that in their own words 3, i'll just leave a general as described, working and survived through his rails or so of course a lot of my bad well i was calling and especially as much as i know. so with journalism on the genocide on a just you want to report, but at the same time you want to feature probably you also want to stay alive. israel bombs and other school and one of the worst attacks that it's one god. yet it says it will ascend ceasefire. thoughts brokered by the us guitar and egypt next week. but thomas has a new leader since the assassination of his model and the a. so what are the chances of a deal this time? this is inside store the

hello and welcome to the program. i'm several of any each day, a new horse. so the people have gaza. the bombing of a school killing more than 100 palestinians is the latest is really bonded struck as renewed diplomatic efforts for negotiations. or intensifying brokered by guitar, egypt and the united states its hopes, but talks will resume this week. previous attempts sought to cease fire the return of his really captives held in gaza and an exchange of palestinian prisoners held by israel. but since the last major negotiations broke down, there had been big political changes the head of hamas and gaza. yeah, yes. and war has been elected. it's overall leader replacing is mile him. he was assassinated, isn't that ron and the president joe biden is no longer in the us presidential race . a contest now between donald trump and complet harris. so what are the chances of success? we renewed international diplomatic push for a ceasefire. and one of the biggest obstacles will be discussing the situation with

our guests shortly 1st. so this report from image and kimber. and it's really a talk on a school and goals a cause more than 100 palestinians during morning. pres, an extra like launched as capital egypt in the united states. cool for another round of negotiations to end the violence to the school building, 39000 people, an injured over 90000 sense of type of and stopped the risk of a major regional who mean as the expansion of the war has become a serious possibility. if the international community and the concern countries do not move immediately and effectively to stop the war, crimes being committed by israel, but accusations of war crimes have no impact on a reception recently given is ready. prime minister benjamin netanyahu in the united states, where he met president j, pardon vice president, coming to horace and her royal presidential candidate. donald trump was given 50 standing innovations. see address congress,

no indication any disease or hope israel's will. and the joints of an escalation has increased since israel assassinated a senior has been configured. and by route i'm the head of, i'm us is political. when i'm one of the groups may negotiate is, is man honey into her own money. so he's getting is a major blow to the tools, according to media reports, and israel is ready. negotiate is believe nets and yahoo is also storing attempts see spots of political game as he faced as close to step done. yet israel has confirmed they will attend a new rind scheduled for august the 15th. but now they will be negotiating with an organization let by. yeah, he us and was formerly the head of hamas. and goza soon was widely considered hard line. i believe to be the most mind behind the attacks on southern israel. on october, the 7th was sitting while i was previously imprisoned by israel and a spaced assassination attempts on the table is likely to be an already established

framework. based on the 3 stage these far in the united states, the presidential election campaign is intensifying and democrats hoping if a ceasefire negotiated by president j. boyd and is agreed, it will help his vice president, democratic nominees coming to harvest is chance of winning. and we'd find being named genocide j by critics, but his role in supporting is ready military during its full powers is also facing pressure. this riley purchased the 2nd time facing new to respond year. now is the time to get a ceasefire deal. the in the president are working round, the clock goes a posted in suffering from baldwin displacement, hunger and disease can only wait to see if this latest attempt to cease fly becomes a reality. and with many nations alarmed over this direct of a regional, with

a sense of urgency over the coming attempts to end the heart. and garza is a huge image and kimber out 0. the inside story. let's let's bring in our guess from ramallah is most stuff up are good. the secretary general of the palestinian national initiative from tel aviv is gideon, leaving columnist with the hearts newspaper and author of the book, the punishment of gaza and from boston is rami holding a political analyst and distinguished public policy fellow at the american university of the road thank you very much to all of you gentlemen. for joining us . i want to start discussion with the exact same question to all 3 of you. which is, the mediators have been working on ceasefire negotiations since november without anything to show for it. during you believe that this new push for a cease fire can get somewhere with stuff. and let's start with, you know,

