speaking out in box on a journey to the holes of power, questioning his place in the country. if he's been my day, he's a witness documentary on tuesday, around at inconclusive election. him from spoke with one certain things the far right. what lead the next government left, his blow came out on top, had a present my call centrist with the far right national valley base and into the place. so what does that result me? this is inside store the hello and welcome to the program on the phone. okay, so we know the results of francis not parliamentary election, but what it means politically will take weeks, if not months too much. the left is splunk one, the most votes become full of the government to load neither comic on central to be

the far right. but last to the left, weakening macro on standing on the far right wouldn't be leading any government tumbling from top of the european elections of just a month ago to say, what am i calling this cooling a stop election off the result was true strategy or a reckless move depends on what side of the political fence who sits on to a large extent. what happens next hung parliament will mean difficult negotiations to form the next government. but what does the mean for firms present my crone and your rep will put that to all guess very shortly. but 1st the support, but i'm a costing sharif. i shook this out with an uncertain political situation in from voters and delivered vince with a lift and a major set for the found right. the lift is new, popular phone lines has been the most seats in the 2nd of this not connection with

with a 182 seats. it's the shop of an absolute majority. for now, the campus really have to blow up the search of the fall right for the showing the national riley is far from having the absolute majority. the commentators have predicted scarcity a week ago. in fact, it's totally the opposite. it's an immense relief for an overwhelming majority of people in our country. those who make up the new front, as well as those have always loved the country with the republican passions of preston to emanuel macross sent for some. some of the lines came 2nd with a 168 seats, the default right fleeting into position with a 143 seats. it's a standing the feed for the national valley, which made huge gains in the 1st round of parliamentary elections has last month. party leader jordans adela blaine. the loss of the hasty form left coalition that offended its put them to victory. noticeable unfortunately the alliance of this

toner and the dangerous to look toral arrangements made by the manual mat cronum with the far left formation to night. depriving the french people of a policy of recovery that they none the less over whelming least sided for by putting us in the lead in the european elections. and then last sunday, i don't next to the result is also a setback for preston emmanuel. i'm a crow. he called a surprise election last month. i feel crushing followed. i'd victory and jump in the elections. macro has off, gabriel told to stay on his prime minister often he offered to resign. well, we'll get some, almost a companion from the start of this campaign, i've been alerted of 3 risk spending. the risk of an absolute majority dominated by the far left and as the risk of an absolute majority dominated by the far right, the switch and the risk of disappearance for the movement that represents our ideas in our values. today,

these 3 risks have been eliminated by differentiating on the nokia. we know phones is facing the potential political deadlock. we can book chrome left with mold in 3 years, and histone now have to seek alliances. despite the uncertainty, many of celebrating, as bolt has blocked the fall right from coming to power, yet again or not. so there is this guy i was in the metro areas. we waited for the results. it was crazy. everybody was overjoyed and never heard, and it was great. so we're happy fruits, it's not racist that democracy. i finally, despite the defeat the far right has won the highest number of boats and its history, giving the party's main focus marine lip and hope she's expected to contest the 2027 presidential election. i'm a close, i'm sure if i'll just see the inside story. okay, let's take a closer look at the results and they left 182 seats,

or even close to the 289 seats stated to control the national assembly. presidents have money on my call centers on the phone. the alliance came 2nd with a 168 seats for 3 years left. and this time my chromebook now have to form alliances to run the country. on the far right, national riley, which did well in the 1st round, came inside with a 143 seats. and the republicans to finish forth with $45.00 seats. the. all right, let's bring it all gas style in paris. we have all kinds yellow, a rice, a and an anti racism activist who's also research with georgetown university in london is victim of the senior editor of the financial times and a full of a power bureau chief there. and in brussels, we're joined by suzanne lynch, global paper, ortho, and associate editor of political if i will welcome to all 3 of you, welcome to inside story sees on. i wonder if i can stop with you. we appear to be entering a period of political. i'm certainty, instability, paralysis,

