the thing you have one of these governments that these says 5 digit, you say getting less of a thought provoking odd since the e. you made weapons being used in guns. no guns should be used in an offensive way . that's our facing realities you're running. mean, what does he bring to the table? hard from being presidential? could we go to some we cannot take the fact that he was signing up, present as not that important factor. he had the story on talk to how does he ever find any declared and one pos of water own suits on what age is being blocked by the war insides, warnings that will spread throughout the country. as the conflict takes a devastating told on civilians was coming down to help them. and this piece possible. this is inside story the

data and welcome to the program. i'm laura kyle. there's a humanitarian crisis into don. one, the could have been prevented from it and has been declared in zones. um that's a come sheltering. hundreds of thousands of displaced people in the north, doleful region. the crisis as the combination of 15 months of all those claims, tens of thousands of lives and displaced. moving 11000000 people agencies will nearly 26000000 sidney's now face acute hung up as a shop increase since the conflicts begun in april last year. questions are being raised about how the situation was allowed to deteriorate. so could more have been done to prevent this finding. i'm what hope is the, the 1000000 still low risk will be discussed like this with all guests shortly. but 1st, this report from axles them of which as well in order to dart forth famine, has been officially declared to design some camp home to house a 1000000 displaced people for weeks fighting between the sudanese army and the

rapid support forces has prevented aid from reaching them grad in line and your last name we're suffering from lack of food, water and everything else. but we're staying here. thank god. until now we're eating simple food. thank god, we need water, food, health care, and for god to lift this curse from sudan. nothing more than that. they didn't open . the famine is spreading and people in 14 states are it's risk according to the u . when's world food program? and nearly half the country's population, that's 25000000 people. urgently need humanitarian assistance. all of the infrastructure is destroyed. so we're not able to use any other form of transport except air and air is inefficient. it gets us to populations that are besieged, but not necessarily with the volume of assistance that we require right now. the crisis is widely believed on events going back to $29.00 pounds. that's when a nationwide protest stop a long time president omar o bush year. a transitional government was formed to guides to then to democratic

elections, but tension soon emerged between the military and civilian leadership. the general abdul fucked. the alber hon. heads of the armed forces and while i'm at hand and dug alone known as i met the leader of the power miller through brackets, support forces or once analyzing the transitional government, but disagreements over military we reform led to open conflict in the april 2023 fighting abrupt it in a capital hot tomb and quickly spread. more than a year later, the country appears divided with the r as of controlling much of the west. the army holding the east. sexual violence has been used as a weapon of war with human rights watch sang fighters and both sides have frequently committed rapes, often in front of the victims families last week after survive again, association attempt involving control and strike, so dense military really their general output, hon said the armed forces with nothing go sheet with the recess. but in

a surprising turn of events, he then accepted an invitation to attend us sponsored p stocks in geneva. it's the 1st significant effort in months to bring the army and the receptor to negotiating tables. i'm actually a veteran before about noon if they're on negotiations, it does assume doesn't recognize this decision in the state, but the states must be recognized. and based on that, we can negotiate as the general side for power civilians are paying the price, millions have been repeatedly displaced and with them and taking hold. time is running out for the most vulnerable people in so that excess i moved out to 0 for inside story the to that's bringing all guests now and in new york student needs political analyst and bro. costa. hello tap in colorado. i'm god for read l type executive director of

the non past and think tank feed cra, the studies and development. i didn't so don william costa as an origin, refugee councils, country head. he's currently in the east and pulled through don whether sydney's armed forces have been faced since they are a soft. okay, but most of how team of i will welcome to all of you. thank you for joining us on the inside story. william funding has been declared in the west in the full in sam's. i'm kinda going to be talking much more about that in just a minute. first of all, i want to get a situational report from you as to what it's like in the east web in a wage and refuge account. so is able to operate, able to access what is the situation on the ground. the is a terrible situation or, i mean, we have this, this, this farm in elsewhere to saddam. and we also have this war is raging, has displaced more than 10000000 people, almost 3 quarters of a 1000000 people displaced again in the last month or so as they are separate,

assaulted in other states. and uh, and i was just with the teams in guitar is quite close to the front lines trying to help people that i've seen him hold on for days, not even with shoes from the months carrying a few belongings. so the pregnant and some of them are really having to a situation where he doesn't have much relieves actual, complete a part of the crowd. it's a situation that so it's a really terrible situation on the grounds. and so i'm sure they're more about that . another part of the country too. yeah. many, hundreds of thousands of people are at future risk of famine. we've heard about from reports on the ground. just how precarious is the situation at large. it is, it's usually precarious. i mean, where the beginning off. i know it in security crisis, it begins with a 5 minute, a specific kind of, but none of the trends a positive we call such