i don't think it was good anywhere as long as nathaniel and his freshest government dot info. and as long as the united states administration refuses to exercise, any serious pressure on the 0, nothing. yeah, i will continue on genocide in gaza and will continue to try and to push that asian into these, you know more. he is a very dangerous man, and do you know is very when the end of this, what is the end of his political cutting of getting a full set to the i couldn't think primo was by frame book, silver o d. namely, because the main office, the good, he's nothing you know, and he did don't change his mind and we would discuss the claim, the whole thought he's multi patients, but it's very key. and he does look to the now and maybe ok anytime you ros. this want to continue at this notice this is the carries,

or the good wheeler or the men the joe's can continue to spread robust season request. that's the would change and if any of so how many do you think there could be perhaps a deal at the end of this new push? i agree with my friends and colleagues and stuff, we shouldn't expect anything to happen given the reality of the israeli government and the american government who are the, the main obstacles. but i also, i, you know, after 45 years of following this stuff. um this uh issue uh closely. yeah, you always have to wait and see if anything changes down the road. the only thing that makes me want to uh, kind of suspend judgment a little bit is the terminal political situation here. the united states will have an unprecedented situation where the power assigned as you guys are in particular the as rarely genocide and the american funding of environmental says in particular, they are suddenly on the domestic political electoral amount. we don't know if they

will have an impact or not, but things are evolving very quickly and the domestic american political scene and gas is if it's not central, it's certainly a critical element in the changing environment. but the evidence of how the us says behave for the last 10 months. and the last 4050 years suggests that that we should not expect on thing to happen. because even though this stage isn't somebody asked, think about what the israel is doing, i'm guessing. okay, so listening to all 3 of you uh you, you've mentioned netanyahu, uh, both the stuff and get in to have mentioned netanyahu as an obstacle to piece. and all 3 of you, uh, i believe, have mentioned how important the us role is here. so let's start with that. you know, we have to cover both anyway, but let's start with that. you know, most stuff. are you seeing no change in his position policy or inclination to negotiate since the beginning of this work? correct?

absolutely not on the continuity is more of the tenant to continue on his policy, especially after the improvement of his status. and i looked at the end of the total ponds. and i think these are the fact that the, the and not the one that he has such as the government but to those that are in the society itself is moving unfortunately in the direction of fascism. the fact that 69 percent of the people who had both disappeared at the recent button said that this i thought of assessing these channels, palestinian and, and i'm glad that needs to be those, even if that locks the possibility of getting things back because they're in the presence is an indication of that a model that i think my time jago is implementing a strategy has been talking about for, for the, for the kids. he wants to genocide because he wants to ethnic cleansing of gaza. the only explanation of his policy goes is that he's been hopes and dreams about ethnic cleansing, of the whole population of guys a by making goes on livable today is a ton of,

of my 2nd to the is there any i'm you committed? and one of the show that is one of the schools, one out of the schools that would attract them to say, man is a very clear indication of that. but more than that, nothing else didn't hold stuff, he wouldn't, but still united states and to a lot of the other him, he wants to destroy it on through a war, in which the united states itself will do the work. this is his dream and unfortunately the space i've missed station is doing nothing to stop by him for on this very dangerous course. you mentioned at the beginning of your answer and then yeah, who's improving status in the polls and getting and that is something i wanted to ask you. i was quite surprised when i researched this conversation right. preparing for this show, the seat of the just a day ago is really press published a poll in which net. yeah. who is now the head of many gaps. first time i believe since october 7th and his lakewood party elections were held today or tomorrow.