even following the results of this selection, we have 3 distinct blogs, the fall left, the centrist, and the far right and the possibility that the president and the potential governments will be from 2 different policies. so what now for france? big question to start with. oh, absolutely. i mean, i think that's the way certainty is that we are now facing into a period of instability. and this is going to take some time to sort out the election results. it was effectively inconclusive, with no one blog and shaving a majority. so that's the trouble now for a manual maximum the present defrost. he is beat uncharacteristically quiet. so i think it's fair to say have probably come out of the speaking yes on the results, but he is that will be tough for trying to get to the point of view 5 minutes for of be heard there. he have not accepted at the resignation for the moment of add the prime minister. she pointed, just recently i have,

i'm not really going to be looking at who kind of rolling this government out of the, at the far left on the ledge groups in particular together arguing that they should have 1st dibs as fast as books at most people are also making the points that, you know, nothing can happen with that with them also. so that was very much on for a period ahead and take the time when you know the summer assessing in here, i'm coming to from brussels. we just have elections here at the moment of change happening anyway in your so the fact that this is out of his uncertainty is very unsettling. a big so of course the elections in brussels. we're the moment where the staffing pistol was fine. i mean, the account didn't have to cool this election, did anybody? he did. so in the end off to follow the far right game to very well and those european elections, i mean, how much political capital has macro. and last from doing this as well a bit. so i suppose, but i think the results show that you know,

they weren't as bad as expected. and i think we can hop see that my car was not quite as stupid in doing this as a lot of his critics. his critics said, the problem is already essentially a hung problem because he, his party, his group did not have a majority. and he was at for in great difficulty with getting legislation pos and had to do a lot of things by decree. so in a sense, the calling of an election was inevitable. anyway, at some point, i think, you know, the surprise was, it was that he did it so quickly. and the outcome in a sense, justifies his is a type which is that, you know, we knew it would be bad for him, but it's not as bad as it, as it was predicted initially. so, you know, he's, he's, he's still in the game. and as well as one girl this because we're saying that he's, he's still his, his policy group is, is the law is still going to be necessary for the formation of any government to of any group that will support a prime ministerial program. of course. ok,

this much is more and friends than where all the speakers speaking to us from the national right. you may have come so, but either way they're going to play an important role in french politics going forward. whether people like it or not. i mean, there was, seems that you know, a jubilation in central powers on the part of the republic off to the early results came out. how do you and all the people in fonts reads these results? of course, the 1st reaction was released because we were facing the danger of the far right, which is known for being historically or based east. uh, you know, and sixty's the party which i know histories in grand with anti semitism and colonialism. so of course for people of cut off or did you guy it go to i a for women, it's a, it's a relief not to have to do with the police. do the, there were intense intending to, um, to vote. but the 1st, the, at the same time, i think it's important to temper the joy because the, in the,

if we come the number of boats the far right is to the 1st brought to you that you get the most votes, the compared to the other properties and the increase the number of m bees from a t h 8 to a 15053, which is a, you know, an increase of a 58 percent. so that means that they would have more influence on the nation that a sunday. and the like just having to think because in 2017 that were on the 8 and be coming from 8 to 8 p a. t h 9, a date they gained much influence left. for example, the immigration deal that was brought to the december and food by macro. add to include the demands of the sunrise to be voted and that the bill was voted, but was claimed solely by mind. the been the leader of the, of the national already as a victory. so that means that they've had, they've had that had, they have managed to make the racism, that xenophobia a mainstream. and i think that it's

