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hello welcome to the program. i am hush him a bottle days of violence in parts of the case to by based on fall vital elements that to some of the most widespread rest. seeing that he is with police has stretched to the limit the work goals for british troops to be called in, but it was an ponti of different kind that's helped stop the vice for now. thousands of people opposed to racism and her support refugees and migrants came out to enforce a wednesday night when more than a 100 fog lights, why us would expected, but did not materialize. the major police track down has seen hundreds of a rust, some fast tracked through pools and jail already, but an, an easy comp remains what led to violence assess speed and scale. good public reactions of the far right into permanent retreat. and just how much of a factor is hesitated to, i guess, migraines of racism in but just politics and media. we've been discussing all this with august in

a few moments. first. this reports from image in combat of to days, appointments and times and cities across the u. k. a dramatic response. thousands of people coming together to demonstrate against relinquishing reuters and racism. products protected buildings with mike and some of the cheese have been living. they were going to attack this center based on the fact that it's an integration. and so the community came out today to help her to protect the the refugees in and let them know that there was one annoyed when really, when groups at ode support has to come back onto the streets. many, it said the worst 6000 specialized police officers were deployed to maintain who to really government to throw some leadership on deal with this issue of race. as of one, some people we are a multi cultural, multi colored,

multi faceted society. when i see women saying i am not going out today. when i see kids not wanting to go out to play. is this the future of britain? no, wait, no. my watch. the buttons began in england and spreads and moving on. and after stopping at the don'ts close inside port of the attack, i killed 3 children, an injured at another age, almost immediately false claims, spread online that he was an assorted mc cuz that he had a real item smooth bug that he was a muslim. none of which was true. split the police publicly correcting fox unrest. abrupt dude groups using online platforms to mobilize support is the problem because we linked to the english defense leak and the former leader convicted criminal to me. reuben sir k prime minister condemned erases. roy. it's not protests,

i'm going to is involved with feel the full force of the little. i was very keen that we're able to demonstrate that if you're involved in disorder within stages, you'll be in the criminal justice system. and some people stopped in the long terms of infringement that needs to continue. hundreds of arrests who were to be made with many more expected police are using the ample video evidence to search for suspects. social media companies are in the spotlight. it costs a strict laws governing hate speech and racism. 09. you don't mosque owner of the platform x has spoken. i echo and criticism by right wing groups of policing tactics and even kissed on some see this is thomas post testing. come other see it is a test of moving multicultural. britain imaging came out to 0 inside story the let's bring it all gas from

london with joined by jeremy called in an independent member of parliament and formerly to of the kind of a body and less ties it will spawn electra of the university of less time why she specializes in migration is from a phobia and also in london is the form i choose to pay attendant in the metropolitan police. thank you all for joining the program. jeremy, who should we blame for these riots? i think the 100 you blamed the far right for the mobilization and the heavy use of social media. the spread lies in this information and then say that they want to attack the immigration lawyers and legal aid centers. places by refugees and migrant communities are assisted by the other side of it. you have to look at some several years of language which has been about blaming refugees for the social problems that britain faces, which is actually nonsense. it is not the fault of refugees that we have

a housing crisis and then the way in which of the far right to able to mobilize some degree of simple. but i think what's been impressive and effective in the last few days has been the huge town out of basement paid for. just say, we're not tolerating this racism all this violence in our society, but it's not over yet. there are still many issues around the country on this, which we have to price up to in the next few days. the deal that sentiment against muslims against immigrants is increasing in, in, in europe and in the u. k. but is it fair to say it's just the file, right? or should we include the tall race? would we include the most powerful in media for high minute heinrich of the same message time and again about the spots or the supposedly existence of threats of muslims and immigrants in the west?

yeah, you're absolutely right trash. and thank you. i'm festival for, for having me. what we have is a combination of 10 to 15 years of demonizing, most lens demonizing migrants using them as a punching bag for all of the ills that plagues this country. whether it is the lack of funding and public services, the lack of funding for housing for these an accommodation education, you name it the last 1015 years of the tory government has been an abysmal record. and they've been using migrant and most lives to divert the public's attention away from that abysmal record. and i think when you normalize this number for b, a, when you know relies negative hatred language, it becomes an open door essentially for anyone who wants to attack muslims and who wants to blame others for the problems that they have it themselves. and i want to also note that this is happening in the context of palestine. and so there's