according to this poll, which was published in murray's record, wouldn't be the number one party in israel or these teachers do a survey. and that is the story is the story of, if any of the supports over the neo and even the purpose they found the result they started. but this, which was quite default to that quite a while for, for why. but the 10 very, very clear borders and he never crossed of all of us live across the name we. we don't oppose the war, we don't call them the crimes. we don't put those figures in mesquite links, we don't trust the signal. so benjamin, but then they disrupt all those things in this situation that we ship on the, on the, in the outside the people, the only thing that once we get rid of the know is why returning to the paradise

that they used to dream about. know, my friends is right, is fine. it's the 1st majority supporting what's happening. goes is spending the i'm the, if you still have that been, you know, makes, it was, but it seemed that they were doing the same thing. i have my thousands, as most of all just mentioned, there was some evidence to spell this list, but in any case, nathan, he always is running, isn't it? them yell when he comes to the war when he comes to the fact that nobody does, the patient is different when it comes to text. a good question still question. so i know phil menace the question of the, of these behavior, but this is 11, but what we face here is quite one from the is right, one database roll the video. this is unbelievable and banned books isn't so rami

then, let's take it over to you. we've had both of the stuff and getting and telling us that that yeah, who is an obstacle to piece and he pretty much has is really society. broadly speaking, behind him and even in light of, of antique, of who protests that we saw that lasted for months, even in light of that net. yeah. who is actually improving in terms of his popularity, his electro outlook, etc, etc. right. so, so what is there anything that could compel netanyahu to change his stance then inferior, yes, intense pressure from the united states to cut off arms. i go to the, i see, see, do all these terrible things that are terrible for 0, but that are good for the rule of law. i'm for righteous behavior by human rights of buying citizens all around the world. but that's the, that's not going to happen. the united states is making small. busy little rhetorical adjustments, mainly tamela harris saying softer things at the same time saying israel has the

right to defend himself. but the problem here is deeper than even i would say. then what most of, and gives you another saying, i'm, i know they agree with me, but the problem is, zion is this the desire? michelle has always wanted to achieve these goals, get the palestinians out, create a jewish state, and then see what happens. this has always been designed this philosophy and they see a chance of achieving of now they're going ahead with the west bank of guys on the east jerusalem and everywhere. and the world is doing almost nothing is quite extraordinary. so the conclusion is that the, that the majority of his rarely is support this design, this general seidel or part time racist colonial take over a whole palestine with trees in stream for telling me to civilians of the carlo conclusion is the western democratic for the world. as they. busy themselves are

usually supporting this, they're doing nothing to stop and that can be no wrong. me try something for the evidence. roaming, can i jump in for a 2nd because you say the root cause of this is, is the, the underpinning beliefs of zine is that i want to push back against that just a little bit because there are movements within designs within design is and i think almost everybody on these really put cole stage would call themselves sinus, but they don't all believe the same thing and they don't all believe the palestinians should be dealt with in the same way. so give you and perhaps i take this to you. do you agree with what rami was saying? that's really the root cause of this design is yes, i see my said the green too much here. that's no other choice, but they're all new ones and they won't put numbers on the right wing goes full. it means that they are vicious, which means that sound is only about 2 supremacy, which means the status of the rights whatsoever between the river and the sea.

enjoyed demands of the vision is to somehow either get rid of them by the state is oh, you're spending the same startles without any rights on the side, they either came the what we called the left, the sound is or does that is that or the center level yeah, more sophisticated in depth for i see them as more of the study because they cover the top. they don't have to meet it. they want to buy so the they want to make it in a friendly way. they want me to get them together with the boss mean and bless these conferences. they will declare that they are in favor of the prospect solution, even though they know that there are no drugs, there's any more, any viable, punish thing. it's thing that we probably 7000000 chance that they are deeper of these and they're really not stop talking about this and continuing to buy

except they like they are. i mean, guess only the saw the way and you chose which one of those to you prefer, the one where you, what you're seeing is what you get. or the one who you see, you know, for decades and decades promising all kinds of pharmacies and doing nothing. we need to reopen the chapter of the us and american pressure rami signal the beginning. and so did missed off of how important this was. this is not breaking news we've been saying for months that really the only country that has any real significant leverage over is realize the us. we also know that the us continues to fund israel, and the stuff of pointed out that they've just released another $3500000000.00 worth of military funding for israel and it's, we're efforts. they're also obviously also selling the weapons and providing weapons. rami is there, you're saying that there are rhetorical,