a large scale situation. you know, most uh, 25000000 people. so in different states, in security. so i'm an extremely principal catastrophic levels. um and so this uh, this, this message, the manager and catastrophe within the country can turn anything on west and also embroiled the entire region of hood. let's turn our attention to this come sams. i'm with hundreds of thousands of people displaced, funding has been declared that can you tell us what that actually means on the ground for the people who are living the as well reports from exams them. and then there is around times them indicate that people have been in time and for quite some time. and this means that it's, we're seeing the kind of developmental indicators. minturn indicated that at the really now i think car, that zen is. and we've seen this in other parts of the off,

know, thoughtful as well as well as other parts of the country, particularly those under the control of the non duper peace agreements, signature youths and movements. so really, this is an endemic issue, but when it comes to exams, i mean, you have to understand that these are people who have been in a displacement for decades now. and their children have been born into displacements, outside of them can have no nothing but the slice. and these are the children specifically that are now um, very much feeling the brunt of this very much man made farming and who have basically been at the but we brought the bronze of stage violence is down for decades now. and i think this is what makes this particular announcement in sims, i'm kinda old a little devastating when we talk about funding, can you detail for us, what's an average family and zones um, would be 18 or notating on a day to day basis as well. i think the ultimate is very little, we will have to rely on the needs. people have to rely on weeds. people have to

rely on whatever it is they can get access to, whether it's from you in agencies like you and hcr, etc. but those agencies themselves report that they have been able to get very little into that as i'm them area because it is being in siege, besieged by the rock as opposed forces. and there are very few empty ways and, and monetary and pathways wet food can be brought into the area. there's also not very much that can be grown right now. several agricultural seasons have failed. and so really people are 18 months in some areas and eating what ever it is that can get that hands on. and that is why we will continue to see the levels of death in areas like some of them skyrocket in the next few months ago. this declaration of finding itself is quite interesting because there's very little access to this area that's part of the problem. so how is such a declaration made because it's interesting that the student is government is denying that it exists. i don't see the city

was me. so here's our costs are the most of the scenario. comment is completed by the video is as long as to what community? $21.00 in each of those warning bodies for the honda there in the winter time thing going on within the hour i see the wisdom passes use is mostly right. question the probably all of a many tables a now why was the end of july 2024. uh the, uh uh so let's do the onto the base. so as long as it seems to be good to have a bidding process seems the same as the community. what i'm saying thought about perhaps is the just trying to find just the vacation tools are not most interesting,

these all things disability every day across. as i'm so instead of that, because new and food trucks are not able to enter a suit on via the andre board of costing that's, that's on the board of things to don in the west and the go off the whole region and chance they have been forced up by the sudanese armed forces to go further north and, and so i don't know the point. why are they not allowed to enter andre, which is the easiest and most accessible border crossing for shoes, numbers of food trucks that are available to go in. you need the finds variables the same as the just man. how about so easy on how i these more easier this i'll be not actually giving you access to las vegas control to use uh for the domain uh for that these because unless you lost, you reach around and see 100 diesels or on the safe community lands on

those off the sale on which side of the go to the uh, lower house will be around $70000.00 seaters. will you give me a few weeks from seeing me and daniels used view and sign off? i seen that you didn't call sales problems. uh so uh, so on, so many off horses, so. com. so given the gross, see some rules laws because also incentives use the, um, the cob was awesome. i'm the governor, passwords, vice uh, bodies. uh, are you use one, okay, but this price is given, so the, the time being go always is growing. not only can you make the flying was the median, so the good, you mean by the pizza or for a hulu?

