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scholes who reaffirmed their support for ukraine president followed the means the landscape did not comment publicly last month with inside russia with and its special military operation. ukraine agreed to drop its needle emissions with throw its troops from refreshing the occupied territory. demands the landscape dismissed as attempt to mount to surrender access. i'm reaching out to 0. us authorities of wanting that storm barrow cuz we gain strength and hit texas as a category to hurricane barrel was downgraded to a tropical storm after hitting mexico, lucy and human resource. it's the hungry residents of bloom, mainly low income indigenous mayans. wait patiently, in line with us soldiers prepare a meal of fish to rice and beans. the only food most would have eaten since before hurricane barrels mexico's, you could time peninsula don't. on friday i,
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in on thursday night the cut off electricity. now there's no way to cook and we're all hungry. power lines are still down and telecommunication shoddy at best aftermath of the category to storm is obvious to the i would these families live hand to miles, having something in their stomachs is a good start on the road to recovery the storm damage some homes, especially those who can least afford it, like it, and will feed that card to their roof, flew off smoking everything inside, including their cardboard walls. the hurricane season starts now, but they've never come before september or october. and the imagine if it start to move ready, what can we expect? mores. but unlike hurricane otis, which caused catastrophic damage in lift, at least 50 did in acapulco last october. this time authorities took precautions
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and there were no human casualties. at this point, hurricane barrel has become a tropical storm, is that makes its way to the other end of the you can time peninsula from there it will enter the gulf of mexico, where the warm water is good. turner's again into a powerful hurricane before it makes land falls, yet again, in mexico, on sunday, on the road to loom businesses are slowly opening up to us to starting to come out . relieved that vieira might. yeah. the worst is over, at least for now, to see and human algebra to mexico. a test and use for now on out a 0 upfront is up to stay with the news from i'll just say on the go and me tonight out is there is
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only mobile app. is that the, this is where we just fix allies from out is there is a mobile app available in your favorite top to just set for it and typed on a new app from out to 0 new at you think? is it the 1971, a military analyst by the name of daniel ellsberg, lead to the press, a 7000 page top secret pentagon study. uncovering years of official lies about u. s. military involvement in the vietnam war. leak documents, known as the pentagon papers were instrumental in exposing the scope and strategy behind the us as war in the region. and many of the time believed that they could change how the world view war decades later, as conflicts range on in your brain. you have any interest the name of the decision making process behind wars remains as murphy is that what we do know is that
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billions of dollars is spent on weapons and defense contracts every year, making conflict incredibly profitable for so that will benefit from what, who are the biggest players behind the war machine and up front special daniel ellsberg, the daniel ellsberg. thank you so much for joining me on upfront. thank you for having such a large part of your life's work has been committed to not only raising awareness about the dangers of nuclear weapons, but also the money behind them in 2020 is the pin demick raged the 9 nuclear weapon states collectively spinning estimate. it's $72000000000.00 on nuclear weapons and we're now living at a time when the danger of nuclear war, of course, have spike. where does this leave the movement for nuclear disarmament given how much money is that play? and all of this, it was kept us from having any real effect on reducing the dangers of the war all
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these years. there, most of them was quite effectively in helping stop the above ground trish and then very easily under contract stream eventually. but in other respects, it really hasn't been very effective and i don't think the movement was conscious as it should be. of the money behind jimmy effect that had on congress they were really active. so there was just a question of what people watch, which was tool void for work or just political, a strategic aspect. so that is not needed. it's dangerous and so forth. but it's getting very little attention to the role of companies like holding lockheed raphael in general dynamics and the asia as you're far they really weren't affected . it's like talking about climate, which i'm talking about the extra incorporation or shell or should run. and actually that he should wait time or just talk to about pretty much we just don't
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face track and we're facing a large flo shavani directed at keeping the status cool. which is the status goal of extreme nuclear dangerous, specially in times of crisis like this. uh and of climate move on toward the end of this basically the end of the correction little is ation of creek re shuffling and people around the world can talk about the threat of nuclear war. and this abyss that we're headed toward, and that's certainly a piece of another piece of it, is more an armed conflict that's taking place right now is playing multiple countries. you can see that you create and you've got a young man, you've got some malia, you've got the ethiopian list, goes on. but behind wars like that are a weapons industry that you just alluded to. that was worth $531000000000.00 worldwide in 2020 and as of this recording, while the basement ukraine intensifies the stock prices of general dynamics lockheed martin. as you mentioned, northrop grumman raytheon. they recently hit their 5 year highs. so as we talk