very minor differences between bite and harris and within under the democratic tent in the us. is there anything, any reason to believe the us is gonna change its policy anytime soon? i and the quick answer is no. there's no evidence, all we have are a little hinge, a small little new launch changes in tone from the combo harris on her vice presidential, big and things like that. but what do we do have the 1st time home or is a democratic party that is very scared. that if you guys have policies supporting the genocide and doing nothing to pressure is related to a cease fire may cost of losing a cup of swing state, especially in michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin. and this is what they're terrified of. we don't know if this is going to happen because the trouble now is that there are so many new emotional dimensions

of what's going on, especially with the, with the new democratic of the candidates. that there's a video for you. and this will start down in a week or so. the electronic temp convention of the democrats is coming up $19.00 to $20.00 to august. the key. the signs will come out of that convention if there are elements in the program. the, the platform that kind of le harris puts in because she's and can control the democratic parties position. she can't do that. now this is one of her weaknesses, but if there are real changes, talking about the orange and bar, go holding up the whole going to the arts, you see implementing the american laws about you can give them so arm. so people who deny other people's human rights, these are all clear relations of us on the international law. if there are any clear signs, are going to come out in the democratic platform, we shouldn't expect anything before august of $22.00. but there,

but the other thing that's find somebody that is talking to the fall is that for a 2nd? because that, that raises an obvious question and maybe i'll ask this one to myself, or if the us, and if you provided you agree with this premise that the us isn't about to change. it's, it's policy in any major way in the short term. if that is so why did the u. s. table once again a new push for a cease fire? if it knows it is not going to compel israel to agree to one. when the answer to a question, i have to make one comment about what was said before, which is that the, i totally agree that we will not see piece in this region without the ending of the set of out of colonial zionist project. and that you cannot be, as i understand, the democrats, you cannot to be as i understand the call list, that's impossible because that doesn't mean means the racism. and what do we see here is different levels of racism. but it's old racist. it's racist because these

people don't have any of the listing as i have that i to be in their own country. and they don't do any of that for me. this thing has happened that i taught freedom and they don't. many of the other students have thought to be equal. now talking about the new bush, of course, the night to states would be fair if this would, with and without the opposite. inquisitive. and the maybe they who are the, through the sky and the faction eh, to, to achieve something, some kind of pressure on the other thing inside to accept. is there any conditions which is, of course impossible. but on the other hand, i must say that, and this is not going to stop, is there any united states would not go in the direction of imposing sanctions and isabella, and without sanctions on those of them, nothing would change. but the fact that is that to the bush, isabel, the 1st truck is the fact that it is feeling good not to even get some military goals. the fact that it is failing and in a minute think by listing me under the rest of the fact that it is fairly imposing

good school in throat on garza. the fact that they are also suffering from huge human loss here. my loss is the largest evidence, i mean, i mean with the exception of maybe 97 to 3 war and as they say, they have had thousands of people who are injected code. this is the fact that, but the important fact that is that there's apparently economies now suffering from very serious damage. and the, i think if anybody knows now that the is it or it has very big difference it, the cost of this would, would reach something like $70000000000.00. but that to me, the parts of the economy i fully got bought. and there is other school for these, you know more, which is not going to be at the clinic for the is there is they don't have us funding. so perhaps the economic concerns and economic fear is, might be laid by that. no, because they have to stay as has already given is there. and with this new package, $23500000000.00 for military equipment on blip ones. i don't think that they're