a lot of empty palestinian sentiments that are also coming out when, when all of these criminal activities are happening on our streets. a don is the police come down having an impact here? do you think it will be able to contains or violates anytime soon? i think it's expanding mind that this country is separate from each level of those tennessee where the level of placing has been cut down quite significantly. so we've lost 20000 police officers and 18 a off 1000 police tall. the big, the government in the process of replacing them. so we have a very inexperienced police force of the moment. almost a quarter of the police force across the country is basically under 5 years experience. so they have less, so they have limited experience. i think that the thing oversight is 2 factors that i section the response to the far right. now, one is the sentences which are very severe. so full vonage disorder. within the

space of 7 days, people are going from commission, the offense to being arrested, charge placed before the quotes and send to prison for 13 months. so there's a, it's a very, very foss system. so i think the far right demonstrates you the relation to this consequences to that be. i guess the other aspect is that the place has mobilized and has 6000, especially slight drained offices, will up the plates strategically across the country and respond to any kind of disorder that breaks out. so i think those factors on having a response, but i don't think we can mess our levels we. we need to see what happens over the next few days before we can pretty that aside for lease. but i think there's been a low and i'm and i hope that continues, but i don't think we have the legit. jeremy, always thoughts on july 3rd to the 1st when the vice spread across england and possibly northern ireland. and you would us to you or you would think of peaceful our view as the western democracy. politically,

those would step in and try to the com. the street explain to people and bust some of the prevailing missed by example about islam on the immigrants being that exist done so spread to the u. k. but when you look at the totally, the fog light on the bottom that you let in the past, the labor that the, all these policies have one thing in common. they've been pandering to the find wide photos for quite some time on the world. another responsible for this you're right own across europe, there's been a growth of the fall, right. the fall right to the come very strong in many, many european countries and in britain reform for example, got formally invited to in the recent general election at up the, a, tory and reform vote. that's bigger than the labor vote in the general election that i provide wasn't very impressive until it was a contract. lo,

other was achieved in 2019 where the fall right to grow in any country in europe. the conservative policies or equivalent tory policies all across europe have themselves moved to the right. the socialist and social democratic policies have often then moved to the sense, uh, an oil used rhetoric, which is in effect blaming migrant. so you have this ludicrous debate for the past 2 years in britain, at least about stopping the boats coming and blaming the people traffic, cuz people only get into those boats out of desperation, that human beings trying to get to a place of safety. those people coming from cali on not the cause of britain's housing shortage education on the funding, or any of the other social problems that are letting this test to people and their behavior. and so labor leaders as well have played into this by saying they will control immigration as the immigration is the problem. they also know when they

think about it and all across europe is actually folding population, them, folding bus rights. and the only people that are going to provide the workforce, the future are actually migrant communities that have been very important in keeping health and social services running. and so part of the sections of intended rig. so the far right for several years, this past 10 days they've been in the absolute panic because they've seen where that padre needs to last. they started saying actually we've got to stand up for a multi cultural, multi ethnic, multi lingual society, and be proud of. and work with it. and so the effect has been important to the other point i just make about the leasing. very interesting and very important point. doug didn't have a number of meetings where it's very saying the place of as i was the last few days and also talking to the police and my own community. the police actually can see that on wednesday,

the really powerful thing wasn't necessarily the police thing. it was a numbers of people who in country towns and big cities all over the country, came out and said, we are standing with the migrant communities. were standing with the refugees and not going to allow these attacks to take place on most newspapers, who spent the last years complaining about the anti races campaigns complaining about those to all of us be margie and simple palestine and against the bombing of gaza. suddenly they found that actually the popular reaction of many things around the country has made an enormous difference and was just all over. and there's many demonstrations planned this weekend. i think there's been a very significant political turning point. no, thanks to the political leaders of the past 5 years. they've been blaming refugees every, every science. so those people that just came out and said, all right,

and all named it did when, when you see a country where you have the full, the home secretaries. so a forever man, warning of a huge with kind of migrants coming to the okay. or when the labor party itself, it's lead to the comma, talking about the need to smash the criminal. those guns are the same time you look at some of the most powerful use papers that way. they just got back to rise. the presence of immigrants, so with a way of them is correct to rise. immigration, the way that demonized immigrants are we talking about a shifting dynamic itself, some sort of a turning point in the political landscape that sort of how she it, people need to realize that language has impact. and one thing that we haven't been doing enough in this country, and i say this as a media academic is when not scrutinizing our media enough. we haven't normalized the demonizing of muslim communities. we have normalized the demonizing of,