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about more, we also have debra who benefits from war. can you help me unpack that a little bit? let's really benefit to see old dress latin slogan coolly. bono, who benefits are going all the way back and we'll shoot for name. let's just go in the last century world war one. the loans by j. p. morgan to the british for arms, for it should british it and had to deal, or even it had lost the war to some extent sharpie marker with a colleague bankrupt. and wilson, our president, could not allow that to happen. it would have been a financial disaster. and like to show on for later on in particular, whoa, whoa, who benefited from vietnam going on as long as you do it? or ref, cashier right now the war that we're supporting in your money true arms to show the review and the way it is keeping it actually genocide a more going on or
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a normative massacre. and i think with very little benefit trig shipped to the i'm sure your factors people ask, why don't we learn more from our failures in vietnam and finish down and elsewhere? and the answer is home solution to learn those for, for very profitable for the people you name for lucky raphael. i'm not sure what the owners are. they just have everything to learn. i'm afraid that right now, there's 2 major purposes that will keep towards it. can keep the water ukraine going, as long as we're in afghanistan. now here's the way that it's being wage now, but by a kind of parental we're, we're supporting that wish report. as we did atkins to sylvia shouldn't have kind of stand for 10 years. and the ukranian people would be ground to pitch in the questionnaire as we ask terms were and yet it's very profitable for people who are
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supplying those weapons. and keep going to use one other major motives that are fictional or the change in particular york. and that is our newest role in or who are not after all european nation. and we have no particular rule in new york in union or your nature. oh, that's just a mafia change culture. no struck our thing. we control natal, pretty much, and nato position execution region to show a norbish them off from arms to now to the farm. already warsaw pact, nations which had only check and read or actually soviet weapons all together. from the moment that you probably and well came down. lockheed representatives were in warsaw showing me, i'm on a need for f 20 tools and for other weapons right here. i can show instructions reasonably ash tree. russia is in the industry, principal enemy,
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in your nothing else can run a female. it's a single enemy that's, that's, that's, that's fascinating language. break that down for me, the, an indispensable. and what does that mean? it means that you can't really justify new tried and shopper range or icbm, which the north requirement is making a whole new life cdm against ellen or i should order. okay, good lakers don't cottage as rationale for multiple, you know, dollar homes budget. only russia has a target, surely sophisticated arms to fight against. you don't need advance 5th generation fighters against people who don't have heavy aircraft or fighters or their own, or sophisticated ones, but russian and know china uh for the future in particular, to offer. not just a rival or a competitor, but someone who can be painted as an enemy against home you have to defend. and of
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course, who know in the last 2 months has just been a bonanza for the garbage people. because it last you've made russia look an offensive enemy or sometime who has to be defended against, with the latest weapons, with new weapons. and of course, russia has it's military industrial complex to it. that's fascinating. reminded me of the black arts poet, gills got herons that everybody loves peace. the problem is you can't make no money off of it. you know, in the past few months, more than 5600000000 dollars has been poured into pain in the form of military aid from the us, from the u. k. and from the e. u. we seen similar situations in the past when us arms were used by libyan and syrian opposition groups. but what happens when those conflicts are over or seemingly over? oh, where the weapons go? the 1st, it's a long time before these kind of tricks you're over. i just,
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you know, you just kind of shannon went on for 20 years and i could have been much longer in libya, what we did was supply lot of weapons to people who in charge. i sold them to other insurance, easily interest groups and others throughout africa and elsewhere. and of course, refreshing. no education on an effect that she can for soviet isis or ocean. sure, yeah, okay. and then we are anxious, so we shouldn't have low back to fix all keeping in mind, hey, didn't highlight these junction just research. we're going to say they didn't invade ukraine. who did that? however, the, in their people, they were in charge of the government were willing to risk a war life is coming from their policies. which for a check, for voc rehab in terms of making it likely that the russian to any russian player would eventually react against it. however illegally, just as we reacted,
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waiting khrushchev put initials into what truly is your tires, you know, specials, did not in fact training our security. and i assure you that is someone who is looking at precisely the problem in the pentagon. at that time working for his mac number, i should say it's not a security problem, initials into what it's supposed to call problem critical. the can this is someone at this stage foreseeable, right. i mean, after seeing what happens in syria with thing, what happens in libby or we as you've done, we can go back decades prior. the weapons end up in the hands of folks who are physically, we wouldn't want to have them. and yet we continue it to fund them directly or by proxy. so i guess the question for me is, why do we allow that to happen? and ultimately, what happens to be, what was, what kind of consideration is given to what happens to these when it comes down to who is we is we're talking about, it's not just,