gonna have states as it is to give them $50000000000.00 to fix the economy. i don't think so. and i think this will have very serious and bucks on those that are in the side. but at the end of the day, we have to, we have to say that the, the, the, the, the a good if we want is it or to change. if we want to stop this genocide, if we want to stop the started with what crimes those are happening on the ground, the world must impose sanctions. one is the most important point cartoon is that i am, is it is, is, it is case today is not different from the, the apartheid system that was in south africa at one point of time. and there's, there it is. now even practicing got much worse off at the time. so what do we need? the sanctions? what do we need this boy cut? and that's is the only language that is there. anyone understands in terms of international band. we have 4 minutes left. i want to make sure we discuss the, the last part of as i see it, there are 3 main things we've discussed. israel, we've discussed the us, their positions, what's changing and what's not changing. more importantly,

we haven't discuss thomas. my stuff back to you on this. what's victory? what does victory look like for you? yes. and why the new overall leader of home us i think for us in a lot of activity was going to 7th of october. and so let him know what i mean. i'll give you that we're talking about this renewed push for a cease fire. what, what do you once it sees fire? i think that's what kind of thing. and then once it sees fire to start the stuff i think of the people don't forget is that it has good already 50000 palestinians including 10000 to out on the boat. we have 93000 injured people, many of whom was dying because it has destroyed the whole medical infrastructure. people not suffering from lack of food, people are still finding some harder but too many 30 on conditions, which is not conducting biological warfare. on the people of guys. we have 72000 cases of infectious to protect us. we have cases of meningitis. we could see

colorado tomorrow, we could see even the light is. so it's a very dangerous situation. the ends of the or is the demand. and that's what the if anybody wants, including so at the end of the war with 0 enough, is there any army from guys are allowing us to fix this? horrible, horrible disaster go to is right and has good. the last man made too many stadium crisis of gideon. this may sound like a bit of a strange question, but a israel publicly officially wants to kill us in war, much like it killed as mile. any i do is rarely see a contradiction in the fact that we're talking about ceasefire negotiations. and we all know israel wants to kill the negotiator on the other side. but somebody came directly to the bowl for somebody and on the whole, the negotiator is a kid to him, which might be one of the most only. it shows that the them not to speak about the see because by the end of the day a new i was know they um,

1st i am not showing me of the old. the guy made his life, but the managers, he's on to the, as a sort of lost the police and why? because of this very assessing nations is a body c and the closes by and by both of these riley, supposedly, by most of these races already. it shows yes, they get bumped dose as the nations which reminds the james adams and they never ask about the consequences of both of us as a nation. show it never j. so any we don't see any, any contradiction. barely negotiated with seeing why it tomorrow when can a we made a judge. rami last words, because i made a successful 1930 that have killed british officials, palestinian national leaders. they killed below leaders. they've killed anybody that they feel is challenging them in palestine. and they will keep killing as long as they need to, if nobody stops them. but all the killings have only brought israel to the most

dangerous position the for its life. and the last century is now surrounded by 5 or 6 months that are of minutes. and our actors want actors who are very powerful, more powerful than any of their countries look forward to israel. israel is being isolated around the world in the us support for it is declining steadily, even among jews. so it's in the worst position has ever been. and then all it does just keep doing what it knows how to do get the power. steering is out of palestine, killed them and cause right them, let's use to them and present them, torture them through all the terrible things. and they'll keep doing it as long as nobody's stops them with the same results. that's why there has to be a mass of international intervention and the political matter that defines and contains zionism, we've accepted the live with a jewish majority. is rarely stated. many times, palestinians have the arms of the sonic world has their might interest to the

zionist philosophy. and the fascinating thing of designers, philosophy then started was just started with christian fundamental list extremist and then going down the line to stay suddenly 18 sixty's even before her to him the are they are designers of. so we have to get to the core of this issue, which is the collusion between western powers and designers forces to create the zombie killing machine. this least of frankenstein monster over that's that israel has become and we see all these pictures every day to build up heads on the feet with our bodies and nobody's stopping. and so there has to be faced decisive moment for them. this stops and we shift the trying to live in peace with everybody in trouble. and that is the time we have for today. i want to thank all our guests, most stuff up are good to get in libby and run the hoodie. thank you to for watching, you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. ours is 0 dot com

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