of migrants and escape coaching them for every program that exists in this country . and the media had an active role to play in that when you're giving front page coverage to someone like bored as john said, who's referring to most of them, women as the communities and that's the boxes that is absolutely um, either unacceptable and it's, it's that kind of language and media coverage of negativity that has become. 2 mobilized for the last 1015 years now, it is completely acceptable to attack muslim spaces to attack migrant. and i also want to point to the fact of, you know, the challenge of this information when this attack this, this unfortunate um killing of these 3 little goes to plays immediately. we had this information that was spread about the my, you know, the attacker be an illegal migrant that came last year. only thing the and who was of, of most the most of them face. and they all came out in droves. literally the police came out to set the record straight to say no. in fact,

the gentleman in question was born and cause if he's up around defend. and he's a christian that did not stop people from continuing to riot because the biases that they already have confirmed and that hes chimes in with this information. so we need to pay attention to the role of the media, particularly the role of this information that could be spread on social media and hold. these digital media designs accountable as well as our mainstream. you can media, dr. years in the police have been trying to build bridges between the community and the police force of the same time you've been broken on the need for more diversity within the metropolitan police. when you look at the situation of forwarding, those wise, what, what do you think is the root code for this? is it, is it racism the biggest challenge facing the budget society? yeah, i mean, if you're calling the discount racism, britton doesn't always sales. i'm comfortable talking about racism. it feels much

more comfortable talking about other types of discrimination. but when it comes to racism, it's a, it's a topic that is, is very, very difficult for the business people to, to discuss and accept that. there are significant challenges around race in terms of police force we, we don't still have a chief face of the 2 comfortable who he's on the block away can despite over 60 percent of the population painful models, he has to be backgrounds. so we, we have, we have somebody wants to play service project. i think one of the biggest challenges that the police ending date. all the, all the administration's governments have is the social media. we have a loan must talking about the civil war. we have just as the fall, right, using the social media to organize events and spread lies. so we, we, we go into the habit of talking about this information as to like way of sending

lice. it's courtney and so it was. and what happened when the tragically admitted putting those that those 3 goes wherever that emitted immediately the fall, right? started spreading lawyers on the internet and the internet did not. x did not stop the platform, did not stop it. and basically what they said was that this was a most thing and so that, that then consequently led to attack. so most most good, the most sweat attacked. similarly, damage bent. and then we had this situation where hotel, which was on sale, which day we're waiting for a decision. those were attacked and the san right white folks basically start then trying to bend the buildings down to kill the people inside. so, you know, we mustn't lose sight of how serious the situation and feed. and thankfully, we've had a couple of nights where the do to the, the much saves plays presence and the communities come at the end,

the sentences that i think those 3 factors all contribute with now, how do you situation where things are ok, then we have to wait to see what the impact will be as a weekend jeremy, who wrote to let to along with all of them and piece of the secretary of state for the home office on the need for the tough measures against the phobia and hatred speech. when you look at the history of legislation in the u. k, a, particularly when it comes to targeting of a phobia, hate in particular and crimes against immigrants. if you could have some of the, the had loved the continent of the sixty's or the seventy's when it comes to those legislations. why is it now lagging far behind? what is the problem? do you think? i think britain may suffice up to the fact that there is a serious racist problem in the country that there are systemic levels still of discrimination. and the point made by the lack of c d, a police officers from black minority ethnic background. so lack of any chief

constable from those backgrounds and even in london where i'm not charged for force and the rest of the country come from black minority ethnic backgrounds and uh, we want to see some changes there. but the results. so this question of systemic is donald phobia, much of which is not reported to the place because the victims already often muslim women suffer abuse on the streets on the buses on the trains don't report it. so it goes on reported. therefore, the issue is not taken seriously as it should be by the police as a whole. and the way in which there's a constant denigration of people of mazda in price. and as long as there is a big concentration on opposing anti semitism in society. and that's right and is how much is, is it totally evo cold and exactly the same way that is level phobia is an evil cold. and so we do have to be much stronger in supporting the diversity of

our communities, diversity of face, but also recognize that the feeding ground of the flashes through the fall, right. as in germany before the 2nd world war was always saying to people who were off against it and pull, needing better jobs, meeting better services needing. but a higher thing that they hear the language of blame against migrant saying we can't cope is typically migrants rather than looking at the issues of a quality within a society. and so it is about opposing racism in every form. it is about supporting the communities under attack ins right today, muslim community. but it's also about dealing with economic and social inequality in our society. and saturday, the economic proposals put forward sofa, bicycles, thomas government have not sought to address any of that. it deal when you look at