a very serious cross there. and that's we have to, to have because now let in 2020 to 4000000 people voted for the found right now there are there them way more. so that means that racism is much more appealing to a largest number of friends who do those. that is that he's used to be so i think it's just um, so more time that we have one to make sure that we need to defeat that body. but it's not, it's not the full victory according to me, right, victor, following on from what we just said, we're kind of saying that about this normalization of the fire, right? i mean, they have to cause being attempts to look to perhaps easily or hungry for inspiration when it comes to main sprint streaming far. right. so it policies and politics. it doesn't seem to entirely paid off the, you know, i mean, i think, yeah, i think we're kind of upset the right we must have this kind of the fall, right. they've, you know, they've never been strong good in, in the french political system. and they all to die,

and i still think marina pine has a very good chance of, of, of winning the 2027 presidential election based on these results as were kind of said they got, they got the most votes and fights. i think the percentage of the boat in the 2nd round or something like 37 percent, which is more than keeps telling a go in his massive victory in the of the labor and the reason the british election . so yeah, that they are still very, very powerful and i think the, the, the following to be kind of the sort of a quote on sunday to that kept them out of, well, stop them from being the biggest policy in, in, in the most, most assembly. it still worked as well as we can see because the less than a microns good uh, centers. good, did quite well, but it is much, much weaker and much less effective than it was probably because the she and number of us, some of them on nothing on the support is who arise the vote taken and you know, they, they, they have, they have been able to overwhelm me if you like,

the kind of blog against them, from left, a center, right? and, and, and the sensor. so yeah, this is not a defeat for the on the, some of them on us and all the to it is, you know, they didn't do as well as they herbs. but they are still very much in the very much larger players in the front system. and they've other be just one thing about, you know, really depends leadership. she has very effectively kind of a focused on economic issues cause a lot as much as on the immigration, which she did also in the presidential election in 2022 when she got i think maybe 42 percent of the boat and the 2nd round against my call, so it's focusing on the cost of living issues, not exclusively on the issues of immigration, which are not always the most important thing for vote. so i think, you know, we have to be aware that the while the future, the next year or 2 is going to be very onset and those are some of them on us. and

all that marine depend on the far right is still very, very powerful in broad politics and still could produce the next president of friends. um, this is on um, one of the criticisms level, the many politicians within the far right is that many of them are inexperienced and or very young at the same time. of course, to him bardello the presidents of the national valley is only 28 years old. you think that seeing more of the national riley in parliament will help or perhaps expose something in that were built to you to do politics? yeah, i mean, the laughter is what macro and was hoping for that that they will now be exposed and be under more scrutiny. and that will take some of the windex or sales. i had the presidential election and a few years time. however, what we seen in this campaign is that a part that i have captured at the youth folks. and in some parts of the country, he is being a very sophisticated user of tick tock of communicating directly with younger

voters. the kind of a new front for the party and indeed for a lot of politicians, i mean it also picking up on, on what others are saying. they're about, you know, they're not going away. they're still going to have this present of the parliament . they're also going to have a strong presence in the european parliament. we've just heard today that and the party is going to team all with victor or buddies at party and group as a form. now what's going to be the 3rd largest parts ethan deer retirement target group, and they are being part of it i should say. and the hard data himself is going to be fronting that. so we do expect to see a lot more of them at, in the coming months and years now or how they handle this, whether they continue to hold their policies and whether this is enough to may not be appealed to enough folders to, to win the presidency. and try to try to have with me the big question. so perhaps too early for brussels to be breathing a sigh of relief over these results. because if you would, you explain the fact that

a growing number of ethnic minorities as well as young people, is a big to suggest it a voted for the far right to in this selection. it seems to be way beyond simple. is that a phobia this attracting people to the far right here as well? i'm not sure about the numbers as people. then there are people from ethnic minorities for voting for the front. right. but for sure that i'm growing numbers of young people who are interested in the far right. i think it has to do with the sense of um, you know, do them friendship meant and the fact that they feel like they are really abandoned by the power. but i would not leave racism out of the buttons because of, you know, what also i think is the reason why the far right the last of are you know, between and the 2nd round is because between the 1st and the 2nd room we have discovered among the candidates of the for our rights, many, many,