i'm definitely the r s f is to blame for much of the situation in that saddam. but to what extent can we place the blame at the feet of the sit on, on, on, forced, he's on forces as well. and indeed, the, when for not pressuring the more to open up costing such as outrage of food trucks . is that very much so, cuz remember that it's done starvation as a weapon. a rule has been attacked accused by the security establishment for decades. and people who know anything about the needs history of the, remember this attack, taking the strategy being used in what is now sounds to down in the mountains and do knowledge cetera. so none of this is new assignment is exacerbated by the won't, but it's in of itself a strategy for her. and this is why we're seeing the sydney's offices. i try to limit what the amounts of a that can come in to address, even though they do not control that bullet a point. and as you say, the un here is in timing complicit because why us shoot an entity and

a warren coffee that does not control a bowl that gets say, oh the, what, pressing that pull that when there are many, many people who would benefit from that thought being across and yes, there are risks that'd be our staff might take food. they have done before. that is well documented. but there was a humanitarian empowerment to pay the trumps. and the claim of sovereignty, either by the south or the r as that. and the us not questioning that as they did in syria along with other and jose and in other context before we put some lot of sit in these people, millions of sit and these people at risk when we compare ad, right to the teen crossing, tina is currently on the woods and completely impossible. and so address is the only option that remains and not using ad, right? it's highly allowing the to warrant deposit to dictate the terms of a delivery is actually buying into this stop ation as a weapon of whole strategy. when, when you've got both sides blocking aid from reaching the people,

how. busy difficult, is it on a day to day basis for 8 organizations such as yours to do your work in this? explain the typical yeah, this is a message down, a response is required. and so, you know, sorry, boss, country, logistically complex. we don't have the financial resources, so then to have all the bureaucratic and security challenges that come with it. so just some more. but how this floor is getting access to the store. it's it's, it's dramatic. so we would have been able to do much more much earlier, had that been easier access on this to be honest, the specificities don't to be able to prevent this tragedy, which we knew it was coming from us. and i agree with. yeah, absolutely. so read out of the situation, we really need to push forward to make sure the motor crossings are open so we can

get to mandatory and related to that to people who most need to know much especially that those of valuable i've got. let's look at the instructional response because the numbers ensued on a staggering by any stand, a 25000000 people off of the population in need of a gent, humanitarian aid, 8500000 people facing extreme food shortages. and yet there was no sense of urgency amongst the international community to act. why not? i think this is the existing gives the 1600 them up to me going to be the uh, prophecies that i can be using that there's a lot of interest holes in the community, but this is also home. the see the, the scene game or the visa is this using amenities or balls or is that science to cause? i read it for the scribe data. and as i mentioned,

the balance of the forms form on the sort of those artists because it is also in tulsa, we seem to attend to the online was so that you do not. smoky dollars is terms of statisticians. eastern cost is on uh, on, on the cleanings is uh, the story seems as well just the, the, the small say that it is not me saw. did you get the back? i do the transfer process realty. so how soft these meeting you difficult for the test will in don't do it. when he goes out of the new thing, then the structure is safe for cellphones that the cause of safety and displacement

also have the deeds pro active crimes. that's all he's doing. if you need to sense and everything, right. and then we have this, don't go through all these products. is the most of these. okay, well that could well be an opportunity to do that next week colored. we've got us sponsored seats for our tools do in geneva. both sides have accepted but they will attend. but the question is, do you think they'll show up as well? the question isn't whether they'll show up a to will show up the americans of what the senior leadership provides a site. that's general. what hot on the south side of the general him at the on the are assessed side and they are assessed. have said that they will come because they are very eager to put the best foot forward when it comes to the international community. they've committed so many egregious crimes. and incidentally, that very desperate for that and to international legitimacy south, on the other hand, has been more reticent around this and the assassination attempt. and what han last week has made the more hesitant, shall we say,

to send the leadership. now cause it, hans says unequivocally that he himself will not go then of course, neither will general him, etc. and then may perhaps even neither one of the senior representation on the west side. so we might end up with an event in switzerland. it's actually much less high profile wherever and you have, you know, sort of a mid ranking or middle level representation from both sides and, and similarly from the united states and all the mediators. what that would mean is that there is still an opportunity to discuss some of the security issues, and more importantly, somebody come out of tyrant, protection issues, even if the sci fi tools at the top level one, go ahead. now here's the thing that i think is important to stress a ceasefire and sedan will not save lives inside and historically we see 5 lead to more or less of life. so i think this is really not necessarily the thing we need to be focusing on right now. the way to save lives right now is through protection mechanisms is through massively searching humanitarian age and humana,

and humanitarian response. well, do you think about the talks in geneva will prioritize the humanitarian respondents and how might that look? how should it be changing to properly address the desperate needs of people? and so don't or are you able to have some data diplomacy to, to, to bring the size together? i'm agreeing to monetary and access is one of the funds for the discussion. to be honest, it doesn't need to happen like this. we've got of this pressure and especially with the assignment now to class and massive, it just basically continuing to should be more pressure on, on both sides to comply with international humanitarian law in allow access. and so i'm hopeful that it will be changed. it's not clear how, how easy it will be to,