the high profile and to muslim octave, it's like telling me robinson, the way it's been cut off to rising base as a hardworking families fight against the political establishment we're seeing here . and you have pattern in british politics, which is basically far wide shaped thing of the narrative. i think it's the spread of populism across europe that you know, is affecting departments, extend the u. k as well. and unfortunately, we tend to see and if we take a sort of broad, a historical view in terms of west and politics, it, whenever there is a, a high level of the inequality associated quality, economic inequality, pull, housing, pool, and resources available for as for, for social services whenever there's a big crisis that affects the economy. we've had breakfast here. we've had coven, we've had the ukraine rush of crisis,

that conflict has been going on for for years. and now, all of that tends to create an environment that looks for an easy escape goes by the political need is because they don't have the competence all the capability or the, well sometimes to deal with these massive big problems that the germ recording, just highlights it instead, they look for easy ways to divert the public's attention from all of these big companies. and unfortunately, claiming most slim planning the margaret community has become the go to not just here in the u. k by people like not to for raj and 20 bucks. incense, but we're seeing that across or at least i think it's the issue that really needs to be tackled. we need to okay, face that ha say don't divert our attention. we know what the problems off the face with it and lead with integrity down. what would be the main challenges facing the police force in the upcoming days if the biased continue as well. uh, just like if i just make one point basically is yes, we don't have it. we do not have a definition of is on the 3rd. yeah. and i think there's been an attempt,

several attempts to try and get a definite the very fact that we don't even have a definition of his i'm a thought. yeah. is, is a huge gap in how we do without told them which or you'll guess, talked about. and i think that the thing always on say that we need to consider is the place of working incredibly hard. i think we need to give credit where credit is due at the end of the place of what is local communities and with me, with the colts and the government to ensure that we have a good credit on on this problem. i think they just need to be continued so, so the next few days, but remember the dates are being arrived, signed off, so it's tough. you know, you're going to look at yourself in the morning. you don't come home until 2 o'clock in the morning. and then you'll start again, i hope the next morning and you do that so we'd have to wait while the disorders happening. so you know, at, you know, a moment just assign the plays for the incredible workshop doing to find the a beat the races,

fascist and bring them to justice. jeremy. despite all the surveys, the studies that have been saying that immigration and diversity are good for the economy, a good for the job market. they have never been serious about western democracies or to your in particular. yet that sentiment that immigrants out us what resonates most strong government ever among people in the west. do you think it's about time for politicians themselves to reinvent themselves to be able to convince people that there is a difference between assumptions and reality? which does not seem to be the case that the politicians shouldn't stop conceding ground to the right stop conceding grams. the resistance stopped the blade and culture against my goods and refugees, migrants and refugees did not cause the housing crisis. they didn't cause the wages . employers cause low wages, governments, lack of investment, cause

a housing crisis. they also need to look at the way the media constantly demonize, particular communities, often the muslim community and keep on building up this sense of resentment against them. so there's a role here for the media, for journalists of an old places to think about what the reporting and the way that they're reporting it and calling out which is number 5. you and you're quite right, there isn't a definition of is number 5 either or to be one. and so we just need to understand that if we keep on politicians, that is conceding political ground to the file, right. which drags the center ground further to the right. you then end up was it kind of hard to show that we've had over the past week or 2 in britain. and this happened in many other parts of europe. we, if we want to live in a decent fast society menu, include everybody, a new respect, everybody at the same time. i did just think that there's some things that could

lead the minorities to further isolation in europe. the okay. in particular, if you speak to most of the communities today, here in, you know, in the u. k. majority of them will tell you that they are scared to go outside. they are scared to go about the daily business to do the grocery shopping, to take the kids out and it's, it's summer holidays here. so the kids are at home. that's got to take the kids out to play on, you know, in, in the, in the local talks and go out and enjoyed themselves. people are fearful because they seeing the attacks that has been so targeted against them. and so we have this climate of see are now that people are affected by what we need to do is to really come out, install the diety, and support the thing with losing communities, as well as the migrant communities. and i want to commend all of the face leaders, the, the police, the counselors, the local civil society organizations. active is

a bit of ready to come out and drove last night in the you know, the night before. and i heard that continues to really show solidarity and say we are thank you. if he's safe, he would have to unfortunately leave it that jeremy call been at the last month. the bu, i really appreciate your time and your insight. thank you and thank you to for watching, you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. i'll just see the dot com for further discussion. go to on facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside slot, or you can also join the conversation on x. alejandro is at a j insights voted from the house. you might buy on the entire team here in the house, bye for now. the on counting the cost fee is of a u. s. recession put the presidential camp site of campbell of harris until the test was from european nation, still buying washington oil. both take a look,

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