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it's not just century the tax payers or the citizens who are, by the way, regrettably willing to she, it tests of others who don't look like, gosh, ukraine is getting much more concerned about the casualty using the word crimes because it is not a problem. most homes that are being victimized. sure. but probably the russians in this case, but it's like christians and through my thoughts and to show you their rooms for trying which inter, increase your public pressure that wasn't here before putting all of these on vacations and so should. oh, what's the problem? we hear that matters. one is it provide the large campaign contributions and it provides the personnel and high level sit tight and the insurance benefits fine from them. there's no problem. it may not be very successful, but failing more is just as profitable as
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a winning one. in fact and show proof better cuz it goes on forever to shave the winning is over st with uh we can show you the libby is it is the prime example uh where and to show make sure they have cash and where the webpage fan go to other people, it provided opponents to it adversaries. what is the pat multiple adversaries are also good for the military industrial complex, not only in our country and ignore as well. it's not only american shows the shows . webpage, utility is mainly these. uh, let me see the fresh, the others and uh the russians have big arms markets in the world. according to the institute for policy studies last year, the average american tax payer gave about $2000.00 to the military with over $900.00 going to corporate military contractors and contracts the average
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tax payer contributed about $27.00 to the centers for disease control prevention and barely $5.00 to renewable energy. how do you advocate for peace when so much tax pare money is going to will call it defense. so because in particular, are very resistant to spending on social welfare or any kind for people or anything that in any way seems to compete with private industry. the one thing you can get republicans to a bunch of money for is allegedly national security. even though almost none of these were going to actually add or even relevant to our national security, which they are relevant to making french against russian. you need russia later, china will be the building of little charlie to serve the purpose of unnecessary
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the industry and chivalry. but now it was hard to keep the cold war going uh, fully at full speed with uh, without a rush engine anyway in the ninety's. and the reports of this century, so knowledge back and was back for the attack on russia. but now putting his shit into that in a way that i think was not on welcome to our military industry. if they didn't actually want to drive much or they could even count on russia actually invading another country like to have rush through objecting and complaining and posing and treatment to a great. and so you do the whole year ago, which worker which troops on the edge of the brain and, and brothers. all that was good traditions. and it doesn't, by the way, this doesn't justify privilege, aggression at all. he's
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a did have reason to feel in the longer run strickland a russian security in terms of what kind of show close to their borders like the weapons in cuba. and we objected to, can, can i had no pictures of increase in for training toward vague to well that, and russia has had no legitimate originally from reading the train. but never the less we've pursued a policy that was warmed against, going back to the late ninety's by towards kevin others, the founder of the cold war. and 1st place who should issue and come describable, tell or blender mistake to make an enemy refresher by moving especially into ukraine of some of the us as top spies and military generals with ties and defense contractors end up as intelligence analyst on various news channels. when they retire, for example, former c, i a director john brennan became nbc senior national security and intelligence
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analysts. i sent you shaking your head. i can't wait. what are you going to say? and former c i a director michael hayden became a national security analyst for cnn. how much does this, a compromise with the public is told about what, what else, what that state? well, it depends what you think the purpose of function here is in times of war in our motorized society. and folks from pretty much is to show the public on the need for more weapons and the need to intervene in this country are media is ultimately controlled by major corporations like general electric for a long time. and many other drummers basically told me, shows record to consist of big business. and as i say more is good visions for the media and drill for the administration even when it's failing. so sure, i'm answering your question. it's natural for them to hire these people for
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messages to get propaganda out of who better to do it. that nation military or the she, i people, if you want and list war which can affect the wish has want it for the event something what happens right. what happens when citizens are only told the truth about war uh, after the war's are over, after the government information is leaked after information is the classified. it seems like we only get this under extreme. and unforeseeable circumstances for the people were trying to conceal it. so what does that mean for us as well? the kind of information that we need is a bug for you. um i was represented by such as the pentagon papers, which was the study of vietnam decision making 44526768. i put that out of the 1st starting and $69.00, and then for the newspapers and $71.00 each for that was somewhat related,
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but not too long. but i put on trial for a possible 115 years in prison. that showed down quite a few people, but i didn't see any other big new choice that for 39 years until chelsea manning put out hundreds of thousands of files long as patterson interact. and she was going to show him a half years in prison is no room for his revelations. essential relationship criminality. why the national security agency, the universal surveillance, not only in our country but around the world, but uh, were, wasn't sho illegal, but definitely against transportation in america, it actually is a, essentially a lifetime exile. so these people in general, hail revealed a drone program, but they did what they should have done just as i think i did. what i should have done, but try everyone has paid a penalty, very heavy penalty. not in my case,