many races. people like many of them. uh, we just kind of, uh, uncovered what amount in the band has been trying to cover for a long time. many of them happen to be, you know, found out the way being like other needs the hots or just posting online. i'm facing the teak or you know, basis grows or homophobic statements. and i think it's the, the call to the idea of you have the far right and i think that's it. the reason is also because there is a that has been over the last 2 decades of raising sentiment. and so i am raised, the rising survey is not moving for the sentiment and nobody's vision of the exclusion of, you know, most things are of the above the explains the fact that, you know, there has been so many debates on, you know, how most name should display themselves and that the debates have been accepted. you know, on the, on the, under the, on the whole body to go landscape has normalize the front of that. and the far right groups come public and be, is number 4 week. and i think that spot of the reason why they have gained so many

votes. and i also want to add on what was just said the fact that many of the companies that just are paid appear to be unprepared and, you know, not really ready to, to face the possibility of reading the country. because, you know, when they had been interviewed and how i want to i, when we did want to congratulate the local radio stations and tv channels for you know, working and i'm covering the front of many of the candidates were not really able to answer questions regarding uh, you know how they would, uh, rule the country. so if it's a, as, because just set the experience one part of the story, but also some work quite clearly hiding very crude racist instincts that have been very hard to hide in the course of their selection. and that's what put a huge number of people off product in some ways. many people as well as the high

turn out across the i don't think that's right. i mean, there are, there's are curious power, those here with, with the united states where you have a sort of, you know, a policy that a group of people that presidential candidate who's been accused of being a white races to who is getting support from a lot of uh, latino americans and, and black americans, you know, this is a very set of chairs, fist situation, but yeah, there's no diet that the regular plan has pop the di, talked by the policy. and obviously it hasn't gone all the way. i think one of the, one of the interesting things is when you look back at her father is jamari la, penn you know who was open the entity semester. she has moved away from that and is not getting quite a lot of support from right wing jewish voters and friends who, who are sort of attracted by i think in part by the the are in the right. some of them all know so knows, and t is why make a point of view. so you have a sort of curious mixture where you've got some ethnic minority groups or actually,

you know, go going for the r n a, but yes, it is true that there are um, you know, the very basic type, sy who uh, so ive been erases, been unable to even speak different as a game public about the things in which they believe, and especially since all apologies had to gather a whole bunch of a new candidates very quickly. one micron called the election. so something that says, i don't want to talk about the, the left new popular upfront because both the far right items, the fall left of both talks about on doing micro on policies, particularly around the very unpopular pension reforms. the raising of the time and age. is this a power in search to the left? simply another form of populism. a? well, it interesting that they'd be extreme is if you like, have done well in this election if you add that at all. but there are concerns, i think, sticking here in brussels about the state of the, of the french economy. i mean,

it was just the end of may when and frogs was downgraded by one of the big raising agencies. there's been concerns about is that i've added the asset levels. i'm, i'm about to say the concern, i mean from the mattress in europe. it is. and the 2nd largest country, the 2nd largest economy, and macro himself has been something of a, of a lead, or the fact the leader, i think, here in europe, particularly since and the departure bank of america from place the arena. so, i mean, people are watching very closely what happens here and is he, so i'm calling let, you know, some kind, some of life has to be made. now in the next few weeks, a model. so people will be watching closely to watch kind of policies, microns and parking will war to, you know, where he and it reads some of requests from, say last, when harvey's about pension reform, or dimensions or other things and how that's going to impact at that stage. of the french economy. so what happens here,

what kind of alliance emerges from these folks that are going to star, it is crucial and what it means, i think for profit of the economy, it is a really important strand of this. recall of course is on the commercial liter of the la 5 party, one of several parties. busy part of this left wing a line screen of the greens, the socialist, the several other policies is being valued, both cool and championing the left, cool se, but that's where the next leader of government should come from, but he doesn't speak for everybody on the left. does he, i mean, medicine has divided the laps and i wonder whether that makes a stable government stable politics. and for us, of course, it has that you have some divisions and a position as we've been that i've, but i think it's important to underline house big picture of the code at the front that the correlation was built in 24 hours is because uh before that, you know,

