied to them. because president, by instead on a zoom call with the in double a c p, and told them that he's done more for black people than the end of the late fee. because he told charlemagne on the breakfast club. and if you don't vote for him, you're not black. and these things started adding up. i can go on and on and on to list of all the disrespectful comments policy and decisions present anybody has made as it relates to the black community. but the black community was trying to hold on straw, continue to vote democrat, because that's what grandma and great grandma have done. and we want to continue
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that legacy. but now they're realizing, particularly our young black people, that they have been sold a bag of goods and that, and that is nothing but a live and you just be manipulated contempt consistently. so i really do believe that president trump is picking up these, but voters because they feel politically homeless, they don't know who is going to put together policies that will benefit all of us. instead of using us as a pond in this little game. so i want us to continue to focus on strong policy, to that point on policy or send, you know, when you do polls, you see people are worried about crime inflation of the southern border and immigration. and i'm, i'm interested in another big issue that has seemed to matter in recent elections in the united states. and that is a board sion and there were major differences of opinion on abortion between president vine in president trump last night. worse than, you know, to some degree,
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we're talking about individuals and how they look and perform. but are there issues like abortion that are so big that they are going to be definitive regardless of who's head of that ticket. so how is abortion going to play out? the will play out, depending on how the messenger delivers the message. and, and i thought for the, the 2 minutes that i saw the vice president on cnn only today, she gave a, a pretty clear rallying cry on why this is a web gives you more importantly, their platform on what they would do about it. and so protect, etc, but that you know, over the course of the next $129.00 days. if, if, if it is that the president himself a 100 percent confident that they will find other dignitaries or
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investigators like the vice president, to give a, a pretty clear routing prize. i mentioned on how this should play out of moving forward in the campaign. it is the probably the 3rd biggest issue in some of the swing states. uh, but it all depends on how people are be, uh, educated on the platform and more importantly motivated by the person or the candidate on what they will do about the issue. and i thought it's a perfect example of how with athletic women or women in general or suburban women that the vice president should be use in and, and, and then given that platform and i wouldn't be surprised that you will see or speak a little bit more loudly on this issue and use more as a speaker box moving for. janelle, let me ask you about
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a portion which you referenced earlier in your comments here. but, you know, are the views that are main stream within the g o, p and, and, and they are far more conservative than i would say in the democratic party. does the g o p run the risk as it clings to a very tight abortion policy, anti abortion policy of losing this election because of it? i don't think we run the risk of losing the election because of it. and that's because i think the economy is the issue that most people are paying attention to. if you rank what was it impacting voters? um, on a greater level, it's the inability to be able to feed your children. right? that takes more precedence over whether or not you believe in being pro choice of pro life. however, i do think that is something that we've got to get under control because the moment the economy starts to tip in the right direction, we now shift to that 2nd priority item, which probably is the abortion topic. that being said, republicans as we're both, we should be winning this argument. the reason why is because we did our job,
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we did our do deal with a due diligence due diligence. we were able to get roby way, overturn. we were able to send it back to the states where it should be. i just want as, as conservatives to realize that the government is not church. and while we are very strong with, as it relates to morality and morals, we have to ensure that they were keeping a separation. meaning that the church is responsible for taking care of the poor. the church is responsible for initiating opportunities for people to increase in their morality, but that's not what the government is for. so let's not move it from the federal government to send it back to the federal government. let's just stay focused. let's allow the states to handle it, allow our pro life organizations to do what they do on the ground as it relates to getting people on board with our mission, and then we'll move forward. but i do think that it's a topic that we've got to make sure that we have a solid answer on let me just ask you both and we'll short form what you would
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recommend so that we never end up in this situation again with a to very very uh, i should say old of folks that you know, when you kind of looked at opt other options rather what needs the structurally change in the democratic party and in the g o. p, in our politics in our democracy. so that we come up with better options been doing a rerun of something that happened 4 years ago that nobody wanted orson actually, you know, that the, the, the biggest thing that you saw and the republican side was the issue of the primaries. and, you know, so many argue that they went through quick too quick and they keep saying we should have hung in there. some would argue that maybe by and should've had more challenge opponents. do the democratic, pardon me. i, i really, truly believe having worked on campaigns and been around them for the last 40 that
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case is that primaries help candidates get better? primaries, health motors make a better decision. when you nominate candidates without any kind of full inspection or a primary process. you end up sometimes with surprises. had there been a more vigorous debate on the democratic side with president by knowing whether or not you should move forward. i think some of the questions that you're getting at might have been answered, janelle, i'm going to give you the last word. so yeah, i agree, 100 percent. we have to 1st ensure that we have an actual primary process as voters . we need to demand that every single candidate debates is that we don't get to be told what to do. we have to remember that they worked for us. and lastly, i think we also need to focus in on ensure that we're educated or what these major
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issues are, what these policies are, what they're doing, and then put that before all the candidates are paid junior, should have been on that debate stage, chase oliver, should have been on that debate, states is not buying the area. we do have other candidates and the when you start controlling it, it becomes very authoritative for it. it became very authoritarianism. and i believe that we are in a situation where we have to stop that. we have the people, we have the power demands to be fascinating and important discussion, political strategist, janelle king and horse and porter. thank you so much for joining us today. thank you, brad. you. so what's the bottom line? what america and the world sol last week was 2 older candidates who we've all seen before. donald trump, where's his age? well, joe biden has not had the same experience, and he clearly struggled during the debate. now, many democratic leaders are panicking and they're really panicking. we don't know
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what it means yet, is there a chance that bite and pulls out and he opens his party convention this august to a contest among other readings and younger democrats. that would be exciting and a lot of ways and perhaps be exactly the kind of thing to jumpstart, a real discussion about what america wants to do with its flailing democracy. and that's the bottom line, the the,
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