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and actual actually committed so many crimes which happened amazingly, almost miraculously, to become revealed towards the end of my trial that kept me from having to go to prison. and she had intended with the others, isn't showing either a trial or prison and that just purchase people. you mentioned chelsea, manning, she of course lead information through wiki leaks. and now it looks like we can expound julianna's size is being extradited to the united states. and we can be, it's published, of course classified information, including documented supposing us war crimes in iraq and again, the stance and publishers were integral to the information but newly about the vietnam war. so i, i'm curious from your perspective, what happens if that president that you spoke to is said that allows governments to dictate what can and can't be published? well, if i may put it this way, it's written just to create a new express position of distinguishable from russians today with julian,
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a charge of extradited if he hasn't yet been extradited. but he was expedited and prosecuted. convicted here, we loan. i've had the 1st instance of an actual journalist. i haven't get an impression for putting out pictures. i was the 1st source, former official to give information like that to generation i was put on trial for . but no journalist is here. we're going put on trial. thanks to our 1st amendment, freedom of depression and present speech, which most countries don't have as the law or a uh, it will be essentially russian good. if julie nashandra successfully prosecuted, and we will have to approach the state control of your information, such as were sitting in russia today. all of these cases, of course, demonstrate the importance of exposing the truth about what's happening when it
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comes to war in other matters. and of course, your leaking of the pentagon papers is a prime example of that. but today, we have an expansion, arise even of this information and it's hard to decipher what's true, what's not, what's fact, what's fiction? how important is it to have actual transparency when it comes to government actions and government decisions about war a hi, i'm afraid you just it transparency and war are 2 words. don't really go to each other. i don't think just together in a hard time, a secrecy that the government carries on all the time about us on crimes and lies and misleading statements in bad predictions. reckless actions, that secrecy you sent me to turn your life in more because you have to keep it from on your enemy. that's one of the senses in which direction. and then we use our indispensable, especially as a city long term, once in a, in a cold war,
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we have to keep things from the russians altogether and show you don't show pick transparency. when people do come out, there's 2 that they either get, they do get prosecutor when it's coming out of the ship, part of it, which is you're just saying is nothing much happens. it may affect public opinion additional except for public affairs. doesn't try pharmacy or whether award can be handled or not. i hoped it would. and in fact, it might change. nixon would show concerns that i might put out his sheep, which, which i did have, but i didn't have documents to prove it. but he thought i had documents in to shut me up. he did domestic crimes against an american me, which actually filtered far more politically, the leading edge of other people we were truly in vietnam or crime against an american congress more. unfortunately, when these things have come out,
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i have to shake not much exchange. so there's a problem with the audience with the citizenry. you could say with our species. and i actually, i do say that our willingness to support on questioning a leader, especially when he or occasionally she can point to something and strengthening their security. and she has to shut down public information about it in order to people who are wrong with have pretty well. and when they find out they're not too many of our own shoulder. trisha getting killed ashley and they have kind of span. they had to go on and definitely have tension was 20 years. ukraine, i think, to 5050 vol down for the russians, came in more, didn't get out, which i don't expect them to, to wish than others will be supporting a little more which quickly just costly to the ukrainians as the gorilla war. this
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p looks at dean, pull it up to at least fight against the show, the edge, and that's kind of stand that cost. so a media and a half asked and lives. and i would hate to see that imposed on the current in people one under any circumstances. i venture war like that in vietnam. and i saw what we did to instructions from the way a bottom crush. several 1000000 lives that has not yet been the price in afghanistan, no matter what, what we're hearing about for crimes, because it will, could be show and negotiated outcome and which constructions are made on both sides . however, i'm satisfactory. mindful to many people on both sides could shave hundreds of thousands to be initial fives. and i would like to see that happen. i don't think, you know, i don't think it will. wow. and on that, so bring note i want to thank you for your time,
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daniel ellsberg. thank you for joining us on a thank you. on counting the cost by them versus trump who confess, what manage the us economy will heavy i realize radical reforms fix argentina's economic crisis plus the chinese mega pool that could help on peru. it's a lot of america's help. it's a trade with a counting the cost on elders 0 pod huge. i mean to be is israel and obstacles piece? i think that the new thing, the f one is government with this is 5 digit, you say getting russell, a thought provoking. odd since the e, you made weapons being used in guns. no guns should be used in an offensive way. that's our facing realities. you're running mean, what does he bring to the table?
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