a company, you know, weeks before, nobody was that would have predicted that the left could come together and build a correlation in order to view the far right. and i think it's also important to, to remind that the reason why there, there are so many and these were elected from the presidential brought to you. because the, during the last to was very good in the we throwing the candidates when they were facing for the far right. and the president of the president that brought to a more, more empties for mobile county dies from the let's respect to the activity. that's rule of the bring themselves in order to make sure that the far right would be the future. even if it was in favor of the prison, detected president out party, then the other way around. so of what was on its movement also is a very controversial figure. but i think that it's a human being, the prime minister is not really on the table. there are many other personalities on the left. and there are many of our options and opportunities that can be billed

. but i think that there's only been a short is to instrumental in the less any, the less has been able to maintain its position. it's position input in the 2020 to a body, missouri eviction problem. and this time use the one who has been, who have been able to bring together rules that does not do not stand for uh, for the same care what, what, what kind of a number less to my call and refer to melo shown in the pos as an extremist, i mean, the disarray between the sentries send the left is, i mean, surely that is just political feel for the fall. right. victor? particularly having big implications when it comes to the presidential election in 2027. it's political view of a background because he's obviously going to try and split sauls. he's got to try and space off. you know, the sort of more centrist pulse of the left to join him in some and folding some kind of a coalition in that way. so i think in a short time, this is really what my cromwell tried to do because he will try to exploit those

divisions. and the luck i never got, there was a, there wasn't a lives left in 2022 but it's, um, it's sort of fell apart and the subsequent months. and then was re constituted if you like, with more or less the same insight. but the same components are just ahead of the selection off the micron called the election. but there's another point that was raised by, you know, divide is the sizes. and i think we are seeing that the french political system is, is quite effective in some ways in ensuring moderation to, to run the system. but there's also a risk of extreme, uh, sort of public partners ation. you know, in 2017 uh there was nearly a 2nd run presidential vote between the fall. right. and the fall left between my law. sean looked at and i didn't find it was my current who came through one reality center. but there was only a couple of percentage points away in the 1st round of the presidential vote from

having a fall, a bus as far right. come to us. so okay, there all kinds of possibilities at the bottom of for the vision and you know, the right, the center right, is also very divided and miles of coverage is not strong either. i'm going to keep the last word to say is um, we've got about a minute left to it says um, because of the, as you mentioned, that brussels may be somewhat hesitant when it comes to fully breathing a sigh of relief. but i wonder, is this the start of a potential correction in european politics, a movement away from my luggage to the right that we've seen in so many countries within the european union? as i said, we've got about a minute left. a. yeah, i think and it is happening just a couple of days for a labor left when governments in britain has been elected. so we've got 2 of the biggest countries in europe now at bare there has been kind of a move away from the rise. and even though, as we discussed, it's a bit more complex not, but ultimately the center did hold in some way and from so there is a, sorry, release there. now obviously the frame system is particular and have the 2 rounds

of building. i love your thinking or looking at this one. maybe we should adopt this in our own countries, but that would be significant. but yes, i mean, the was reading from the european part of the deluxe results, where we saw that or the right. there's a scene of some law of a break on that and but as i said, we still kind of ignore the fact that there are greater number of hard royce, any piece taking the or being part of that is going to matter. now in the next 5 years of this, new european commission begins, it's worth of where from those no publicity and what kind of policies this government decides elizabeth needed to adopt. we'll have an impact here in brussels because as i say, 2nd biggest country has a huge role to play in your eye besides matters. so it has been a pleasure to speak to all 3 of you. absolutely fascinating discussion to write terribly in time, potentially in french politics a weeks away from the olympics. they have of course. well that will be and who knows, but so suzanne lynch,

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