to bring an outcome of this event. we remain a little, but to be honest, we have still preparing for the worst. and in continuation we have to, you know, many of our teams see people, 60 minutes is a child is dying every day because families that maybe have home, you know, a day and a subsidy, even if there is a elementary spawn, that comes out of this. we're still months away from stopping hundreds of thousands of dollars. i'm got these talk to the co hosted by style, the egypt, the u. a is, as you mentioned before, they have a stake in this fight. so can you explain how these outside forces and also we must look at russia and a rom that are sort of coming into the pool. they say at how they all exacerbating, i'm feeling as well and making it as a difficult to come to a conclusion is the you is here's what i

was last is 50 on the situation. there are many uh for the tv is gonna be good to go. this is be our so it would be the uh, the internet and game it, all of the so most common on site still sold in the future. is that the use of the salt lots. aust, if with these new little bod, towards that they are removing the size of the for the last a few weeks without actually on the floor seems to be the agreement as on for c or so. and a security concert was that it was, it was basically as in say, 15 minus the walls. i probably be so liable. wiggins to do that for fire, which you are lead the be a huge,

but i think it will be very difficult. those thoughts or so got what can you need from the i mean, she used to be always thing on sort of the floor. this one, these are very stall, veritas, due to what in the last sentence overlook the importance, the significance of saddam's civil organization, the local network of resistance committees, local volunteers, will a highly active in the communities they to many, in many instances, all the one supporting people in this dia, time, how come into national community best to make use of this boss network on the ground and providing aid provides in cash and actually hoping to alleviate the situation as well. that size team is being tested to meet you basically, pounds, and all these mutual aid groups and volunteer groups on the ground. and then once they realize that that was the only ones who could deliver that has now been sort

of a slights, regardless of whether it's been too much pressure on them to really meet them at the tasks of the day, which is to distribute to monetary and aid and i think that needs to be a happy medium. you know, these groups to me. i have been saying themselves that they want to work in partnership with international aid organizations, instructors to better deliver aid. they don't want to be, you know, sort of the end of the line deliver as in an otherwise very top heavy system. they are very cost efficient. they use every single penny. they don't take that many overheads, they have shown value, they have the work and have the trust of the community and level they should be part of the decision making about how a gets spent in the 1st place. rather than just being relegated to, you know, sort of implementing positive that shift has happened. and we have seen actually an international community, particularly you, in agencies, very much resist localisation, something that they have paid lip service to for years now. and be more of a, you know, sort of cooling the access code and saying that they kind of themselves into this

of course, does not make life because it needs people any easy and the structure is all that just needs to be properly used. okay, so you wouldn't mind will be popping to using it with them. but as of in a wage and refugee council properly using these structures the way because the father of so many bands, i think that they are doing the best uh at helping hundreds of thousands of people and particularly difficult parts of the country. so, you know, so i'm going to be no favor on that role. and i think that it's clear, say they have a place that you monetary and decision that you then more importantly for me and that one of the few stories that give me a call. as you don. i know it's just simply context, whichever way you look military politically in terms of just about sharing response . but these basically, i've seen these buys to meet communities adding together to,

to provide you more kitchens to provide collector shelters, to continue by the co ops needs to be supportive. when trying to support and integrate difficult situation. we're going to come true on changes based on the safety risk. so we try to do it in a sense to we completely agree that they need to be some concepts. and so as soon as possible, i mean, we're all students in a much larger scale. i've got just in the last minute that we have left of a stop question for you come from and can widespread farming across through dawn billeted. yes, even what we need is the thoughts or everything to be that because we well uh very all can you see what we need to actually have crime, right? no, no, need to start with this. i mean, but this the same time if we lose the re, tulsa of interest. awesome. i'm still kind of thoughts and yeah,

but to use of it's always use. okay. all right, well, on that, so hopefully we will leave it the hulu had got, sorry to l. type and william called so many thanks for joining us here today. and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again, any time by visiting a website that's out, is there a dot com, a valid discussion to go to a facebook page that's facebook dot com, forward slash a inside story. if it was a doing a conversation on x on hamlet at a inside story from the laura co and the whole team here is bye for now. the security concerns and political uncertainty, or just some of the issues facing the organizers of the 2024 olympic games of paris

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